Aemmyjah:


So we that have intelligent means of communication in form of language have cords perfectly linked to our brain. Did that linkage or connection happen by chance or as a result of design
Besides, I don't agree with your claims about chimps unless you have proof. I mean genuine proofs and not mere speculation

There's no intelligent design there. There's not much difference between us and those animals.
Here, read this
https://www.sciencealert.com/monkeys-brains-not-their-vocal-cords-stop-them-from-speaking-like-us
I know you'll be scared of reading it so I took ss

Aemmyjah:



You are still speculating
You're free to keep speculating as long as your stupid speculations won't acknowledge a Creator
The Bible says that some people thought their righteousness were higher than God's
People today feel they are wiser than God
You're holding a grudge with him

I'm way ahead of you
I believe or know or accept convincingly that life and the universe has a designer or Creator or God
Until you come to your senses, I'm a million miles ahead of you so keep speculating

Ok, keep on with your belief

Aemmyjah:
The title of this thread is actually misleading
Science has not removed imperfection, old age and suffering
Many people are dying and in poverty
Science has made weapons that can destroy all living forms within seconds
Our very existence is at risk
Science now predict doom for all mankind
Yet, someone think that science is the answer to our problems

Very misleading post

At this point, you need to see a psychiatrist. Seriously, you have lost it

jaephoenix:

Continue believing whatever rocks your boat

This is the best phrase you've typed so far!

So each person chooses whatever makes them feel a sense of satisfaction, you detests the Bible because you don't want any restraint while others chose God's word because they want to relate peacefully with their neighbours!

If you choose to be an APE with the opinion that your ancestors evolved from nowhere it's OK, others may love to be humans with the opinion that they are descendants of Adam and Eve!

MaxInDHouse:


There names please!

H. Erectus, H.Habilis

jaephoenix:

At this point, you need to see a psychiatrist. Seriously, you have lost it

APE believe in psychiatrist but his ancestors don't talk neither do they reason like anything or anyone could be mad, they're just beasts!

jaephoenix:

H. Erectus, H.Habilis

What was their profession?

jaephoenix:

You keep displaying crass ignorance or lack of logic anytime you open your mouth. Who says gadgets have only one manual? Some have different manuals. Some manuals you can download online, some manuals are made by third parties etc.

Even in this obvious one Dr, you still chose to lie? Who has not bought a fridge, Tv, car, generator that did not see One manufacturers manual in it where it contains one? Do you find a Honda's manual in a Toyota Camry or Samsung manual in a Nokia?

Dr no dey show say you be fool!

Boy, even in this everyday things atheists are blind and do not see, No Wonder.

jaephoenix:

You just veered off tangent. We're talking about speculations on how we got to this earth.

And that is what I am telling and proving to you. Speculation is not evidence nor is it Truth or even proof of Truth exactly as me conjuring and speculation all kinds of connections just to stick you with a charge of murder.

Speculation and conjectures is inadmissible evidence.

jaephoenix:

No sire. I have seen no such events. If you have, please do share details

Go to the police station or court you would see how something like this happened and only one credible person saw the whole thing even though other people were present.

MaxInDHouse:


APES made it but humans are using it right?

Your brain need a reset!

The scientists that made it recognize we're apes and aren't arguing about it. Thats my point
You're the one that needs a brain transplant

MaxInDHouse:


This is the best phrase you've typed so far!

So each person chooses whatever makes them feel a sense of satisfaction, you detests the Bible because you don't want any restraint while others chose God's word because they want to relate peacefully with their neighbours!

If you choose to be an APE with the opinion that your ancestors evolved from nowhere it's OK, others may love to be humans with the opinion that they are descendants of Adam and Eve!

Am I forcing you to believe evolution? Have you ever seen atheists carrying tracts and harassing people on the roads? Or seen us waking up neighbors by 4am in the pretense of prayers? Or spraying saliva on fellow passengers in the guise of preaching? Have you seen any atheists wearing t-shirts bearing 'Atheism is the Way' or 'Your god is trash'. No we don't. You won't even know we're atheists til you interact with us, and even at that, some of us don't want to identify as one because of harassments, persecutions or assaults
So stay on your lane, we'll stay on ours

Dtruthspeaker:


Even in this obvious one Dr, you still chose to lie? Who has not bought a fridge, Tv, car, generator that did not see One manufacturers manual in it where it contains one? Do you find a Honda's manual in a Toyota Camry or Samsung manual in a Nokia?

Dr no dey show say you be fool!

Boy, even in this everyday things atheists are blind and do not see, No Wonder.

Dont be a fool
Many phones don't even come with manuals.
And I believed you are a lawyer, yet you don't know what a third party is? Some small companies make manuals for bigger ones. These days big companies outsource some jobs

Dtruthspeaker:


And that is what I am telling and proving to you. Speculation is not evidence nor is it Truth or even proof of Truth exactly as me conjuring and speculation all kinds of connections just to stick you with a charge of murder.

Speculation and conjectures is inadmissible evidence.

Alright sir

Dtruthspeaker:


Go to the police station or court you would see how something like this happened and only one credible person saw the whole thing even though other people were present.

Something as eventful and traumatizing as a man dropping and dying on the street?
Okay sir. No wahala

jaephoenix:

The scientists that made it recognize we're apes and aren't arguing about it. Thats my point You're the one that needs a brain transplant

The funny thing about you is how you failed to grasp that the word SCIENTISTS differs from ATHEISTS and that there are many SCIENTISTS who believe in CREATION.
So if ATHEISTS are trying to dominate that faculty with human philosophy it doesn't make all scientists athiests neither does it make them all advocates of evolution!

Can you remind me of the person who ordered APES to go out preaching or teaching?

So you can't preach or teach with confidence because nobody sent or ordered ATHEISM to do so, we know you can't preach as your gods are silver and gold, things that could be sold in the market, that's what makes you feel like talking:

Their idols are silver and gold, the work of men's hands. They have mouths, but they speak not: eyes have they, but they see not: They have ears, but they hear not: noses have they, but they smell not: They have hands, but they handle not: feet have they, but they walk not: neither speak they through their throat. They that make them are like unto them; so is every one that trusteth in them. Psalms 115:4-8

That's why your Suprematist leaders are trying to hijack institutions like schools or government to impose their philosophy on people!

jaephoenix:

Am I forcing you to believe evolution? Have you ever seen atheists carrying tracts and harassing people on the roads? Or seen us waking up neighbors by 4am in the pretense of prayers? Or spraying saliva on fellow passengers in the guise of preaching? Have you seen any atheists wearing t-shirts bearing 'Atheism is the Way' or 'Your god is trash'. No we don't. You won't even know we're atheists til you interact with us, and even at that, some of us don't want to identify as one because of harassments, persecutions or assaults
So stay on your lane, we'll stay on ours

MaxInDHouse:

The funny thing about you is how you failed to grasp that the word SCIENTISTS differs from ATHEISTS and that there are many SCIENTISTS who believe in CREATION.
So if ATHEISTS are trying to dominate that faculty with human philosophy it doesn't make all scientists athiests neither does it make them all advocates of evolution!

Even those christian scientists would tell you we evolved from apes. Ask them

MaxInDHouse:
Can you remind me of the person who ordered APES to go out preaching or teaching?

So you can't preach or teach with confidence because nobody sent or ordered ATHEISM to do so, we know you can't preach as your gods are silver and gold, things that could be sold in the market, that's what makes you feel like talking:

Their idols are silver and gold, the work of men's hands. They have mouths, but they speak not: eyes have they, but they see not: They have ears, but they hear not: noses have they, but they smell not: They have hands, but they handle not: feet have they, but they walk not: neither speak they through their throat. They that make them are like unto them; so is every one that trusteth in them. Psalms 115:4-8

That's why your Suprematist leaders are trying to hijack institutions like schools or government to impose their philosophy on people!

Okay. I wonder why I'm bothering to argue with you on logic and science

jaephoenix:

Dont be a fool
Many phones don't even come with manuals.
And I believed you are a lawyer, yet you don't know what a third party is?
Some small companies make manuals for bigger ones. These days big companies outsource some jobs

These days!

Yet Nokia will not be giving you a manual for a Samsung phone no matter which third party they give the contract of making their manuals. And it is still one manual even if you download it many times.

And cars and fridges and TVs still come with one manual but you get the gist.

Dtruthspeaker:


These days!

Yet Nokia will not be giving you a manual for a Samsung phone no matter which third party they give the contract of making their manuals. And it is still one manual even if you download it many times.

And cars and fridges and TVs still come with one manual but you get the gist.

So whats your point

jaephoenix:

Even those christian scientists would tell you we evolved from apes. Ask them

Continue deceiving yourself!

Who do you think i'm talking about when i said people believe in the existence of God?
OK you summed it all up in your head that only Bible readers believe in CREATION shey?

jaephoenix:

Okay. I wonder why I'm bothering to argue with you on logic and science

Real SCIENTISTS don't rely on logic because there are so many things they can never find any logical explanation to it!

MaxInDHouse:


Real SCIENTISTS don't rely on logic because there are so many things they can never find any logical explanation to it!

Lol. If scientists don't rely on logic, what do that rely on then?
MadMax at his finest

jaephoenix:

Lol. If scientists don't rely on logic, what do that rely on then?
MadMax at his finest

Real scientists only make research and when they find out something they explain how they discover it but as for logical explanation it's only few things that anyone could have found that they know they don't know it all.
So they are ready to pay any price for knowledge even when it means loosing their life just to set the pace not thinking everything must work with logic!

jaephoenix:

1. But apes made the phone and internet you're using to type trash

2. I took my precious time to go through Matthew 24(even though I know you never go through my links for fear of the truth)

soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. 33 Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it[e] is near, right at the door. 34 Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. 35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

The Day and Hour Unknown
36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,[f] but only the Father. 37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39 and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 40 Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.

42 “Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. 43 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44 So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.

45 “Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time? 46 It will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns. 47 Truly I tell you, he will put him in charge of all his possessions. 48 But suppose that servant is wicked and says to himself, ‘My master is staying away a long time,’ 49 and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards. 50 The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. 51 He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Can you tell me where the prophecy is here? Wars and conflicts are normal human occurrences. There are many wars being fought currently as we speak, apart from the Russia Ukraine war. And wars didn’t start today. Worse wars have been fought years ago and I'm sure the Christians then assumed it was the end of time

You're indeed an Apeman
You deliberately skipped all the verses that were prophetic

MaxInDHouse:

Real scientists only make research and when they find out something they explain how they discover it but as for logical explanation it's only few things that anyone could have found that they know they don't know it all.
So they are ready to pay any price for knowledge even when it means loosing their life just to set the pace not thinking everything must work with logic!

Can you explain this rubbish you just posted

Aemmyjah:


You're indeed an Apeman
You deliberately skipped all the verses that were prophetic

My copy exceeded its limit. You can paste the area that includes the prophesy, sire

jaephoenix:

Can you explain this rubbish you just posted

Leave it unexplained right thinking individuals will find it here and make the best use of it.
Science is not all about what we must prove logically rather it's a continuous learning process just as God's word describes it:

He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has even put eternity in their heart; yet mankind will never find out the work that the true God has made from start to finish. Ecclesiastes 3:11

Whether you agree or not both you and i will reach a certain point where we will say "i don't know" but atheism is blurring your senses making you feel you know better whereas all what you know are the discoveries of humans like you and i some have agreed that God exists while others are still making their research further to find God. So it's you who have concluded on what is yet inconclusive!

MaxInDHouse:

Leave it unexplained right thinking individuals will find it here and make the best use of it.
Science is not all about what we must prove logically rather it's a continuous learning process just as God's word describes it:

He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has even put eternity in their heart; yet mankind will never find out the work that the true God has made from start to finish. Ecclesiastes 3:11

Whether you agree or not both you and i will reach a certain point where we will say "i don't know" but atheism is blurring your senses making you feel you know better whereas all what you know are the discoveries of humans like you and i some have agreed that God exists while others are still making their research further to find God. So it's you who have concluded on what is yet inconclusive!

Which scientist agreed that god exists and what we're his methods

jaephoenix:

Which scientist agreed that god exists and what we're his methods

Real scientists believe in the existence of God and as for methods there is no method since you too can't explain further regarding evolution THEORY.
So they agreed that it's not everything that can be explained through methods!

jaephoenix:

My copy exceeded its limit. You can paste the area that includes the prophesy, sire

Sir
Good morning Dr
You said the Bible said the earth is flat, I showed you from the Bible that it says the earth is round or a circle but you still dispute

You said God told his people to eat dung, I showed you it was untrue but it was hardship that moved apostate Israel to eat bird dung and later Ezekiel was asked to bake using dried human excrement as fuel. He objected to it and Jehovah allowed him use cow excrement but as a picture to tell the Jews in babylon how life was to be for the Jews in Jerusalem who are under siege but you still dispute

I showed you that the Bible gave high counsel on health especially regarding to touching the dead that such ones should wash. I initially asked you to read the entire leviticus to know the process of cleansing but you refused and you looked at one verse to think cleansing involves just sprinkling of water whereas sprinkling of water by the priest is only the confirmation that the person had done cleansing but you disagreed

I showed you how the Bible described the water cycle, you disagree

Even if all I mentioned earlier are not convincing, the most convincing proofs of its authenticity is the predictions or prophecies. No human can accurately foretell the future and this is where the Bible beats every other religious book you can think of.
Lemme ask you, apart from divine inspiration, could anyone have predicted 200 prior about who will conquer an empire, his name, and how he will do that and the eventuality of the empire. To illustrate, imagine I say today that USA will be overthrown by Thomas in one night, there will be no battle, all USA borders will be opened, her main defense will be laid bare for Thomas to enter the city FREELY, all USA captives will be asked to leave and eventually, USA will be laid bare like a rock that no one will live or even pitch his tent there. You will not believe it but that was what happened exactly 200 years later. Even Atheists can't deny the evidence as Archaeological records and secular history confirms that Isaiah lived 200 years before Cyrus who conquered Babylon. The only reason why Atheists dispute it is cos of the fulfillment of prophecy but when the Bible was completed, babylon was still thriving but today what is going on in babylon? You may find out for yourself. An book from God or myth?


Same man said Nineveh will be destroyed forever and into non existence. Nineveh was a great city and mighty. Years ago, critics say Nineveh never existed cos there is nothing to find it. Now, you may even visit Google to ask. Nineveh was found almost entirely buried. Archaeologist are warning people not to destroy it entirely. One man warned that they should not bury it again

Again, the book you dismissed as a storybook
1. Daniel foretold the fall of babylon to Medo Persia. History confirms that
2. Daniel foretold that Medo Persia will fall to Greece. History confirms that
3. Daniel said that the King of Greece (Alexander the Great), that his life will be prematurely cut short and his children will not be handed rulership but his kingdom will be divided into 4 parts. Alexander died of malaria at age 33, his two sons were killed and eventually, his kingdom divided into four parts or empires ruled by four of his generals
4. Daniel said that the next empire or world power will be Rome. History confirms it
5. Daniel said that when Rome is ruling that the Messiah will come then, will be killed and Jerusalem will be destroyed. History confirms that. Even if Atheists say that Jesus was an invention of Rome, it did not deny the prophecy right? Jerusalem was destroyed again in 70CE by General Titus. Rome was still the world empire
6. Daniel said that Rome will disintegrate completely but a small nation will destroy three other nations to become world empire. Britain which was small defeated Netherlands, Spain and France to become world empire. History confirms that. (Now, will you tell me that Daniel existed down to the time of Britain to be fabricating all these as critics say, let us continue)
7. Later Britain and USA joined to become what is to be known as the Anglo-american empire
8. Daniel foretold that the Anglo-american empire will not be strong and all the government in the world will not be as strong as the previous empires so of the influence of the people. We don't need history to confirm this one. Our eyes re seeing this. Even the US government is not strong, sometimes their decision are resisted cos of strong protests, strikes, insurrection, change of government, divided constitution, you can mention the rest. Only by use of force do most governments today enforce their decision when the people do not want to respond.
9. Daniel foretold that during the time of the Anglo-american empire, nations will worship the god of fortresses (war or weapons). We don't need history to confirm this one. Since the Anglo-american empire, we have seen the most sophisticated weapons of all time, they have made themselves rich by making powerful weapons. Even small North Korea don de form big boy cos he de produce missile. They worship them as their defense and offense. They brag of their weapons
10. About 2000 years ago, Jesus Christ foretold that these times will face international wars, food shortages, epidemic and pandemic (pestilences), earthquakes in one place after another, lack of love, destruction or ruining of the environment, fear among people, reports of wars, false Christs, the preaching of the good news of God's kingdom. If you, 200 years ago,were asked to predict how life will be today? You'll likely be positive in your comments but Jesus Christ said this about 2000 years ago and we are seeing this
11. Paul, about 2000 years ago but later after Jesus Christ ascension, predicted the moral breakdown of people attitude today. People will be selfish, they will love money, boastful, haughty, disobedint to parents, lack of natural affection, slanderer, blasphemers, many will claim to love God but hypocrisy is all they show and many will love pleasures rather than God. He mentioned 19 attitude that will be prevalent worldwide and said that times (economy) will be critical but people will advance from bad to worse. Is this prophecy of the 'storybook' being fulfilled or not today?
12. Peter predicted that in our time, people will ridicule those that are talking about the second coming or presence of Christ. They will say (just as we are seeing) that the coming of Christ have been preached for many years right from our forefathers and nothing has changed. They do this to advance their own selfish desires

13. Daniel foretold what will happen to the Anglo-american empire. It will end and it mentions who will end it and how it will end. It will be unlike the previous world empires- Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medopersia, Greece, Rome. Anglo-american will be the last empire. It won't continue forever. It will be destroyed but by who? Go and read Daniel and see for yourself if you really want to know. John confirms this that the Anglo-american empire will not even last long like the Roman empire before it comes to it's end.


All these were written hundreds of years ago, many of its prophecies have been fulfilled and history and archaeology confirms them, many are being fulfilled today and we know that God will never allow any of his words to go unfulfilled. Jehovah, Jehovah my God has allowed his word, the Bible to be translated in almost all language and people can have access to it as He himself has foretold. No one can say that he did not know or even got information. Atheists dismiss it as storybook but to their own demerit.

Jaephoenix, Daniel foretold the empire that will replace Babylon (the empire ruling during his time) and it WAS Medopersia
He foretold who will replace Medopersia and it WAS Greece
He foretold who will replace Greece and it WAS Rome
He foretold who will replace Rome and it IS ANGLO-AMERICA as we're seeing
Daniel mentioned who will dethrone and destroy, not just Anglo-america but all the government in the world and how and the timing according to jesus christ and his disciples and we're in the nick of time. You're only harming yourself cos you're wise in your own eyes but you're actually very stupid by not considering the evidence. You and your fellow Atheists. Satan has blinded your eyes so that you will not see Truth and it is to your own destruction. Why should I be angry? Already, you chose a religion with no hope, no blessing and no future. You don't do God any harm if you don't acknowledge him. Jehovah himself will not manipulate or threaten anyone to serve him. He wants our love from the heart and not forced.