Omo_Tier1:

Answer to your worries;
1.You do not pray through Jesus! When you get born  again (Rom 10 vs 9-10), you come INTO christ and God and you remain there! You carry the authority of the Name of Jesus where ever you go.So when you want to ask the Father something,or want to declare a thing in line with Gods word, you use that authority IN the name of Jesus.

2. Obviously, you appear NOT to have read the bible where in Mark 6 vs 5 it said and I quote: "He (Jesus) COULD NOT do any miracles there (Jesus's hometown - Nazareth)except lay his hands on a FEW sick people and heal them. AND HE (JESUS) WAS AMAZED AT THIER LACK OF FAITH" end of quote (cf matt 13vs58). Obviously you missed the warning in themessage where Pastor Chris preached this verse and I have encasped here for you! It wasn't the question wether Jesus could do miracles rather it emphasizes the fact that YOUR faith matters!

3.Again, if you believe to the contratry, then you make God to be a liar who vowed that He God will put in his new creation a new heart and they will walk after him - meaning the holy ghost in us leads us CONTINUALLY in obedience to God. That was Gods soveriegn declaration! Ever wonder why Peter called us ", as obedient children, "?

May I remind you that there were some like you who doubted the holy spirit, the pentecost, speaking in tongues,and the faith walk until the Azuza street outpouring!  

Your scriptural foundational teachings/upbring might have been wrong but you have no excuse to remain that way!

You have not yet been delivered out of your ignorance, unfortunately. I guess the obsession with "prosperity" is a big blinder to genuine biblical teaching.  

Anyway for anyone whom it may benefit, below are the links to the threads in which each of the three listed typical Oyakhilome rubbish and nonsense has been well refuted:

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-655784.0.html

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-753857.0.html

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-704762.0.html

God dey ooooo

Religion they say is [size=8pt][size=8pt] the opium of the masses[/size][/size] , the statement made by most of the readers can really attribute to this fact, i have however long ago vowed to allow God take care of his business, and judge those that defraud in his name, i must however state that the unjust shall not go unpunished, KPAM

@OMO_Tier

1.You do not pray through Jesus! When you get born  again (Rom 10 vs 9-10), you come INTO christ and God and you remain there! You carry the authority of the Name of Jesus where ever you go.So when you want to ask the Father something,or want to declare a thing in line with Gods word, you use that authority IN the name of Jesus.

Thank you for taking the pain to explain , but can a religious man understand truth if his eyes had not been opened.

1 Corinthians 2:14
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

people just waist their time talking rubbish. the ignoramus that posted the unclear picture of houses and suvs did that for what?, so we could all start criticizing the man of god? why don't you spend your time and do some thing meaningful to yourself, family and everyone. i am a member of Christ embassy, and i make bold to tell you that where pastor Chris oyakhilome lives isn't his house, but a house built by the church for him. the vehicles in the picture are non of his. as he doesn't pack and pile up vehicles like a car dealer. pastor chris gives out cars as they come to him. how many cars can he use as the same time?, how many rooms will he sleep in at the same time? the house in the picture looks like a two or three storey building and somewhat brown in color, pastor chris lives in a white duplex and you won't even be allowed by the private security men to take pictures as the house is in an enclosed place. you also lied by saying that those sport utility vehicles are his. i will have you know that the only vehicles that pack in his compound are the ones he and his household use only. vehicles that come as seed are given out a few hours or days after they have been given. the so called cec member you talked about either doesn't exist or is an ignorant member who posed or poses with someone else s properties.please, with all due respect, get your facts right and straight before saying what you don't know. i am not just saying this because i am a member of christ embassy church, but because i like the truth being told. pastor chris oyakhilome, just like evrey other person is reaping the seeds he sowed many years ago. i are you aware of the things he went through in life?, of the things he denied himself of? do you suppose that as a man of god, he is not supposed to enjoy god's blessings? or should he do that with fear and in the secret?. Jesus said, let your light shine before men that they may see your good works wnd glorify your father in heaven. the bible says that their is time for every thing, time to sow and time to reap, jesus said you are the light of the world, a city that is set on the hill cannot be hidden, he also talked about us leaving our all and following him, and that he will bless us.God never uses a man a leave him unblessed. my brother, my advice to you is that you mind the way you talk about god and his servants, so you don't attract God's wrath to your self. G od bless you.

rubish, dis one of d reason i dont like going to church cuse dey can neva help u but colet 4rm u,i am tinking of opening my church soon too

like elisha said to elijah,i want double  portion  of his prosperity , even more, do not judge!!

Just angry at another man's success,

BTW are pastors expected to be poor people

yeye4live:

rubish, dis one of d reason i dont like going to church cuse dey can neva help u but colet 4rm u,i am tinking of opening my church soon too

Clap for yourself. When you stand before God give him the reason for not going to church is bc you always wanted to be a taker and not a giver. Pls open ur church o, and call it. Breakfast, lunch and dinner free ministry, since opening a church you think is just a man waking up from coma.

nuella2:

Clap for yourself. When you stand before God give him the reason for not going to church is bc you always wanted to be a taker and not a giver. Pls open your church o, and call it. Breakfast, lunch and dinner free ministry, since opening a church you think is just a man waking up from coma.

I couldn't let this go

Guys relax, remember the quote'seek yea first the kingdom of God and evri other things shall be added'd man is just flexing the fruit of his labour, na so

Is there anything like a true christian, i thought it is a death religion.

PRAISE THE LORD!!!! Maga. . . don pay . . . shout halleluy. . .

@Joagbaje
You said a deeper life member gave you a car?

Yes he said God led him to give me. I almost cried on the road , I was short of words To even pray for him. I only manage to mutter " my soul bless you" may God surprise you" I was not well coordinated but he understood .

All the above may be true. And all we see here is a house with trucks so people should not speak in absolutes in passing judgement on subject. Having said that, I don't agree with those going on and on about people minding their own business. Christians, and the society at large, ought to be worried about things like this. If it is true Mr Oyakhilome owns, keeps and uses 30 jeeps, please convey my sympathies to him, as all I could feel for him is pity.

And, ma'am, there's something seriously wrong with a system that creates a man who "receives cars almost everyday" in any society, but especially one where 70% are poor.

you said it all there my brother, tell them.

naaw thats not his house, thats the white house, his office in oregun and those jeeps most likely dont belong to him.theres an adjoining compound to that building where the machines are packed, nice pic though.a lot of the cash comes from oil and gas, that where the bar is comin from peeps

Joagbaje:

Yes he said God led him to give me. I almost cried on the road , I was short of words To even pray for him. I only manage to mutter " my soul bless you" may God surprise you" I was not well coordinated but he understood .

What do you think Jo. Who's more blessed in you who received the car, and in the deeper man who gave you the car?

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What do you think Jo. Who's more blessed in you who received the car, and in the deeper man who gave you the car?

He is most blessed of course.and he knows. That is scriptural truth , he had been doing things like this , and he knows the principles . He shared strange testimonies with me .

deols:

I wont be surprised if many of those pastors are atheists in real life. They see a business venture and go into it. No fear of God at all. All they need is to try look good, speak a little good english (wv some ajasa), learn a little psychology , get some marriage counselling lessons(or get their wives to do that) and practice on speaking in some terms no one might understand as scam and they'r in money


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I don't know if you understand the absurdity of what you said above,  shouldn't that tell you your yeye god does not exist if someone can successfully "use" his name to deceive others
You seem like an educated person which makes it even more painful. How could someone in this day and age with all that science has shown us still believe the universe is 6000 years old is beyond me.

I wonder if there would be car parks in heaven.

I really hope so.

deols:

I wont be surprised if many of those pastors are atheists in real life. They see a business venture and go into it. No fear of God at all. All they need is to try look good, speak a little good english (wv some ajasa), learn a little psychology , get some marriage counselling lessons(or get their wives to do that) and practice on speaking in some terms no one might understand as scam and they'r in money

I agree with this post and I am convinced similarly that many of the leaders of the prosperity "gospel" do not really believe in God.

na wa ooooo, what is this country turning into,scam every where,do not know who to belive again

wateva he does with his money is nobody's business

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now i have heard several viewpoints on this
ce issue and i must admit, it could sometimes be
overwhelming.ce in the begining was wonderful but the signs were apparent also in the early stages of danger ahead.
Point one the campus fellowship pastors exuded so much authority that at some point pst chris queried their excesses but then many of them transmuted from university orgres to full time ministry tin gods, victimisation was absolutely unparalled.id come back to this aspect later
point two apostle gbenga igbafens proserity did more havoc than good in the late 90s many will agree that hes first entry to oregun was a less than spectacular entry,the message and theme was opposite to christ embassy, but he was tolerated and look at where we are now, cause and consequences
now it will appear that pst chris is never aware of what is going on and the guilty parties are often abberant members or pastors.but if u watch the sequyence of its a deliberate ploy to isolate him from guilt.trust me iv seen it replay over and over in scandals.there is this awe his mighty men in quote percieve him that one has ridiculously said hed do anythig to protect his mog.but then pst chris doesnt know.i wait for rebuttals t replay over and over in scandals.there is this awe his mighty men in quote percieve him that one has ridiculously said hed do anythig to protect his mog.but then pst chris doesnt know.i wait for rebuttals

@Enigma:

They do believe in God BUT! You'll find the problem buried in their teachings. They are stuck in the initial euphoria of "I'm a new creature and a citizen of heaven" and they never went past that. For such "newbies" oldies, the promises are literal, plans to make great; they own the world, possess all things, judge Angels etc.

Once stuck in that (and being greedy people), they never develop mentally (spiritually) and start off "ministried" based on these. So you find the blind leading the blind all on their way to falling in the pit. Human "respect" means more to such, they wish to be famous to "prove" they are right, they need the cash, cars and trappings to again, prove it and those who get it reign. No one wishes to lose so they go to any extent to achieve these aims.

Of course, to such "baby teeth", dad (God) cannot but be a smiling dolt! Hasn't He justified? Hasn't He forgiven? Hasn't He promised? and NOTHING can separate from His love so no wahala - you can do anything and get away with it. Its the fault of the scammed since they have the same Bible and can do their own!

Crazy!

now u must understand that there are two christ embassies or rather three.what u see on tv, the satellite churches were the congregation dont know the pseudo hell there local pastors go through and finally the real cahuna itself, the headquarters were it all happens.
Id focus on the hqs because that well it all begins where marketers or church staff are given ten million partneship targets to meet after on month of achieving one percent, theyre are summarily fired.u understand, its a well worked contraption.people like joeagbaje may never know these things but there are more,

Jesus is coming soon .  some spend precious time in criticism While others spend time and money working for Jesus. Watch this video and be inspired.

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@ nuclearboy

Nuke

My language was deliberately very careful: "many of the leaders of the prosperity gospel".

Another thing: the statement is not confined to the leaders in Nigeria alone who after-all are copying considerably, principally from American fraudsters.

There is plenty of reason to believe that many of the American fraudsters do not believe in God. Leave that aside: if Oyakhilome is so unafraid of God with his scams - and remember the video with his trick of making people fall with his shadow - it is very legitimate to wonder if he truly believes in God.