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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by theredaddy: 9:08pm On Apr 11, 2023
Tntsi:
You cannot defend indefensible.
Druggie is in for it. He must personally show up to discuss this matter that he has managed to suppress and repress since 1999.

PODATTI has finally brought it to the world stage. Druggie must show up to testify.


Peter Obi is a kid in Nigeria politics, even his political father Obasanjo failed and was relegated by Tinubu, even wike will beat Peter Obi blue black in politics. all the court cases obi won it was courtesy Obasanjo

So all the gra gra Peter obi and Obedient all they could dig out are the same information that have awash the net over the year.
You want to win a case that as already being tried and you are not bring anything new substantial evidence to the table, Between OBi and Obedient i don't even know who is more foolish

All the evidence Datti was bragging they will show the world how they won convincely since that time till now we still dey wait ... nothing 🤣

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by PulaPower: 9:08pm On Apr 11, 2023
Dbegining:


Oga, stop posting unverified news sources from APC owned blogs.

It's stale now.

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by abbey621(m): 9:09pm On Apr 11, 2023
Stevosty:
if you made legit business with a yahoo boy you ain't forfeiting anything unless otherwise.

Legit business with Yahoo boy? Ain't that ironic comedy? grin grin grin That's like saying you bought a phone from a thief, when police comes for you, you'll know say Alfa wey wicked na Raji we dey call am grin grin grin

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by ettaetta(m): 9:10pm On Apr 11, 2023
this is funny

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by blowjohn(m): 9:10pm On Apr 11, 2023
Allardyce:
They are admitting that he forfeited that huge sum.
Good, dem go hear am grin

Did u read or u just skimmed thru?

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by Raskimonojendor: 9:10pm On Apr 11, 2023
Tinubu walks away free again just like in the days of Obasanjo. The real Teflon Don.

His escape was the CIVIL forfeiture.

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by Eriokanmi: 9:10pm On Apr 11, 2023
aceman88:


According to the write-up, APC's argument here is that, the American Court was not against Tinubu but the various sums of money lodged in his account ooo.

So those crucifying Tinubu should free him ooo because the guilty person here is his money which American Court has arrested and prosecuted and not his very person who is innocent. In APC's voice ooo
A tot sef no fit misyearn like the apc is doing. Who owns the accounts into which narcotics proceeds were dumped? They harped on the forfeited proceeds and the respective bank accounts but talked less of the beneficiary and owner of same account numbers.

But Why do we have such high number of criminals in Nigeria like this? If someone committed money laundering crime or deposited a lump sum into someone else's accounts, EFCC won't allow that person to rest. In fact after forfeiting the said money if the source can't be explained, the efcc would still be on the accused trail and jail him if they can lay their hands on him/her. See the same people who are supposed to uphold our constitution now denting it? Shame!

Can any of them afford to forfeit ordinary 500usd of their hard-earned money? Its a question which any sane being should ask him/herself. If it's that easy to lose such huge sum without blinking an eye, then those living in America for decades but can't build a duplex in Nigeria should be swimming in money by now. They could be plucking dollar from the tree over there, who knows

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by Poleski: 9:12pm On Apr 11, 2023
That's a very weak defence.

In legal terms, Forfeiture refers to the act of surrendering or losing something as a penalty for a wrongdoing or breach of a legal obligation. In legal terms, forfeiture usually involves the confiscation or seizure of property, assets, or money by a government authority or law enforcement agency as a result of illegal activity, such as drug trafficking, money laundering, or organized crime.

Forfeiture can occur through either civil or criminal proceedings. Civil forfeiture involves the government's seizure of property or assets believed to be linked to criminal activity, regardless of whether the property owner has been charged with a crime. In contrast, criminal forfeiture involves the forfeiture of property or assets that have been directly obtained through criminal activity and is usually imposed as part of a criminal sentence.

In both cases, forfeiture is intended to deprive individuals of the benefits or proceeds of illegal activity and to deter future criminal conduct.

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by sliky09: 9:12pm On Apr 11, 2023
APC just shot the gun with the nozzle facing them. grin grin grin

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by VERDA: 9:13pm On Apr 11, 2023
citygarden:
Finger Cross, tinubu will win this case. Is dead on arrival. Obi only want to try his luck. You can see the petition obi wrote to the court. He only want the Court to disqualify tinubu and court should order fresh election. He didn't claim he won the election as stated before he went to court. This case of drug have been tested in the courts doing obasanjo regime tinubu won upon being opposition to the government . Talk less of when is now awaiting gcfr.

If you knew how to read and comprehend and not just follow social media trends, you would have known that the issue of disqualification was just one of his points and he tackle the whole INEC process and claimed he won based on true figures.
But una no dey read.

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by IbileIfe: 9:14pm On Apr 11, 2023
Islie:
….insists he was not convicted of crime




https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/04/alleged-drug-case-why-tinubu-forfeited-460000-in-us-apc-tells-court/
The following is enough for the summary dismissal of Peter "Pandora" Obi's erroneously conceived petition.

[b]Insisting that Obi was not validly nominated by the LP, the APC, stressed that he was not a member of the party, at least 30 days before it conducted its presidential primary election.

It told the court that Obi was a member of the Peoples Democratic Party, PDP, till May 24 2022, adding that he was screened as a presidential aspirant of the party in April, 2022.

APC further averred that whereas Obi joined the LP on May 27, he was subsequently declared the winner of the presidential primary election the LP held on May 30, 2022.

“By section 77(3) of the Electoral Act, 2022, the 2nd Petitioner (LP) is mandated to have submitted its comprehensive register of members to the 1st Respondent 30 days before its presidential primary.

“That is to say the said register of members must have been submitted to the 1st Respondent on or before 30th April, 2022.

“The 1st Petitioner (Obi) as at 30th April, 2022 was still a member of the PDP and his name was not and could not have been in the register of members submitted by the 2nd Petitioner to 1st Respondent (INEC).

“The Petition herein is incompetent as the 1st Petitioner is not a member of the 2nd Petitioner since the 1st Petitioner’s name is not, and could have been listed in the list of the register made available by the 2nd Petitioner to the 1st Respondent, same having been made available before the 1st Petitioner joined the 2nd Petitioner”.

It, therefore, prayed the court to dismiss or strike out Obi’s petition “wholly or in part as may be appropriate”.[/b]
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by harmonyglobal: 9:14pm On Apr 11, 2023
Lawsuit with no bases, I wonder how dumb obi and his lawyers are.
God bless president Buhari
God bless president elect Tinubu
God bless the federal republic of Nigeria

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by Raskimonojendor: 9:14pm On Apr 11, 2023
sliky09:
APC just shot the gun with the nozzle facing them. grin grin grin
How. He was never indicted or convicted. He is cleaner than Donald Trump as per this case grin

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by shogz89: 9:14pm On Apr 11, 2023
Not all forfeiture are related to crime. If they sell you a stolen car, if it's established that you know nothing about the stolen car you will only forfeit it. No criminal charges against you. Same applies to non payment of your mortgage or leases. You will forfeit the asset without criminal charges. That's what is called civil forfeiture. The one with crime is called criminal forfeiture. This is just me explaining the kinds of forfeiture.

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by sheldonbbt: 9:14pm On Apr 11, 2023
In summary, Tinubu was an AZA man!

Lol, Nigerians.

No be this Nigeria again? Where no convicted politician has spent the full term in jail?

Stop wasting your time and energy, Nigeria at this time is irredeemable!

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by kokomilala(m): 9:14pm On Apr 11, 2023
@vannessa7, yes, you're right. They are narcissists in every sense of the word. And, with it, they've taken up the spirit of fascism. That's why I call them fascist narcissists.

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by iLoveYouToo(m): 9:15pm On Apr 11, 2023
aceman88:


According to the write-up, APC's argument here is that, the American Court was not against Tinubu but the various sums of money lodged in his account ooo.

So those crucifying Tinubu should free him ooo because the guilty person here is his money which American Court has arrested and prosecuted and not his very person who is innocent. In APC's voice ooo


That’s all you got from the article? Did you also read the part where Tinubu’s eligibility to stand elections has already been decided by a Nigerian court in 1999? Did you?

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by maestroferddi: 9:15pm On Apr 11, 2023
Raskimonojendor:

They already did. He was not indicted neither was he charged.
Use your dictionary....

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by GogetterMD(m): 9:15pm On Apr 11, 2023
jaxxy:


unless u are trying to tell us all the people fg charged in the dasuki gate where all innocent and the forfeiture was because they were innocent.

The forfeiture was done because they were guilty bt went for a settlement instead of a conviction. The crime was still committed and he was guilty.

if he had not done the forfeiture he would be convicted and jailed.

You are presenting your argument from both sides of the divide. For the #dasukigate "brotherhood", you said said they were guilty but not convicted, eventually reaching an out of court settlement. The court did not pronounce them guilty before most of the culprits, who you'd refer to as the defendants (Dasuki, Bafarawa, Dokpesi, Metuh etc) reached a plea bargain. A more appropriate analogy would have been the case of Doyin Okupe who was convicted with a 2-year sentence before settling for an option of fine.
For Bola's case, problem is there is no evidence of a criminal conviction or a plea bargain. The forfeiture for the famous 460k is enveloped under a civil case, and not a criminal one

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by Elsueno: 9:16pm On Apr 11, 2023
aceman88:


According to the write-up, APC's argument here is that, the American Court was not against Tinubu but the various sums of money lodged in his account ooo.

So those crucifying Tinubu should free him ooo because the guilty person here is his money which American Court has arrested and prosecuted and not his very person who is innocent. In APC's voice ooo

Why do Nigerian lawyers demean themselves by playing technical bullshyt all the time to defend thier corrupt clients...This is getting stale & annoying, it would just make d masses totally loose hope in d judiciary, it also shows foreign countries how corrupt & twisted things are as long as u have money & power

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by Akwamkpuruamu: 9:16pm On Apr 11, 2023
“The Respondent states that, in any event, the impleaded decision of the United States District Court, Northern District of Illinois Eastern Division is not a decision by a competent court of law or tribunal in Nigeria;


So because it's not a court case in Nigeria court, their decision isn't binding to hold in Nigeria

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by AroOkigbo(m): 9:16pm On Apr 11, 2023
Guestlander:
Obi is grasping at straws.
Imagine if this drug stuff had to do with Obi.

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by enobongalfred: 9:17pm On Apr 11, 2023
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by Stevosty: 9:17pm On Apr 11, 2023
abbey621:


Legit business with Yahoo boy? Ain't that ironic comedy? grin grin grin That's like saying you bought a phone from a thief, when police comes for you, you'll know say Alfa wey wicked na Raji we dey call am grin grin grin
Your analogy does not follow, if a yahoo boy came to you, bought a car, and a house, will the money the fraudster paid you be returned? Why should you buy a stolen phone?
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by ojoisimi(m): 9:17pm On Apr 11, 2023
SmartPolician:
Wole Olanipekun and his defence counsel can write or claim anything in defence of Tinubu, but they should stop making reference to US consulate or embassy in Nigeria. An embassy in a foreign country is just a business centre and will never get involved in your local politics in a way that it jeopardizes their business interests.

Trash this abeg. Which kind nonsense did you write there?

By the way, I didn't see anything convincing in defence of why Tinubu forfeited $460k on drug-related offenses. On no grounds will any legit citizen work hard, save up such an amount and forfeit it to the state. We are talking about over #300 million here.

This case isn't just about the morality of justices who will hear the case, but where Nigeria stands on the war against narcotics and being an enabler of drug-related criminality.
Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by PulaPower: 9:17pm On Apr 11, 2023
jaxxy:
So diezani and hushpuppi are not guilty of crime? They only fortiethed.

Fortiethure is done to avoid jail bt u are charged and guilty of the crime.
But USA didn’t charge him and he was never indicted for any crime..

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by onuman: 9:18pm On Apr 11, 2023
Forfeiture..

So APC has finally agreed that Tinubu forfeited $460,000 to the US government.
No government, except a rogue government, in the world will ask a person to forfeit N460000 without court prescription for the Forfeiture.

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by Benwallt(m): 9:19pm On Apr 11, 2023
PulaPower:
Furthermore, the release from forfeiture of other monies in the account the subject of the proceedings in Case No: 93C4483; in excess of one million dollars and for the benefit of the named beneficiary K.O Tinubu though not the account holder, less forfeited sum of $460,000.00 (Four Hundred and Sixty Thousand United States Dollars) is a manifest affirmation that the case was not a criminal trial and the fund forfeited was not a fine imposed as a punishment for a criminal conviction of any person- let alone the 2nd Respondent.

“The disqualification factors as stipulated by the Constitution only conceives of a conviction sentence or fine involving dishonesty or fraud or contravention of the Code of Conduct as found by a Court of the law of competent jurisdiction or Tribunal in Nigeria,” it added.

Tinubu was never indicted nor convicted for any drug related crime or any other crime in USA..



Let's get the pareee started. Jingos, bingos, ekuke, rats, outcasts will wail till their eyes pop, their deaf and their spirit broken to pieces.

Upon all the noice by loud(Igbo proMax), uberfactless, they still laboured laboriously in vain. The enemy of our dear father( JAGABAN of BORGU) is also our enemy. May 29 is sacrosanct.

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by Raskimonojendor: 9:19pm On Apr 11, 2023
Ayo25:
You people should wake me up in 2031 when Tinubu completes 2nd term of 8 years grin
grin grin grin

It's good for them to have hopes though. Swearing in ceremony in 48 days.

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Re: Why Tinubu Forfeited $460,000 In US — APC Tells Court by babyfaceafrica: 9:20pm On Apr 11, 2023
abbey621:


Legit business with Yahoo boy? Ain't that ironic comedy? grin grin grin That's like saying you bought a phone from a thief, when police comes for you, you'll know say Alfa wey wicked na Raji we dey call am grin grin grin

He has a point though.

If you buy car from a yahoo boy without knowing he is into fraud ... If police catch you, they will just collect the car back.. You will only be in problem, if the Yahoo boy claims he told you he bought the car from fraud

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