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Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by Expanse2020(m): 8:09am On Jan 28 |
TenQ:I know after you see all the evidence you will still look for a fault 🤣🤣🤣🤣 to claimed But your Roman and vertical God cannot different how he created man and woman...let us know if he has anything to say in the biblograph 🤣🤣🤣 the story book of our times |
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by Expanse2020(m): 8:15am On Jan 28 |
TenQ: Tell me what scientist find or constitute of the Sun ....tell me And you forget to tell me that Scientists ASLO confirms that WATER is only what surrounded the earth and others solar system You fail to learn |
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by TenQ: 12:37pm On Jan 28 |
honesttalk21:Is the Hadith not sayings and deeds of your prophet? From whose mouth did you first heard the Quran? Was the Quran given to Mohammed in the presence of ANY Muslim? Then the Quran is a Hadith from Mohammed not different from when he claimed he rode the Al-Burak to paradise. From whose mouth did you Muslims get the quran? Was it from Mohammed or Allah? Secondly, since you seem to emphasize the woman's mensuration , Can you tell me how the woman's menstrual flow proceed from her rib bone (Taraib)? Or Can you tell me how the woman's arousal flow proceed from her rib bone (Taraib)? Thank you! |
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by TenQ: 12:42pm On Jan 28 |
honesttalk21:So, ancestry amongst the Jews and even the Arabs is maternal!? Can you please give us just one example? |
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by TenQ: 1:36pm On Jan 28 |
honesttalk21:It is easy to confirm sir: Just answer the Question Is the fluid called follicular fluid produced from the ribs (Taraib) of the woman? |
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by TenQ: 1:39pm On Jan 28 |
honesttalk21:So who is the Al-Imran in chapter 3 of the Qur'an? If you had answed this question, we would not be talking this. |
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by TenQ: 1:41pm On Jan 28 |
Expanse2020:It is amazing to know that Allah's knowledge is just about what is expected from a 6th century Arabian man. Otherwise, what is the name of the Yellow thin sexual fluid of the woman proceeding from her rib bone (Taraib)? We have been waiting endlessly for your answer |
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by TenQ: 1:44pm On Jan 28 |
Expanse2020:Check what you have written above and give a reference to how water surrounds our solar system particularly the sun. If Allah can goof in just ONE of these, it is CERTAIN that he cannot be God the Creator! 1. Allah says that the sun set inside some murky water 2. Women produce reproductive fluid from their ribs and he didn't know that women realese eggs from their ovaries 3. The men produce sperms from their backbone and not the testis 4. Hail is cut and thrown down from mountains of Ice in the sky 5. The stars are missiles Allah throw at satan who is so small he can urinate in Muslims nostrils 6. There is a wall built by Dhulqanin to stop Gog and Magog from crossing |
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by TenQ: 2:08pm On Jan 28 |
honesttalk21:The so-called lie, was from your prophet Muslim 165b, 317 Abu al-'Aliya reported: Ibn Abbas, the son of your Prophet's uncle, told us that the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) had observed: On the night of my night journey I passed by Moses b. 'Imran (peace be upon him), a man light brown in complexion, tall. well-built as if he was one of the men of the Shanu'a, and saw Jesus son of Mary as a medium-statured man with white and red complexion and crisp hair, and I was shown Malik the guardian of Fire, and Dajjal Among the signs which were shown to me by Allah. He (the narrator) observed: Then do not doubt his (ie of the Holy Prophet) meeting with him (Moses). Qatada elucidated it thus: Verily the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him), met Moses (peace be upon him). And the Cousin of your prophet AND Tafsir Qur'an 3.33-37 Maududi - Sayyid Abul Ala Maududi - Tafhim al-Qur'an .... On this occasion Allah sent down this discourse to the Holy Prophet to invite the members of the deputation to Islam. `Imran was the name of the father of Moses and Aaron and has been mentioned as "Amram" in the Bible. The main cause of the misguidance of the Christians is that they consider Jesus to be the son of God and a partner in God-head, instead of His Servant and Messenger. Are your scholars confirmed Liars? |
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by Expanse2020(m): 2:37pm On Jan 28 |
TenQ:Tell me what constitutes Sun |
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by TenQ: 4:16pm On Jan 28 |
Expanse2020:The Sun is primarily composed of hydrogen (about 74% by mass) and helium (about 24%). The main mechanism by which the Sun produces heat and light is nuclear fusion. In the Sun's core, hydrogen nuclei (protons) fuse to form helium through a series of nuclear reactions, releasing a tremendous amount of energy in the process. This energy is emitted as light and heat, providing the Sun's radiant energy. The temperature of the surface of the sun is about 5000 oC. Inside, it's temperature is about 25,000,000oC Only Allah think the sun set in some murky water when in actuality, the sun does not even set (it appears as if it sets) Allah cannot be God if he made this error. Try to adopt the Truth as it will set you free from Allah's deception and bondage |
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by Expanse2020(m): 5:27pm On Jan 28 |
TenQ: |
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by Expanse2020(m): 5:41pm On Jan 28 |
TenQ:you are lack of Know that why you try hard to look for false hope But you don't know the meaning of what you said but rather twisted it.. Let start murky meaning dark and gloomy, especially due to thick mist. When they said the sky is murky what did they mean...check attached picture for reference.. They how does the Sunset... of course the sunlight has to go off and cover with murky and in the sky where was the rain form and another example when rain want to fall sun and sky turn to murky too before rain fall.. So what wrong about that Wallahi you need to study so that you won't be falling to backlash everyday
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Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by TenQ: 6:37pm On Jan 28 |
Expanse2020: Muslims will tell big lies just to defend the lies of Allah and His prophet. Qur'an 18:86 Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it set in a spring of murky water: Near it he found a People: We said: "O Zul-qarnain! (thou hast authority,) either to punish them, or to treat them with kindness." I guess people live in space close to the sun. Please find another Lie that will look reasonable! It is obvious that the knowledge of Allah is as low as that expected from a 6th century Arabian man. Did Allah say : he found some people there? |
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by Expanse2020(m): 6:50pm On Jan 28 |
TenQ:There billions of galaxy in the universe confirmed by Sciencetist recently less than 2years (did you know he has been reveal on the Quran 1400years ago); when they asked scientist and also ellon musk is it possible that there are aliens in some galaxy....they didn't said no but rather they acknowledge..... And for the records Sciencetist have been recording series of Allen contact with the people in accidents time.. so stop arguing It actually saw the people in the claim galaxy..... For the records Read about what Sciencetist are descovering about the accidents people like Summering, Annunaki, this people are had tall has Palm tree...they Giants not a dual like us Nothing to debunk for you.... If you see how sun set you see it's go murky in the sky...so what evidence did you want me to show you again |
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by Expanse2020(m): 8:49pm On Jan 28 |
TenQ:That knowledge are now what scientist from several country will come over to discover in computer age.. Did you know that Allah said everything in this earth including human being, plant , was made up of water, did you know when Muhammed (S.A.W.) said after he left the earth to meet our creator, he said their is a bet holding this earth but the NASA didn't see the bet but they believe their is imagine bet holding this earth... Did you know what Muhammed said about the black hole(portal to the heaven )and what he discover and what Sciencetist are saying now about.. Did you know Quran called a lier like a sin forelock and science also confirm it where your lie is generated 🤣🤣😂🤣🤣🤣🤣 Did you know 12 months and 365days are mentioned in Quran but that time they are actually using 13months How much more must I described the mighty of Allah our creator to you to left you in a shocking state., Debate in anywhere Biology, Agriculture, history, mathematics, physics through Quran all answer is there for you in Quran |
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by TenQ: 9:05pm On Jan 28 |
Expanse2020:You can see that your conjectures are getting worse and worse! Is it true that their are Aliens near our Sun!? Please how did Dhulqanain (a human being) even get close to the sun? Don't forget how Dhulqanain traveled on the earth not in a space ship! |
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by Expanse2020(m): 9:16pm On Jan 28 |
TenQ:So you believe aliens are near sun but you can't believe that another person sees aliens in the bronze age until Sciencetist told you that aliens are in another Galaxy but your God is short of knowledge and bible didn't mention that there is another Galaxy that people also live there or your God is not aware... Big mighty Allah always said he is all knowing what is under and in between the earths and above the seven heaven |
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by TenQ: 9:35pm On Jan 28 |
Expanse2020:It takes only one mistake by Allah for us to know that he is fake. Why!? Because God CANNOT make a mistake. The true God must know how babies are formed and He must know that sperms come from the testes while the egg come from the ovaries. The true God must know that the sun does not set and it only appears to us on earth as such. God must certainly know that the sun does not go anywhere and that the sun doesn't go inside any murky water The true God must know that there is no reproductive fluid that is produced from the rib bones of a woman. If Allah fail in just one, he has failed in ALL because God cannot make a mistake! |
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by TenQ: 9:39pm On Jan 28 |
Expanse2020:I said : Is it true that their are Aliens near our Sun!? I did not say Aliens live around the sun. I asked a simple question : Is Dhulqanain not a human being? Please how did Dhulqanain (a human being) even get close to the sun and found a people there? Did Dhulqanain traveled out of the earth in a space ship? |
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by Expanse2020(m): 9:57pm On Jan 28 |
TenQ:So sun doesn't set wright you mean😂🤣😂 |
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by TenQ: 10:03pm On Jan 28 |
Expanse2020:No sir. The sun does not set, it only appears to to set in the west as the earth is not flat but spherical |
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by Expanse2020(m): 10:10pm On Jan 28 |
TenQ:Your head de pain you Sun doesn't set but set in the west You like spilt jagoon out with what your brain.. it's steady of you to look for knowledge you can only argue up and down |
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by Derring: 10:22pm On Jan 28 |
Ok |
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by TenQ: 10:30pm On Jan 28 |
Expanse2020:I can perceive that you never learnt anything either in Geography or Biology. No wonder your responses. You will note that no other Muslim is joining you make these ignorant claims you are making. I will suggest you read up and educate yourself in the basic sciences. Have a good night rest until another time. |
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by Expanse2020(m): 10:46pm On Jan 28 |
TenQ:Olodo wey no sabi anything on Science they claimed nothing,..... Go rest abeg. When you get solid evidence for the debate you want put mouth come we they for you, you go learn tired..... You can't coat a single verse from that book of yours supporting science, or geography,or human relations or family and child upbringing Unless to be coating me and my father are One whose author of the book are more than 40s😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 The word of God written by 40mens no wonder it's highly parallax to errors |
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by honesttalk21: 12:07am On Jan 29 |
TenQ: You can clearly see the Imran referred too in Surah Imran. The two Imrans are distinct figures in Islamic tradition. Imran the father of Moses, is a figure from earlier biblical times. This Imran was from the lineage of the Prophet Jacob and the father of Moses (Musa), Aaron (Harun), and their sister Miriam (Maryam in Islamic tradition, but not to be confused with Maryam the mother of Jesus). The Qur;an mentions the family of Imran as a blessed lineage in the following verse: “ Allah chose Adam and Noah and the family of Abraham and the family of Imran over the worlds - Descendants, some of them from others. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing; (Quran 3:33-34) On the other hand, another Imran is mentioned in Islamic tradition as the father of Mary (Maryam), the mother of Jesus (Isa). This Imran is referenced in the Quran in relation to the birth of Maryam: (Remember) when the wife of Imran said, My Lord, indeed I have pledged to You what is in my womb, consecrated (for Your service), so accept this from me.' (Quran 3:35) Though they share the same name, the context of their stories and their timelines clearly indicate that they are different individuals separated by many generations. The name Imran is translated as Amram in the Bible, where he is also recognized as the father of Moses but is different from the father of Mary who bore Jesus. |
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by honesttalk21: 12:08am On Jan 29 |
TenQ: And as such you sought to lie and deceive? |
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by honesttalk21: 12:12am On Jan 29 |
TenQ: You have been informed that what emerges from the between the ribs of the woman and her backbone is the baby housed in her womb during gestation? Why do you hold on to misconceptions when the facts have been made clear? Where is the womb of a woman located during the gestatio period? |
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by honesttalk21: 12:17am On Jan 29 |
TenQ: Realistically speaking because you have a father then there becomes zero regards to your maternal origin? There are matrilineal and patrynal ancestry with the case of Jesus who has no earthly father who's ancestry will be used unless you agree with slander that Mary (God forbid) had premarital affairs which resulted in a child? Why will God implicitly lie about Jesus's paternal ancestry when he has no earthly father. Oh this Biblical god and Tenq are one of a lieing kind. |
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by honesttalk21: 12:32am On Jan 29 |
TenQ: Is it a lie that the Quran was passed down orally and used for prayers in congregations from the early followers of prophet Muhammad till date? Is it a lie that stringent scrutiny is made to ensure the Quran is properly and correctly recited? Though there is scrutiny with the hadith is it the same level as the Quran? A prayer is not valid without the recitation of Surah Fatiha of the Quran which hadith omitted invalidates the prayer? Tell me. |
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by honesttalk21: 1:59am On Jan 29 |
TenQ: In this verse, the Quran is using the language and the vocabulary that the Arab could understand. The Quran is not telling us a scientific fact. It is just telling what Dhul-Qarnayn saw with his eyes. His perception/feeling of what was happening. Consider in comparison the phenomenon of the sun appearing to set into the mountains is an optical illusion caused by the Earth’s rotation and the position of the observer in relation to the landscape. When the sun is close to the horizon, its light passes through a greater thickness of the Earth’s atmosphere, which scatters shorter wavelengths (blue and green light) and allows longer wavelengths (red and orange light) to reach our eyes. This scattering effect causes the sun to appear larger and gives it a reddish-orange hue, creating a visually striking scene when it seemingly sets behind a mountain range. Our visual perception can be influenced by several factors. The relative scale of the mountains compared to the sun can create an illusion that the sun is setting directly behind them. Additionally, atmospheric conditions such as haze or cloud cover can further enhance this effect by diffusing and refracting sunlight, adding to the impression that the sun is descending into or behind the mountains. Dhul Qarnayn saw the sun setting in a muddy spring. That’s how he sees it and that’s how it appeared to him (perception not actual). The verse in question does not imply that the sun actually sets in murky waters. It is a figurative expression used to describe the experience of the people mentioned in the story. It is important to interpret the Quranic verses in their proper context and consider the figurative language used. Ibn Kathir says: Until, when he reached the setting place of the sun,) means, he followed a route until he reached the furthest point that could be reached in the direction of the sun's setting, which is the west of the earth. As for the idea of his reaching the place in the sky where the sun sets, this is something impossible[color=#770077][/color], and the tales told by storytellers that he traveled so far to the west that the sun set behind him are not true at all. Most of these stories come from the myths of the People of the Book and the fabrications and lies of their heretics. وَجَدَهَا تَغۡرُبُ فِى عَيۡنٍ حَمِئَةٍ۬ (he found it setting in a spring of Hami'ah) meaning, he saw the sun as if it were setting in the ocean. This is something which everyone who goes to the coast can see: it looks as if the sun is setting into the sea but in fact it never leaves its path in which it is fixed. Hami'ah is, according to one of the two views, derived from the word Hama'ah, which means mud. Ala Maududi also says: “The setting place of the sun” does not mean the place of the setting of the sun. According to Ibn Kathir, it means that he marched to the west conquering one country after the other till he reached the last boundary of the land, beyond which there was ocean. “He found it setting in a muddy spring”: If Zul Qarnain was Cyrus, then that place would be the western limit of Asia Minor and the black waters would be the Aegean Sea. This interpretation is supported by the use of the word ain instead of bahr in the Quran. The phrase “وَجَدَهَا تَغۡرُبُ فِى عَيۡنٍ حَمِئَةٍ۬” is from the Arabic language and can be translated to English as “He found it setting in a spring of dark mud” or “He found it setting in a murky spring.” The phrase is often used in the context of describing the sunset, where “it” refers to the sun and “spring of dark mud” or “murky spring” refers to the horizon or the place where the sun appears to set. In Arabic poetry and literature, this phrase is used to depict the beauty of nature and the vivid imagery of a sunset. It conveys a sense of tranquility and paints a picture of the sun descending into a serene, yet mysterious, setting. The use of descriptive language in Arabic poetry is known for its rich symbolism and evocative imagery, and this phrase is a prime example of that. |
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