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Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by TenQ: 6:25pm On Jan 25
Expanse2020:


My answers also is in the Quran
k let start from the beginning for you
Everything from the QURAN

Al alaq (the clot) 1&2
Proclaim! (or read!) in the name of thy Lord and Cherisher, Who created-
Created man, out of a (mere) clot of congealed
blood:
Please find the meaning of clot/leech/ congealed blood you will need it later
At tarik 4-5
Now let man but think from what he is created!

He is created from a drop(a sperm) emitted-
. Proceeding from between the backbone (fluid connect our brains to the scrotum sack it control the stuff during the sex) and the ribs ( where woman fluid produced too during the sex)

Al Mumeen (the believer): 11-14
12. Man We did create from a quintessence (of clay);

13. Then We placed him as (a drop of) sperm in a place of rest, firmly fixed;

14. Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood; then of that clot We made a (foetus) lump;[/b] then we made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then we developed out of it another creature. So blessed be Allah, the best to create

Notes
A single sperm required in most cases to fertilize a egg in women
Allah goes further ; Then We placed him as (a drop of) sperm in a place of rest, firmly fixed;
(the place of rest is a place where the fertilazation take place, firmly fixed at the wall of ovary you can check the ovary/ovum wall how it look like and where fertilization take place in Google...
The process of fertilization is called zygote and zygote happened in a sack which is called embryo development (which is foetus Allah Said

So looking at the zygote picture from Google it filled mainly by congele blood/ clot,leech it what the white man called zygote
does it answer your question
See the attached picture
It seems to you the words of biologists is weightier than that of Allah.

Forget science for now and let's look into the perfect words of Allah that describes how reproduction takes place.

Again, let's focus on the words of Allah full of wisdom and insight.


According to Qur'an 23:14:
What did Allah turn into a clot of congealed blood?


Qur'an 23:14
Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood; then of that clot We made a (foetus) lump; then we made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then we developed out of it another creature. So blessed be Allah, the best to create!



It is a simple question :
What did Allah say he turned into blood according to Qur'an 23:14?



After this, we can continue : you are too much in a hurry.


After this, we shall talk about another goof of Allah with respect to reproduction in Qur'an 86:6-7
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by Expanse2020(m): 6:30pm On Jan 25
TenQ:

I don't know why you are feigning dumb!
Read Qur'an 23:14 again ( it is the words of Allah) slowly and answer the question :

According to Qur'an 23:14:
What did Allah turn into a clot of congealed blood?


Qur'an 23:14
Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood; then of that clot We made a (foetus) lump; then we made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then we developed out of it another creature. So blessed be Allah, the best to create!



It is a simple question :
What did Allah say he turned into blood according to Qur'an 23:14?



It is obvious that:
I did not ask you how biologists think a baby is formed


You are funny and dumb man I explain Quran verses to you and also back it up with Science..... And you are not ashamed that
The book of 1400 years is inline with what Science of 18-1900 till now discover.... And you keep lying to yourself,your soul
No wonder Quran said
You shall see the signs, wonders and the word of Allah but you will still reject the faith and called it a lie

Another place he said you will drag by your sinful forelock and you will drag by your forelock 🤣🤣😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by TenQ: 6:35pm On Jan 25
Expanse2020:

You are funny and dumb man I explain Quran verses to you and also back it up with Science..... And you are not ashamed that
The book of 1400 years is inline with what Science of 18-1900 till now discover.... And you keep lying to yourself,your soul
No wonder Quran said
You shall see the signs, wonders and the word of Allah but you will still reject the faith and called it a lie

Another place he said you will drag by your sinful forelock and you will drag by your forelock 🤣🤣😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It is so funny how you Muslims behave when avoiding the truth.

I didn't ask you any question relating to clot, zygote, biology, reproduction etc. My question is simple and is just one

Again, let's focus on the words of Allah full of wisdom and insight.


According to Qur'an 23:14:
What did Allah turn into a clot of congealed blood?


Qur'an 23:14
Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood; then of that clot We made a (foetus) lump; then we made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then we developed out of it another creature. So blessed be Allah, the best to create!



It is a simple question :
What did Allah say he turned into blood according to Qur'an 23:14?
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by Expanse2020(m): 6:55pm On Jan 25
TenQ:

It seems to you the words of biologists is weightier than that of Allah.

Forget science for now and let's look into the perfect words of Allah that describes how reproduction takes place.

Again, let's focus on the words of Allah full of wisdom and insight.


According to Qur'an 23:14:
What did Allah turn into a clot of congealed blood?


Qur'an 23:14
Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood; then of that clot We made a (foetus) lump; then we made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then we developed out of it another creature. So blessed be Allah, the best to create!



It is a simple question :
What did Allah say he turned into blood according to Qur'an 23:14?



After this, we can continue : you are too much in a hurry.


After this, we shall talk about another goof of Allah with respect to reproduction in Qur'an 86:6-7
Quran verses
Now let man but think from what he is created! (What is it create from)

He is created from a drop emitted-(a drop sperm from male)
Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs (yolk form as a result menses):

Then We placed him as (a drop of) sperm in a place of rest (fallopian tube), firmly fixed;

When sex take place the sperms swim to ovaryduct mixed with yolk and move to a fallopian tube reverse by Allah ( a place of rest and firmly fixed)

[b]Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood;[b] then of that clot
And this is where your problem lies...

In the fallopian tube the sperm mixed with the yolk form a zygote sack which inside it, it is mainly thick blood/! congealed blood and zygote began develop to embryo called foetus as confirm by Quran

The zygote sack is mainly clot and I also show u picture of it for a clearer understand

I answer your question
Tell me what your bible said about this or does is it contradict it.,....
So Allah said he turn sperm to a blood there is now lie in that that why after 7 to 9month we have a new baby as Quran said it and

if you have any dis-opinion you can proof me wrong
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by Expanse2020(m): 6:57pm On Jan 25
TenQ:

It is so funny how you Muslims behave when avoiding the truth.

I didn't ask you any question relating to clot, zygote, biology, reproduction etc. My question is simple and is just one

Again, let's focus on the words of Allah full of wisdom and insight.


According to Qur'an 23:14:
What did Allah turn into a clot of congealed blood?


Qur'an 23:14
Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood; then of that clot We made a (foetus) lump; then we made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then we developed out of it another creature. So blessed be Allah, the best to create!



It is a simple question :
What did Allah say he turned into blood according to Qur'an 23:14?


he turn sperm into blood🤣🤣😂🤣
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by TenQ: 7:03pm On Jan 25
Expanse2020:
he turn sperm into blood🤣🤣😂🤣
Good!


Does or can the sperm turn into blood according to biological science?
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by Expanse2020(m): 7:23pm On Jan 25
TenQ:

Good!


Does or can the sperm turn into blood according to biological science?

Yes
Otherwise proof me wrong

But I taught you said we don't need Science before😂😂😂🤣
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by honesttalk21: 7:45pm On Jan 25
TenQ:

I can see that the Qur'an from Allah established a clear line of ancestry from Amran to Moses, Aaron and "Mary"!
An obvious historical goof.
How did Allah make Mary the Mother of Jesus a Sister of Aaron? The gap between the two Mary (Miriam) is at least 1200 years? We need your explanation sir!

The Bible gives a clear line of ancestry between Miriam and Amran sir.
Exo 15:20:
"And Miriam the prophetess, the sister of Aaron, took a tambourine in her hand; and all the women went out after her with tambourines and with dances."


Num 26:59:
"And the name of Amram's wife was Jochebed, the daughter of Levi, whom her mother bore to Levi in Egypt: and she bore to Amram Aaron and Moses, and Miriam their sister."


Can you show me from your Qur'an how Mary the mother of Jesus became the sister of Aaron?



Why are you avoiding my questions?

You still have not explained :
How did Allah forget how reproduction was to take place?
1. Your prophet says that the sperms spend 40 days in the womb!
2. Allah says sperms become blood!


Can you explain how your God Allah made this mundane error?

To show that Allah seem not to be aware of History

Can you please show me where the wall that Dhulqanains built against the people of Gog and Maggog that is insurmountable?

Qur'an 18:97
Thus were they (Gog and Magog) made powerless to scale it or to dig through it.


Till today, we are still looking for such great wall: can you please shownilusnwhere it is?


Did Solomon die for almost one year with non of his wives, children, soldiers, palace attendants and chiefs knowing?

Quran 34:14
And when We decreed death for him, nothing showed his death to them save a creeping creature of the earth which gnawed away his staff. And when he fell the jinn saw clearly how, if they had known the Unseen, they would not have continued in despised toil.


The three clerics we saw were unanimous in their commentaries

1. Tafsir Ibn Kathir Qur'an 34:14
2. Tafsir Ibn ‘Abbâs Qur'an 34:14
3. Tafsir Al-Jalalayn Qur'an 34:14


Could this be from the Almighty God?

No sir!

Indeed you are not really interested in this discussion about the person of Mary who bore Jesus. Then you or your Bible lie. Did you say Mary's father is Heli?

TenQ:

Heli is the Father of Mary who is the father in law to Joseph. The Bible said nothing about the mother of Mary.

Meanwhile
Matthew 1:16 says And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ

Also;

Luke 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli

Now is it Heli or Jacob who begot Joseph the biblical figure taken to be Jesus's father?

If indeed Heli is the father of Mary then this is clearly a relationship of incest by your saying. How can children of one father get married and consumate their marriage unless you say it was never consummated making the ruse even bigger.

Was Heli a common name between the fathers of both Jacob and Mary? Show this to be so as what is seen so far doesn't say so.
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by Expanse2020(m): 8:15pm On Jan 25
TenQ:

Good!


Does or can the sperm turn into blood according to biological science?

Proof me wrong OOO
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by honesttalk21: 8:51pm On Jan 25
@Expanse2020

He cannot prove anything as he is very limited in thoughts and comprehension. Failing to understand the wise ways of verses and prose.

Then We made the Nutfah into a clot,) meaning, `then We made the Nutfah, which is the water gushing forth that comes from the loins of man, i.e., his back, and the ribs of woman, i.e., the bones of her chest, between the clavicle and the breast. Then it becomes a red clot, like an elongated clot.’ `Ikrimah said, “This is blood

He will literally now take up where semen comes from not being the back without considering the relationship between the prostate and the back. Maybe when he has lower back injury though we don't wish him that he will realise the role of nerves there with the prostate.

The nerves and blood vessels that supply the prostate gland pass through the pelvis and lower back. Any issues with the lower back, such as muscle imbalances, poor posture, or spinal misalignments, can potentially affect the function of these nerves and blood vessels. Consequently, this may lead to discomfort in the prostate area or impact its ability to function properly.

The superficial reference to the process of fertilisation and embryology cannot be appreciated. He is looking for exact detailed science without being aware of the signs. Maybe when he journeys into the sun he will understand how it creates and transmits light.
undecided
Anyway he can not comprehend the core which is the reminder to mankind of where he originates from. Indeed he and many like him are fixated on their wrong inadequate key points.

Good job akhi. May Allah accept your acts to clear misconception.
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by TenQ: 8:54pm On Jan 25
Expanse2020:

Yes
Otherwise proof me wrong

But I taught you said we don't need Science before😂😂😂🤣
Prove you and Allah wrong ke!?
Thanks for the new science : we learn everyday you know!
At least from you and Allah, I have learnt that for reproduction to take place, the sperm will first turn into some congealed blood.


Let's leave this and take a similar scientific miracle of Allah with respect to reproduction. You were kind enough to make reference to it.

Qur'an 86:5-7
“So let man see from what he is created!
He is created from a water gushing forth
Proceeding from between the back-bone (of the man) (as-sulb) and the ribs (of the woman) (at-taraa’ib)”


To be certain of what this verse of Allah mean, I consulted a few of your scholars

1. Tafsir Qur'an 86.7 Abbas - Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs
(That issued from between the loins) of a man (and ribs) the ribs of a woman.

2. Tafsir Qur'an 86.6-7 Asrar - Kashf Al-Asrar
He was created of gushing water, emerging from between the loins and the chest.
When the human individual was created, he was created from water thrown and spilled, a water that came forth from the back of the man and from the bones within the woman's breast. First he was a sperm drop, which God then made into a clot with His power.


3. Tafsir Qur'an 86.7 Jalal - Al-Jalalayn
issuing from between the loins, of the man, and the breast-bones, of the woman.


4. Tafsir Qur'an 86:1-10 Ibn Kathir
.. (He is created from a water gushing forth.) meaning, the sexual fluid that comes out bursting forth from the man and the woman. Thus, the child is produced from both of them by the permission of Allah. Due to this Allah says, (Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs.) meaning, the backbone (or loins) of the man and the ribs of the woman, which is referring to her chest. Shabib bin Bishr reported from `Ikrimah who narrated from Ibn `Abbas that he said,
(Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs.) "The backbone of the man and the ribs of the woman. It (the fluid) is yellow and fine in texture. The child will not be born except from both of them (i.e., their sexual fluids).'' Concerning Allah's statement,...



You will wonder why I had to go get the concensus of your scholars : because I know that you will deny the interpretation of the Qur'an if I just relate it.


My Questions :
1. What is the name of the yellow reproductive fluid of the woman according to biological sciences?
2. Is it true that the woman's reproductive fluid come from her Taraib (the rib bones close to her neck area)?
3. Is the Ovum (Egg) of a woman a fluid according to biological sciences?


Thank you sir!
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by TenQ: 9:03pm On Jan 25
honesttalk21:
@Expanse2020

He cannot prove anything as he is very limited in thoughts and comprehension. Failing to understand the wise ways of verses and prose.

Then We made the Nutfah into a clot,) meaning, `then We made the Nutfah, which is the water gushing forth that comes from the loins of man, i.e., his back, and the ribs of woman, i.e., the bones of her chest, between the clavicle and the breast. Then it becomes a red clot, like an elongated clot.’ `Ikrimah said, “This is blood

He will literally now take up where semen comes from not being the back without considering the relationship between the prostate and the back. Maybe when he has lower back injury though we don't wish him that he will realise the role of nerves there with the prostate.

The nerves and blood vessels that supply the prostate gland pass through the pelvis and lower back. Any issues with the lower back, such as muscle imbalances, poor posture, or spinal misalignments, can potentially affect the function of these nerves and blood vessels. Consequently, this may lead to discomfort in the prostate area or impact its ability to function properly.

The superficial reference to the process of fertilisation and embryology cannot be appreciated. He is looking for exact detailed science without being aware of the signs. Maybe when he journeys into the sun he will understand how it creates and transmits light.
undecided
Anyway he can not comprehend the core which is the reminder to mankind of where he originates from. Indeed he and many like him are fixated on their wrong inadequate key points.

Good job akhi. May Allah accept your acts to clear misconception.
Then, why didn't you help him answer the small question I repeatedly asked him. I hadn't even asked him about Qur'an 86:5-7 for which you based your response.

Allah says

Qur'an 23:14
Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood; then of that clot We made a (foetus) lump; then we made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then we developed out of it another creature. So blessed be Allah, the best to create!




According to Qur'an 23:14:
What did Allah turn into a clot of congealed blood?




Again, without going into details of the biology
It is a simple question :
What did Allah say he turned into blood according to Qur'an 23:14?
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by TenQ: 9:22pm On Jan 25
honesttalk21:


Indeed you are not really interested in this discussion about the person of Mary who bore Jesus. Then you or your Bible lie. Did you say Mary's father is Heli?



Meanwhile
Matthew 1:16 says And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ

Also;

Luke 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli

Now is it Heli or Jacob who begot Joseph the biblical figure taken to be Jesus's father?

If indeed Heli is the father of Mary then this is clearly a relationship of incest by your saying. How can children of one father get married and consumate their marriage unless you say it was never consummated making the ruse even bigger.

Was Heli a common name between the fathers of both Jacob and Mary? Show this to be so as what is seen so far doesn't say so.




Genealogy amongst the Jews is typically through the Partriachal line and never through the mother. Thus, in Luke, Joseph was presented as the Son of Heli (being properly the Son-in-Law). Mathew drew his ancestry through Joseph such that In Mathew, it was clearly stated Jacob begat Joseph.

If you cannot understand this, too bad.
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by TenQ: 9:25pm On Jan 25
@ honesttalk21

Since you seem to be interested in the scientific knowledge of Allah, you may help out your brother


Allah says

Qur'an 86:5-7
“So let man see from what he is created!
He is created from a water gushing forth
Proceeding from between the back-bone (of the man) (as-sulb) and the ribs (of the woman) (at-taraa’ib)”


To be certain of what this verse of Allah mean, I consulted a few of your scholars

1. Tafsir Qur'an 86.7 Abbas - Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs
(That issued from between the loins) of a man (and ribs) the ribs of a woman.

2. Tafsir Qur'an 86.6-7 Asrar - Kashf Al-Asrar
He was created of gushing water, emerging from between the loins and the chest.
When the human individual was created, he was created from water thrown and spilled, a water that came forth from the back of the man and from the bones within the woman's breast. First he was a sperm drop, which God then made into a clot with His power.


3. Tafsir Qur'an 86.7 Jalal - Al-Jalalayn
issuing from between the loins, of the man, and the breast-bones, of the woman.


4. Tafsir Qur'an 86:1-10 Ibn Kathir
.. (He is created from a water gushing forth.) meaning, the sexual fluid that comes out bursting forth from the man and the woman. Thus, the child is produced from both of them by the permission of Allah. Due to this Allah says, (Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs.) meaning, the backbone (or loins) of the man and the ribs of the woman, which is referring to her chest. Shabib bin Bishr reported from `Ikrimah who narrated from Ibn `Abbas that he said,
(Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs.) "The backbone of the man and the ribs of the woman. It (the fluid) is yellow and fine in texture. The child will not be born except from both of them (i.e., their sexual fluids).'' Concerning Allah's statement,...


You will wonder why I had to go get the concensus of your scholars : because I know that you will deny the interpretation of the Qur'an if I just relate it.


My Questions :
1. What is the name of the yellow reproductive fluid of the woman according to biological sciences?
2. Is it true that the woman's reproductive fluid come from her Taraib (the rib bones close to her neck area)?
3. Is the Ovum (Egg) of a woman a fluid according to biological sciences?


Thank you sir!
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by Expanse2020(m): 9:29pm On Jan 25
TenQ:

Prove you and Allah wrong ke!?
Thanks for the new science : we learn everyday you know!
At least from you and Allah, I have learnt that for reproduction to take place, the sperm will first turn into some congealed blood.


Let's leave this and take a similar scientific miracle of Allah with respect to reproduction. You were kind enough to make reference to it.

Qur'an 86:5-7
“So let man see from what he is created!
He is created from a water gushing forth
Proceeding from between the back-bone (of the man) (as-sulb) and the ribs (of the woman) (at-taraa’ib)”


To be certain of what this verse of Allah mean, I consulted a few of your scholars

1. Tafsir Qur'an 86.7 Abbas - Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs
(That issued from between the loins) of a man (and ribs) the ribs of a woman.

2. Tafsir Qur'an 86.6-7 Asrar - Kashf Al-Asrar
He was created of gushing water, emerging from between the loins and the chest.
When the human individual was created, he was created from water thrown and spilled, a water that came forth from the back of the man and from the bones within the woman's breast. First he was a sperm drop, which God then made into a clot with His power.


3. Tafsir Qur'an 86.7 Jalal - Al-Jalalayn
issuing from between the loins, of the man, and the breast-bones, of the woman.


4. Tafsir Qur'an 86:1-10 Ibn Kathir
.. (He is created from a water gushing forth.) meaning, the sexual fluid that comes out bursting forth from the man and the woman. Thus, the child is produced from both of them by the permission of Allah. Due to this Allah says, (Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs.) meaning, the backbone (or loins) of the man and the ribs of the woman, which is referring to her chest. Shabib bin Bishr reported from `Ikrimah who narrated from Ibn `Abbas that he said,
(Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs.) "The backbone of the man and the ribs of the woman. It (the fluid) is yellow and fine in texture. The child will not be born except from both of them (i.e., their sexual fluids).'' Concerning Allah's statement,...



You will wonder why I had to go get the concensus of your scholars : because I know that you will deny the interpretation of the Qur'an if I just relate it.


My Questions :
1. What is the name of the yellow reproductive fluid of the woman according to biological sciences?
2. Is it true that the woman's reproductive fluid come from her Taraib (the rib bones close to her neck area)?
3. Is the Ovum (Egg) of a woman a fluid according to biological sciences?


Thank you sir!

No don't deviate from the question you ask and I provide answer and I said proof me wrong otherwise if not through
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by Expanse2020(m): 9:30pm On Jan 25
TenQ:

Then, why didn't you help him answer the small question I repeatedly asked him. I hadn't even asked him about Qur'an 86:5-7 for which you based your response.

Allah says

Qur'an 23:14
Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood; then of that clot We made a (foetus) lump; then we made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then we developed out of it another creature. So blessed be Allah, the best to create!




According to Qur'an 23:14:
What did Allah turn into a clot of congealed blood?




Again, without going into details of the biology
It is a simple question :
What did Allah say he turned into blood according to Qur'an 23:14?


Proof me wrong that all what I quoted from Quran is wrong and proof it and you can also use your bible join to proof it wrong🤣🤣🤣
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by TenQ: 9:39pm On Jan 25
Expanse2020:

Proof me wrong that all what I quoted from Quran is wrong and proof it and you can also use your bible join to proof it wrong🤣🤣🤣
You have proved yourself wrong now.

Did you not say that the sperm turn into congealed blood!?

What else do you expect me to say if the above is your science?
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by Expanse2020(m): 9:40pm On Jan 25
TenQ:

Then, why didn't you help him answer the small question I repeatedly asked him. I hadn't even asked him about Qur'an 86:5-7 for which you based your response.

Allah says

Qur'an 23:14
Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood; then of that clot We made a (foetus) lump; then we made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then we developed out of it another creature. So blessed be Allah, the best to create!




According to Qur'an 23:14:
What did Allah turn into a clot of congealed blood?




Again, without going into details of the biology
It is a simple question :
What did Allah say he turned into blood according to Qur'an 23:14?


I have answer it countless time
Yes sperm turn to blood and if it wrong you proof it that is wrong
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by Expanse2020(m): 9:43pm On Jan 25
TenQ:

You have proved yourself wrong now.

Did you not say that the sperm turn into congealed blood!?

What else do you expect me to say if the above is your science?

if you have another opinion that is contrary please feel free to share it and back it up with solid proof from your Bible too
Abi your will Sha said something about sperm, egg, fertilization, zygote, to the fresh flesh
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by TenQ: 9:44pm On Jan 25
Expanse2020:

No don't deviate from the question you ask and I provide answer and I said proof me wrong otherwise if not through
Did you not see that I completely learned from your superior science of Allah (which of course is different from the biology I learnt in school).

Here is another verse of Allah again

Qur'an 86:5-7
“So let man see from what he is created!
He is created from a water gushing forth
Proceeding from between the back-bone (of the man) (as-sulb) and the ribs (of the woman) (at-taraa’ib)”



My Questions :
1. What is the name of the yellow reproductive fluid of the woman according to biological sciences?
2. Is it true that the woman's reproductive fluid come from her Taraib (the rib bones close to her neck area)?
3. Is the Ovum (Egg) of a woman a fluid according to biological sciences?



Thank you sir!
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by honesttalk21: 9:44pm On Jan 25
TenQ:

Genealogy amongst the Jews is typically through the Partriachal line and never through the mother. Thus, in Luke, Joseph was presented as the Son of Heli (being properly the Son-in-Law). Mathew drew his ancestry through Joseph such that In Mathew, it was clearly stated Jacob begat Joseph.

If you cannot understand this, too bad.


So in the name of genealogya here you will lie that Heli is the father of Mary.

Why doesn't this apply to the other Mary; Miriam who married Caleb the son of Yefuneh. She is called the daughter of Amran isn't it?

You defend your categorical lie with inability to understand? I didn't ask of the genealogical father of Mary but actual father of Mary.

This revelation shows why you refused to backup your claims with biblical verses on her parentage. You thought I would not know or refer to it?

Indeed your skills to lie and deceive are incomparable? Repent for these for the kingdom of God is at hand. Be truly born againt and don't lie or does the new covenant free you of this command?
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by Expanse2020(m): 9:45pm On Jan 25
TenQ:

Did you not see that I completely learned from your superior science of Allah (which of course is different from the biology I learnt in school).

Here is another verse of Allah again

Qur'an 86:5-7
“So let man see from what he is created!
He is created from a water gushing forth
Proceeding from between the back-bone (of the man) (as-sulb) and the ribs (of the woman) (at-taraa’ib)”



My Questions :
1. What is the name of the yellow reproductive fluid of the woman according to biological sciences?
2. Is it true that the woman's reproductive fluid come from her Taraib (the rib bones close to her neck area)?
3. Is the Ovum (Egg) of a woman a fluid according to biological sciences?



Thank you sir!
Please proof the first topic wrong and we move to the next if you dare and believe Jesus was the one created you

They shall see the signs, wonders, proof of our creation and still denied the faith and called it false they only wrong themselves, they are the wrongdoers...
Hell is there place 🤣🤣🤣😱😂
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by TenQ: 9:57pm On Jan 25
Expanse2020:

Please proof the first topic wrong and we move to the next if you dare and believe Jesus was the one created you

They shall see the signs, wonders, proof of our creation and still denied the faith and called it false they only wrong themselves, they are the wrongdoers...
Hell is there place 🤣🤣🤣😱😂
You didn't understand my English!?

I said:
I have learned from your superior science of Allah (which of course is different from the biology I learnt in school).

There is no need for argument from a person willing to learn from Allah sir

Here is another verse of Allah from which I'ld like to learn again

Qur'an 86:5-7
“So let man see from what he is created!
He is created from a water gushing forth
Proceeding from between the back-bone (of the man) (as-sulb) and the ribs (of the woman) (at-taraa’ib)”



My Questions :
1. What is the name of the yellow reproductive fluid of the woman according to biological sciences?
2. Is it true that the woman's reproductive fluid come from her Taraib (the rib bones close to her neck area)?
3. Is the Ovum (Egg) of a woman a fluid according to biological sciences?



Thank you sir!
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by TenQ: 10:13pm On Jan 25
honesttalk21:


So in the name of genealogya here you will lie that Heli is the father of Mary.

Why doesn't this apply to the other Mary; Miriam who married Caleb the son of Yefuneh. She is called the daughter of Amran isn't it?

You defend your categorical lie with inability to understand? I didn't ask of the genealogical father of Mary but actual father of Mary.

This revelation shows why you refused to backup your claims with biblical verses on her parentage. You thought I would not know or refer to it?

Indeed your skills to lie and deceive are incomparable? Repent for these for the kingdom of God is at hand. Be truly born againt and don't lie or does the new covenant free you of this command?
Unfortunately sir, it's not up to you for if the Bible is wrong, it is a proof that Allah is an Irrevocable Ignoramus.

Is Allah telling lies or Ignorant of the bible for saying these statements?

Qur'an 7:156-157:
"And I will write down (my mercy) for those who are righteous and give alms and who believe in our signs; who follow the apostle, the unlettered prophet, whom they find written in the Torah and the Gospel that is with them


Qur'an 2:113:
"The Jews say, `The Christians are not (founded) upon anything.' And the Christians say, `The Jews are not (founded) upon anything.' And yet they read the Book."


Quran 3:79:
"It is not for a man to whom is given the Book and wisdom and prophecy that he should then say to people, `Be worshippers of me in place of God.' But rather, `Be true teachers (rabbáníyín), since you teach the Book and you study it earnestly ."


It is either you are smarter than both Allah and your prophet Mohammed OR both Allah and Mohammed are Ignoramus OR Both!

Mr Honesttalk alias Gaskiyamagana
Is Allah being Truthful or not with the verses quoted about the scriptures of the Jews and Christians as itemised above?

Yes or No!?
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by Expanse2020(m): 10:32pm On Jan 25
[quote author=TenQ post=128126697]
You didn't understand my English!?

I said:
I have learned from your superior science of Allah (which of course is different from the biology I learnt in school).

There is no need for argument from a person willing to learn from Allah sir

Here is another verse of Allah from which I'ld like to learn again

Qur'an 86:5-7
“So let man see from what he is created!
He is created from a water gushing forth
Proceeding from between the back-bone (of the man) (as-sulb) and the ribs (of the woman) (at-taraa’ib)”



My Questions :
1. What is the name of the yellow reproductive fluid of the woman according to biological sciences?
2. Is it true that the woman's reproductive fluid come from her Taraib (the rib bones close to her neck area)?
3. Is the Ovum (Egg) of a woman a fluid according to biological sciences?



Thank you sir!

Alhamdulillah it's good to learn about your maker in the beautiful way by the end of everything one they when you see light you will look fo me, lukgaf to take your shaadah in Sha Allah.,
You Sha know the truth and Sha set you free😂😂😂

Prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H) said seek knowledge from the baby till you die
In another hadiths he said find knowledge even if you have to go far as West (China) to seek knowledge which means Muslims always seek for Know
Back to our discussion I have explain it before but you need knowledge to understand this
You will need to study and understand human anatomy for a complex sentence like that

Qur'an 86:5-7[/b]
“So let man see from what he is created!
He is created from a water gushing forth[sperms) Qur'an 86:5-7
“So let man see from what he is created!

Proceeding from between the [b]back-

1. Yolk and inside yolk we have nucleus which turn to a grown man like you later

2 Yes the female reproductive which form the menses are fluid coming from thier Uper part of the body (ribs region)
Have you ask yourself why the menses stop when a woman get pregnant...
3. And science didn't tell us that the egg is a solid (like a block)one and remember when sperm swim inside the egg(if the egg is a solid state it can't be broken by a lazy sperm) it mix with thier female York which is nucleus and begin to form zygote
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by SIRTeee15: 10:48pm On Jan 25
Expanse2020:


My answers also is in the Quran
k let start from the beginning for you
Everything from the QURAN

Al alaq (the clot) 1&2
Proclaim! (or read!) in the name of thy Lord and Cherisher, Who created-
Created man, out of a (mere) clot of congealed
blood:
Please find the meaning of clot/leech/ congealed blood you will need it later
At tarik 4-5
Now let man but think from what he is created!

He is created from a drop(a sperm) emitted-
. Proceeding from between the backbone (fluid connect our brains to the scrotum sack it control the stuff during the sex) and the ribs ( where woman fluid produced too during the sex)

Al Mumeen (the believer): 11-14
12. Man We did create from a quintessence (of clay);

13. Then We placed him as (a drop of) sperm in a place of rest, firmly fixed;

14. Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood; then of that clot We made a (foetus) lump;[/b] then we made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then we developed out of it another creature. So blessed be Allah, the best to create

Notes
A single sperm required in most cases to fertilize a egg in women
Allah goes further ; Then We placed him as (a drop of) sperm in a place of rest, firmly fixed;
(the place of rest is a place where the fertilazation take place, firmly fixed at the wall of ovary you can check the ovary/ovum wall how it look like and where fertilization take place in Google...
The process of fertilization is called zygote and zygote happened in a sack which is called embryo development (which is foetus Allah Said

So looking at the zygote picture from Google it filled mainly by congele blood/ clot,leech it what the white man called zygote
does it answer your question
See the attached picture

At no stage in fertilization or embryology does a fetus look like a blood clot or concealed blood.
Stop the lie.
The blood clots that are seen in miscarriage is from the mother's womb.
That's why when pregnant women bleed. We specifically ask them if they have seen tissue because this is actually the fetus and it confirms miscarriage.
Blood clots only does not confirm miscarriage.
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by Expanse2020(m): 11:06pm On Jan 25
SIRTeee15:


At no stage in fertilization or embryology does a fetus look like a blood clot or concealed blood.
Stop the lie.
The blood clots that are seen in miscarriage is from the mother's womb.
That's why when pregnant women bleed. We specifically ask them if they have seen tissue because this is actually the fetus and it confirms miscarriage.
Blood clots only does not confirm miscarriage.
Stop arguing and sturdy biology or anatomy precisely..

Go and learn my friend
Google is there for you to check the pictures of foetus, embryo sack, zygote and ask yourself how blood in your body is form

Allah answer
We have made in à best form
Glory be to Allah
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by TenQ: 11:20pm On Jan 25
Expanse2020:


Alhamdulillah it's good to learn about your maker in the beautiful way by the end of everything one they when you see light you will look fo me, lukgaf to take your shaadah in Sha Allah.,
You Sha know the truth and Sha set you free😂😂😂

Prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H) said seek knowledge from the baby till you die
In another hadiths he said find knowledge even if you have to go far as West (China) to seek knowledge which means Muslims always seek for Know
Back to our discussion I have explain it before but you need knowledge to understand this
You will need to study and understand human anatomy for a complex sentence like that

Qur'an 86:5-7


“So let man see from what he is created!
He is created from a water gushing forth[sperms) Qur'an 86:5-7
“So let man see from what he is created!

Proceeding from between the back-

1. Yolk and inside yolk we have nucleus which turn to a grown man like you later

2 Yes theemale reproductive which form the menses are fluid coming from thier Uper part of the body (ribs region)
Have you ask yourself why the menses stop when a woman get pregnant...
3. And science didn't tell us that the egg is a solid (like a block)one and remember when sperm swim inside the egg(if the egg is a solid state it can't be broken by a lazy sperm) it mix with thier female York which is nucleus and begin to form zygote
I am not sure you understood my questions sir.

My Question ONE:
1. What is the name of the yellow reproductive fluid of the woman according to biological sciences?
Your response

1. Yolk and inside yolk we have nucleus which turn to a grown man like you later
1. There is no yolk inside a woman
2. The Ovum is NOT a fluid (if you mean)
3. Mohammed said that the fluid of the woman is YELLOW and THIN (that of the man is WHITE and THICK

It cannot be the Ovum : so, what is the Biological name of the fluid described by Allah?


My Question TWO
2. Is it true that the woman's reproductive fluid come from her Taraib (the rib bones close to her neck area)?
Your Response

2 Yes the female reproductive which form the menses are fluid coming from thier Uper part of the body (ribs region)
Have you ask yourself why the menses stop when a woman get pregnant...
a. The Taraib is the topmost rib bone at the necklace area of a woman neck (check any Arabic dictionary)
b. There is no single biology that connects any bones with a woman's reproductive cycle.
c. Menses is the shedding of the lining of the uterous after conception fail to take place.
d. The menses is red and not Yellow sir

Since a woman's reproductive fluid cannot be her menses, Is it true that the woman's reproductive fluid come from her Taraib (the rib bones close to her neck area)?


Question THREE
3. Is the Ovum (Egg) of a woman a fluid according to biological sciences?
Your Response


3. And science didn't tell us that the egg is a solid (like a block)one and remember when sperm swim inside the egg(if the egg is a solid state it can't be broken by a lazy sperm) it mix with thier female York which is nucleus and begin to form zygote
Mohammed said that the reproductive fluid of the man is THICK and White (Semen) while that of the woman is THIN and YELLOW, therefore it cannot be the Ovum.

Sunan Ibn Majah 601
It was narrated from Anas that:
Umm Sulaim asked the Messenger of Allah about a woman who sees in her dream something like that which a man sees. The Messenger of Allah said: "If she sees that and has a discharge, then let her perform a bath." Umm Salamah said: "O Messenger of Allah, does that really happen?" He said: "Yes, the water of the man is thick and white and the water of a woman is thin and yellow. Whichever of them comes first or predominates, the child will resemble (that parent)."


As you can see, the reproductive fluid of the woman is THIN (watery) and YELLOW. Meaning that you're answers conflict with science and therefore very wrong.
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by TenQ: 11:38pm On Jan 25
SIRTeee15:


At no stage in fertilization or embryology does a fetus look like a blood clot or concealed blood.
Stop the lie.
The blood clots that are seen in miscarriage is from the mother's womb.
That's why when pregnant women bleed. We specifically ask them if they have seen tissue because this is actually the fetus and it confirms miscarriage.
Blood clots only does not confirm miscarriage.
Its the new discovery by the Nobel Laurette Professor Mohammed Qutham ibn Abdullah : they found out through Allah that all Muslim men's sperm turn into congealed blood

Qur'an 23:14
Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood; then of that clot We made a (foetus) lump; then we made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then we developed out of it another creature. So blessed be Allah, the best to create!


They have developed a second parallel theory:
1. The reproductive fluid of the woman comes from her top rib bones (around the necklace area)
2. The reproductive fluid of the woman is yellow and thin (That of the man is thick and white)

Qur'an 86:5-7
“So let man see from what he is created!
He is created from a water gushing forth
Proceeding from between the back-bone (of the man) (as-sulb) and the ribs (of the woman) (at-taraa’ib)”


This is what the apprentice of Prof Mohammed Qutham ibn Abdullah is trying to teach us now!

He couldn't tell us the name of the yellow fluid of the woman: neither has he been able to show how the fluid contribute to conception
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by honesttalk21: 12:18am On Jan 26
TenQ:

Unfortunately sir, it's not up to you for if the Bible is wrong, it is a proof that Allah is an Irrevocable Ignoramus.

Is Allah telling lies or Ignorant of the bible for saying these statements?

Qur'an 7:156-157:
"And I will write down (my mercy) for those who are righteous and give alms and who believe in our signs; who follow the apostle, the unlettered prophet, whom they find written in the Torah and the Gospel that is with them


Qur'an 2:113:
"The Jews say, `The Christians are not (founded) upon anything.' And the Christians say, `The Jews are not (founded) upon anything.' And yet they read the Book."


Quran 3:79:
"It is not for a man to whom is given the Book and wisdom and prophecy that he should then say to people, `Be worshippers of me in place of God.' But rather, `Be true teachers (rabbáníyín), since you teach the Book and you study it earnestly ."


It is either you are smarter than both Allah and your prophet Mohammed OR both Allah and Mohammed are Ignoramus OR Both!

Mr Honesttalk alias Gaskiyamagana
Is Allah being Truthful or not with the verses quoted about the scriptures of the Jews and Christians as itemised above?

Yes or No!?

Specifically you Tenq aka twister of truth and grand deceiver using garrulous talk and gish galloping failed to show me exactly who is the actual father of Mary who bore Jesus and who her mother is from your Bible.

You lie that her father is Heli when he is not and cannot tell me who her mother is. How then can you correctly say that she is not a descendant of Amran and due to her being a female akin to a sister of Aaron in discipline and faith extra reference to her spiritual piety?

Oh no. Who are the Biological parents of Mary who bore Jesus for a repeated time? Tell me or agree that you don't know and base your reservations on just your whims.

Why can't the Bible be wrong? Isn't it a book of many authors with their variant recollections of events which must be influenced by their individual or authoritative bias?

Don't use another lie to defend established lies.
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by SIRTeee15: 2:22am On Jan 26
TenQ:

Its the new discovery by the Nobel Laurette Professor Mohammed Qutham ibn Abdullah : they found out through Allah that all Muslim men's sperm turn into congealed blood

Qur'an 23:14
Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood; then of that clot We made a (foetus) lump; then we made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then we developed out of it another creature. So blessed be Allah, the best to create!


They have developed a second parallel theory:
1. The reproductive fluid of the woman comes from her top rib bones (around the necklace area)
2. The reproductive fluid of the woman is yellow and thin (That of the man is thick and white)

Qur'an 86:5-7
“So let man see from what he is created!
He is created from a water gushing forth
Proceeding from between the back-bone (of the man) (as-sulb) and the ribs (of the woman) (at-taraa’ib)”


This is what the apprentice of Prof Mohammed Qutham ibn Abdullah is trying to teach us now!

He couldn't tell us the name of the yellow fluid of the woman: neither has he been able to show how the fluid contribute to conception

Leave am. I will expose him as a quack now. He's not the first and won't be the last.
Re: The Qur'an: Cascade Of Lies ALWAYS Fall Like A Pack Of Cards by SIRTeee15: 2:23am On Jan 26
Expanse2020:

Stop arguing and sturdy biology or anatomy precisely..

Go and learn my friend
Google is there for you to check the pictures of foetus, embryo sack, zygote and ask yourself how blood in your body is form

Allah answer
We have made in à best form
Glory be to Allah

Below are the embryonic stages of a human fetus.
Now show me which stage looks like congealed blood.

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