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I have answer several times on it
It went paradise YES and he saw the Prophets and it's real
Because prophets of Allah are not ordinary person like me and you....is your brain that can't comprehend it

But the prophets are in their graves AND not yet resurrected: Mohammed claimed that he would be the first to be resurrected.

How come sir?

The prophets are in their graves yet also in heaven. Could it be that they are TWO natures yet one?

TenQ:

A person cannot become three: a person is three in one (or at least in Islam, 2 in one).


Why are you afraid of answering my questions: answering it will free you from lack of adequate knowledge

I have asked you several times now to answer a number of questions that would open your eyes to this truth but you seem afraid of its conclusion.
a. When Mohammed went to paradise of the Al-Burak, was his experience real or not real (just a vision or dream)?

2. When a person dies according to Islam and two angels come to question him and ask him the three questions : is it possible that an evil person can avoid being questioned (like if his body is fed to 20 lions or he is cremated by intense fire)?

Answer these questions if you are not afraid of the truth sir!

Show us proof of fed to 20 lions🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lier

And also tell us what happened to human in the grave what your filthy bible said on it...

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Show us proof of fed to 20 lions🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lier

And also tell us what happened to human in the grave what your filthy bible said on it...

The question is easy and it requires either a YES or NO answer!

When a person dies according to Islam and two angels come to question him and ask him the three questions : is it possible that an evil person can avoid being questioned (like if his body is fed to 20 lions or he is cremated by intense fire)?

Sahih Bukhari 1338
Narrated Anas:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "When a human being is laid in his grave and his companions return and he even hears their foot steps, two angels come to him and make him sit and ask him: What did you use to say about this man, Muhammad ? He will say: I testify that he is Allah's slave and His Apostle. Then it will be said to him, 'Look at your place in the Hell-Fire. Allah has given you a place in Paradise instead of it.' " The Prophet (ﷺ) added, "The dead person will see both his places. But a non-believer or a hypocrite will say to the angels, 'I do not know, but I used to say what the people used to say! It will be said to him, 'Neither did you know nor did you take the guidance (by reciting the Qur'an).' Then he will be hit with an iron hammer between his two ears, and he will cry and that cry will be heard by whatever approaches him except human beings and jinns."

TenQ:

But the prophets are in their graves AND not yet resurrected: Mohammed claimed that he would be the first to be resurrected.

How come sir?

The prophets are in their graves yet also in heaven. Could it be that they are TWO natures yet one?

But did you dig or dug their graves to Know they are still there
My answer please

TenQ:

The question is easy and it requires either a YES or NO answer!

When a person dies according to Islam and two angels come to question him and ask him the three questions : is it possible that an evil person can avoid being questioned (like if his body is fed to 20 lions or he is cremated by intense fire)?

When you quoted nonsense and you want me to answer it no way ...show the hadith which said that.....

And tell me what your bible said about grave if it's a word of Jesus

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But did you dig or dug their graves to Know they are still there
My answer please

Are these true or lies agiain from your prophet
Sunan an-Nasa'i 1633
It was narrated from Anas that:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said: "I passed by the grave of Musa, peace be upon him, and he was praying in his grave."

Sunan Abi Dawud 1047
Narrated Aws ibn Aws:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said: Among the most excellent of your days is Friday; on it Adam was created, on it he died, on it the last trumpet will be blown, and on it the shout will be made, so invoke more blessings on me that day, for your blessings will be submitted to me. The people asked: Messenger of Allah, how can it be that our blessings will be submitted to you while your body is decayed? He replied: Allah, the Exalted, has prohibited the earth from consuming the bodies of Prophets.

Your prophet said that they are in their graves!

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When you quoted nonsense and you want me to answer it no way ...show the hadith which said that.....

And tell me what your bible said about grave if it's a word of Jesus

I am surprised you never heard of the narrative of your prophet on the two angels

Sahih Bukhari 1338
Narrated Anas:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "When a human being is laid in his grave and his companions return and he even hears their foot steps, two angels come to him and make him sit and ask him: What did you use to say about this man, Muhammad ? He will say: I testify that he is Allah's slave and His Apostle. Then it will be said to him, 'Look at your place in the Hell-Fire. Allah has given you a place in Paradise instead of it.' " The Prophet (ﷺ) added, "The dead person will see both his places. But a non-believer or a hypocrite will say to the angels, 'I do not know, but I used to say what the people used to say! It will be said to him, 'Neither did you know nor did you take the guidance (by reciting the Qur'an).' Then he will be hit with an iron hammer between his two ears, and he will cry and that cry will be heard by whatever approaches him except human beings and jinns."

So the question again:
Can a person avoid the questioning by these two angels in the grave either through cremation or feeding his corpse to several wild animals?

TenQ:

I am surprised you never heard of the narrative of your prophet on the two angels

Sahih Bukhari 1338
Narrated Anas:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "When a human being is laid in his grave and his companions return and he even hears their foot steps, two angels come to him and make him sit and ask him: What did you use to say about this man, Muhammad ? He will say: I testify that he is Allah's slave and His Apostle. Then it will be said to him, 'Look at your place in the Hell-Fire. Allah has given you a place in Paradise instead of it.' " The Prophet (ﷺ) added, "The dead person will see both his places. But a non-believer or a hypocrite will say to the angels, 'I do not know, but I used to say what the people used to say! It will be said to him, 'Neither did you know nor did you take the guidance (by reciting the Qur'an).' Then he will be hit with an iron hammer between his two ears, and he will cry and that cry will be heard by whatever approaches him except human beings and jinns."

So the question again:
Can a person avoid the questioning by these two angels in the grave either through cremation or feeding his corpse to several wild animals?

Who told you I don't know about the hadith...go see down... nobody can escape the question...if you are cremated or feed to animals after you are dead your soul have its own grave that and your body will be brought to the grave where you will enjoy your suffer as promised by Allah....

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Who told you I don't know about the hadith...go see down... nobody can escape the question...if you are cremated or feed to animals after you are dead your soul have its own grave that and your body will be brought to the grave where you will enjoy your suffer as promised by Allah....

Good!

Then you agree that your Soul is YOU
Just as your Body is YOU

Is it untrue then that you are of Two Natures yet exactly ONE individual ?
Is this not human DUALITY (at least from islamic point of view)!?

Can you explain how TWO is ONE and the same ENTITY?

If you can understand this, you can understand TRINITY
One GOD yet Three Natures as
The Father
The Word
The Holy SPirit

As Christians, we believe that a Human being was Created as a Trinity of
The Body
The Soul
The Spirit
These three is fully Him

Is the SOUL not FULLY answerable for offences committed by the BODY such as Adultery, Murder and Theft?

TenQ:

I am surprised you never heard of the narrative of your prophet on the two angels

Sahih Bukhari 1338
Narrated Anas:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "When a human being is laid in his grave and his companions return and he even hears their foot steps, two angels come to him and make him sit and ask him: What did you use to say about this man, Muhammad ? He will say: I testify that he is Allah's slave and His Apostle. Then it will be said to him, 'Look at your place in the Hell-Fire. Allah has given you a place in Paradise instead of it.' " The Prophet (ﷺ) added, "The dead person will see both his places. But a non-believer or a hypocrite will say to the angels, 'I do not know, but I used to say what the people used to say! It will be said to him, 'Neither did you know nor did you take the guidance (by reciting the Qur'an).' Then he will be hit with an iron hammer between his two ears, and he will cry and that cry will be heard by whatever approaches him except human beings and jinns."

So the question again:
Can a person avoid the questioning by these two angels in the grave either through cremation or feeding his corpse to several wild animals?

Where you died by burning by fire, or piercing into pieces your body will automatically join together and a grave will be allocated for your body and souls
Proof of the ayat that shows when you died by cremenaion or shatter into pieces

Quran 2vs 260
And [mention] when Abraham said, "My Lord, show me how You give life to the dead." [Allāh] said, "Have you not believed?" He said, "Yes, but [I ask] only that my heart may be satisfied." [Allāh] said, "Take four birds and commit them to yourself.1 Then [after slaughtering them] put on each hill a portion of them; then call them - they will come [flying] to you in haste. And know that Allāh is Exalted
in Might and Wise."
I doubt if your religion can provide a proof of what happened in the grave or after death.

Shior you better no waste your time defending fake religion with no proper manual🤣🤣😂🤣🤣

TenQ:

Good!

Then you agree that your Soul is YOU
Just as your Body is YOU

Is it untrue then that you are of Two Natures yet exactly ONE individual ?
Is this not human DUALITY (at least from islamic point of view)!?

Can you explain how TWO is ONE and the same ENTITY?

If you can understand this, you can understand TRINITY
One GOD yet Three Natures as
The Father
The Word
The Holy SPirit

As Christians, we believe that a Human being was Created as a Trinity of
The Body
The Soul
The Spirit
These three is fully Him

Is the SOUL not FULLY answerable for offences committed by the BODY such as Adultery, Murder and Theft?

See blah blah blah you too bluff Man
Jesus has his own body and soul
Tell me what of God according to Christianity
He has his own soul and body..
Can a person have two souls and two bodies..
Kai how did you reason self 🤔🤔🤔

Remember where we started from:

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The part you mentioned three monotheistic religion and you include Christianity got me 🤣🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂😂🤣😂🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣
Because I have debate you several times and you always talk in Trinity how come three have become one ... .......

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See blah blah blah you too bluff Man
Jesus has his own body and soul
Tell me what of God according to Christianity
He has his own soul and body..
Can a person have two souls and two bodies..
Kai how did you reason self 🤔🤔🤔

It is a checkmate Bro:
The best you can do is to deny the truth

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Where you died by burning by fire, or piercing into pieces your body will automatically join together and a grave will be allocated for your body and souls
Proof of the ayat that shows when you died by cremenaion or shatter into pieces

Quran 2vs 260
And [mention] when Abraham said, "My Lord, show me how You give life to the dead." [Allāh] said, "Have you not believed?" He said, "Yes, but [I ask] only that my heart may be satisfied." [Allāh] said, "Take four birds and commit them to yourself.1 Then [after slaughtering them] put on each hill a portion of them; then call them - they will come [flying] to you in haste. And know that Allāh is Exalted
in Might and Wise."
I doubt if your religion can provide a proof of what happened in the grave or after death.

Shior you better no waste your time defending fake religion with no proper manual🤣🤣😂🤣🤣

I have proved how a Person can have at least two natures (Duality) who are fully ONE!

Your SOUL is YOU
just as
Your BODY is YOU
Is this UNTRUE?

Is the SOUL not FULLY answerable for offences committed by the BODY such as Adultery, Murder and Theft?

How is it that the Body and the Soul is different in nature yet ONE being?

TenQ:
Remember where we started from:




It is a checkmate Bro:
The best you can do is to deny the truth



I have proved how a Person can have at least two natures (Duality) who are fully ONE!

Your SOUL is YOU
just as
Your BODY is YOU
Is this UNTRUE?

Is the SOUL not FULLY answerable for offences committed by the BODY such as Adultery, Murder and Theft?

How is it that the Body and the Soul is different in nature yet ONE being?

You are just bluffing nonsense bro
Imagine I said me and my father are using a single soul or using a single body does that make sense to you..yes it will make sense to you but DNA and finger print will just proof you wrong to show how lack of knowledge you are... everyone has his single soul and body to form a single entity... father is different from son

TenQ:
Remember where we started from:




It is a checkmate Bro:
The best you can do is to deny the truth



I have proved how a Person can have at least two natures (Duality) who are fully ONE!

Your SOUL is YOU
just as
Your BODY is YOU
Is this UNTRUE?

Is the SOUL not FULLY answerable for offences committed by the BODY such as Adultery, Murder and Theft?

How is it that the Body and the Soul is different in nature yet ONE being?

You are just bluffing nonsense bro
Imagine I said me and my father are using a single soul or using a single body does that make sense to you..yes it will make sense to you but DNA and finger print will just proof you wrong to show how lack of knowledge you are... everyone has his single soul and body to form a single entity... father is different from son

Imagine the person that created everything with different single entity to be conjuring with another soul

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You are just bluffing nonsense bro
Imagine I said me and my father are using a single soul or using a single body does that make sense to you..yes it will make sense to you but DNA and finger print will just proof you wrong to show how lack of knowledge you are... everyone has his single soul and body to form a single entity... father is different from son

I have never told you that the Trinity of God is Body, Soul and Spirit.
I have never told you that a man has have two bodies, soul and spirit'
I never even insinuated that I or anyone else can share body, soul or spirit with anyone else

I have told you that the Trinity of God is
The Father
The Word and
The Holy Spirit
I have explained Trinity to you using concepts you should know in Islam.

All you are doing now is chasing Strawman arguments!

The main crux of the matter is settled already

To make matters extremely clear for you I asked you these TWO simple questions :

Is the SOUL not FULLY answerable for offences committed by the BODY such as Adultery, Murder and Theft?

How is it that the Body and the Soul is different in nature yet ONE being?

TenQ:

Afraid that answering my questions will betray your prophets position.



Jesus is a direct descendant of David and a descendant of Judah NOT Levi.
Mat 22:42:
"Saying, What think you of Christ (Messiah)? whose son is he? They say to him, The son of David."

It is impossible that Jesus be a Descendant of Judah and a Descendant of Levi at the same time.

Did your Quran say that Jubril is the Holy Spirit? How did you come about your conclusion about the identity of the Holy Spirit is Jibril? Will you then concur that the scripture need not explicitly explain EVERYTHING!

Why did I ask you the questions?

Your prophet said:
Sahih Muslim 2135
Mughira b. Shu'ba reported:
When I came to Najran, they (the Christians of Najran) asked me: You read" O sister of Harun" (i. e. Hadrat Maryam) in the Qur'an, whereas Moses was born much before Jesus. When I came back to Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) I asked him about that, whereupon he said: The (people of the old age) used to give names (to their persons) after the names of Apostles and pious persons who had gone before them.



This can be proven as false just by answering the two questions.

1. Jews name a person through his descendant.
2. We should be able to find countless examples of how the people of old age as claimed by your prophet used to name people according to pious people before them


Again :

1. I challenge you to find just ONE example where a person is referred to as "son of" a person not in his linage amongst the Jews!
2. If you wouldn't lie, (Even though all are sons of Abraham) can Mohammed be referred to as Son of Isreal OR son of Ismail OR both?

Look into history and prove me wrong.

To answer you, lets understand first some concepts in arabic language.

Within Arabic grammar and culture, the use of sister in respect to Maryam and Haurun signifies a symbolic sisterhood based on shared spiritual values rather than a literal familial relationship. This usage underscores their esteemed status and serves as a means of emphasizing their virtuous qualities within Islamic tradition.

It is used metaphorically to emphasize their spiritual connection or their shared virtues.
It serves as a means of highlighting the exemplary qualities of these revered figures and emphasizing their spiritual bond.

Furthermore, your Bible calls Elizabeth the mother of John the Baptist a daughter of Aaron though she literally wasn't his daughter.
[Luke 1:5]
In the days of Herod, King of Judea, there was a priest named Zechari'ah, of the division of Abi'jah; and he had a wife of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elizabeth.

And it also says in Luke 1:36 And behold, Elizabeth, your relative, has also conceived* a son in her old age, and this is the sixth month for her who was called barren (addressing Mary). Some translations actually say Elizabeth your cousin.

Should you agree that Elisabeth is a daughter of Aaron can't same also not apply to Mary?

The relationship between Mary and Elizabeth has even been reported as niece and aunt.
Elizabeth was actually Mary’s aunt, sister of Anna, Mary’s mother. Joida, High Priest of Aaron, was father of Elizabeth and Anna, and thus grandfather of Jesus and of John the Baptist.

TenQ:

Eleazar was a common name in Israel just like John and Mary was a common name

Now you say Mary was a common name but say a mistake was made regarding Miriam (Mary), Moses and Aaron.

TenQ:

I have never told you that the Trinity of God is Body, Soul and Spirit.
I have never told you that a man has have two bodies, soul and spirit'
I never even insinuated that I or anyone else can share body, soul or spirit with anyone else

I have told you that the Trinity of God is
The Father
The Word and
The Holy Spirit
I have explained Trinity to you using concepts you should know in Islam.

All you are doing now is chasing Strawman arguments!

The main crux of the matter is settled already

To make matters extremely clear for you I asked you these TWO simple questions :

Is the SOUL not FULLY answerable for offences committed by the BODY such as Adultery, Murder and Theft?

How is it that the Body and the Soul is different in nature yet ONE being?

Alaye Jesus is a single entity or body on his own
He had his body and soul just like me...
So no different as a human except his birth (spiritual) but we are born in the same manner (her mother carrying him for 9months just like me and you) so what so special and bible said whoever born thorough women is a automatically a siner... No different between me, you and him according to the bible we are all siners by birth 🤣🤣🤣
And God cannot be a sinner, lier, weak not possible He is the Mighty
So don't mix trinity of your to said a human like me is also God🤣🤣🤣 kò lè work

TenQ:

But the prophets are in their graves AND not yet resurrected: Mohammed claimed that he would be the first to be resurrected.

How come sir?

The prophets are in their graves yet also in heaven. Could it be that they are TWO natures yet one?

I was wondering the kind of Father who sent down his son to killed himself for some core criminal on earth just because they spread curruption on earth but the criminal are still duel in thier currupted manner till today..
Jesus died in vain because they didn't stop

The goals was not achieved back then till now
Which kind father created those that cannot be tame but killed his own son to justify thier own curruption....
My own father, or your father cannot do that because they will think straight...

Am just imagine which kind father tell his child to commit succide because of non relitaves..
Tha part not clear óò
Sir make it clear to me oo

honesttalk21:

To answer you, lets understand first some concepts in arabic language.

Within Arabic grammar and culture, the use of sister in respect to Maryam and Haurun signifies a symbolic sisterhood based on shared spiritual values rather than a literal familial relationship. This usage underscores their esteemed status and serves as a means of emphasizing their virtuous qualities within Islamic tradition.

It is used metaphorically to emphasize their spiritual connection or their shared virtues.
It serves as a means of highlighting the exemplary qualities of these revered figures and emphasizing their spiritual bond.

But this is not about Arabic grammar because those speaking to Mary were Jews not Arabs. Therefore, you ought to use Jewish grammar and not arabic grammar as Allah was quoting what the jews said: wasn't he?

Quran 19:27-28
At length she brought (the babe) to her people, carrying him (in her arms), They said: "O Mary! Truly a strange thing has thou brought! "O sister of Aaron, thy father was not a man of evil, nor your mother a woman unchaste!"

Hence, it is imperative for you to show examples of HOW the Jews use this form of expression "O sister of Aaron" culturally and grammatically!

honesttalk21:

Furthermore, your Bible calls Elizabeth the mother of John the Baptist a daughter of Aaron though she literally wasn't his daughter.
[Luke 1:5]
In the days of Herod, King of Judea, there was a priest named Zechari'ah, of the division of Abi'jah; and he had a wife of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elizabeth.

And it also says in Luke 1:36 And behold, Elizabeth, your relative, has also conceived* a son in her old age, and this is the sixth month for her who was called barren (addressing Mary). Some translations actually say Elizabeth your cousin.

Should you agree that Elisabeth is a daughter of Aaron can't same also not apply to Mary?

The relationship between Mary and Elizabeth has even been reported as niece and aunt.
Elizabeth was actually Mary’s aunt, sister of Anna, Mary’s mother. Joida, High Priest of Aaron, was father of Elizabeth and Anna, and thus grandfather of Jesus and of John the Baptist.

Elizabeth can be called daughter of Aaron but not SISTER of Aaron for she is a descendant of Aaron from the tribe of Levi.
Mary is from the Tribe of Judah hence she is not qualified to be Daughter of Aaron not to talk of Sister of Aaron

honesttalk21:

Now you say Mary was a common name but say a mistake was made regarding Miriam (Mary), Moses and Aaron.

At the time of Jesus, Mary was a common name at it was a variant of Miriam (which was an uncommon ancient name).
This is why even Moses, Miriam, Aaron were all uncommon ancient names in the ancient history of the Jews.





Can you look at this contradiction!?
Quran 19:27-28
At length she brought (the babe) to her people, carrying him (in her arms), They said: "O Mary! Truly a strange thing has thou brought! "O sister of Aaron, thy father was not a man of evil, nor your mother a woman unchaste!"

Quran 66:12
And (Allah has also cited the example of) Maryam, daughter of ‘Imrān who guarded her chastity, so We breathed into her Our spirit, and she testified to the truth of the words of her Lord and His books, and she was one of the devout.

1. Is it a coincidence that Mariam in the Torah was the Sister of Aaron and also the Daughter of Imran (Amran) ?
2. How is Mary a SISTER of Aaron when if she is a far descendant of Aaron? Should Mary not be called DAUGHTER of Aaron?
3. can you find instances amongst the JEWS where "SISTER" means other than sister (descendant)?

4a. In the verse below, Who is this woman ?
b. Is she the mother of Mary?
Quran 3:35
(Remember) when a woman said: My Lord! I have vowed unto Thee that which is in my belly as a consecrated (offering). Accept it from me. Lo! Thou, only Thou, art the Hearer, the Knower!

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Alaye Jesus is a single entity or body on his own
He had his body and soul just like me...
So no different as a human except his birth (spiritual) but we are born in the same manner (her mother carrying him for 9months just like me and you) so what so special and bible said whoever born thorough women is a automatically a siner... No different between me, you and him according to the bible we are all siners by birth 🤣🤣🤣
And God cannot be a sinner, lier, weak not possible He is the Mighty
So don't mix trinity of your to said a human like me is also God🤣🤣🤣 kò lè work

You are just reiterating rhetorics and it doesn't help your case one bit

1. Is the SOUL not FULLY answerable for offences committed by the BODY such as Adultery, Murder and Theft?
2. How is it that the Body and the Soul is different in nature yet ONE being?

Just admit that you don't know because God cannot be confined in a box.

Let me help you with another hadith that will help your understanding:

Sahih Bukhari 1145
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) (p.b.u.h) said, "Our Lord, the Blessed, the Superior, comes every night down on the nearest Heaven to us when the last third of the night remains, saying: "Is there anyone to invoke Me, so that I may respond to invocation? Is there anyone to ask Me, so that I may grant him his request? Is there anyone seeking My forgiveness, so that I may forgive him?"

Jami` at-Tirmidhi 3498
Abu Hurairah narrated that the Messenger of Allah said:
“Our Lord descends every night to the nearest heaven, until the last third of the night remains, so He says: ‘Who is calling upon Me so that I may answer him? Who is asking from Me so that I may give him? And who is seeking forgiveness from Me, so that I may forgive him.’”


Allah leaves his throne above the seventh heaven and comes to the nearest heaven to hear you Muslims on the earth: when he does this, who is presiding over the heavens? Is it Jibril?

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I was wondering the kind of Father who sent down his son to killed himself for some core criminal on earth just because they spread curruption on earth but the criminal are still duel in thier currupted manner till today..
Jesus died in vain because they didn't stop

The goals was not achieved back then till now
Which kind father created those that cannot be tame but killed his own son to justify thier own curruption....
My own father, or your father cannot do that because they will think straight...

Am just imagine which kind father tell his child to commit succide because of non relitaves..
Tha part not clear óò
Sir make it clear to me oo

Is this because you cannot answer my questions truthfully?
Why do you want to change the subject of discussion?

I said:
1. But the prophets are in their graves AND not yet resurrected: Mohammed claimed that he would be the first to be resurrected: How come sir?
2. The prophets are in their graves yet also in heaven. Could it be that they are TWO natures yet one?

I am waiting: please respond to this questions!

TenQ:

You are just reiterating rhetorics and it doesn't help your case one bit

1. Is the SOUL not FULLY answerable for offences committed by the BODY such as Adultery, Murder and Theft?
2. How is it that the Body and the Soul is different in nature yet ONE being?

Just admit that you don't know because God cannot be confined in a box.

Let me help you with another hadith that will help your understanding:

Sahih Bukhari 1145
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) (p.b.u.h) said, "Our Lord, the Blessed, the Superior, comes every night down on the nearest Heaven to us when the last third of the night remains, saying: "Is there anyone to invoke Me, so that I may respond to invocation? Is there anyone to ask Me, so that I may grant him his request? Is there anyone seeking My forgiveness, so that I may forgive him?"

Allah leaves his throne above the seventh heaven and comes to the nearest heaven to hear you Muslims on the earth: when he does this, who is presiding over the heavens? Is it Jibril?

Please does he leaf the heaven to the earth

Can you hear Yourself
The person that create whole universe take a sthrow from seven heaven to First heaven does that mean he leaves the heaven to another planet...you are not mature enough man...

It shows you don't read what you posted here, you just blind with hatred for Islam is all I see in you....all this your energy you better use it in good course to study Islam and the Prophet (SAW) to know what is true....

You all you always posted you see how my answers follow it but if I asked you questions you don't have answer for it rather you threw another question to know about Islam

Answer this question if you there
Show me in the bible where Jesus sing, dance, close is eyes when praying, the church he attended, The bible he used during his time

TenQ:

Is this because you cannot answer my questions truthfully?
Why do you want to change the subject of discussion?

I said:
1. But the prophets are in their graves AND not yet resurrected: Mohammed claimed that he would be the first to be resurrected: How come sir?
2. The prophets are in their graves yet also in heaven. Could it be that they are TWO natures yet one?

I am waiting: please respond to this questions!

I have answer it you fail to read is your problem

TenQ:

But this is not about Arabic grammar because those speaking to Mary were Jews not Arabs. Therefore, you ought to use Jewish grammar and not arabic grammar as Allah was quoting what the jews said: wasn't he?

Quran 19:27-28
At length she brought (the babe) to her people, carrying him (in her arms), They said: "O Mary! Truly a strange thing has thou brought! "O sister of Aaron, thy father was not a man of evil, nor your mother a woman unchaste!"

Hence, it is imperative for you to show examples of HOW the Jews use this form of expression "O sister of Aaron" culturally and grammatically!


Elizabeth can be called daughter of Aaron but not SISTER of Aaron for she is a descendant of Aaron from the tribe of Levi.
Mary is from the Tribe of Judah hence she is not qualified to be Daughter of Aaron not to talk of Sister of Aaron


At the time of Jesus, Mary was a common name at it was a variant of Miriam (which was an uncommon ancient name).
This is why even Moses, Miriam, Aaron were all uncommon ancient names in the ancient history of the Jews.





Can you look at this contradiction!?
Quran 19:27-28
At length she brought (the babe) to her people, carrying him (in her arms), They said: "O Mary! Truly a strange thing has thou brought! "O sister of Aaron, thy father was not a man of evil, nor your mother a woman unchaste!"

Quran 66:12
And (Allah has also cited the example of) Maryam, daughter of ‘Imrān who guarded her chastity, so We breathed into her Our spirit, and she testified to the truth of the words of her Lord and His books, and she was one of the devout.

1. Is it a coincidence that Mariam in the Torah was the Sister of Aaron and also the Daughter of Imran (Amran) ?
2. How is Mary a SISTER of Aaron when if she is a far descendant of Aaron? Should Mary not be called DAUGHTER of Aaron?
3. can you find instances amongst the JEWS where "SISTER" means other than sister (descendant)?

4a. In the verse below, Who is this woman ?
b. Is she the mother of Mary?
Quran 3:35
(Remember) when a woman said: My Lord! I have vowed unto Thee that which is in my belly as a consecrated (offering). Accept it from me. Lo! Thou, only Thou, art the Hearer, the Knower!

First the language of revelation of the Quran is Arabic. The Prophet and the immediate community he recited these verses top are Arabians and all speak the same language.
This language and it's peculiar ways are well understood by them.

You talk about the Levi and Judah and seem to deny they are brothers or aren't they.
I asked you about Eleazar and you gave a short answer without elaborating on the genealogy. Perharps you can look into it and tell more.

Maryam guarding her chastity is a character of virtue in good accordance with the spiritual values in common with Aaron.

Who is Mary's father according to the Bible and what type of person was he?

On commonality of names do you say before there were no common names or the coming of the Biblical Jesus established this culture?
You explaining this will be appreciated.

That Mary the mother of Jesus and Miriam the sister of Moses bearing the same name is a coincidence as long as you agree that God does his things by coincidence.

By the way how many people bare the name Jacob in the genealogy of Jesus. Is this too a worthless coincidence?

Sister not daughter in similitude of nature/faith. Do you not address your sisters in Christian faith as sisters; are they all blood relatives or they are now your sisters in a born again concept which really means being reformed of evil ways not literal rebirth.

Sister of Aaron is idiomatic for ‘woman of the clan of Aaron’

Expanse2020:

Please does he leaf the heaven to the earth

Can you hear Yourself
The person that create whole universe take a sthrow from seven heaven to First heaven does that mean he leaves the heaven to another planet...you are not mature enough man...

It shows you don't read what you posted here, you just blind with hatred for Islam is all I see in you....all this your energy you better use it in good course to study Islam and the Prophet (SAW) to know what is true....

You all you always posted you see how my answers follow it but if I asked you questions you don't have answer for it rather you threw another question to know about Islam

Answer this question if you there
Show me in the bible where Jesus sing, dance, close is eyes when praying, the church he attended, The bible he used during his time

Jami` at-Tirmidhi 3498
Abu Hurairah narrated that the Messenger of Allah said:
“Our Lord descends every night to the nearest heaven, until the last third of the night remains, so He says: ‘Who is calling upon Me so that I may answer him? Who is asking from Me so that I may give him? And who is seeking forgiveness from Me, so that I may forgive him.’”


What does it mean to descend?
Allah leaves his throne above the seventh heaven and comes to the nearest heaven to hear you Muslims on the earth: when he does this, who is presiding over the heavens? Is it Jibril?


1. Is the SOUL not FULLY answerable for offences committed by the BODY such as Adultery, Murder and Theft?
2. How is it that the Body and the Soul is different in nature yet ONE being?

Just admit that you don't know because God cannot be confined in a box.

Expanse2020:

I have answer it you fail to read is your problem

I just need you to be explicit.

At least, you have not answered this

The prophets are in their graves yet also in heaven. Could it be that they are TWO natures yet one?

TenQ:

I just need you to be explicit.

At least, you have not answered this

The prophets are in their graves yet also in heaven. Could it be that they are TWO natures yet one?

Go and read all the past two days conversation you will se it there

honesttalk21:


First the language of revelation of the Quran is Arabic. The Prophet and the immediate community he recited these verses top are Arabians and all speak the same language.
This language and it's peculiar ways are well understood by them.

Allah quoted the Jews speaking with Mary!
Are you saying that the quotation of Allah was wrong?

honesttalk21:

You talk about the Levi and Judah and seem to deny they are brothers or aren't they.
I asked you about Eleazar and you gave a short answer without elaborating on the genealogy. Perharps you can look into it and tell more.

Levi and Judah are brothers that constitutes TWO out of the twelve tribes of Israel. If you are a descendant of Levi, you can't be descendant of Judah and vice versa.

You can see the essence of my question that you refused to answer.
If you wouldn't lie, (Even though all are sons of Abraham) can Mohammed be referred to as Son of Isreal OR son of Ismail OR both?

honesttalk21:

Maryam guarding her chastity is a character of virtue in good accordance with the spiritual values in common with Aaron.
Who is Mary's father according to the Bible and what type of person was he?

None of these was the question.
The questions were:
1. Is it a coincidence that Mariam in the Torah was the Sister of Aaron and also the Daughter of Imran (Amran) ?
2. How is Mary a SISTER of Aaron when if she is a far descendant of Aaron? Should Mary not be called DAUGHTER of Aaron?
3. can you find instances amongst the JEWS where "SISTER" means other than sister (descendant)?
4a. In the verse below, Who is this woman ?
b. Is she the mother of Mary?
Quran 3:35
(Remember) when a woman said: My Lord! I have vowed unto Thee that which is in my belly as a consecrated (offering). Accept it from me. Lo! Thou, only Thou, art the Hearer, the Knower!

honesttalk21:

On commonality of names do you say before there were no common names or the coming of the Biblical Jesus established this culture?
You explaining this will be appreciated.

Check the whole of the scripture of the Jews for Names such as Moses, Aaron and Miriam : they are not common names.
Only one moses, only one aaron and only one Miriam.
Check.

At the time of Jesus, Mary (a modified form of Miriam) was common!

honesttalk21:

That Mary the mother of Jesus and Miriam the sister of Moses bearing the same name is a coincidence as long as you agree that God does his things by coincidence.

Also a coincidence that the have brothers of the same name Aaron!?
And Father of the same name Imran!?

This must be a miracle!!

honesttalk21:

By the way how many people bare the name Jacob in the genealogy of Jesus. Is this too a worthless coincidence?
Sister not daughter in similitude of nature/faith. Do you not address your sisters in Christian faith as sisters; are they all blood relatives or they are now your sisters in a born again concept which really means being reformed of evil ways not literal rebirth.
Sister of Aaron is idiomatic for ‘woman of the clan of Aaron’

Is this according to Jewish culture or Arabian culture?
One can have Brothers in Christ or Sisters in Christ: But not Brother of Jesus and Sister of Jesus if they are not sir!

Are you brother of Mohammed?

Why is islam this problematic with historical events?
Admit it: this is an error and it is not the first nor the last of errors in the quran.

Are you aware that just one error disproves the whole quran?

Expanse2020:

Go and read all the past two days conversation you will se it there

You should thank me for teaching you how three can be exactly one!

Now, when Allah descend to the lowest heaven, you know he has to pass through at least six heavens, who is presiding over the heavens?
Is it Jibril?

TenQ:

Jami` at-Tirmidhi 3498
Abu Hurairah narrated that the Messenger of Allah said:
“Our Lord descends every night to the nearest heaven, until the last third of the night remains, so He says: ‘Who is calling upon Me so that I may answer him? Who is asking from Me so that I may give him? And who is seeking forgiveness from Me, so that I may forgive him.’”


What does it mean to descend?
Allah leaves his throne above the seventh heaven and comes to the nearest heaven to hear you Muslims on the earth: when he does this, who is presiding over the heavens? Is it Jibril?


1. Is the SOUL not FULLY answerable for offences committed by the BODY such as Adultery, Murder and Theft?
2. How is it that the Body and the Soul is different in nature yet ONE being?

Just admit that you don't know because God cannot be confined in a box.

Tell if you are in a compounding which have 7 storey building you now come to the first floor does that mean you leave the enter house or compound can't you listening to urself, you are not making sense naw

And you said you are a knowledgeable
person..The almighty Allah created the whole univer hearing all the living and understand all the creature be it on the earth, inside or above the earth, that see to the affairs of everything doesn't need anybody help be it angel,human ,animal plant to do anything..
You are redicuelus....
It's Jesus your Lord that died in three days but we don't know who was controlled the univer when your lord died as claimed by your white man bible🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

TenQ:

You should thank me for teaching you how three can be exactly one!

Now, when Allah descend to the lowest heaven, you know he has to pass through at least six heavens, who is presiding over the heavens?
Is it Jibril?

The mighty does not need help of his creation to do anything 🤣🤣😂 not like any other gods. Who died but we don't know who controls the universe..
Not like Hindu with Thier trinity
Not like Buddhist with Thier trinity
Not like Christians with Thier trinity
Not like Satanic with Thier own trinity too( anti Christ, spirit,God)
But just one (Allah) he only control everything
He cannot die, he does not have begginning like your God, no ending like your God and cannot die like your God
Only him alone is the bearer of his throne and majesty
Remember bible said you can't serve two masters at the same time unless you will be bias.,..that why you are biass to yourmaker and keep shouting invented Jésùs by the Romans who claimed to be God

TenQ:

Allah quoted the Jews speaking with Mary!
Are you saying that the quotation of Allah was wrong?


Levi and Judah are brothers that constitutes TWO out of the twelve tribes of Israel. If you are a descendant of Levi, you can't be descendant of Judah and vice versa.

You can see the essence of my question that you refused to answer.
If you wouldn't lie, (Even though all are sons of Abraham) can Mohammed be referred to as Son of Isreal OR son of Ismail OR both?



None of these was the question.
The questions were:
1. Is it a coincidence that Mariam in the Torah was the Sister of Aaron and also the Daughter of Imran (Amran) ?
2. How is Mary a SISTER of Aaron when if she is a far descendant of Aaron? Should Mary not be called DAUGHTER of Aaron?
3. can you find instances amongst the JEWS where "SISTER" means other than sister (descendant)?
4a. In the verse below, Who is this woman ?
b. Is she the mother of Mary?
Quran 3:35
(Remember) when a woman said: My Lord! I have vowed unto Thee that which is in my belly as a consecrated (offering). Accept it from me. Lo! Thou, only Thou, art the Hearer, the Knower!




Check the whole of the scripture of the Jews for Names such as Moses, Aaron and Miriam : they are not common names.
Only one moses, only one aaron and only one Miriam.
Check.

At the time of Jesus, Mary (a modified form of Miriam) was common!


Also a coincidence that the have brothers of the same name Aaron!?
And Father of the same name Imran!?

This must be a miracle!!

Is this according to Jewish culture or Arabian culture?
One can have Brothers in Christ or Sisters in Christ: But not Brother of Jesus and Sister of Jesus if they are not sir!

Are you brother of Mohammed?

Why is islam this problematic with historical events?
Admit it: this is an error and it is not the first nor the last of errors in the quran.

Are you aware that just one error disproves the whole quran?

Do you claim your Bible is a complete historical collection?

You say certain names were not common but I have in discussion given you two names that appears more than once in different generations? Is that not true that there are more than one Eleazar and Jacob?

Tell me from your Bible about the direct parents of Mary who bore Jesus.

This is a better place to continue this discussion from.