No atheist on nairaland. Those who are claiming " i am an atheist" are not really sincere, they have conscience that is always giving them the second thought. As far as i am concern, anybody can claim to be an atheist on nairaland, but inwardly it is another thing entirely. When things are moving on well, they are always quick to say " i did it through hardwork and scientific reasoning " but if there is a big problem, that is beyond them, they will quickly remember God. God bless them. God2man.

frosbel:

What I am trying to say is that many christians I have met are loud mouths, but beneath the veneer of their bravadosim is a fear of the unknown. A nagging thought that they just might be wrong.
Reminds me of a verse in the bible that goes :

"Men will flee to caves in the rocks and to holes in the ground from dread of the LORD and the splendor of his majesty, when he rises to shake the earth." -  [b]Isaiah 2:19[/b]

Don't worry about shaking the earth if you can't shake a few pseudo arab savages in northern Nigeria.

Martian:

If you're going to make a story up, at least try to use all of your limited intellect to make it sound believable. You were friends with someone who thought you had a smaller brain?? And you worked with him without making complaints to Human Resources?  Come on man!! Was it a pet/owner kind of relationship? The earthquake you described also sounds worse than a 4.0
F#cking lying a$$ christian freak.

Hello my angry friend, the story was not made up, happened in 2002.

See details :

The 2002 Dudley earthquake was an earthquake registering 4.7 on the Richter scale that struck the Midlands of England, on 22 September 2002 23:53 UTC (23 September, 00:53 local time) and lasted approximately 20 seconds.[1]

It was the largest earthquake to hit the UK since the 1990 Bishop's Castle earthquake, but there were no injuries and only minor structural damage. The epicentre was located at the junction of High Arcal Road and Himley Road (grid reference SO898913), in the borough of South Staffordshire, which is just outside the boundaries of the Metropolitan Borough of Dudley and approximately two miles outside Dudley Town Centre.

The tremor was felt over an area of 260,000 square kilometres (100,387 sq mi), including Wales, Liverpool, Derby, Yorkshire, Wiltshire and London. The furthest felt reports came from Carlisle in the north, and Truro in the South. [2]

An aftershock of magnitude 2.7 occurred on 23 September at 03:32 UTC (04:32 local time), and was felt locally throughout Dudley and in Birmingham.[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Dudley_earthquake


Secondly , he was a good friend and was joking at the time . He knew my worth as an engineer with other Africans , so I ignored this comment. We are stil friends btw on Facebook and elsewhere.

Now go and take a chill pill, you seem to be boiling 24x7.

Best wishes for 2012.

FROSBEL.

At poster, Na God u dey talk about like this

frosbel:

Hello my frustrated friend, the story was not made up, happened in 2002.

See details :

The 2002 Dudley earthquake was an earthquake registering 4.7 on the Richter scale that struck the Midlands of England, on 22 September 2002 23:53 UTC (23 September, 00:53 local time) and lasted approximately 20 seconds.[1]

It was the largest earthquake to hit the UK since the 1990 Bishop's Castle earthquake, but there were no injuries and only minor structural damage. The epicentre was located at the junction of High Arcal Road and Himley Road (grid reference SO898913), in the borough of South Staffordshire, which is just outside the boundaries of the Metropolitan Borough of Dudley and approximately two miles outside Dudley Town Centre.

The tremor was felt over an area of 260,000 square kilometres (100,387 sq mi), including Wales, Liverpool, Derby, Yorkshire, Wiltshire and London. The furthest felt reports came from Carlisle in the north, and Truro in the South. [2]

An aftershock of magnitude 2.7 occurred on 23 September at 03:32 UTC (04:32 local time), and was felt locally throughout Dudley and in Birmingham.[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Dudley_earthquake


Secondly , he was a good friend and was joking at the time . He knew my worth as an engineer with other Africans , so I ignored this comment. We are stil friends btw on Facebook and elsewhere.

Now go and take a chill pill, you seem to be boiling 24x7.

Best wishes for 2012.

FROSBEL.

Still don't believe your lies lol.
And talking about boiling 24/7, aren't you the one that is always posting incendiary articles about Muslims, calvinist, Catholics and everyone who doesnt agree with your interpretation of Jewish mythology?

Secondly, he was and still is a friend but you have no problem using "your friend" to score cheap points on nairaland. Great friend you are. Lying piece of sh#t.

Now go pray against the next bomb blast.

Martian:

Still don't believe your lies lol.
And talking about boiling 24/7, aren't you the one that is always posting incendiary articles about Muslims, calvinist, Catholics and everyone who doesnt agree with your interpretation of Jewish mythology?

Now go pray against the next bomb blast.

But I do this over a cup of coffee in a most excellent state of mind.

Christians allow their religion to be bombarded with insults of every sort and type, yet when an article of fact is posted on atheism , Islam etc it is considered intolerant of us.

Wow !!!

frosbel:

But I do this over a cup of coffee in a most excellent state of mind.
Christians allow their religion to be bombarded with insults of every sort and type, yet when an article of fact is posted on atheism , Islam etc it is considered intolerant of us.
Wow !!!

Of course you pray and we all see the results. How arrogant is it of you to think you have power to allow anything because no one needs permission to ridicule your archaic beliefs.

Martian:

Of course you pray and we all see the results. How arrogant is it of you to think you have power to allow anything because no one needs permission to ridicule your archaic beliefs.

So says MARTIN , the epitome of human excellence and intelligence, hahaha 

Bro, calm down, let us not take Nairaland and the articles therein personal 

frosbel:

So says MARTIN , the epitome of human excellence and intelligence, hahaha 

Bro, calm down, let us not take Nairaland and the articles therein personal 

Compared to christians,ESPECIALLY THE NIGERIAN KIND, I am the epitome of human excellence and intelligence.

I am calm, you should stop your personal jewish cyber jihad against LagosShia and the Muslims. Lol

Pray over your coffee or tea, and quit mining the Internet for the most inane Christian propaganda you can find.

[size=13pt]<sup>hello . . .

If u are reading this now i really want to huge u that u should forbid God before he stylishly and trickily destroy u like some of his victims he claim that he loves while he's there planning evil to end their life .--- FORBID GOD , Satan is the only way to unity and peace .^^</sup> [/size]

^^^

On a more serious note, I need to learn some French, please point me in the right direction    , they are a real handful to work with .   

Btw , SATAN is real, do not underestimate the deception of that evil one. The fact that you do not believe in God is due to his hard-work , honestly

[size=13pt]<sup>Très bien cher ami, commençons la leçon française a commencé. où voulez-vous nous le coup d'envoi?^^

I know that Satan is real and no joking though people dunno take me serious . due to centuries of misinformation, lies, and the systematic removal of knowledge, few people these days understand or even know what “Satanism” really is all about.

Christianity has been at liberty to dictate without any opposition, what they CLAIM Satanism to be. In order to accomplish this, the truth had to be destroyed.</sup> [/size]

frosbel:

^^^

On a more serious note, I need to learn some French, please point me in the right direction    , they are a real handful to work with .   

Btw , SATAN is real, do not underestimate the deception of that evil one. The fact that you do not believe in God is due to his hard-work , honestly

This topic should've made the homepage

[size=13pt]^{I have to agree with u on this one -- it wouldn't have made the homepage} [/size]

manmustwac:

This topic should've made the homepage

frosbel:

^^^

I will provide you with 2 spiritually discerned bible verses, hoping that God may open your eyes to understand.

Anyway here goes :

1. Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.- Matthew 10:28

In other words, Christians are subject to the same dangers as all men,  but have this thing going for them, eternal salvation of their souls should death come.  Let us revisit an incident in the new testament where beloved brother Stephen was stoned to death by atheists and murderous men. Consider his reaction carefully.

Acts 7:

That's all well and good, if you want to pretend that those that were murdered were people without friends, families or dependents. So, now that they have been killed in cold blood and their souls have 'travelled to the great beyond', what becomes of the families that lost lost breadwinners, the parents that lost children? It's OK to quote scriptures when you are all nice and safe in your own life. Please don't be so crass and dismissive of the sufferings of others. Also, what the heck does 'eternal salvation' do for you anyways? Have you met anyone that's enjoying their 'eternal salvation' right now?

frosbel:


Here we see that it is God who allowed the devil to gain Power over the saints, just like Christ did not resist his killers but is now seated at the right hand of God , till the cup of sinners is FULL.

God is exercising patience with the world while they hate, kill and ridicule his children.

Again, if god is loving, powerful, and omnipotent, why is this necessary? Please apply wisdom in your thinking.

You can quote all the scripture you want, but the fact of the matter is that religion (and christianity in particular, IMHO) encourages a 'wait for jesus', damsel in distress kind of attitude in it's practitioners. There is no knight in shining armor coming to save you. Please believe it and wisen up!

I think the OP directed his posts to people like you who preach from the comforts of their homes and smugly say it's OK for people to loose their lives and ruin their families for 'eternal salvation', or the 'pastors' like Mr. Oritsejafor who covertly promote violence while hiding behind their pulpits and legions of body guards. What a bunch of hypocrites! Quit spreading ignorance and put yourself on the front lines so you can get bombed for god and accelerate your arrival at the pearly gates!

That's all well and good, if you want to pretend that those that were murdered were people without friends, families or dependents. So, now that they have been killed in cold blood and their souls have 'travelled to the great beyond', what becomes of the families that lost lost breadwinners, the parents that lost children? It's OK to quote scriptures when you are all nice and safe in your own life. Please don't be so crass and dismissive of the sufferings of others. Also, what the heck does 'eternal salvation' do for you anyways? Have you met anyone that's enjoying their 'eternal salvation' right now?

As if to say I am in ecstasy over the death of these people , so that their families can live happily ever after. Take a pause before coming to erratic conclusions.

Death happens to everyone, I personally came in close encounter with death 4 times in my life, twice in Kano when I was almost butchered by your religion of peace siblings , and twice in my teens when I was severely ill.

Nowhere is safe in this temporary life , but be rest assured that if it comes to a point where I have to stand up for my faith or die, I sincerely will choose the later.

Try not to sound so condescending next time.

Again, if god is loving, powerful, and omnipotent, why is this necessary? Please apply wisdom in your thinking.

Ask him , I thought you said there is no GOD

You can quote all the scripture you want, but the fact of the matter is that religion (and christianity in particular, IMHO) encourages a 'wait for jesus', damsel in distress kind of attitude in it's practitioners. There is no knight in shining armor coming to save you. Please believe it and wisen up!

You might want to give that advice to yourself.

I think the OP directed his posts to people like you who preach from the comforts of their homes and smugly say it's OK for people to loose their lives and ruin their families for 'eternal salvation', or the 'pastors' like Mr. Oritsejafor who covertly promote violence while hiding behind their pulpits and legions of body guards. What a bunch of hypocrites! Quit spreading ignorance and put yourself on the front lines so you can get bombed for god and accelerate your arrival at the pearly gates!

Comfort of our homes

How do you know I am comfortable in my home

Listen to me young woman , go and buy a bible , read the entire new testament and wisen up , know Jesus and be saved from your sins.

The alternative is too horrendous to contemplate.

frosbel:


The alternative is too horrendous to contemplate.

What's the alternative?

bayooooooo:

What's the alternative?

" too horrendous to contemplate."

frosbel:

As if to say I am in ecstasy over the death of these people , so that their families can live happily ever after. Take a pause before coming to erratic conclusions.

Death happens to everyone, I personally came in close encounter with death 4 times in my life, twice in Kano when I was almost butchered by your religion of peace siblings , and twice in my teens when I was severely ill.

Nowhere is safe in this temporary life , but be rest assured that if it comes to a point where I have to stand up for my faith or die, I sincerely will choose the later.

Try not to sound so condescending next time.


Ask him , I thought you said there is no GOD

You might want to give that advice to yourself.

Comfort of our homes

How do you know I am comfortable in my home

Listen to me young woman , go and buy a bible , read the entire new testament and wisen up , know Jesus and be saved from your sins.

The alternative is too horrendous to contemplate.

@ Frosbel,
Listen to me old man, I never said there is no god. Quote me saying that so I can correct myself. Also, who are you to suggest that I have not read the bible? You don't know me.

Also, I don't care if you cheated death 4 million times, it still doesn't make it OK for you to try to explain away the fact that people's lives have been ruined, and that men of god are taking style to encourage actions that will inevitably lead to further loss of life.

Also, derailing threads is not a game I play. I stay on topic, so if you want to trade semantics and off topic statements, you can do so, but alas I won't be able to join you. There is a lot of truth to the OP's statement. Religious and non religious people will benefit from reading it, that's all I have to say.

Haribo:

@ Frosbel,
Listen to me old man, I never said there is no god. Quote me saying that so I can correct myself. Also, who are you to suggest that I have not read the bible? You don't know me.

Because I referred to you as 'young woman ' , you call me old man. Well for your info , I am still in my prime. 

Besides, why on earth would I want to know you 

Also, I don't care if you cheated death 4 million times, it still doesn't make it OK for you to try to explain away the fact that people's lives have been ruined, and that men of god are taking style to encourage actions that will inevitably lead to further loss of life.

Again coming to erratic conclusions, I cannot really help you here.

frosbel:

As if to say I am in ecstasy over the death of these people , so that their families can live happily ever after. Take a pause before coming to erratic conclusions.

Death happens to everyone, I personally came in close encounter with death 4 times in my life, twice in Kano when I was almost butchered by your religion of peace siblings , and twice in my teens when I was severely ill.

Nowhere is safe in this temporary life , but be rest assured that if it comes to a point where I have to stand up for my faith or die, I sincerely will choose the later.

Try not to sound so condescending next time.

If death and disaster happens to every one and if there is no evidence that those who pray to your god for protection are better protected from harm and disaster why then do you keep deluding yourselves that you serve a god that is powerful and is the greatest protector?. . .You guys should just drop that point. . .The fact that you guys pray all the time and there is absolute NO evidence to show that you guys are better protected from harm and disasters than hose who poke fun at your god all the time says your god is imaginary, no?

Ask him , I thought you said there is no GOD  

Sure, there is no god, just believe in god is what exist and not the god(s). . .

Comfort of our homes  

How do you know I am comfortable in my home  

Listen to me young woman , go and buy a bible , read the entire new testament and wisen up , know Jesus and be saved from your sins.

The alternative is too horrendous to contemplate.

Fear is and will always remain your god, believe in my mythologies or suffer is the only thing you guys know. . .Just because some deluded men that existed thousands of years ago said that those that do not accept their mythologies, culture, imaginations and conception will suffer when they die does NOT make it so. . . .You DO NOT know anything about death anything you say remains a baseless opinion that is not even yours but that of ancient people and their superstitions. . . .

frosbel:



" too horrendous to contemplate."

So, you don't even know the alternative!  

mazaje:

If death and disaster happens to every one and if there is no evidence that those who pray to your god for protection are better protected from harm and disaster why then do you keep deluding yourselves that you serve a god that is powerful and is the greatest protector?. . .You guys should just drop that point. . .The fact that you guys pray all the time and there is absolute NO evidence to show that you guys are better protected from harm and disasters than hose who poke fun at your god all the time says your god is imaginary, no?


Sure, there is no god, just believe in god is what exist and not the god(s). . .



Fear is and will always remain your god, believe in my mythologies or suffer is the only thing you guys know. . .Just because some deluded men that existed thousands of years ago said that those that do not accept their mythologies, culture, imaginations and conception will suffer when they die does NOT make it so. . . .You DO NOT know anything about death anything you say remains a baseless opinion that is not even yours but that of ancient people and their superstitions. . . .

Mazaje, aka 'last atheist standing ' on Nairaland, go and take a chill pill.

I am preparing to scream happy and blessed 2012, no time for atheist delusions next year

frosbel:


Mazaje, aka 'last atheist standing ' on Nairaland, go and take a chill pill.

I am preparing to scream happy and blessed 2012, no time for atheist delusions next year

Nothing do you. . . Happy new year. . . .

TAKE THE CREDIT
There are people who wish 2011 should never end. There are others who can’t wait to get it over. A few others really don’t care. Where do you belong? If you think you didn’t quite hit your marks this year, then maybe Theodore Roosevelt’s words are for you:
It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.
If you failed big time in 2011, it is because you dreamt big time. That is your glory. If you had big disappointments, it is because you had big expectations. That is your glory. If you lost all, it is because you gave all. In the game of life, the worst loser is better than the best spectator.
You are the man/woman in the arena; you are the one who took the big risk for the sake of your family, your organization, your community, your country. The glory, the credit belongs to you not to the critic. Not because you are perfect, not because you didn’t make mistakes, not because you have achieved but simply because you believed, and dared and risked your faith for a worthy cause.
So long 2011. Welcome 2012.
At the beginning of each year we allow ourselves to dream; what is a New Year without a new dream? Yes, sometimes the dreams are not entirely new, but we give them a makeover and that is fair. But life is not fair. The year ahead may hold tears and losses for some and victorious laughter and astounding breakthroughs for others. There is no way to predict which hand fate will deal. But we can decide how to react to whatever comes our way.
Like Abraham Lincoln said, the best way to predict the future is to create it. The next 365 days are like blank pages in our history books; it’s what we write in them that the world will read. It is what we sow in them that we will reap.
What are you going to write for your family? What are you going to sow for your customers? What are you predicting for yourself? If it’s going to be, it’s up to you.
Whatever it is just remember: "You are not here merely to make a living. You are here in order to enable the world to live more amply, with greater vision, with a finer spirit of hope and achievement. You are here to enrich the world, and you impoverish yourself if you forget that errand." - Woodrow Wilson.
May you become all you desire and dare to believe in the year ahead.
Happy New Year.

Thank you.

mazaje:

Nothing do you. . . Happy new year. . . .

Happy and Prosperous 2012 to you and all atheists on Nairaland , I really mean it.

don't forget to add tree-huggers like us. naturists and tree-worshipers

This article should be moved to 'hell fire bound souls' section.

God does exist, but he has given man free will and choice.

Man repeatedly chooses death instead of life and then turns round to blame God!

Nigerians are perfect example of man consistently making silly choices. If you've warned your child to not play on the motorway but he chooses to play on the motorway, whoose fault is it when he is struck by a trailer?

VoodooDoll:

God does exist, but he has given man free will and choice.

Man repeatedly chooses death instead of life and then turns round to blame God!

Nigerians are perfect example of man consistently making silly choices. If you've warned your child to not play on the motorway but he chooses to play on the motorway, whoose fault is it when he is struck by a trailer?

So what has innocent Christians who worship and devote thier entire lives to God and were innocently killed on Christmas Day got to do with a child playing om the motorway

I bliv all dt happened 4 was a reason,d God dt I serve never slps nor slumber n he will vindicate His pple

Lame reasoning!