Naira20:
If it's clear to you, you won't be arguing. Joy is an emotion, In a layman's language In God's presence,(when God is present) There is fullness of Joy,(You have pure Joy)

Peace is an emotion. Peace that passeth understanding (Peace that you can fully describe). Sorrow is an emotion
Godly sorrow(sorrow that comes from God's spirit convicting you) worketh repentance
the godly sorrow I mentioned is an emotion.

These things are basic but either because you refuse to study scriptures or you just don't know that's why you are talking the way you are.

While you were busy pulling up meanings of those words as far as man's world is concerned, you forgot to include the most important definition of all which is that of emotions.

Emotions are mental states brought on by neurophysiological changes, variously associated with thoughts, feelings, behavioral responses, and a degree of pleasure or displeasure. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotion

Notice that emotions are brought on and regulated by neurophysiological changes which clearly indicate that they are temporal in nature. Now, compare that which the explanation of joy in the Psalm 16 vs 11 where you are told that Joy is forever more. Clearly, as I have attempted several times now to get you to see, the joy that is promised by God is not the same as the emotional kind of joy which only lasts so long.

No matter the big nebulous word men use,when you understand a thing, you understand it.
Joy whether defined with French is an emotion.
Whether defined with Spanish, if it is Joy, it is an emotion.

Psychologists can attempt to confuse you
But like the Bible says

The heart knoweth his joy and a stranger can.not intermeddle with it


So stop wasting your time hiding behind one finger.

Joy is and will continue to be an emotion

Kobojunkie:
While you were busy pulling up meanings of those words as far as man's world is concerned, you forgot to include the most important definition of all which is that of emotions.
Notice that emotions are brought on and regulated by neurophysiological changes which clearly indicate that they are temporal in nature. Now, compare that which the explanation of joy in the Psalm 16 vs 11 where you are told that Joy is forever more. Clearly, as I have attempted several times now to get you to see, the joy that is promised by God is not the same as the emotional kind of joy which only lasts so long.

Naira20:
No matter the big nebulous word men use,when you understand a thing, you understand it.
Joy whether defined with French is an emotion. Whether defined with Spanish, if it is Joy, it is an emotion. Psychologists can attempt to confuse you. But like the Bible says. The heart knoweth his joy and a stranger can.not intermeddle with it. So stop wasting your time hiding behind one finger. Joy is and will continue to be an emotion

I don't know if you are intentionally feigning ignorance here or what.

In your own post, you pointed out that the Joy from God is of the pure kind — pure joy you labeled it— a kind which you obviously believe in no way compares to the emotional joy we humans are used to, this the same joy that scripture classifies as eternal in origin. Yet, you somehow want us to believe that pure Joy is also merely emotional meaning it is not eternal. A big mess of contradictions you have been throwing around here.

You quote definitions put forth by the same psychologists where it pleases you, but are quick to reject their explanation of emotions. Are you being serious right now?

Go and read your Bible and stop asking unrelated questions.

Those words shouldn't be strange to you if you read your Bible.

The Bible uses words deliberately to differentiate thing and show degree.
That your Joy may be full, abundant life etc.

When I said,
I hate ignoramuses forming scholars, you prolly would have called it an insult.

These are the little things that set us apart.Not copying texts from somewhere and coming to disturb NL

Kobojunkie:
I don't know if you are intentionally feigning ignorance here or what.

In your own post, you pointed out that the Joy from God is of the pure kind — pure joy you labeled it— a kind which you obviously believe in no way compares to the emotional joy we humans are used to, this the same joy that scripture classifies as eternal in origin. yet, you somehow want us to believe that it is also merely emotional.

You quote definitions put forth by the same psychologists where it pleases you, but are quick to reject their explanation of emotions. Are you being serious right now?

Naira20:
1. Go and read your Bible and stop asking unrelated questions.Those words shouldn't be strange to you if you read your Bible. The Bible uses words deliberately to differentiate thing and show degree. That your Joy may be full, abundant life etc.

2. When I said, I hate ignoramuses forming scholars, you prolly would have called it an insult.These are the little things that set us apart.Not copying texts from somewhere.

Are you being real?

1. Abundant life refers to the eternal life one receives when one becomes a believer in Jesus Christ, a life completely different from the life one once had before Jesus Christ. Joy, a joy of the eternal kind according to Psalm 16 vs 11 which you posted, a joy different from the joy we had in the world. Why do you reject that which scripture clearly informs you all so you can continue to assert that which is of the world as if of God?

2. I don't do scholars either so I don't know why you care to throw what is another red-herring into this conversation in yet another attempt to avoid directly tackling the questions posed to you.

Go and read the reason I gave again for those adjectives.

Back to the issue,
God has emotions, gave us emotions, communicates sometimes with us by emotions.

All these can be found in scriptures.

That's the crux of the matter NOT
all these irrelevant issues.

Why I stayed up till now is to show you that you don't know what you are saying by that assertion. It was only natural to introduce extraneous and unrelated issues to save face.

We deliberately leave you not because we can't drown you with Bible verses but because you are just interested is wasting people's time.

Summary,
Quoting scriptures isn't enough understanding them matters.


I need to have a little sleep now.

Kobojunkie:
Are you being real?

1. Abundant life refers to the eternal life one receives when one becomes a believer in Jesus Christ, a life completely different from the life one once had before Jesus Christ. Joy, a joy of the eternal kind according to Psalm 16 vs 11 which you posted, a joy different from the joy we had in the world. Why do you reject that which scripture clearly informs you all so you can continue to assert that which is of the world as if of God?

2. I don't do scholars either so I don't know why you care to throw what is another red-herring into this conversation in yet another attempt to avoid directly tackling the questions posed to you.

Kobojunkie:
I don't know if you are intentionally feigning ignorance here or what.

In your own post, you pointed out that the Joy from God is of the pure kind — pure joy you labeled it— a kind which you obviously believe in no way compares to the emotional joy we humans are used to, this the same joy that scripture classifies as eternal in origin. Yet, you somehow want us to believe that pure Joy is also merely emotional meaning it is not eternal. A big mess of contradictions you have been throwing around here.

You quote definitions put forth by the same psychologists where it pleases you, but are quick to reject their explanation of emotions. Are you being serious right now?

Na for argument your adrenaline dey rush like tap. Kobojunkie, onye mere gi hen? Dem use argument do you?

Simple experience I shared with the brethren, you don turn am to football viewing center. Hian! Na WA o.

Blessedmercy8:
Simple experience I shared with the brethren, you don turn am to football viewing center. Hian! Na WA o.

What you described, I have experienced numerous times back before I came to know God. It is no different from the experience of some of those who frequent nightclubs, strip clubs, and rock shows. It is all induced by brain chemicals and this explains why it does not last very long. Right after the show, you find yourselves back down from the high either seeking or looking forward to the next time when you can have such an experience again.

The joy, peace, and gladness God gives are not that brain-chemical-induced kind. So telling people that is a slap in the face of God.

Egbon Junkie,

Jehovah is the Greek spelling of the Hebrew word YHWH.

You see why I said you were right and wrong at the same time...?

Kobojunkie:
You are a liar... YHWH is the God of Israel and He is nothing like any of what you have described so far.

PlayerMeji:
1. Egbon Junkie, Jehovah is the Greek spelling of the Hebrew word YHWH.

2. You see why I said you were right and wrong at the same time...?

1. That is besides the point here which is that the God you described so far isn't YHWH, the God of Israel. YHWH is not Yes and No ---His Word is Everlasting, never changing. Neither is YHWH infinitesimal.

2. Stop trying to trip your own self. What you have described is nothing of YHWH but some other deity.

Kobojunkie:
What you described, I have experienced numerous times back before I came to know God. It is no different from the experience of some of those who frequent nightclubs, strip clubs, and rock shows. It is all induced by brain chemicals and this explains why it does not last very long. Right after the show, you find yourselves back down from the high either seeking or looking forward to the next time when you can have such an experience again.

The joy, peace, and gladness God gives are not that brain-chemical-induced kind. So telling people that is a slap in the face of God.

Abeg abeg abeg! Don't confuse my Wonderful experience with your highness when you were in the world Biko. I resemble igbo smoker to you? Please our experiences are not the same. Mine was a pure manifestation of the holy spirit which was evident in sportaneous speaking in tongues as Daddy Adeboye was moving with the mantle. Even though everywhere was silent, I was pouring out and vibrating with full force. I couldn't contain it even when I tried to suppress it.

Just stop arguing what you know nothing about.

Pastoshizzy:
Kobo is the most expressive loony on NL. I wouldn't touch him with a 6 foot pole. He's a covert atheist on a mission.

I don't think he/she is an atheist, more of a confused entity and trouble maker (I'm not limiting this to religious threads alone). Sometimes amusing because he/she's always on the other side of the divide, na ITK

sharpwriter:

I don't think he/she is an atheist, more of a confused entity and trouble maker (I'm not limiting this to religious threads alone). Sometimes amusing because he/she's always on the other side of the divide, na ITK

ITK! I see some possibility in that too. But Kobo's problem get depth o. I see someone seeking attention/applause...I pray he gets well.

Blessedmercy8:
I've been under a few other men of God but none stood out for me like pastor Adeboye. As in the power of God I've experienced from him, his humility and genuine walk and spiritual exercises just makes him outstanding among his fellow GOs.

Yesterdays holy ghost service was one of a kind. The power of God truly came down and I felt it. When he was doing the 360 turn, the power of God was just moving so heavily I felt I was going to throw up my spirit from within me. My spirit was literally trying to jump out of my body. Hmmm.... God is truly with Adeboye..

May God keep him for us. Amen.

I am blessed.

Amen in Jesus name

But Corona pass am �

Blessedmercy8:
I've been under a few other men of God but none stood out for me like pastor Adeboye. As in the power of God I've experienced from him, his humility and genuine walk and spiritual exercises just makes him outstanding among his fellow GOs.

Yesterdays holy ghost service was one of a kind. The power of God truly came down and I felt it. When he was doing the 360 turn, the power of God was just moving so heavily I felt I was going to throw up my spirit from within me. My spirit was literally trying to jump out of my body. Hmmm.... God is truly with Adeboye..

May God keep him for us. Amen.

I am blessed.

we know them
Church in the Morning, club in the night!

You sure it's not demon trying to jump out of your body?

Can a leopard change it spot?

What always comes out of the mouth of a NAIJA women are venomous

You will see those gorillas on Sunday praising praise and worship, pretending to be under the anointing as the said entity mentioned up there, then later in the night you will see them using multiple dicks to brush their mouths

Amen

AMENNNNNNN �

You see this life that we live in... only God almighty knows who truly worships him. I’m not a follower of any so called Man of God.

[qpegants are always misquoting cos I'm,ve never have had an encounter....fear God the man of God works with God uote author=Naira20 post=119065286]You don't understand my grouse with him.
He said,
God does not relate with His children via emotions. That the Op is deluded.
His aim was to make her feel her experience was entirely wrong.

As much as I know many could misunderstand their feelings, his assertion has no biblical support

Instead of him to see his fault, he's raising an entirely different issue.
We all know the standard to becoming believers but that's not the issue being thrashed.

When we study scriptures, we do so in order to "rightly divide it".

Any student of the Bible can see the emptiness in all he is writing.

I'm not interested in taking him.on logic because that not my aim.

If he wants to discuss scriptures, I can oblige him.I hate useless and unproductive argument.


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Pastorpreneur!

A real man, that has no spiritual capital or power? The kingdom of God is not by words alone, but by the demonstration of divine power!
Adeboye is a god of men and not man of God. Kiss the truth or hug the nearest transformer.

Blessedmercy8:
I've been under a few other men of God but none stood out for me like pastor Adeboye. As in the power of God I've experienced from him, his humility and genuine walk and spiritual exercises just makes him outstanding among his fellow GOs.

Yesterdays holy ghost service was one of a kind. The power of God truly came down and I felt it. When he was doing the 360 turn, the power of God was just moving so heavily I felt I was going to throw up my spirit from within me. My spirit was literally trying to jump out of my body. Hmmm.... God is truly with Adeboye..

May God keep him for us. Amen.

I am blessed.

Brother you're just hallucinating. I've experienced same countless times under various God of Men or Men of God - whichever. Just make yourself vulnerable enough to anyone and watch your spirit jump out of your body as you put it.

The church is now wordly
And the word churchy

So now are u fully born again and will never sin again?..

Blessedmercy8:


Abeg abeg abeg! Don't confuse my Wonderful experience with your highness when you were in the world Biko. I resemble igbo smoker to you? Please our experiences are not the same. Mine was a pure manifestation of the holy spirit which was evident in sportaneous speaking in tongues as Daddy Adeboye was moving with the mantle. Even though everywhere was silent, I was pouring out and vibrating with full force. I couldn't contain it even when I tried to suppress it.

Just stop arguing what you know nothing about.

Pastoshizzy:
Kobo is the most expressive loony on NL. I wouldn't touch him with a 6 foot pole. He's a covert atheist on a mission.

Covert?!! Lol... Nah!

Honestly, he is just irreligious like myself!

I just happen to be more tolerant of gullibility than he is!

I point it out to you that YOU ARE YET TO SEE/MEET A TRUE MAN OF GOD, because Adeboye is a compromised man of God

Blessedmercy8:
I've been under a few other men of God but none stood out for me like pastor Adeboye. As in the power of God I've experienced from him, his humility and genuine walk and spiritual exercises just makes him outstanding among his fellow GOs.

Yesterdays holy ghost service was one of a kind. The power of God truly came down and I felt it. When he was doing the 360 turn, the power of God was just moving so heavily I felt I was going to throw up my spirit from within me. My spirit was literally trying to jump out of my body. Hmmm.... God is truly with Adeboye..

May God keep him for us. Amen.

I am blessed.

Kobojunkie:
1. You just called your God a liar whose truth cannot be clearly deciphered and now you claim He is infinitesimal suggesting that your God is not not infact the God that is above all other gods(the word infinitesimal meanings extremely small -- approaching zero in value).

2. You and I most definitely do not know the same God since your God is nothing but confusion next to the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the one who is my God.

too ignorant.

God can be small and infinitely large.

That's why he is omnipresent.

He's small enough to see you, interact with you and live in you. He's also large enough to fill the universe. And he does this simultaneously.

He's small and in a deep ant hole in the ground. At the same time he stretches unlimitedly to fill the entire universe.

He's father to some, a terror to others. He's joy to some and fierce to others.

So yes, God is both yes and no. If not, how can he be omnipotent?

luluosas:
I point it out to you that YOU ARE YET TO SEE/MEET A TRUE MAN OF GOD, because Adeboye is a compromised man of God

...And how would you know??! Did the Holy Spirit reveal this to you clearly?!!

Be wary of condemning what you are not factual or well knowledgeable about!