jesusjnr:
So if I'm getting you correctly, the only thing you had ever seen or heard about me was just my thread title, before your subconscious(sixth sense) told you that I was quite responsible.

But despite that you had never even known anything else about me, through my comments or otherwise, you were yet able to believe and trust your subconscious voice to the extent that it could cause me to not only be the only Christian to earn your respect In this forum, but to also make you openly declare it?

YES

Michellekabod:

YES

How you dey today?

Wow your response is something that I never saw coming, i thought it was via the characteristics of my posts and threads that you arrived at that judgment oh.

That means that your subconscious voice has really been tested and tried by you on numerous occasions for it to have earned your trust to that extent?

jesusjnr:
How you dey today?

Wow your response is something that I never saw coming, i thought it was via the characteristics of my posts and threads that you arrived at that judgment oh.

That means that your subconscious voice has really been tested and tried by you on numerous occasions for it to have earned your trust to that extent?

Yes

Michellekabod:

Yes

Do you actually know what you're telling me?

You are telling me that you believe that God exists and that you trust His voice to the extent that you would believe whatever He says to you even though you have not verified it yet, only that you don't know that He's actually the one speaking to you that you call your subconscious voice.

Therefore I'm right that you are God sent, even though I didn't mean it literally.

So sis, you are not an atheist or agnostic for none of such ones would hinge so much belief on something that's not verifiable via the five senses, for the sixth sense or the voice of the subconscious which you have in you is the voice of God.

Do you agree?

jesusjnr:
Do you actually know what you're telling me?

You are telling me that you believe that God exists and that you trust His voice to the extent that you would believe whatever He says to you even though you have not verified it yet, only that you don't know that He's actually the one speaking to you that you call your subconscious voice.

Therefore I'm right that you are God sent, even though I didn't mean it literally.

So sis, you are not an atheist or agnostic for none of such ones would hinge so much belief on something that's not verifiable via the five senses, for the sixth sense or the voice of the subconscious which you have in you is the voice of God.

Do you agree?

I do not agree. This is from a purely religious perspective that you claim sixth-sense is the voice of God

Michellekabod:

I do not agree. This is from a purely religious perspective that you claim sixth-sense is the voice of God

See sis if you just don't want to call it that, fine, but from what you described to me is certainly God. Because who else would give you such an information about me, but someone that knows who I am.

Or did you know who I was before you got that info? If you didn't, then there's no way your own spirit would have reveal it to you.

Let me mention Lordreed, Hahn, budaatum you can add to that and tell them that there's something called the sixth-sense or any thing as the voice of the subconscious, that you hear, and hinge your beliefs on, and they would let you know that you're no more than someone that believes in God, because that's one of their accusations against those of us who believe He does exist.

If I told you that I expect what you told me was the reason for your statement, I would be lying because what you said was much better than anything I ever expected it to be, I mean when I saw such a comment, it was absolutely unexpected but very timely, but I was thinking maybe it was one of those here who had gone through my stuff, but you should be able to sense my astonishment when you said sixth-sense, subconscious, and I tried to be sure because it was extraordinary.

See sis I don't even have that extent of confidence or certainty in the voices I hear, because it has not proven itself very reliable, though it's not something i'm too bothered about because I know that when the time comes I would have the kind of trust you have in that voice.

So I already have something I could learn from you which you are already better at than myself despite that you don't even know who it is that's speaking through you.

Let me tell what to do, since the voice is that distinctive to you, ask the voice to tell you who is behind it, so that if the answer you get is what I'm telling you, then of course your doubt about God would be history, because of how much trust you have in it. But if it goes you way, then you can hold on tight to your belief that it's not God.

See I know who I am, so I know what it means for who I am to be revealed to you as an adult, because that rarely happens as it's usually little children that get this knowledge about me, who I consequently call my angels, as they are ones that God often sends to me to let me know He's with me.

I expect you should know a thing or two about little children, about that early stages of a child's development, and the bonding that goes on between the mum and child.

So imagine that for instance your beloved son, when he was between 1-2 years, that you have bonded with In that respect all of a sudden sees me, and rejects you as if you were a stranger or an enemy, until he has acknowledged me, how would you feel?

I have seen that look on the faces of several mothers who wonder who is this guy, or what sort of embarrassment is this?

Someone actually called me a witch because of that but I'm not a witch but the respect that I'm getting from that child is similar to the one I have in Heaven and beneath the Earth, or in the spirit world.

Of course adults would be adults, that's why Jesus said that such things have been hidden from the wise and the prudent but reveal unto babes by God.

So the reason it's been given to you, is because you are adult in age but a little child at heart, which is what I also am.

So stop fighting who you are or what you already have, for God wants you to know what He's about being His own, as many of those here have not been given such knowledge that you been entrusted with.

jesusjnr:
See sis if you just don't want to call it that, fine, but from what you described to me is certainly God. Because who else would give you such an information about me, but someone that knows who I am.

Or did you know who I was before you got that info? If you didn't, then there's no way your own spirit would have reveal it to you.

Let me mention Lordreed, Hahn, budaatum you can add to that and tell them that there's something called the sixth-sense or any thing as the voice of the subconscious, that you hear, and hinge your beliefs on, and they would let you know that you're no more than someone that believes in God, because that's one of their accusations against those of us who believe He does exist.

If I told you that I expect what you told me was the reason for your statement, I would be lying because what you said was much better than anything I ever expected it to be, I mean when I saw such a comment, it was absolutely unexpected but very timely, but I was thinking maybe it was one of those here who had gone through my stuff, but you should be able to sense my astonishment when you said sixth-sense, subconscious, and I tried to be sure because it was extraordinary.

See sis I don't even have that extent of confidence or certainty in the voices I hear, because it has not proven itself very reliable, though it's not something i'm too bothered about because I know that when the time comes I would have the kind of trust you have in that voice.

So I already have something I could learn from you which you are already better at than myself despite that you don't even know who it is that's speaking through you.

Let me tell what to do, since the voice is that distinctive to you, ask the voice to tell you who is behind it, so that if the answer you get is what I'm telling you, then of course your doubt about God would be history, because of how much trust you have in it. But if it goes you way, then you can hold on tight to your belief that it's not God.

See I know who I am, so I know what it means for who I am to be revealed to you as an adult, because that rarely happens as it's usually little children that get this knowledge about me, who I consequently call my angels, as they are ones that God often sends to me to let me know He's with me.

I expect you should know a thing or two about little children, about that early stages of a child's development, and the bonding that goes on between the mum and child.

So imagine that for instance your beloved son, when he was between 1-2 years, that you have bonded with In that respect all of a sudden sees me, and rejects you as if you were a stranger or an enemy, until he has acknowledged me, how would you feel?

I have seen that look on the faces of several mothers who wonder who is this guy, or what sort of embarrassment is this?

Someone actually called me a witch because of that but I'm not a witch but the respect that I'm getting from that child is similar to the one I have in Heaven and beneath the Earth, or in the spirit world.

Of course adults would be adults, that's why Jesus said that such things have been hidden from the wise and the prudent but reveal unto babes by God.

So the reason it's been given to you, is because you are adult in age but a little child at heart, which is what I also am.

So stop fighting who you are or what you already have, for God wants you to know what He's about being His own, as many of those here have not been given such knowledge that you been entrusted with.

Nice one....
I have seen life;the good and bad. I was once like you,"strong in the lord"till i realised everything was mirage.
The problem with you "churchies" is that everything good you believe comes from God. You shun anything self help. When good things occur you praise God,when bad things it must be our own fault,karma,or devil (it cant never be God)Our sunconscious mind is powerful, it musnt lean on holy spirit.

Michellekabod:

Nice one....
I have seen life;the good and bad. I was once like you,"strong in the lord"till i realised everything was mirage.
The problem with you "churchies" is that everything good you believe comes from God. You shun anything self help. When good things occur you praise God,when bad things it must be our own fault,karma,or devil (it cant never be God)Our sunconscious mind is powerful, it musnt lean on holy spirit.

Ok then maybe your subconscious voice has gotten it wrong for once, because i shouldn't have earned your respect purely on the basis of it. Or maybe it was someone else? No wahala sha, take care. However if those threads/posts on your user account are for real, then i still maintain that they are really cool.

jesusjnr:
Ok then maybe your subconscious voice has gotten it wrong for once, because i shouldn't have earned your respect purely on the basis of it. Or maybe it was someone else? No wahala sha, take care. However if those threads/posts on your user account are for real, then i still maintain that they are really cool.

I dont seem to understand you.
All i claim is that the subconscious mind is powerful enough to tell us things and not just holy spirit as you claim. What will you say about people that practise yoga and get results?or does that meditate?

@jesusjnr hw do u even knw that God is good? Hw did u arrive at dat conclusion?

MhizAngel99:
@jesusjnr hw do u even knw that God is good? Hw did u arrive at dat conclusion?

Don't even bother for you don't really want to know.

jesusjnr:
Don't even bother for you don't really want to know.

Oh no, i do want to know. Its one thing to claim dat a god exists. Its another thing to assume its gender and behavior. You see, unlike christians, i can be convinced by evidence to change my views

jesusjnr:
See sis if you just don't want to call it that, fine, but from what you described to me is certainly God. Because who else would give you such an information about me, but someone that knows who I am.

Or did you know who I was before you got that info? If you didn't, then there's no way your own spirit would have reveal it to you.

Let me mention Lordreed, Hahn, budaatum you can add to that and tell them that there's something called the sixth-sense or any thing as the voice of the subconscious, that you hear, and hinge your beliefs on, and they would let you know that you're no more than someone that believes in God, because that's one of their accusations against those of us who believe He does exist.

LoL! Dude its called intuition, there's nothing mystical about it. Our brains apparently bypass logical connections to form what are known as intuitive leaps. It comes from the same place as imagination and dreams. It is just processing all your experiences and forming associations you won't consciously form.

Its the reason a woman would think her husband is cheating because he altered an innocuous part of his routine.

It is not always right so it has no oracular power nor is there a god directing it.

LordReed:


LoL! Dude its called intuition, there's nothing mystical about it. Our brains apparently bypass logical connections to form what are known as intuitive leaps. It comes from the same place as imagination and dreams. It is just processing all your experiences and forming associations you won't consciously form.

Its the reason a woman would think her husband is cheating because he altered an innocuous part of his routine.

It is not always right so it has no oracular power nor is there a god directing it.

Am sorry, let me just get my proverbial glasses because i'm seeing something Lordreed but the comment is like that of a servantweed, wait a minute....

What? OK now I know that you are a fraud and mercenary atheist, really? now intuition alone can now be accepted as a basis to form a belief that something exists.

Self-contradictory, Confused, two-faced, double-standard, etc., are the words that come to mind when I think of what you've shown yourself to be by this post.

If all this shifting of goal posts is just to retain Michellekabod on your board, you can keep her oh, because she's not even keen to leave you guys.

Wonders! Wonders!! Wonders!!!

Someone that has been vehemently and passionately accusing others for using intuition as a basis of belief in the existence of God, and has been playing the science card or proof by five senses, has now suddenly turned to an intuition advocate, as a basis for belief or conviction.

Exposes you as someone that clearly has an ulterior motivated agenda against the belief in God's existence regardless of proof or not, because it's only when it comes to God, that intuition doesn't apply.

So keep at your anti-God's existence mission, because it has absolutely nothing to do with His existence or not, but something you are hiding from us.

You've surely lost all credibility where I am in this respect, for I've encountered some genuine atheists here but by this you've confirmed yourself a fake one.

No LoL because I'm dead serious about this.

Michellekabod:

I dont seem to understand you.
All i claim is that the subconscious mind is powerful enough to tell us things and not just holy spirit as you claim. What will you say about people that practise yoga and get results?or does that meditate?

See i'm here for serious business as you would already see, so I can't help you unless you are ready to help yourself.

Let your subconscious mind make the atheists and agnostics here who words you can believe earn your respect, as it appears to have already done, so that you can relate with your like minds.

Sorry that I've wasted your time by responding to your mention, but i can't take you where you're not willing to go, as you had already hinted by the reluctance in your initial responses.

So unless that happens i'm not going to waste my time trying to convince you otherwise, because without that it's well obvious that we're heading no where with this.

jesusjnr:
Ok then maybe your subconscious voice has gotten it wrong for once, because i shouldn't have earned your respect purely on the basis of it. Or maybe it was someone else? No wahala sha, take care. However if those threads/posts on your user account are for real, then i still maintain that they are really cool.

Am yet to get a response from you concerning my questions oh...dont take to your heels

MhizAngel99:


Oh no, i do want to know. Its one thing to claim dat a god exists. Its another thing to assume its gender and behavior. You see, unlike christians, i can be convinced by evidence to change my views

Ask you colleague Michellekabod to help with the evidence of her intuition, it could really be useful to you, and could make you believe in its existence as she does.

jesusjnr:
See i'm here for serious business as you would already see, so I can't help you unless you are ready to help yourself.

Let your subconscious mind make the atheists and agnostics here who words you can believe earn your respect, as it appears to have already done, so that you can relate with your like minds.

Sorry that I've wasted your time by responding to your mention, but i can't take you where you're not willing to go, as you had already hinted by the reluctance in your initial responses.

So unless that happens i'm not going to waste my time trying to convince you otherwise, because without that it's well obvious that we're heading no where with this.

That is the problem i face with you people.
There is always a need to save someone...there is always a bad person that needs help.
Did i tell you i needed help? My conversations with you were purely for us to share ideas. I learn from you,and you learn from me(i must confess i did learn alot). Must i the heathen (as you think of us) be on the same level as you for conversations to go on?and when otherwise you take to your heels?
You can save your time as requested....cheers

jesusjnr:
Ask you colleague Michellekabod to help with the evidence of her intuition, it could really be useful to you, and could make you believe in its existence as she does.

Hehehehehe....
What if i tell you that i believe in the holy spirit but also believe that intuition works and is most independent of the working of the holy spirit?

Michellekabod:

Hehehehehe....
What if i tell you that i believe in the holy spirit but also believe that intuition works and is most independent of the working of the holy spirit?

Why can't the Holy Spirit tell you what the cure for cancer is?

HellVictorinho:


Why can't the Holy Spirit tell you what the cure for cancer is?

There is a "what if" in the mention o

jesusjnr:
Am sorry, let me just get my proverbial glasses because i'm seeing something Lordreed but the comment is like that of a servantweed, wait a minute....

What? OK now I know that you are a fraud and mercenary atheist, really? now intuition alone can now be accepted as a basis to form a belief that something exists.

Self-contradictory, Confused, two-faced, double-standard, etc., are the words that come to mind when I think of what you've shown yourself to be by this post.

If all this shifting of goal posts is just to retain Michellekabod on your board, you can keep her oh, because she's not even keen to leave you guys.

Wonders! Wonders!! Wonders!!!

Someone that has been vehemently and passionately accusing others for using intuition as a basis of belief in the existence of God, and has been playing the science card or proof by five senses, has now suddenly turned to an intuition advocate, as a basis for belief or conviction.

Exposes you as someone that clearly has an ulterior motivated agenda against the belief in God's existence regardless of proof or not, because it's only when it comes to God, that intuition doesn't apply.

So keep at your anti-God's existence mission, because it has absolutely nothing to do with His existence or not, but something you are hiding from us.

You've surely lost all credibility where I am in this respect, for I've encountered some genuine atheists here but by this you've confirmed yourself a fake one.

No LoL because I'm dead serious about this.

And you are a fücking dummy. If you don't understand English why don't you go back to primary school so they can teach you how to comprehend simple passages.

If you weren't too stupid to understand what I wrote you'd have seen I specifically declared that it is not mystical but your dumbass eyes cannot see properly or understand anything because it doesn't validate your fairytale god idea.

Keep up your stupidity, you only ridicule yourself.

Michellekabod:

There is a "what if" in the mention o

So you are not sure?

jesusjnr:
Ask you colleague Michellekabod to help with the evidence of her intuition, it could really be useful to you, and could make you believe in its existence as she does.

So basically, you're saying you don't believe intuition exists. Not surprised honestly. You christians lack intuition and the ability to scrutinize, so i understand if you don't believe intuition exists.

MhizAngel99:


So basically, you're saying you don't believe intuition exists. Not surprised honestly. You christians lack intuition and the ability to scrutinize, so i understand if you don't believe intuition exists.

Not really, he thinks intuition is some sort mystical hocus pocus that is directed by the god. That anybody using intuition is inadvertently acknowledging the existence of the god. Such rubbish.

Michellekabod:
Tomorrow i will reply this, am sleepy

I trust you had a restful and good sleep last night and night before.

Michellekabod:
The bible stated that Jesus was amazed by her faith not studying or reasoning et al. The bible cant be wrong you know.

You are not right that the bible stated that Jesus was amazed by her faith.
Jesus, on record, confessed to be amazed by faith and the lack of it, just two times.
It was the gay man's faith, Jesus said He was amazed at, He never said He was amazed at the faith of the woman with the issue of blood, He just encouraged and cheered her up.

We know from the bible, Malachi to be exact, that, it was the studying of that Malachi scripture that propelled the woman with the issue of blood to reason within herself, that if she can touch the tassels of Jesus' robe, she, the woman with the issue of blood, believe she will receive her healing. Jesus confirms all these when He raised her spirit and restored her confidence with the following reassuring and kind words: "Daughter, take courage; your faith has made you well."

Michellekabod, I am glad that you at least, admit and acknowledge that the bible cant be wrong

Michellekabod:
Faith without work is dead according to James, i know that. He didnt say faith with reasoning or studying.

"¹⁶All scripture is given by inspiration of God,
and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
¹⁷That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works."
- 2 Timothy 3:16-17

1/ If God can say: "Come now, and let us reason together" that amounts to something, doesnt it?
2/ How does one go about to reason together with God then Michellekabod?
3/ Where does one, invited to come reason with God, head to, for this?
4/ How is, faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God, actualised Michellekabod?
5/ Why were the Bereans examining the Scriptures? What did their searching the scriptures and examining it, amount to or is called?
6/ What is the total number of the different types of faith biblically existing?
You do know, I am taking of faith, as a verb and not noun, dont you Michellekabod?

Michellekabod, studying and reasoning are precursors to the work, which without them and ultimately work, faith is dead.

MhizAngel99:


So basically, you're saying you don't believe intuition exists. Not surprised honestly. You christians lack intuition and the ability to scrutinize, so i understand if you don't believe intuition exists.

You are the one saying so, because I never said that.

For what I'm saying that for anyone who believes that intuition could exist, to yet in the same breath accuse someone else for hinging his belief on God existence on the same intuition, is tantamount to contradicting one's self and accusing someone else of a crime that she herself is committing.

Update*

I just saw that confirmed fraud atheist desperate attempt at hijacking your comments directed at me, as if I didn't have a mouth to respond to your comments myself, that's he responding on my behalf with "he thinks this... he thinks that".

Na who send am work? Original busy body, unengaged spokesman that I never gave any permission to respond on my behalf.

At least if he had any iota of class he could have shown courtesy by allowing me respond first, before he comes in, but he has exposed himself as someone of bereft of any.

Unknown to him, his blatant show of such extent desperation since my effort to engage Michellekabod, shows that her intuition could be very correct after all that i'm truly something special, and that he absolutely agrees with it.

If not then tell me why he's so wetting his pants scared of me that he's shamelessly trying all manner of tactics to spoil my efforts (first with Michellekabod and now you) if he actually thinks I'm so daft and not worthy of any sensible person's attention.

My second #confirmed fraud atheist

jesusjnr:
You are the one saying so, because I never said that.

For what I'm saying that for anyone who believes that intuition could exist, to yet in the same breath accuse someone else for hinging his belief on God existence on the same intuition, is tantamount to contradicting one's self and accusing someone else of a crime that she herself is committing.

Update*

I just saw that confirmed fraud atheist desperate attempt at hijacking your comments directed at me, as if I didn't have a mouth to respond to your comments myself, that's he responding on my behalf with "he thinks this... he thinks that".

Na who send am work? Original busy body, unengaged spokesman that I never gave any permission to respond on my behalf.

At least if he had any iota of class he could have shown courtesy by allowing me respond first, before he comes in, but he has exposed himself as someone of bereft of any.

Unknown to him, his blatant show of such extent desperation since my effort to engage Michellekabod, shows that her intuition could be very correct after all that i'm truly something special, and that he absolutely agrees with it.

If not then tell me why he's so wetting his pants scared of me that he's shamelessly trying all manner of tactics to spoil my efforts (first with Michellekabod and now you) if he actually thinks I'm so daft and not worthy of any sensible person's attention.

My second #confirmed fraud atheist

Lol pls. Whatsoever beef you're having with LordReed is not my business abeg. I only came here to debate

And my initial question was 4 the evidence for your god, which you are yet to provide by the way.

MhizAngel99:


Lol pls. Whatsoever beef you're having with LordReed is not my business abeg. I only came here to debate

And my initial question was 4 the evidence for your god, which you are yet to provide by the way.

You go first as I said and provide me with the evidence for your intuition.

If you do that, I promise I to return the favor.

With respect to that guy you should know better, except you think what he did was right, to answer for me, without my consent.

jesusjnr:
You are the one saying so, because I never said that.

For what I'm saying that for anyone who believes that intuition could exist, to yet in the same breath accuse someone else for hinging his belief on God existence on the same intuition, is tantamount to contradicting one's self and accusing someone else of a crime that she herself is committing.

Update*

I just saw that confirmed fraud atheist desperate attempt at hijacking your comments directed at me, as if I didn't have a mouth to respond to your comments myself, that's he responding on my behalf with "he thinks this... he thinks that".

Na who send am work? Original busy body, unengaged spokesman that I never gave any permission to respond on my behalf.

At least if he had any iota of class he could have shown courtesy by allowing me respond first, before he comes in, but he has exposed himself as someone of bereft of any.

Unknown to him, his blatant show of such extent desperation since my effort to engage Michellekabod, shows that her intuition could be very correct after all that i'm truly something special, and that he absolutely agrees with it.

If not then tell me why he's so wetting his pants scared of me that he's shamelessly trying all manner of tactics to spoil my efforts (first with Michellekabod and now you) if he actually thinks I'm so daft and not worthy of any sensible person's attention.

My second #confirmed fraud atheist

You are beyond stupid is my response to your cowardly post.

jesusjnr:
You are the one saying so, because I never said that.

For what I'm saying that for anyone who believes that intuition could exist, to yet in the same breath accuse someone else for hinging his belief on God existence on the same intuition, is tantamount to contradicting one's self and accusing someone else of a crime that she herself is committing.

Update*

I just saw that confirmed fraud atheist desperate attempt at hijacking your comments directed at me, as if I didn't have a mouth to respond to your comments myself, that's he responding on my behalf with "he thinks this... he thinks that".

Na who send am work? Original busy body, unengaged spokesman that I never gave any permission to respond on my behalf.

At least if he had any iota of class he could have shown courtesy by allowing me respond first, before he comes in, but he has exposed himself as someone of bereft of any.

Unknown to him, his blatant show of such extent desperation since my effort to engage Michellekabod, shows that her intuition could be very correct after all that i'm truly something special, and that he absolutely agrees with it.

If not then tell me why he's so wetting his pants scared of me that he's shamelessly trying all manner of tactics to spoil my efforts (first with Michellekabod and now you) if he actually thinks I'm so daft and not worthy of any sensible person's attention.

My second #confirmed fraud atheist

Take a chill pill...there is no beef here just a healthy arguement.no one is above learning. Terming someone fraud is out of it entirely...this is an open forum where people can comment or quote others.it is obvious you are agitated over something...No love lost bro, have a nice day

jesusjnr:
You go first as I said and provide me with the evidence for your intuition.

If you do that, I promise I to return the favor.

With respect to that guy you should know better, except you think what he did was right, to answer for me, without my consent.

I mean never mind the fact that you're actively dodging my question, you're also asking me about a subject i didn't even bring up in the first place. Lol

Asking 4 the evidence for intuition makes no sense. First of all, intuition operates from the part of our brain that
developed at a time when hidden dangers could jump out at us at any moment – such as a tiger hiding behind bushes. This part of our brain became highly skilled at sensing immediate danger as well as places of safety. However, because most of us now live a relatively safe, day-to-day existence, that part of our brain is not triggered very
often, and when it is, we are not familiar with it, so we tend to ignore its messages. However, we all still have that part of our brain. It wasn't bestowed unto us by an allpowerful skyfather, that's for sure.

As i stated earlier, your issues with LordReed are completely beyond my reach of concern. This is an open public thread, anybody can quote anyone he/she wants to quote. If LordReed is bothering you, am not the one who sent him. So, i am lost as to why you keep reporting him to me.