olabowale:

@Davidylan: Baba agba, 1000 to the power 1000 gbosa for you. The Muslims are expecting Jesus as he had left the earth; a grown man. Not as a baby. The second question, it is only known by the Sender of Jesus son Mary, his Lord Allah the Almighty. You, me, Jesus, no one knows. Did you see my entry about Antichrist? My question to you are you going to try to answer it? Don't forget that you are a Tiger and you ain't backing down for no body, no how.

Again will Jesus be touching down on the ground since the Christians will meet him in the clouds. I guess you will just go home to Christian heaven. I want to know this and again i have a classic for you.

You really dont want to know anything as you yourself have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA of how your own alleged Jesus/Issa would return to earth.
You claim that muslims are expecting Jesus as a "grown man" . . . before you ask us HOW the biblical Jesus Christ will return how about you tell us HOW your quranic Issa will appear . . .

will he jump down from heaven as a grown man?
How will muslims recognise him?

To your miserable attempt to answer my question as regards why we have an anti-christ and no anti-mohammed; once again you reveal the islamic penchant for dishonesty and al taqqiya! When you are caught with ur pants down you start crying "no one knows".
If indeed no one knows why there is an anti-christ then why does the very phrase exist in the first place? Why is that only allah knows most of what passes as islam today?

I am beginning to believe Olabs does the voice-overs for IR Baboon in "I M Weasel". No, seriously. . .dude makes little or absolutely no sense in them dumbass posts. . .

Fa Heaven's sake, this is the festive period, there should be a mass discount on them pills. . .Jeez

@davidylan, you are really a classic Christian. Duckin, weavin, boppin and doing a rope-a-dope . You refuse to answer any of my questions, yet you are quick to ask  a barrage of question! when are you going to quit. I wear my pants to by a tad below my belly button. And with a belt, always. Its you who is searching for a fallout shelter, since you can even answer jack. You don't even try. You are married now, because the energy is gone out of you. I already answer your questions with my entry to longman83 or Kokojunkie. You should read it. I know you are not ready for any reality check, yet. Answer my questions and see my classic coming straight at you.

@Wordsmith: You are right. How about you taking a crack at my question: If Jesus is met by the Christians in the cloud, will Jesus touch back on the earth, or you all remain in the cloud or just go to Christian without any substantial delays? I will give you all night to prepare yourself for my entries. i am going to slam you harder than davidylan.

olabowale:

@davidylan, you are really a classic Christian. Duckin, weavin, boppin and doing a rope-a-dope . You refuse to answer any of my questions, yet you are quick to ask  a barrage of question! when are you going to quit. I wear my pants to by a tad below my belly button. And with a belt, always. Its you who is searching for a fallout shelter, since you can even answer jack. You don't even try. You are married now, because the energy is gone out of you. I already answer your questions with my entry to longman83 or Kokojunkie. You should read it. I know you are not ready for any reality check, yet. Answer my questions and see my classic coming straight at you.

stuff and nonsense! We ask questions . . . rather than answer them you come up with your evasive laundry list of "questions" and start playing "answer me first". That kind of behaviour is reserved for deceitful weasels!

Were are the "answers" you claimed to have supplied? Can you please itemise them and stop playing smart by half?

As for fire going out . . . no it hasnt, i just no longer have the time wallowing in the mud with children of belial whose end is destruction.

@davidylan: Check entry # 147, on this topic, I have answered your concern. It is in the colurm 4.

olabowale:

@davidylan: Check entry # 147, on this topic, I have answered your concern. It is in the colurm 4.

If you noticed i already replied to all that bull you claim as an answer. WHERE IN THE QURAN is all the faabu you put up?

i found a very interesting article.


http://www.alislam.org/library/books/christianity_facts_to_fiction/chapter_1.html#pgfId-1006073

olabowale:

@davidylan, you are really a classic Christian. Duckin, weavin, boppin and doing a rope-a-dope . You refuse to answer any of my questions, yet you are quick to ask a barrage of question! when are you going to quit. I wear my pants to by a tad below my belly button. And with a belt, always. Its you who is searching for a fallout shelter, since you can even answer jack. You don't even try. You are married now, because the energy is gone out of you. I already answer your questions with my entry to longman83 or Kokojunkie. You should read it. I know you are not ready for any reality check, yet. Answer my questions and see my classic coming straight at you.
@Wordsmith: You are right. How about you taking a crack at my question: If Jesus is met by the Christians in the cloud, will Jesus touch back on the earth, or you all remain in the cloud or just go to Christian without any substantial delays? I will give you all night to prepare yourself for my entries. i am going to slam you harder than davidylan.

Is this not a case of frying pan calling kettle black?? LMAO!!!!, I am still waiting for you to post the changed verses @Olabowale, I can believe you of all people would actually have the audacity to accuse anyone else of doing that when that happens to be your MO, LMAO!!!! I am waiting for you to show me those verses by the way. Show me even one that has changed and I already posted the dictionary sites we can use to help verify your claim. Before you start bull crapping me about how those sites are not legit, they happen to be linked to Webster, American Dictionary and even Oxford dictionary , again, I am waiting,

@kobojunkie


You ddnt say anything to my earlier post. In case you did not see it, this is it again:

Hold your breath. What if I supply you early publications that were having some verses missing but inserted in recent versions yet they are claiming to have copied same from original manuscript?

Are you prepared for that?

@Davidylan: Dafidi! I wo omo yi o ni nkon se. If its Spring break time now, I probably will ask you to go chill out somewhere. Away from, the nudity, anyhow, while you are there. It just does not befit a Bible thumper. Yet it is the Nudity that pack them in in some Churches.

Davidylan, you answered nothing. All you do is bellow/roar like the TIGRE you are. Nothing behind it. Are you Elijah, the Messiah or the Prophet? They asked John the Baptist and then they asked Jesus. Please put their answers, side by side for me. And the rest of the Muslims on Nairaland. We wanna compare. Who would be incorrect, any one of the two noble prophets or the writer of that piece in the Bible?

@Kokojunkie: Ol boy, go sedon. Am chatting with my boy David. We go a long way. Its cold in Ohio and your drive way is probably a mile high. Go do some snow blowing. I answer your Longman83 masterpiece of a question and since then you can sleep. Why don't you compare the Bible of the Mother catholic with Baby Protestant, and tell us the Muslims, if the are the same by Books alone, before we go into Chapters, Verses and words. You are talking about dictionary, so define Comforter for us and while you are at it define corrector as well. Giving full meaning of them, I will give you a full blown Characteristic of Muhammad so that you will know that Muhammad is the Comforter. If you dispute right now, i will ask you to tell us, the Muslims, if the Comforter ever surfaced in the Christian community since Jesus is claimed to have said it in the Bible?

I will also give you a clear Picture of the Qur'an being the Corrector of what you have in your hand. Afterall, you said the Tourat is not the Bible, yet you have it in the Bible? Whats going on explain if you can, please?

Alhamdulillah, somebody is answering your issues, already. Take him on, Kokojunkie.

@Kokojunkie: I read Bible pre 1970. Post 1970, the freshmen were served different Bibles! I am not going to compare experiences here! However, you sound like an Igbo man, and if am wrong, since I do not know what I do not know, I apologise. But by and large, the Igbos are mainly Catholics. Whats your explanation to the difference of their catholic Bible versus your Bible if you are not a Catholic? Your answer will be interesting to know. Let me talk about another subject: the Anti-Christ versus why not Anti-Muhammad?

olabowale:

@Kokojunkie: Ol boy, go sedon. Am chatting with my boy David. We go a long way. Its cold in Ohio and your drive way is probably a mile high. Go do some snow blowing. I answer your Longman83 masterpiece of a question and since then you can sleep. Why don't you compare the Bible of the Mother catholic with Baby Protestant, and tell us the Muslims, if the are the same by Books alone, before we go into Chapters, Verses and words. You are talking about dictionary, so define Comforter for us and while you are at it define corrector as well. Giving full meaning of them, I will give you a full blown Characteristic of Muhammad so that you will know that Muhammad is the Comforter. If you dispute right now, i will ask you to tell us, the Muslims, if the Comforter ever surfaced in the Christian community since Jesus is claimed to have said it in the Bible?

I will also give you a clear Picture of the Qur'an being the Corrector of what you have in your hand. Afterall, you said the Tourat is not the Bible, yet you have it in the Bible? Whats going on explain if you can, please?
Alhamdulillah, somebody is answering your issues, already. Take him on, Kokojunkie.

QUESTION : WHAT VERSES IN THE BIBLE, ANY BIBLE HAS CHANGED SINCE 1970 When you claim you read it.

So Far,  NO Answer from you @Olabowale,  but you have made it your place to

1) Decide my ethnicity ( I have no idea how this applies to answering of this question)

2) You have Decided to make it your place to decide how ibos will worship ( again ,  No clue how this is relevant to this as the question is quite straight forward)

3) You have created a new Identity for me,  Longman83,  ( I have no clue how this new identity is supposed to answer my question)

4) You have  even tried to read my life and tell me I am 1 mile away from my home ( Heaven knows where you got that information from or even if that has anything to do with this )

5) You have basically decided someone will have to answer to Lies you told yourself ( I wonder if this person you want to assign me will also read your posts and tell me the meaning in them)

6) You are volunteering to teach me the quran, when I never asked for one or told you I need to read or study one ( I already studied the quran as a kid (attended an islam-oriented school as a kid), I have a software on my pc that is the quran, I have for years done my research on the book and decided it is just as relevant to me as the confucious texts are,  again,  what this has to do with the CLAIMS you made, I have no idea)


Again,  Olabowale,  Are you senile

Are you going to answer the question or keep playing this dodging game in the name of islam The Question still stands based on claims YOU ( not anyone else) but You made,  [/quote

@kobojunkie


QUESTION : WHAT VERSES IN THE BIBLE, ANY BIBLE HAS CHANGED SINCE 1970 When you claim you read it.

Firstly, can you tell me the difference between Almah and Bethulah and I will serve you the verses that have changed. Also do you still need missing verses in early publications but present in present editions?

Are you going to answer the question or keep playing this dodging game in the name of islam The Question still stands based on claims YOU ( not anyone else) but You made, [/quote

Lo ba tan o.Pepeiye fe pomo.

babs787:

@kobojunkie


QUESTION : WHAT VERSES IN THE BIBLE, ANY BIBLE HAS CHANGED SINCE 1970 When you claim you read it.

Firstly, can you tell me the difference between Almah and Bethulah and I will serve you the verses that have changed. Also do you still need missing verses in early publications but present in present editions?


Lo ba tan o.Pepeiye fe pomo.

Again @Babs if you can not answer me the question then stop posting replies to a question that is not directed at you. I am sure it is straight forward. Show me the verses that have changed. And the claim came from Olabowale. Writting me a line from a song is not the answer to my question. If you can not provide me information that I need then please go distract someone else. I prefer to stay focused on this cause I see a claim made and would like to understand what this claim has to do with reality. Is that understood?? Notice for the past how many posts, I have had to repeat self over and over. The same question, so many posts later and not one answer provide but so many distracting questions asked that have absolutely nothing to do with the original question.

@Kokojunkie: I do not know why you are so bent out of shape like this? Afterall, I am a senile, by your claim. I should not be making you this unsettled. I will come to you at my own time today. The reason that I am waiting is that a Christian read something out of his Bible to me last night, and it smacked a slight difference from what had been read in even other current Bibles. I will let you know later. Your ethnicity is not my problem. Your nationality is not mine concern. I do not care what part of the world your bloodline is from.  I started reading the Bible before 1970! You heard of the Apollo 11, and Apollo 13, with the swollen face disease? I was in high school then!

QUESTION : WHAT VERSES IN THE BIBLE, ANY BIBLE HAS CHANGED SINCE 1970 When you claim you read it.

So Far,  NO Answer from you @Olabowale,  but you have made it your place to

1) Decide my ethnicity ( I have no idea how this applies to answering of this question)

2) You have Decided to make it your place to decide how ibos will worship ( again ,  No clue how this is relevant to this as the question is quite straight forward)

3) You have created a new Identity for me,  Longman83,  ( I have no clue how this new identity is supposed to answer my question)

4) You have  even tried to read my life and tell me I am 1 mile away from my home ( Heaven knows where you got that information from or even if that has anything to do with this )

5) You have basically decided someone will have to answer to Lies you told yourself ( I wonder if this person you want to assign me will also read your posts and tell me the meaning in them)

6) You are volunteering to teach me the quran, when I never asked for one or told you I need to read or study one ( I already studied the quran as a kid (attended an islam-oriented school as a kid), I have a software on my pc that is the quran, I have for years done my research on the book and decided it is just as relevant to me as the confucious texts are,  again,  what this has to do with the CLAIMS you made, I have no idea)


Again,  Olabowale,  Are you senile

Are you going to answer the question or keep playing this dodging game in the name of islam The Question still stands based on claims YOU ( not anyone else) but You made,  [/quote

: (1) Mr. Kokojunkie, I do not decide your ethnicity. You told me when I responded to cgift on a thread in Yoruba and you putting your 2 bits in it. And I responded back to you in Yoruba. Then you said you do not understand Yoruba, so I eliminated Yoruba from your possible ethic identity pool. I had further apologised about  my assumption that you are an Ibo man. Ask Nwando, I love Ibo woman, too. So I might have honored you by saying that you are an Ibo man. But stop carrying on about it. it is irrelevant to your issue. Leave me with my Ibo women. That is not to say Yoruba women are number 2. Noooo. I have to make you relax so that I can give you the Nigerian hammer Punch!

Over whelming majority of the Igbos are Catholic Christians. Thats a fact and there are more books in the Catholic Bible that the Protestant Bible! I have just given you verses differentials as many as what is in one of them, that is missing in the other. Or you could look at it from another point of view if you want: As many verses as what the protestants eliminated from their Bible, when they copy it from the Catholic Bible! Let just say X number of verses.

There is a longman83 on this board, who said that he addressed his questions to me, while babs727 answered it. This longman83 claimed that babs727 had made it his issue and he should answer and you being the big Cheerleader that you are, copied part of it in bold/'highlighted,' with your addition of your wimpy trademark-LMAO! You should be ashamed now that you are whining since my answer to the questions. Davidylan should be doubly ashamed because I thought he was truly a tiger. I did not know that that is just his cartoon character!

I said snow has piled up up to mile high on your driveway/walkway. Common, man. Where is your sense of humor. You are so serious and sensitive. You're almost like a stiff. Relax and loosen up.

You are behaving as if you are having a hard time with reality. It reminded me of my very first time that I heard of Riba and its punishment from the Qur'an and the Hadith. Riba is interest, period. And my business was just that. I went into a shock. That was 1988. I abandoned the business immediately and I had to just not do anything for many years.

If you fail to see goodness in Qur'an, how do you think you can force me, to accept your Bible, with so many discrepancies inand no two Bible, of different versions are exactly the same? Me a man who is older than you, based on your parents giving you a Bible when you were young? Further my mother, the woman whose womb I matured, starting from just a fusion of egg and sperm, until she delivered me, suckled me and in her warmth I found protection, was a Christian for many years, until just few years ago. Yet in all those years, she used to prepare my meals in the month of Ramadan, without any complaint. I asked my Lord to continue to keep her for me and forgive her her sins. Amin. I was also married to a Christian woman and roomed with Baptist sect Pastor in the University. You wanna tell me about the Bible? You do not have a clue, Kokojunkie. I am not easily seduced by glitters. I am firm in resolve. Alhamdulillah, my Creator has bestowed His Mercy on me, in Islam.

When you make thorough observations of the Catholic Bible (Douay version)  which has 7 extra Books, side by side with its offshoot, the Protestant Bible, which has 66 Books and 7 Books less (King James Version?), then I will go to work with you. Until then run along.

olabowale:

@Kokojunkie: I do not know why you are so bent out of shape like this? Afterall, I am a senile, by your claim. I should not be making you this unsettled. I will come to you at my own time today. The reason that I am waiting is that a Christian read something out of his Bible to me last night, and it smacked a slight difference from what had been read in even other current Bibles. I will let you know later. Your ethnicity is not my problem. Your nationality is not mine concern. I do not care what part of the world your bloodline is from. I started reading the Bible before 1970! You heard of the Apollo 11, and Apollo 13, with the swollen face disease? I was in high school then! : (1) Mr. Kokojunkie, I do not decide your ethnicity. You told me when I responded to cgift on a thread in Yoruba and you putting your 2 bits in it. And I responded back to you in Yoruba. Then you said you do not understand Yoruba, so I eliminated Yoruba from your possible ethic identity pool. I had further apologised about my assumption that you are an Ibo man. Ask Nwando, I love Ibo woman, too. So I might have honored you by saying that you are an Ibo man. But stop carrying on about it. it is irrelevant to your issue. Leave me with my Ibo women. That is not to say Yoruba women are number 2. Noooo. I have to make you relax so that I can give you the Nigerian hammer Punch!
Over whelming majority of the Igbos are Catholic Christians. Thats a fact and there are more books in the Catholic Bible that the Protestant Bible! I have just given you verses differentials as many as what is in one of them, that is missing in the other. Or you could look at it from another point of view if you want: As many verses as what the protestants eliminated from their Bible, when they copy it from the Catholic Bible! Let just say X number of verses.

There is a longman83 on this board, who said that he addressed his questions to me, while babs727 answered it. This longman83 claimed that babs727 had made it his issue and he should answer and you being the big Cheerleader that you are, copied part of it in bold/'highlighted,' with your addition of your wimpy trademark-LMAO! You should be ashamed now that you are whining since my answer to the questions. Davidylan should be doubly ashamed because I thought he was truly a tiger. I did not know that that is just his cartoon character!

I said snow has piled up up to mile high on your driveway/walkway. Common, man. Where is your sense of humor. You are so serious and sensitive. You're almost like a stiff. Relax and loosen up.

You are behaving as if you are having a hard time with reality. It reminded me of my very first time that I heard of Riba and its punishment from the Qur'an and the Hadith. Riba is interest, period. And my business was just that. I went into a shock. That was 1988. I abandoned the business immediately and I had to just not do anything for many years.

If you fail to see goodness in Qur'an, how do you think you can force me, to accept your Bible, with so many discrepancies inand no two Bible, of different versions are exactly the same? Me a man who is older than you, based on your parents giving you a Bible when you were young? Further my mother, the woman whose womb I matured, starting from just a fusion of egg and sperm, until she delivered me, suckled me and in her warmth I found protection, was a Christian for many years, until just few years ago. Yet in all those years, she used to prepare my meals in the month of Ramadan, without any complaint. I asked my Lord to continue to keep her for me and forgive her her sins. Amin. I was also married to a Christian woman and roomed with Baptist sect Pastor in the University. You want to tell me about the Bible? You do not have a clue, Kokojunkie. I am not easily seduced by glitters. I am firm in resolve. Alhamdulillah, my Creator has bestowed His Mercy on me, in Islam.

When you make thorough observations of the Catholic Bible (Douay version) which has 7 extra Books, side by side with its offshoot, the Protestant Bible, which has 66 Books and 7 Books less (King James Version?), then I will go to work with you. Until then run along.

Sigh!!!!
No Where in my posts have I ever said I do not understand Yoruba nor am I not a Yoruba so again, please try to stay off my personal information and focus on answering the question.

1) I have made it clear over and over now that I am not selling you my religion or anything. I simply would like for you to once support the claim you made about reading different things in the Bible ( again whichever bible) pre 1970 and post 1970. Am I asking you for too much here?? why do you find this hard to do??

2) Once again you go on and on about ibos and what they believe according to you. Look, if you have issues with ibos that is fine by me but keep it to the cultures thread and focus on the debate at hand.

3) I did not in anyway ask you of the quran as I already explained I know enough of it to know it is not for me. You however made a claim and I asked you to read and you came back with another claim that you have and you have evidence. I would like to see this so called evidence you have .simple!!!

@kobojunkie

Again @Babs if you can not answer me the question then stop posting replies to a question that is not directed at you. I am sure it is straight forward. Show me the verses that have changed. And the claim came from Olabowale. Writting me a line from a song is not the answer to my question. If you can not provide me information that I need then please go distract someone else. I prefer to stay focused on this cause I see a claim made and would like to understand what this claim has to do with reality. Is that understood?? Notice for the past how many posts, I have had to repeat self over and over. The same question, so many posts later and not one answer provide but so many distracting questions asked that have absolutely nothing to do with the original question.

Firstly, can you please check mark 16 v 19, luke 24 v 15 and john 8 v 1-10 from RSV of 1952 and tell if those verses exist?


Secondly, let us look at luke 22 v 70

KJV : Then they said 'are you the son of God/ He said unto them,. 'you said that I am'

NIV: They all asked, 'are you the son of God, e said, 'YOU ARE RIGHT IN SAYING I AM.

LBV: They all shouted, 'then you claim you are the son of God? and he said 'yes I am'

Thirdly, Can you help me check Mark 16 v 9 - 20 from RSV of 1952 edition? You will never find it there but inseretd in recent editions.

There are two different and contradictory copies of Today's English Version . One contains some addtional books which makes it 81 while the other copy does not contain these additional books, can you tell me the reason behind these?

Let me stop here and wait for your response

Thanks

babs787:

@kobojunkie





Firstly, can you please check mark 16 v 19, luke 24 v 15 and john 8 v 1-10 from RSV of 1952 and tell if those verses exist?


Secondly, let us look at luke 22 v 70

KJV : Then they said 'are you the son of God/ He said unto them,. 'you said that I am'

NIV: They all asked, 'are you the son of God, e said, 'YOU ARE RIGHT IN SAYING I AM.

LBV: They all shouted, 'then you claim you are the son of God? and he said 'yes I am'

Thirdly, Can you help me check Mark 16 v 9 - 20 from RSV of 1952 edition? You will never find it there but inseretd in recent editions.

There are two different and contradictory copies of Today's English Version . One contains some addtional books which makes it 81 while the other copy does not contain these additional books, can you tell me the reason behind these?

Let me stop here and wait for your response

Thanks

Will that shed light into why "prophet" Mo married and defiled a 6 year old girl?

@Nwando


While I wait for your brother's response, let me quickly attend to your post.

Will that shed light into why "prophet" Mo married and defiled a 6 year old girl?

Your folks are not seeing you as you tried deflecting topic. I thought the issue has been laid to rest but yopu are still free to resurrect it again but let me tease you a little:

Do you have any proof be it anywhere that He defiled a 6 year old girl. I need your proof please. No game this time

babs787:

@Nwando


While I wait for your brother's response, let me quickly attend to your post.



Your folks are not seeing you as you tried deflecting topic. I thought the issue has been laid to rest but yopu are still free to resurrect it again but let me tease you a little:

Do you have any proof be it anywhere that He defiled a 6 year old girl. I need your proof please. No game this time

Find that hadith,in Aisha's own words where he married her at 6.That is your assignment for the new year.

@Nwando: Since you love the name Aisha so much, I bet that will be your name so that you can be spared of Hellfire as a destiny! Now relax: But tell me, was Aisha born preIslam of her father or her father had entered Islam before she was born? If she was born before her father entered Islam, how old was she? Do you really know who her father was? What was her father's relationship with Muhammad before Muhammad became a Prophet? What is the age difference between Aisha and Fatima, the daughter of Muhammad (as)?

I wanna nail you to the cross by your accurate answers! If you are in accurate, I will still have a crocked cross to nail you on, courtesy of your dubious websites. I know you are not making any researches, of the materials you enter you enter when it comes to Islam. You just enter materials from any website, as long as it is against Islam. Your hatred is making you act so terrible. You are very blind with rage and you have developed ADHD, because of it! This is my diagnosis of you. Giving the but am a Doctor excuse will not work here. In your Bible we see that it states Doctor heals thy self! You cannot heal yourself. You are not relaxed when you are seeking informations. Learn to relax and start from the get go, from true intention to find the truth, whereever it may lead you. You should seek it from proper Islamic webs. Kore so wun! lol.

babs787:

@kobojunkie





Firstly, can you please check mark 16 v 19, luke 24 v 15 and john 8 v 1-10 from RSV  of 1952 and tell if those verses exist?


Secondly, let us look at luke 22 v 70

KJV : Then they said 'are you the son of God/ He said unto them,. 'you said that I am'

NIV: They all asked, 'are you the son of God, e said, 'YOU ARE RIGHT IN SAYING I AM.

LBV: They all shouted, 'then you claim you are the son of God? and he said 'yes I am'

Thirdly, Can you help me check Mark 16 v 9 - 20 from RSV  of 1952 edition? You will never find it there but inseretd in recent editions.

There are two different and contradictory copies of Today's English Version . One contains some addtional books which makes it 81 while the other copy does not contain these additional books, can you tell me the reason behind these?

Let me stop here and wait for your response

Thanks

For your question, I will wait so I can confirm that I have the First Edition RSV BIble online so that we can both look and see what your claim is and how it deals with reality. FOr the second part of your post about verses in different versions of the bible that to me reference the same, I will not even debate that with you cause that is not what I intend to spend my time on. I looked up the site of the organization that published the in 1952 and then republished the second edition in 1970 something and no where does it list on the site that anything was removed. I did however find a link that has the whole RSV bible online and as soon as I confirm which version it is. I will personally go out to walmart to get the other so you can see if those verses exist or not. In the meantime, please read through this site's page http://www.ncccusa.org/newbtu/aboutrsv.html . The link happens to be straight to the organization that holds the copyright to the RSV and there it is explained to you what the difference between the versions and editions are and where you can find additional information in the new texts ( footnotes and more) on what was modified. Read through it and you will learn a lot. @Babs.

olabowale:

@Nwando: Since you love the name Aisha so much, I bet that will be your name so that you can be spared of Hellfire as a destiny! Now relax: But tell me, was Aisha born preIslam of her father or her father had entered Islam before she was born? If she was born before her father entered Islam, how old was she? Do you really know who her father was? What was her father's relationship with Muhammad before Muhammad became a Prophet? What is the age difference between Aisha and Fatima, the daughter of Muhammad (as)?

I want to nail you to the cross by your accurate answers! If you are in accurate, I will still have a crocked cross to nail you on, courtesy of your dubious websites. I know you are not making any researches, of the materials you enter you enter when it comes to Islam. You just enter materials from any website, as long as it is against Islam. Your hatred is making you act so terrible. You are very blind with rage and you have developed ADHD, because of it! This is my diagnosis of you. Giving the but am a Doctor excuse will not work here. In your Bible we see that it states Doctor heals thy self! You cannot heal yourself. You are not relaxed when you are seeking informations. Learn to relax and start from the get go, from true intention to find the truth, whereever it may lead you. You should seek it from proper Islamic webs. Kore so wun! lol.

all this long story to tell me what?

@Nwando: To tell you that you lie, when you speak about Islam. That you have no gut to at least speak the truth, if your soul cries for it. That your hatred of Islam, whatever the causation of it, which is more that the 911 event, since you are not really a true yank, has warped your natural sense of fairness when it comes to Islam. Want more, woman? You have a giant size problem. Start with your ADHD condition, first. lol.

And Nwando, you can even task yourself to answer the issue of Aisha that put in front of you! Yet you are so engrossed with her condition with the Prophet of Allah. You would have found out the truth, if you simply yuk it up and try to be honest within yourself. Aisha bint Abi Bakr Siddiq, was born before Muhammad received revelation. She was either 4 or 5 years old. The was the last child of her father. Calculate from there. Do the math, Nwando, and stop all your lies. I am sick and tired of your sick and tired lies, about my leaders in faith. The truth will be staring you wholesomely without any doubt.

nwando:

Will that shed light into why "prophet" Mo married and defiled a 6 year old girl?

nwando:

Find that hadith,in Aisha's own words where he married her at 6.That is your assignment for the new year.

For the dear Muslim onlookers. . . I just simply ask you one things here:

(a) when you find the Hadiths that confirms the issue here IN HER OWN WORDS,
would it be taken that Aisha was LYING?

(b) If she was NOT lying, what is the problem you Muslims have with her own words?

how many times do we have to make things clear to you Nwando?


If i am to collect a dollar every time you raise this same issue after been answered, i will be a millionaire by now.


i will try and get a link to the answered questions later to refreshen you up.

mdsocks:

how many times do we have to make things clear to you Nwando?


If i am to collect a dollar every time you raise this same issue after been answered, i will be a millionaire by now.


i will try and get a link to the answered questions later to refreshen you up.

It will be interesting to see if the link addresses the fresh concerns of whether Aisha must have been offering false statements in the hadiths (remember. . . in her own words)!

@kobokunkie


For your question, I will wait so I can confirm that I have the First Edition RSV BIble online so that we can both look and see what your claim is and how it deals with reality.

I will be looking forward to reading from you. But in the absence of that, kindly go through quotes from the link supplied and when you are through, prepare for missing verses in other versionbs but present in KJV.

The King James Version of the New Testament was based upon a Greek text that was marred by mistakes, containing the accumulated errors of fourteen centuries of manuscript copying. It was essentially the Greek text of the New Testament as edited by Beza, 1589, who closely followed that published by Erasmus, 1516-1535, which was based upon a few medieval manuscripts. The earliest and best of the eight manuscripts which Erasmus consulted was from the tenth century, and he made the least use of it because it differed most from the commonly received text; Beza had access to two manuscripts of great value, dating from the fifth and sixth centuries, but he made very little use of them because they differed from the text published by Erasmus.

Two passages, the longer ending of Mark (16.9-20) and the account of the woman caught in adultery (Jn 7.53-8.11), are restored to the text, separated from it by a blank space and accompanied by informative notes describing the various arrangements of the text in the ancient authorities. With new manuscript support, two passages, Lk 22.19b-20 and 24.51b, are restored to[b] the text, and one passage, Lk 22.43-44, is placed in the note, as is a phrase in Lk 12.39. Notes are added which indicate significant variations, additions, or omissions in the ancient authorities (Mt 9.34; Mk 3.16; 7.4; Lk 24.32,51, etc.).[/b] Among the new notes are those giving the equivalence of ancient coinage with the contemporary day's or year's wages of a laborer (Mt 18.24,28; 20.2; etc.). Some of the revisions clarify the meaning through rephrasing or reordering the text (see Mk 5.42; Lk 22.29-30; Jn 10.33; 1 Cor 3.9; 2 Cor 5.19; Heb 13.13). Even when the changes appear to be largely matters of English style, they have the purpose of presenting to the reader more adequately the meaning of the text (see Mt 10.8; 12.1; 15.29; 17.20; Lk 7.36; 11.17; 12.40; Jn 16.9; Rom 10.16; 1 Cor 12.24; 2 Cor 2.3; 3.5,6; etc.).

I read all those and what I am hoping is you actually read it as is and learn what it means as against what you would rather it say instead. Please look carefully at the full statements you have in bold to see what the message is and what it is not in those.

Alhamdulullah. Whatever the age of Seyida Aisha was when she became our mother, we are grateful for it. Through her, many hadith came to light. In this I have found great joy. Through Muhammad I have been able to know that I can remarry. To an older woman, a widow, a younger woman,etc and i do not have to marry just one, if I have all the acutremens to handle the situations.

Hadith when translated from its original Arabic form, we see that it has a mistranslations, sometimes. However, the soundness of any hadith depends on how many narrations and the people in the chain of each narrations. Finally there is no set of years that every human is to reach puberty. I remember those situations in the 60s and the early 70s, when supposedly young women get pregnant. We reckon with the birth age only, not considering the mental age or the fact that there may be a phenomenon in the equation of each of the person.

I asked Nwando to do a very simple task, she had since disappeared. Leaving immatured minds to go about in a blind rage. As if that will profit a disbeliever. All disbelievers will enter Hellfire, without any exception. Period!

I will be waiting for you Mrs. Nwando, to attempt to explain the conditions of Aisha. We know an authentic hadith, when we read it and put everything in their perspectives. We know the personality of Prophet Muhammad. This is why we have been asking the like of Nwando to step to the plate of truth. There could have been anybody in the chain of narrators who is considered to be a hypocrite or just plainly wrong in the statement made. But regardless, we are greatly educated by her youth relatively to the prophet maturity.

olabowale:

Alhamdulullah. Whatever the age of Seyida Aisha was when she became our mother, we are grateful for it.

we see once again how close catholicism and islam is. Both are based on the foundations of idolatry.

olabowale:

Through her, many hadith came to light. In this I have found great joy. Through Muhammad I have been able to know that I can remarry. To an older woman, a widow, a younger woman,etc

Even sango worshippers know that they can remarry if they lose their wives. People were remarrying long before mohammed's grandfather was born.
Abraham remarried Keturah after the death of Sarah so just what did mohammad show you?

olabowale:

and i do not have to marry just one, if I have all the acutremens to handle the situations.

Of course you are free to marry as many as you are given the sexual strength for. Bunch of sexual perverts.

olabowale:

Finally there is no set of years that every human is to reach puberty. I remember those situations in the 60s and the early 70s, when supposedly young women get pregnant. We reckon with the birth age only, not considering the mental age or the fact that there may be a phenomenon in the equation of each of the person.

Alhaji put on your thinking cap. Whether 5000yrs ago or in 50yrs time no 6yr old girl is physically and mentally capable of marriage!
Indeed there is no set age to reach puberty but SURELY no one reaches puberty at 6.

olabowale:

All disbelievers will enter Hellfire, without any exception. Period!

Ditto for all muslims. Period! Sura 19:71.

olabowale:

I will be waiting for you Mrs. Nwando

You hypocrites are forever waiting especially when there are questions begging for answers from you.

@Davidylan: Go back to medicine. You know Zero about religion. All my father's wives, are my mothers. All the wives of Muhammad (as), my leader are mothers to all muslims, inluding their own fathers and mothers. Duh! Like I said, go sit down and dissect something.