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Re: How To Become An Atheist by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:31pm On Sep 30, 2013
OLAADEGBU:

How to Become an Atheist:

If you are thinking of becoming an atheist, beware. The first step is easy, but it’s not so easy to walk the walk.

You will have to ignore design when you can see it everywhere: in the universe, the atoms, the birds and the bees, the clouds and trees, the seasons, the human body, fish, flowers, fruits, feet, and even fungus. And of course, there is the amazing-looking human eye. Everywhere you look and everywhere you can't look with the human eye you will see incredible design.

Now here's the really difficult part. You will need to believe that everything man-made: cars, computers, and candies were made by man, etc., but deny that everything in nature--cattle, camels, and cabbages, etc., were made at all. It came from nothing, with no Maker.

Once you have done this, crown yourself as being intelligent. Then you will need to find other atheists who believe as you do, and they will confirm to you that you are indeed intelligent. You will also need to believe that evolution is true and that you’re an ape and therefore you are not morally responsible because apes have no moral absolutes. Never forget to always give God a small "g," and learn believers' phrases such as "Evolution is a proven fact," and "I have no beliefs in any gods."

Do these things, and you will be able to call yourself a "new" atheist. How cool is that! Well, not really. You can't be a true atheist because you need absolute knowledge to say that there is no God. Besides, you intuitively know that He exists. Still, for sin-loving sinners the benefits of atheism are great in this life. But not the next. So you are really not an atheist, and to keep with your sinful lifestyle I guess you will just have to pretend to be one. Or you could simply check out the link below:

-->> www.EvolutionVsGod.com
Re: How To Become An Atheist by UyiIredia(m): 6:56pm On Sep 30, 2013
jayriginal:

It seems you used to argue against evolution sometime ago. Do you now take it as fact?

Yes I do.
Re: How To Become An Atheist by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:47am On Oct 01, 2013
Rejection of the Bible’s account of creation as given in the Book of Genesis could rightly be called "Genecide," because it eradicated man's purpose of existence and left a whole generation with no certainty as to its beginning. Consequently, theories and tales of our origin have crept like primeval slime from the minds of those who don't know God. This intellectual genocide has given the godless a temporary license to labour to the extremes of their imagination, giving birth to painful conjecture of human beginnings. They speak in speculation, the uncertain language of those who drift aimlessly across the endless sea of secular philosophy. The Scriptures, on the other hand, deal only with truth and certainty. They talk of fact, reality, and purpose for man’s existence. The darkness of the raging sea of futility retreats where the lighthouse of Genesis begins.

Watch Evolution Vs God FREE Here! - > http:///17Y69j5

Re: How To Become An Atheist by Nobody: 9:32am On Oct 02, 2013
@ola are you absolutely certain about your statement below?

The Scriptures, on the other hand, deal only with truth and certainty. They talk of fact, reality, and purpose for man’s existence. The darkness of the raging sea of futility retreats where the lighthouse of Genesis begins.
Re: How To Become An Atheist by jayriginal: 9:52am On Oct 02, 2013
Uyi Iredia:

Yes I do.

Does your acceptance of evolution come on the basis of "faith"? I know that is not a "proper" question to ask but some people take it that way.

What I basically mean is; do you now being a Deist, feel compelled to take evolution as a fact, in probably the same way that some people feel bound to reject evolution because they are theists?

Secondly and further, what changed your views on evolution? What do you think about your old arguments against it and what new arguments would you counter with in support?

Thanks.
Re: How To Become An Atheist by Nobody: 9:59am On Oct 02, 2013
Re: How To Become An Atheist by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:16am On Oct 02, 2013
voltron:

@ola are you absolutely certain about your statement below?

Yes, shoot! cool
Re: How To Become An Atheist by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:03pm On Oct 02, 2013
The same sunlight that melts wax also hardens clay. As God’s light shines on man, the sinner’s heart determines his response. One whose heart is tender will respond to God; one whose heart is bent on evil will harden his heart further against God and will remain in darkness. Sinners should note: After Pharaoh repeatedly hardened his heart against God (see Exodus 8:15,32), God then hardened Pharaoh’s heart (Exodus 10:27). Those who continually reject God will be given up to "uncleanness, vile affections, and a reprobate mind" (Romans 1:24,26,28).

www.needgod.com
Re: How To Become An Atheist by ooman(m): 4:42pm On Oct 02, 2013
^^guy, you be mumu,

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Re: How To Become An Atheist by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:26am On Oct 03, 2013
ooman:

^^guy, you be mumu,

Listening to atheists mock God is like watching a smart and rebellious child reaching out to touch 200 million volts of raw electricity.

watch Evolution Vs God FREE -> http:///19l86Ea

Re: How To Become An Atheist by ooman(m): 3:36pm On Oct 03, 2013
why would you put 200 million volt at the reach of your child in the first place.
Re: How To Become An Atheist by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:19pm On Oct 03, 2013
ooman:

why would you put 200 million volt at the reach of your child in the first place.

I don't have a rebellious child to start with.
Re: How To Become An Atheist by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:22pm On Oct 03, 2013
A young woman teacher with obvious liberal tendencies explains to her class of small children that she is an atheist. She asks her class if they are atheists too. Not really knowing what atheism is but wanting to be like their teacher, their hands shoot into the air. There is, however, one exception. A beautiful girl named Lucy has not gone along with the crowd. The teacher asks why she has decided to be different.

"Because I'm not an atheist."

"So,"

asks the teacher,

"what are you?"

"A Christian"

The teacher is a little perturbed now, her face slightly red. She asks Lucy why she thinks she is a Christian.

"Well, I was brought up knowing and loving Jesus. My mum is a Christian and, my dad is a Christian, I also accepted Christ as my personal Lord and Saviour and I know I'm a Christian."

The teacher is visibly angry now.

"That's no reason,"

she says loudly,

"What if your mum had been a mo-ron and, your dad had been a mo-ron. What would that make you?"

After a pause, and a smile.

"Then,"

says Lucy,

"that would make me an atheist." cool
Re: How To Become An Atheist by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:57pm On Oct 03, 2013
Aggressive atheist evangelism

Re: How To Become An Atheist by ooman(m): 5:08pm On Oct 03, 2013
All these stories can only deceive the already deceived. Atheists know what we want, so quit dulling yourself.

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Re: How To Become An Atheist by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:42pm On Oct 03, 2013
ooman:

All these stories can only deceive the already deceived. Atheists know what we want, so quit dulling yourself.

I know what you atheists want. I also know that you know in your heart of hearts that God exists it is just that you don't want to believe it and try suppress this truth with this theory of evolution and thereby keep up with your sinful lifestyle.
Re: How To Become An Atheist by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:49pm On Oct 03, 2013

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0u3-2CGOMQ

I wish any of you wannabe "atheists" are courageous enough to answer the questions your professors couldn't in this videoclip.
Re: How To Become An Atheist by Kay17: 8:35pm On Oct 03, 2013
OLAADEGBU:

I know what you atheists want. I also know that you know in your heart of hearts that God exists it is just that you don't want to believe it and try suppress this truth with this theory of evolution and thereby keep up with your sinful lifestyle.

How did you know what's inside the "hearts" of atheists?! Tell us how you managed that.

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Re: How To Become An Atheist by wiegraf: 9:46pm On Oct 03, 2013
OLAADEGBU:

I know what you atheists want. I also know that you know in your heart of hearts that God exists it is just that you don't want to believe it and try suppress this truth with this theory of evolution and thereby keep up with your sinful lifestyle.

You can see into our hearts? Are these visions as real as those you have about the afterlife? You think we just want to sin? Could that be because you imagine you'd be 'sinning' yourself if you had a chance? Please tell us what you'd indulge in were it not for your fear a psychopath my good sociopath.

On another note, you consistently fear monger for your sociopath god, obviously terrified of him and playing a sycophant to an omnipotent (note the foo.lishness there if you can).

So, this omnixx that exist only in your delusions, you fear monger because you are piss scared of him and would do anything, and I mean anything, eg sacrifice your son like a goat or make hitler's final solution look like a vacation (I'm looking at you hell, with your never ending furnace), just to please him and protect your behind. Is that correct?

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Re: How To Become An Atheist by Lordlexyy: 10:47pm On Oct 03, 2013
ooman: All these stories can only deceive the already deceived. Atheists know what we want, so quit dulling yourself.
Fool, keep consoling yourself with the evolution nonesense. Has it ever made sense to you? I guess is just an excuse to satisfied some craving. Pls forgive me for calling you a fool, such absurdity is unbelieveable. To claim what you know nothing about is laughable. I love it when athiests like you come up with the usual bull crap, you make me realise that you are just fulfilling scripture. Oh yea, we need some ignorant folks like to make the scripture complete and i tell you, God has found the perfect set of ppl. Like Ola said, He(GOD) has given your heart to do more evil, don't blame Him, you ask for it and so you have it double, just like pharoah. We know a time like this will come. When some persons will fight God and His message, but thank God for the scripture that sees ahead. We are not taken by surprise by your outburst, anger and frustration, just like the muslims, we just pity you. By the way, do you athiests in the house ever read my account of an encounter with an angel? I will encourage to search for it and read it with an open heart. Oh, i don't expect you to buy into it, because i already know characterised you bunch, just want to use that as a witness against you. Gess, i almost forgot. Can somebody be kind enough to explain to me the hope of an athiest in their miserable life? Thanks. Oh, what joy and refreshment i have in Christ.
Re: How To Become An Atheist by Kay17: 8:05am On Oct 04, 2013
^^^

And where did the free will fly to?! If God deliberately turns our minds against him, why should such sinners be held for acts not of their freewill?!

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Re: How To Become An Atheist by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:27pm On Oct 04, 2013
Kay 17: ^^^

And where did the free will fly to?! If God deliberately turns our minds against him, why should such sinners be held for acts not of their freewill?!

Didn't you get it? The sun that melts the wax is the same sun that hardens the clay, it is no fault of the sun it all depends on the substance exposed to the sun.

The same principle goes for hardness of heart, which comes on a person in a process of time as he rejects God's word. The same word of God that brings mercy and miracles to the obedient hearer, is the same word that brings misery and misfortune upon the contumacious hearer, just as Pharaoh got to find out. wink
Re: How To Become An Atheist by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:36pm On Oct 04, 2013
wiegraf:

You can see into our hearts? Are these visions as real as those you have about the afterlife? You think we just want to sin? Could that be because you imagine you'd be 'sinning' yourself if you had a chance? Please tell us what you'd indulge in were it not for your fear a psychopath my good sociopath.

On another note, you consistently fear monger for your sociopath god, obviously terrified of him and playing a sycophant to an omnipotent (note the foo.lishness there if you can).

So, this omnixx that exist only in your delusions, you fear monger because you are piss scared of him and would do anything, and I mean anything, eg sacrifice your son like a goat or make hitler's final solution look like a vacation (I'm looking at you hell, with your never ending furnace), just to please him and protect your behind. Is that correct?

Those visions backed up with the Scriptures were legitimate scare tactics to scare the hell out of you. You guys are so scared of hell that you now figure that by believing God doesn't exist your nightmares would disappear. Your case reminds me of another story.

A man was driving to work when a lorry drove through a stop sign, hit his car broadside, and knocked him out.  Passers-by pulled him from the wreck and revived him.  He began a terrific struggle and had to be tranquillised by the paramedics.

Later, when he came to and was calm, they asked him why he struggled so much.  He said:

"I remember the impact, then nothing.  I woke up on a concrete slab in front of a huge, flashing 'Shell' sign.  And somebody was standing in front of the S."  shocked shocked shocked
Re: How To Become An Atheist by wiegraf: 6:45pm On Oct 04, 2013
OLAADEGBU:

Those visions backed up with the Scriptures were legitimate scare tactics to scare the hell out of you. You guys are so scared of hell that you now figure that by believing God doesn't exist your nightmares would disappear. Your case reminds me of another story.

A man was driving to work when a lorry drove through a stop sign, hit his car broadside, and knocked him out.  Passers-by pulled him from the wreck and revived him.  He began a terrific struggle and had to be tranquillised by the paramedics.

Later, when he came to and was calm, they asked him why he struggled so much.  He said:

"I remember the impact, then nothing.  I woke up on a concrete slab in front of a huge, flashing 'Shell' sign.  And somebody was standing in front of the S."  shocked shocked shocked

Thank you. That will be all smiley
Re: How To Become An Atheist by Kay17: 8:36pm On Oct 04, 2013
OLAADEGBU:

Didn't you get it? The sun that melts the wax is the same sun that hardens the clay, it is no fault of the sun it all depends on the substance exposed to the sun.

The same principle goes for hardness of heart, which comes on a person in a process of time as he rejects God's word. The same word of God that brings mercy and miracles to the obedient hearer, is the same word that brings misery and misfortune upon the contumacious hearer, just as Pharaoh got to find out. wink

Your antecdote doesn't follow. "The Lord hardened his heart" has nothing to do with rewards of fortune or punishment of misery, rather it tampers with free will of the individual. The pharoah could have changed his mind, but God maliciously removes such an opportunity for the Pharoah.

Had the Pharoah had his freewill and his actions lead to the Red Sea debacle, then we can justify his misfortune, however God did what he wanted to do.
Re: How To Become An Atheist by Kay17: 8:45pm On Oct 04, 2013
OLAADEGBU:

Those visions backed up with the Scriptures were legitimate scare tactics to scare the hell out of you. You guys are so scared of hell that you now figure that by believing God doesn't exist your nightmares would disappear. Your case reminds me of another story.

A man was driving to work when a lorry drove through a stop sign, hit his car broadside, and knocked him out.  Passers-by pulled him from the wreck and revived him.  He began a terrific struggle and had to be tranquillised by the paramedics.

Later, when he came to and was calm, they asked him why he struggled so much.  He said:

"I remember the impact, then nothing.  I woke up on a concrete slab in front of a huge, flashing 'Shell' sign.  And somebody was standing in front of the S."  shocked shocked shocked

How do we know the Scriptures are true?!
Re: How To Become An Atheist by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:19am On Oct 05, 2013
Kay 17:

How did you know what's inside the "hearts" of atheists?! Tell us how you managed that.

The word of God. It says: "for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks"

The word further says in Romans 1:19-20 which says everyone knows God, because God has revealed Himself to us. It says that God's existence is so obvious that anyone who suppresses this truth is "without excuse."

This is how I know that you deny with your lips what you know in your heart, it's just that you don't want to believe that He exists because you enjoy your sinful lifestyle.
Re: How To Become An Atheist by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:22am On Oct 05, 2013
wiegraf:

Thank you. That will be all smiley

Was that because I mentioned the "H" word?
Re: How To Become An Atheist by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:56am On Oct 05, 2013
Kay 17:

Your antecdote doesn't follow. "The Lord hardened his heart" has nothing to do with rewards of fortune or punishment of misery, rather it tampers with free will of the individual. The pharoah could have changed his mind, but God maliciously removes such an opportunity for the Pharoah.

Had the Pharoah had his freewill and his actions lead to the Red Sea debacle, then we can justify his misfortune, however God did what he wanted to do.

The Omniscient God had foreknowledge of Pharaoh's reaction when He said "I will harden Pharaoh's heart...." And before you hastily jump to conclusion that God allowed Pharaoh's heart to be hardened, you should ask yourself of what substance was Pharaoh's heart made of? Pharaoh was full of pride and contempt for God's word and will just as you "atheists" wannabe" do. You should also compare Pharaoh with Moses and Aaron and see that these men of God believed, were persuaded and obedient to God which was in sharp contrast to that of Pharaoh.

Pharaoh wasn't predestined for destruction. Neither is anyone. Everybody is created a free moral agent who has a right of choice. Whatever we choose comes from our own individual volition.

To avoid the dire state of hardness of heart like that of Pharaoh's, you must tremble and obey God whenever He challenges you to do so because the human heart is constantly resistant to God's word and delights in sin. When you are obstinate God then permits your heart to become insensitive and hardened.

Therefore, don't ignore God's promptings to believe and obey Him and avoid rejecting God's word to suit your selfish sinful lifestyle. Let a change take place in your heart today as you repent and pray now before it gets too late like it was for Pharaoh.
Re: How To Become An Atheist by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:27am On Oct 05, 2013
Kay 17:

How do we know the Scriptures are true?!

The Holy Scriptures (the Bible) is just not an ordinary book for a couple of reasons. It is inspired by God through holy men of God who wrote it down.

We also know that the Scriptures are true because we can subject it to tests. Genesis chapters 1-11 gives us an account of historical events about the ultimate cause of the universe and how life did originate - questions you atheists haven't got a clue about. Through the application of science we can safely confirm that God's account of creation is true. For instance, God informs us in the account of Genesis chapter 1 that fish, birds plants, animals and every living organism were created after their own kind, And that is exactly what we observe, dogs only produce dogs, cats only produce cats etc. We can also confirm many other aspects of the Scripture's history in other areas of science such as astronomy and geology.

We can rely on the Scriptural truth concerning our Lord Jesus Christ. Consider for instance how many prophecies about Him were made 100's of years before He was incarnated. For these and other reasons we can safely confirm the history in the holy Scriptures, we can have faith in all that the Scriptures have to say.

However, the main reason we can trust the Scriptures is because it is from the Omnipotent, Omniscient and Omnipresent God, which is different from every other book on planet earth. Thus we can know that the Scriptures are true as we use it as our presupposition for our living, learning and actions.
Re: How To Become An Atheist by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:59am On Oct 05, 2013
Teaching Universe
October 5, 2013

"The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge" (Psalm 19:1-2).

This familiar psalm, extolling God’s creation (vv. 1-6) and God’s Word (vv. 7-14), begins with a beautiful summary of the testimony of the physical universe. “The heavens” and the “firmament” are synonymous (Genesis 1:8 ), both being equivalent to our modern scientific concept of space. The “glory of God” refers to His infinite power, or energy, and “his handywork” implies the infinite variety and complexity of physical systems, or matter, in the universe. This interaction of matter and energy occurs everywhere throughout space, but also has to operate and be understood in the context of time, “day unto day” and “night unto night.”

The entire marvelous complex of space/time/matter/energy is continually “uttering speech” and “showing knowledge,” teaching men and women of all times and places that there is a great Creator God who made it all. “The invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen” (Romans 1:20).

The boundless space, the endless time, the infinite energies, and the innumerable complexities of the matter of the universe all unite in irrefutable testimony to the God of creation. The most fundamental principle of science, as well as the most universal rule of human experience, is the Law of Cause and Effect, stating that no effect can transcend its cause. Thus, the great cause of the universe must be infinite, eternal, omnipotent, and omniscient. And since we as living, feeling persons are able to think about all this, that cause must also be a living, feeling, thinking person. This is the great lesson engraved on the textbook of the universe for all to read and learn. The whole creation, indeed, declares the glory of God. HMM

For more . . . .

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Re: How To Become An Atheist by Kay17: 11:30am On Oct 05, 2013
OLAADEGBU:

The Omniscient God had foreknowledge of Pharaoh's reaction when He said "I will harden Pharaoh's heart...." And before you hastily jump to conclusion that God allowed Pharaoh's heart to be hardened, you should ask yourself of what substance was Pharaoh's heart made of? Pharaoh was full of pride and contempt for God's word and will just as you "atheists" wannabe" do. You should also compare Pharaoh with Moses and Aaron and see that these men of God believed, were persuaded and obedient to God which was in sharp contrast to that of Pharaoh.

Pharaoh wasn't predestined for destruction. Neither is anyone. Everybody is created a free moral agent who has a right of choice. Whatever we choose comes from our own individual volition.

To avoid the dire state of hardness of heart like that of Pharaoh's, you must tremble and obey God whenever He challenges you to do so because the human heart is constantly resistant to God's word and delights in sin. When you are obstinate God then permits your heart to become insensitive and hardened.

Therefore, don't ignore God's promptings to believe and obey Him and avoid rejecting God's word to suit your selfish sinful lifestyle. Let a change take place in your heart today as you repent and pray now before it gets too late like it was for Pharaoh.

If the Omniscient God had knowledge of the Pharoah's mind, why did he bother hardening it, if it was hardened?!

In another breath, you said the Pharoah allowed God to harden his heart, and yet you insisting before that God didn't harden the pharoah's heart! Which are you saying?!

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