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Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by JackBizzle: 8:37am On Nov 12, 2014
italo:
Where do you get the law that only man made constructs have meaning?

You seem to think anything that flies off you confused mind is a universal law, dont you?

grin grin grin


"Meaning" itself is useless without humans.


Only man gives meaning to things.
But one can not truly give meaning to what he doesnt understand.

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Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by zyzxx(m): 8:39am On Nov 12, 2014
JackBizzle:



The wisest man that ended up being a fool with 700 wives and a foolish son (Rehoboam) who destroyed his kingdom? grin grin grin


And yes, I read the bible. cool
I don't think dat d cateria for been wise, so free him abeg cheesy
Btw he is d wisest man
LB if u want meaning to ur life, go back to christ , he as pay for ur sin on d cross of calvary for u and me to live.

Halleluya.
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by JackBizzle: 8:42am On Nov 12, 2014
italo:


You didn't create life, so how can you be sure it has no purpose?

Who defines "good life?" You?


Now, you are asking the right questions.

Life might have a purpose but it is clearly beyond us. If we knew the full account of our creation story, then we could say.


As for a good life....it is left for society or the individual to decide. However, logic and reasoning are unbiased tools we can use to aid in judging what a good life is. And usually, it is what many people use.

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Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by JackBizzle: 8:43am On Nov 12, 2014
zyzxx:
I don't think dat d cateria for been wise, so free him abeg cheesy
Btw he is d wisest man
LB if u want meaning to ur life, go back to christ , he as pay for ur sin on d cross of calvary for u and me to live.

Halleluya.

Do you think you can ever convert to being a muslim? Be honest?

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Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by italo: 8:43am On Nov 12, 2014
JackBizzle:




Science was invented by the catholic church? WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING??!!! shocked

I also never said that all scientists are atheists.


I was just telling that guy that the things he uses in life are made by people who dont care about his religionn- the point being that there is life outside religion!


I know that you're just a confused wannabe baby Atheist who thinks that ranting on the internet against religion will validate his confusion and make him look intelligent.

Guess what, you only look dumb and scatter-brained.

Science was invented, sponsored and nourished by the Catholic Church.

You can start by reading http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_science to educate that refuse dump you call a mind.

And that is only a start...from a secular source.
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by zyzxx(m): 8:45am On Nov 12, 2014
JackBizzle:


Do you think you can ever convert to being a muslim? Be honest?
if u want my sincere answer no /Yes...
If dey can offer me d truth. because I knw d truth.

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Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by JackBizzle: 8:47am On Nov 12, 2014
zyzxx:
if u want my sincere answer no /Yes...
If dey can offer me d truth. because I knw d truth.


Just like you will find it hard to convert to islam.....it would be hard for me to convert to christianity.


Just like you, I know the "truth" and my "truth" doesnt conform with christianity

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Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by JackBizzle: 8:48am On Nov 12, 2014
italo:
I know that you're just a confused wannabe baby Atheist who thinks that ranting on the internet against religion will validate his confusion and make him look intelligent.

Guess what, you only look dumb and scatter-brained.

Science was invented, sponsored and nourished by the Catholic Church.

You can start by reading http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_science to educate that refuse dump you call a mind.

And that is only a start...from a secular source.



smiley smiley smiley smiley

I always knew that you were a hardcore catholic......


.......I never realised that you are crusader-level crazy

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Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by italo: 8:52am On Nov 12, 2014
JackBizzle:
Life is purposeless
JackBizzle:



Now, you are asking the right questions.

Life might have a purpose but it is clearly beyond us. If we knew the full account of our creation story, then we could say.


As for a good life....it is left for society or the individual to decide. However, logic and reasoning are unbiased tools we can use to aid in judging what a good life is. And usually, it is what many people use.

#ConfusionOfAtheism
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by italo: 8:54am On Nov 12, 2014
JackBizzle:



smiley smiley smiley smiley

I always knew that you were a hardcore catholic......


.......I never realised that you are crusader-level crazy
Forget ad hominem.

Read http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_science and educate your mind refuse dump.
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by italo: 9:00am On Nov 12, 2014
JackBizzle:


grin grin grin


"Meaning" itself is useless without humans.


Only man gives meaning to things.
But one can not truly give meaning to what he doesnt understand.

The above is your confused fabrication.

You just said "life might have a purpose."

You're very confused.
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by zyzxx(m): 9:15am On Nov 12, 2014
JackBizzle:



Just like you will find it hard to convert to islam.....it would be hard for me to convert to christianity.


Just like you, I know the "truth" and my "truth" doesnt conform with christianity
I did'nt mention it hard for me to convert to muslim, I just state my condition to say Yes.

Mind u d kingdom of God is not of talk but of power.
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by JackBizzle: 10:32am On Nov 12, 2014
italo:




#ConfusionOfAtheism



lmao....you have become desperate after I decimated your points!! wow!!


So you are now selectively quoting/quote-mining me?


These two comments are not contradictory;


1) Life might have a purpose but it is clearly beyond us. If we knew the full account of our creation story, then we could say.

2) Life is purposeless



^^^
You are the one confused
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by JackBizzle: 10:34am On Nov 12, 2014
italo:


The above is your confused fabrication.

You just said "life might have a purpose."

You're very confused.


Just as God might exist.

But I'm still an atheist.


Learn how grammar and logic work

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Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by JackBizzle: 10:34am On Nov 12, 2014
zyzxx:
I did'nt mention it hard for me to convert to muslim, I just state my condition to say Yes.

Mind u d kingdom of God is not of talk but of power.


When you become a muslim, I will become a christian
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by Hiswordxray(m): 10:55am On Nov 12, 2014
JackBizzle:



Just like you will find it hard to convert to islam.....it would be hard for me to convert to christianity.


Just like you, I know the "truth" and my "truth" doesnt conform with christianity

Is that what you think, my dear friend. Then why are you trying to avoid me. Are you afraid you might just get converted to Christianity. But well, my aim is not to convert you to Christianity but to help you find God, for he is the answer to your heartache.

Forget about Christianity! It had become nothing but a religion, but let focus on that cry and hunger in your heart which only Christ could satisfied. Stop trying to distract yourself with silly argument.

Let talk solution, let talk Christ.
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by italo: 11:57am On Nov 12, 2014
JackBizzle:




lmao....you have become desperate after I decimated your points!! wow!!


So you are now selectively quoting/quote-mining me?


These two comments are not contradictory;


1) Life might have a purpose but it is clearly beyond us. If we knew the full account of our creation story, then we could say.

2) Life is purposeless



^^^
You are the one confused

They are contradictory!

When you say "life is purposeless," you eliminate any chance of your second statement: "life might have a purpose."

What you have said is:

1. Life is definitely purposeless.

2. Life might not be purposeless.

#ConfusionOfAtheism
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by italo: 12:03pm On Nov 12, 2014
JackBizzle:



Just as God might exist.

But I'm still an atheist.


Learn how grammar and logic work
If you claim that God might exist, then assert that God doesn't exist...

That's not an issue of grammar and logic.

That is an issue of a #ConfusedAtheist...a poorly educated mind refuse dump.

Have you read the link I gave you and are too arrogantly ignorant or ashamed to tell us your findings?
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by Hiswordxray(m): 1:05pm On Nov 12, 2014
JackBizzle:




I know you can hear God speaking in your heart right now.
He is trying to reach out to you, are you going to turn your back on him?

All he what is to pour out his love for you. It pains him to see you pass by him and he is unable to express is love for you.
Are you going to keep denying yourself of the chance to know God's love?

What if hell is real?
What if you have a chance to accept God's love and escape hell?
You have nothing to loss.
All you have to do is answer this call. Come now to God for he loves you.
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by JackBizzle: 1:52pm On Nov 12, 2014
italo:
If you claim that God might exist, then assert that God doesn't exist...

That's not an issue of grammar and logic.

That is an issue of a #ConfusedAtheist...a poorly educated mind refuse dump.

Have you read the link I gave you and are too arrogantly ignorant or ashamed to tell us your findings?




lmao!!


I guess you are not familiar with the agnostic position or even the skeptic position.

It is possible that a toothfairy lives in the bush near your house but does that mean that one should believe it exists?


Saying something might exist doesnt neccesarily mean that that you are saying that it exists

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Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by JackBizzle: 1:54pm On Nov 12, 2014
italo:


They are contradictory!

When you say "life is purposeless," you eliminate any chance of your second statement: "life might have a purpose."

What you have said is:

1. Life is definitely purposeless.

2. Life might not be purposeless.

#ConfusionOfAtheism



See the desperate tool.


1) Life might have a purpose but it is clearly beyond us. If we knew the full account of our creation story, then we could say.

2) Life is purposeless




^^^
look at my number 1 and 2....then tell me if it matches the nonsense 1 and 2 you wwrote

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Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by italo: 2:02pm On Nov 12, 2014
JackBizzle:




lmao!!


I guess you are not familiar with the agnostic position or even the skeptic position.

It is possible that a toothfairy lives in the bush near your house but does that mean that one should believe it exists?


Saying something might exist doesnt neccesarily mean that that you are saying that it exists

The agnostic position does not assert that God doesn't exist.

The skeptic does not assert that God doesn't exist.

For you to assert that "God doesn't exist," you are ruling out and possibility that "God might exist."

You're contradicting yourself with both statements in bold...

Because you are poorly educated.

You dont even know what you are or believe.

Go sort yourself out first.
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by Oduduwaboy(m): 2:04pm On Nov 12, 2014
Nice write-up. Life has no purpose . Case in point, Myles Munroe spent his life talking about purpose but died purposelessly with his wife and daughter in a plane-crash just 2 days ago!

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Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by italo: 2:11pm On Nov 12, 2014
JackBizzle:




See the desperate tool.


1) Life might have a purpose but it is clearly beyond us. If we knew the full account of our creation story, then we could say.

2) Life is purposeless




^^^
look at my number 1 and 2....then tell me if it matches the nonsense 1 and 2 you wwrote

Your number 1) Life might have a purpose but it is clearly beyond us. If we knew the full account of our creation story, then we could say.

=

My number 2. Life might not be purposeless.

And

Your number 2) Life is purposeless

=

My number 1. Life is definitely purposeless.

#dullard #ConfusedAtheistAgnosticSkeptic
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by Hiswordxray(m): 2:26pm On Nov 12, 2014
JackBizzle:


Here you go again, ignoring the voice in your heart and indulging yourself in silly argument.
Is this argument more important to you than your so?
Is this more important than the fact that you are ignoring God's love and heading towards hell?
Make you decision now.
If you what to do it secretly you can email me.
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by Kay17: 2:30pm On Nov 12, 2014
italo:


How convenient to argue against your own view of the Christian faith.

It makes you look intelligent and broad minded.

It guarantees that you win the argument.

Clap clap.

I was being honest. Christianity goes far below nihilism by asserting that man's very existence is not just purposeless but entirely useless by sin hence Jesus comes to Earth for the only purpose of redemption. Look whose talking.

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Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by Kay17: 2:32pm On Nov 12, 2014
Hiswordxray:


Here you go again, ignoring the voice in your heart and indulging yourself in silly argument.
Is this argument more important to you than your so?
Is this more important than the fact that you are ignoring God's love and heading towards hell?
Make you decision now.
If you what to do it secretly you can email me.

What has hell got to do with the relevance of man's existence?
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by JackBizzle: 3:22pm On Nov 12, 2014
italo:


The agnostic position does not assert that God doesn't exist.

The skeptic does not assert that God doesn't exist.

For you to assert that "God doesn't exist," you are ruling out and possibility that "God might exist."

You're contradicting yourself with both statements in bold...

Because you are poorly educated.

You dont even know what you are or believe.

Go sort yourself out first.


You are confusing yourself.


The agnostic-atheist position is that there is no evidence for God and hence no reason to believe in God. The agnostic-atheist still holds a stance that there could be a God but until evidence comes for it, he will not believe in God.

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Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by Hiswordxray(m): 3:22pm On Nov 12, 2014
Kay17:


What has hell got to do with the relevance of man's existence?

I know you are scared of hell.
The thought of ending up in hell torment you.

But you don't need to be scared when you can simply come to Jesus and he would show you the way.
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by JackBizzle: 3:24pm On Nov 12, 2014
italo:


Your number 1) Life might have a purpose but it is clearly beyond us. If we knew the full account of our creation story, then we could say.

=

My number 2. Life might not be purposeless.

And

Your number 2) Life is purposeless

=

My number 1. Life is definitely purposeless.

#dullard #ConfusedAtheistAgnosticSkeptic

Let's show the world how confused you are


Here is my statement in bold;
1) Life might have a purpose but it is clearly beyond us. If we knew the full account of our creation story, then we could say.


If a purpose for life is beyond us, how then is life not purposeless? Use your brain!!!
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by Hiswordxray(m): 3:25pm On Nov 12, 2014
JackBizzle:



You are confusing yourself.


The agnostic-atheist position is that there is no evidence for God and hence no reason to believe in God. The agnostic-atheist still holds a stance that there could be a God but until evidence comes for it, he will not believe in God.

You are not an atheist, that is just a pretend.
You are called by God.
So stop this atheist claim and stop deceiving yourself.
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by Kay17: 4:21pm On Nov 12, 2014
Hiswordxray:


I know you are scared of hell.
The thought of ending up in hell torment you.

But you don't need to be scared when you can simply come to Jesus and he would show you the way.

I don't feel guilt neither i do fear Hell

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