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Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by JackBizzle: 4:28pm On Nov 12, 2014 |
Hiswordxray: |
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by zyzxx(m): 4:32pm On Nov 12, 2014 |
JackBizzle:no. U will av to be a muslim den... because dat means I've found life in islam and u must choose life too. |
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by Hiswordxray(m): 5:27pm On Nov 12, 2014 |
Kay17: Yes that word "guilty " What did you do that make you feel guilty? No matter what it might be God will forgive you. You can't run away from God because of guilt. The Bible says "For if our heart condemns us, God is greater than our heart, and knows all things." (1John 3:20) |
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by Hiswordxray(m): 5:40pm On Nov 12, 2014 |
JackBizzle: Have you chosen the path of destruction over God's love? Then you are doom!!! You are condemned to eternal torment! God will deal with you for rejecting his love! God will deal will you for counting his sacrifice as useless! This is the reason why God create hell; it is not for those who makes mistakes but for those who deliberately choose destruction. Well you've made your choice and you have no reason to blame God, for God is justified. |
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by Kay17: 5:55pm On Nov 12, 2014 |
Hiswordxray: i understand your authentic urge to evangelize, but lets stick to the concern of this thread or its fallout. What is the purpose of human existence in Christianity other than going to Heaven? 1 Like |
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by Hiswordxray(m): 6:50pm On Nov 12, 2014 |
Kay17: The concern of this trend doesn't matter. My urge to evangelize doesn't matter. What matters is you!!! You are suffering from guilt. But why suffer when he died to set you free from guilty consciousness. God said "Come now, and let us reason together,” Says the LORD, “Though your sins are like scarlet, They shall be as white as snow; Though they are red like crimson, They shall be as wool." (Isa 1:18). |
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by italo: 7:25pm On Nov 12, 2014 |
JackBizzle:So anything beyond you is non-existent? "Life is purposeless" and "life might have a purpose" are contradictory. #ConfusedAtheist |
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by italo: 7:36pm On Nov 12, 2014 |
JackBizzle: After saying "there could be a God," can the Agnostic-Atheist also say "There cannot be a God" at the same time? Can one say "the could be a purpose for life" and "there cannot be a purpose for life" at the same time? #ConfusedAtheist What is in your skull? |
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by Hiswordxray(m): 8:25pm On Nov 12, 2014 |
italo: Italo leave them. They refuse to admit that they are confuse and they need answers. All atheist or agnostic are suffering from lack of Jesus. They have this heartache they can't heal and they feel like like is purposeless and meaningless. This is just a reflection of their emptiness and desperation which only God could satisfy. |
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by Nobody: 10:00pm On Nov 12, 2014 |
Hiswordxray:It is simply preposterous to make conclusions as this. Several humans have found fulfilment in varying endeavours. Religion fills that certain "vacuum" for some,it doesn't for others. 2 Likes |
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by Nobody: 10:36pm On Nov 12, 2014 |
When we compare human lifetime with geologic time,we get to see how truly fleeting and brief our lives are. A geologist describes it this way: Consider the distance between Los Angeles and NY,approximately 4500km i.e from the US West coast to East coast.If this 4500km represents the 4.5 billion year age of the earth, then the lifetime of a human being who lived for 100 years would be 0.1m i.e far less than the width of a sidewalk. Again, if a motion picture moves at a rate of 32 frames per sec,and 1 frame represents 100 years,then a frame will only last on the screen for 1/32 sec. This means the lifetime of a human being who lived for 100 years will only occur as a flash on the screen. A very humbling revelation indeed. 2 Likes |
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by Hiswordxray(m): 10:37pm On Nov 12, 2014 |
Beretta92: Is that what they told you or is that what you what to believe. My dear friend, nothing could fill that vacuum except Christ. Do not be deceived. |
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by Kay17: 12:02am On Nov 13, 2014 |
Hiswordxray: Since what matters is me, then explain the purpose of humanity qua my purpose. yes, I'd assume there is sin for the sake of convenience, but how relevant is the problem of sin to human existence? 1 Like |
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by Hiswordxray(m): 12:15am On Nov 13, 2014 |
Kay17: The reason why you feel life has no purpose and is meaningless is because you are lacking Christ. This is not a problem of humanity, this is a problem of you heart. Again, is it sin that made you run away from God? Are you finding it difficult to stop committing sin? There is a way out. |
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by Kay17: 1:14am On Nov 13, 2014 |
Hiswordxray: This man, do you have a problem with basic comprehension?! I didn't tell you my life was meaningless, rather I asked what is the purpose of a Christian's life |
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by Hiswordxray(m): 1:35am On Nov 13, 2014 |
Kay17: Oh sorry I misunderstood you. The purpose of a Christian life is to participate in God eternal plan which he had from the foundation of the word. A plan which was once hidden in a mystery but have now be reveal to us through the spirit (1Cor 2:6-12). |
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by Kay17: 1:56am On Nov 13, 2014 |
Hiswordxray: What is it? ? ? |
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by Hiswordxray(m): 2:09am On Nov 13, 2014 |
Kay17: God building a home. Jesus finding a wife which is of his kind. A wife that is him in another form. A wife that will be his glory. An everlasting romance. An outlet of an all consuming love. Emancipation of a frustrated passion. To answer the call of a God who is hopelessly in love. What purpose could be better than this? |
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by Kay17: 4:34am On Nov 13, 2014 |
Hiswordxray: So the purpose of a Christian is to build house, find wife (in a woman's case, I'd assume husband), look for romance and emancipate a frustrated passion. But these items you mentioned have to be a means to some end, they have to be for happiness at least. They cannot be ends in themselves. Having a romance is not for the mere purpose of having a romance, people naturally expect happiness to result from such romance, don't they? In a few words of protest, these do not seem like a purpose. |
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by Hiswordxray(m): 5:00am On Nov 13, 2014 |
Kay17: Yes you have found what you're looking for; another misunderstanding, another excuse to tell your desperate heart that Christ is not they way. But you no that a lie. You know you didn't understand what I wrote. But you are happy you've found another excuse. How long would you continue like this? How long would you continue to fight that voice in your heart? How long would you continue to find excuses when you know it is not working. Your heart still continue to cry out for God. Did you think you can find something else to fill that emptiness? Well stop deceiving yourself. |
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by Oduduwaboy(m): 9:21am On Nov 13, 2014 |
Hiswordxray:I.D.I.O.T.I.C post! Eternal torment? does that make sense to you? 1 Like |
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by Hiswordxray(m): 9:30am On Nov 13, 2014 |
Oduduwaboy: Are you scared of hell? Does it pains you that you're going to miss heaven? You don't need to be scared simply ask for the way. |
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by Nobody: 2:11pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Hiswordxray:How parochial, those words. |
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by Kay17: 2:29am On Nov 14, 2014 |
Hiswordxray: Kay17: Hiswordxray: I will have to assume you concede to me about the nihilism of Christianity and its shallow meaning. Next, I will address your 'psychoanalytical' exercise on me. It is virtually impossible for you to read my mind and extract the above information. The best you can do is try to generalize your condition. Meaning that you equate your emotions and condition for mine. The 'inner voice in your head' is assumed to be in everybody's head. And you assume your vulnerable nature is assumed to be the nature of everybody else. And that your only saviour -- Jesus is everybody's saviour. The only person indulging in self deception is sadly you. 2 Likes |
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by JackBizzle: 12:52pm On Dec 11, 2014 |
I'm happy that this thread has touched a lot of people 2 Likes |
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by Hiswordxray(m): 4:50pm On Dec 11, 2014 |
JackBizzle:But has it touch you? |
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by davien(m): 5:38pm On Dec 11, 2014 |
Wonderful thread...a lot of self refective thoughts were made... 2 Likes |
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by Nobody: 5:31pm On Jan 07, 2015 |
JackBizzle: Sir,I'm not an atheist....but your thread and logical arguments have got to be among the best I have seen since joining this forum.I've always heard that name LogicBoy03/JackBizzle on this forum,associated with intelligence.I can now see why. Im really impressed,sir. Great Thread. #Respect |
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by JackBizzle: 2:11pm On Jan 27, 2016 |
sonOfLucifer: Wow. I was rereading this thread and I just realised that I didn't see this comment when I was actively participating on this thread. Nice trolling job. |
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by texanomaly(f): 3:17pm On Jan 27, 2016 |
sonOfLucifer: *rolls eyes* sKeeter you are so full of it! |
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by urahara(m): 7:58pm On Jan 27, 2016 |
UyiIredia:Muslim Hindus Buddhist atheist etc do all the above |
Re: Let Us Be Honest- Life Is Both Meaningless And Purposeless by incogni2o: 10:18pm On Jan 27, 2016 |
Firstly, OP, I honestly connect with all that you have said, I am a Christian(I believe in the death of Christ) and a Scientist(I observe, reason, ask questions about Nature, Appreciate Natural Logic........and science seem to explain Nature- the known nature), Rather than asking myself What's Life purpose is(cos I have no shadow of doubt about Life's Purpose and meaning) I ask why I was born into the christian religion cos it answers most of my inner-self questions (Purpose, meaning and others) Truthfully looking from the perspectives you've laid down... I will say, YES, Life has no meaning, Is there meaning in the fact that the universe(multiverse or any other meaningful way we may name) has no edge(end) or rather that the edge keeps expanding(This means even science itself hasn't explained all), What is even a meaningfully meaningful meaning of meaning of Life(This means Plain Logic define Truth). Looking at Solomon(the wisest man that ever lived according to the Bible, He also asked inner-self questions), He explored Nature(Gardens),Culture(With the Many Wives the married from different Places), Pleasure(Love, Sex) and different kinds of Religion(Not only Judaism, maybe at least 100 based on the number of Foreign wives he had). He also concluded that all is Vanity(Meaninglessness). As Humans, I believe we have a soul which transcends Life, The soul feels real Joy, Peace and Happiness, Which we believe to be Part of Life's meaning. It is then with this notion that what gives meaning to Life must transcend Life. It is when this is understood that meaning starts to open up to one. I believe in everlasting Life, which all Humans long for and I haven't seen any scientific explanation that says this is the way to have everlasting Life. Only Religion answers the Question, and I think its reasonable when one says we live to prepare for an afterlife(everlasting) and its depends on the way we live here that determines how our afterlife would be. We all long for a World without conflict and absolute peace which means a would without conflict or quarrels, and a perfect form of government. The Bible says Sin brought about the fall of man(everyone knows we are better than this, we have our good part inside of us which means if everyone lives based only on the good inside, The world would be a peaceful Place). The Bible tells us that world is coming, the one we currently live in is Broken. Salvation means we as broken beings sincerely realize it and ask God to save us from our brokenness and also make us fit for the Kingdom to come whilst forgiving us of the the ways we've used the Bad part of US. Christs blood has being shed for that Forgiveness. And his Nature itself is Life's Meaning. PS. The Bible when interpreted well has many illustrations of the Life of others and the mark they left........Its meaning....Sincerely, seek God from a contrite Heart and he would be found of you....And You'll then realize, God is Meaning...else Meaninglessness I pray that God would open up your Heart to find Truth, cos even these Words I right can be proved Logically wrong. Takia and God Bless JackBizzle: |
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