amosexy:

E ku ile oooo gbogbo eyin omo osun
Okun oo gbogbo eyin Ekiti


@ remii

It's better for my kids to be ugly but bring home gud grades than for them to be fine and keep changing schools evry team. Dem no dey take fine gud ppl scholarship.

TheSeeker:

K'abo jaree , . . . . ba wo ni omo mi to sure?[color=#000099]Where's the picture?I did talk about Osogbo men. Ondo men are romantic and promiscuous too. Ogbomoso, I really don't know about them. Iwo men are pure lovers. the others, I have no idea. I'm not from OSUN either but I have strong ties.[/color]

Omo Osun ni mi. Osogbo oroki asala. Are you from the Living Spring

tpia.:

come oh, no be you post this




So where are you from exactly?

TheSeeker:

All I can say is stay tuned and you'll understand later on. That soup talk is fallacy, a pure one.

tpia.:

ok!

but abeg dont turn into one of those I-was-born-and-raised-in-Yorubaland-and-my-family-owns-the-whole-Yoruba-but-I-hate-them Yorubas-with-a-passion people.

Those ones are too irritating for words.

TheSeeker:

Some people say that Yorubas are dirty, is that correct? Tell us more about your area from the best of your knowledge.

amosexy:

E ku ile oooo gbogbo eyin omo osun
Okun oo gbogbo eyin Ekiti


@ remii

It's better for my kids to be ugly but bring home  gud grades than for them to be fine and keep changing schools evry team. Dem no dey take fine give ppl scholarship.

@ seeker

Is it tru dat der is dis part in Osun dat their ppl alwaz give birth to twins becos of a particular soup(Obe-orunla) dey eat ?
Plz how come the Ejigbo i Osun speaks French ?

Remii:

It is Igbo Ora in Ibarapa Oyo State that holds Guinness record for twins in almost every family, they link it to yam eating. You can google for it.

Ejigbo people are in Abidjan,  Ivory Coast not Benin Republic, Ivory Coast speak french as official language.

You dont have to marry gorrila sha, some ugly people have ugly brain too. Some fine faces have fine brain also, abi Fola Adeola of GT Bank no smart and fine.

TheSeeker:

Some people say that Yorubas are dirty, is that correct? Tell us more about your area from the best of your knowledge.

tpia.:


My grandma wasnt dirty, though I dont know what the dirt police experienced in Yorubaland.

But going by the photos one sees on Nairaland and the rest of the internet, which all curiously [/b]show trash heaps and open gutters as a unique phenomenon found [b]only in western Nigeria , Yorubaland to be precise (especially Lagos), I'm guessing the slums where people grew up in, are what they're referring to when they call Yorubas dirty.

Now of course there are others who go a step further and insist Yorubas eat out of the toilet- for that one, once again, I dont know what people experienced that gave them that impression, or who they move with.

I didnt know dirtiness was seen as an exclusively Yoruba trait until I joined Nairaland. Either I was sheltered while growing up or some interest groups have personal problems with Yorubas hence their unabashed profiling of the tribe.


when I was in Nigeria, regardless where I lived, the slum areas of town were generally seen as dirty. But towns rarely consisted of slums only.

However, I dont know what others saw oh. Some will say Yoruba women dont wash their underwear- maybe the ones they dated never did. I was never in their personal problems so I wouldnt know.

Besides, Nigerians overseas also call themselves dirty so let them all face each other.

Remii:

Ibkaye, are you from Osun too?

TheSeeker:

Nice analysis right there. I guess most people that say Yorubas are dirty are most definitely referring to the slums, where dirtiness also abounds. I was on this adventure sometime ago, I was visiting villages and sad to say, what I saw in some of these villages somewhat buttresses the assertion some people make that Yorubas are dirty; although I have to say the dirtiness sting is overrated. They seem to purport it out of proportion hence, making it a little surreal. I visited some villages in the South East and there was a sharp contrast to what I saw in the South West.

In the former, you'll see spike-and-clean swept compounds, beautiful trees and everything is carefully set in order. The same can't be said of the villages I visited in the latter. I personally witnessed some sliding their kids' stool closed in a "potty" under their beds. Some put "potty" in their house to pee in and throw that away in the morning probably because they didn't want to go out at night. Although, the same can't be said about the Yorubas living in larger cities where exposure has changed everything. But can we even bring the blown-out-of-proportion Yoruba dirtiness to comparison with Hausas? Nah, that'd be nasty.

tpia.:



That’s your opinion.

However, remember others have also been to the southeast and may not have the same impression as you. If I say my own now another civil war will start here. But right now I have no interest in comparing the levels of dirtiness from around Nigeria.

Africa in general does not have widespread flushing toilet facilities and the majority have to depend on pit latrines or the bush, just like in India. Pit latrines were themselves introduced by the whites in colonial times. And not only in Africa and India, but Asia as well.

Chamber pots are also a necessity in places where its considered unsafe to relieve yourself outside during the “witching” hours.  Europeans also used chamber pots before toilets were invented.

So are people supposed to shit on themselves during those hours or isn’t it a logical thing to use a chamber pot which you then empty in the morning. Or the mothers you saw- did they not empty those pots during the day?


Handwashing is important, and unless you want to say Yorubas are also the only Nigerian tribe that slacks in handwashing, then people are expected to adapt to whatever situation they find themselves in. True, its good to have a flushing toilet in every home everywhere in the world, but currently that’s not realistic.

Now, I've heard people say they lived with sheep and goats in the same buildings, in Yorubaland. Cant say I've done the same except when we had dogs who lived with us inside the house. However, did the people who kept their livestock inside, not clean their houses? Poultry and goats poop all the time. I doubt a sane person would be comfortable living inside a house filled with animal droppings. Besides, arent the animals normally brought in at night, to guard against them being stolen? But are outside during the day?

TheSeeker:

Don't let us start delving into this. I'm not interested in who's dirtier but the overall assertion by some folks that a particular tribe is dirty is despicable. I don't see why people should label Yoruba as being the dirtiest. I do have to admit that the dirtiest thing --- to me at least --- I found in Yorubaland, but that doesn't make Yoruba dirtiest. Anyone who's been to Origbo & Modakeke will bear witness with me. And by the way, Origbo consists of 6 towns.

tpia.:

I have no idea where Origbo is and neither have I ever been inside Modakeke. I've just seen the place enroute to somewhere else. I even thought it was Ife until I learnt otherwise.

But I believe Yorubaland consists of more than just those towns and villages.

Maybe you're referring to a particular state? I'm not too familiar with Osun either though it seems most non-Yoruba nairalanders claiming they were "born and raised" in Yorubaland, tend to be referring to Osun when they say so, with a few of them meaning Lagos.

Yes, I used those two locations because I wanted to take an example from Osun state. Of course there are lots of other places dirtier than those places I mentioned, even in other states but that's not the issue here. I see it sometimes as not being dirty but somewhat an action that speaks it. To me, when you hoard goats and sheep, you'd have a shelter for them different from where humans sleep. Some people go as far as letting this animals sleep in the same house with residents at very close proximity -- I find that a dirty act as well as lack of proper orientated healthy living.

If I'm talking about Yoruba now, I'm not referring to macro-towns and larger cities. I am referring to places where they have less exposure down to villages. They might not regard it as dirtiness but they are all acted. People constructing toilets close to where they fetch water sounds dirty to me. Dung hills located close to people's house and a lot more are acts of dirtiness. I wouldn't straight-call it dirtiness but just lack of orientation. I do believe if there's enough sensitization there'd be changes and seems the government have been doing a wonderful work in that area; that some of these places are beginning to look transformed.

Overall, I don't think Yoruba are the dirtiest -- they do have very irritating dirty traits that's being exhibited but that's not to say they are the dirtiest. It's different for those of us who were raised outside these villages as we can't see these things unless we go on a hunt into these places and see what's up. In my opinion, Hausa are the dirtiest. Houseflies are their friends