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Re: Osun -- State Of The Living Spring! Identify Here by Nobody: 5:56am On Jul 24, 2009
tpia.:


gbam.

I've lived in the village though and I still couldnt complain beyond the fact that its quieter, less electricity and fewer people.

But I dont compare the two (village and city) because they're not the same. Village is village and city is city.

However, unlike most Yoruba nairalanders, my own village was clean, neat and we didnt have a sanitation problem.

So I guess I'm just special and didnt experience what was common to the majority. My grandma kept a neat house.
Thank you jare.

Even my village now has been modernized. Electricity (maybe not constant) is spreading and roads are being built. The village sef dey try, compared to some dirty part of Lagos.
Re: Osun -- State Of The Living Spring! Identify Here by Nobody: 5:57am On Jul 24, 2009
http://messagecom./2007/12/10/tampax-aid-to-african-girls-profit-vs-altruism/


Tampax aid to African girls – profit vs. altruism

Prior to my workshop, I attended a girls caucus session and was blown away by two young women from Kenya who spoke about the very issue Tampax is seeking to address.

One of the young women presented the fact that many girls miss an average of one school week per month due to menstruation and the lack of affordable sanitary supplies. A month’s supply, she reported, cost $2.00 and the average family subsisted on only $1.00 per month.

The young woman was part of a grass roots initiative to distribute reusable, cotton pads. The other young Kenyan woman challenged this initiative stating that water was so precious in her village, that using it to wash out a used pad was preposterous. As the debate raged on about how to tackle this problem, I began to feel sheepish about my upcoming workshop topic, fearing it would seem abstract and esoteric in comparison.

It was eye-opening to hear that something as basic as the lack of a hygiene product meant that on average, girls missed a month of school per year and that by high school they began to fall behind their male counter parts as the result.


Environmental blogger Deanna Duke, while channel-surfing five weeks ago, happened upon a commercial for Always pads. It showed a sad-looking African girl who couldn’t go to school during her period because she didn’t have “feminine protection”. Thanks to a new $1.4-million campaign by Procter & Gamble, the ad explained, her village was receiving disposable pads so she and other girls could go to school.

“There was something that didn’t sit right with me,” Duke told the Straight in a phone interview from Seattle on March 11. “It struck me, what was the environmental impact of doing this? What do they do with all these things?…And what happens in five years [after the girls graduate]?”

Duke asked her readers if anyone would be interested in sewing reusable pads to send to African girls as an alternative to P & G’s campaign. That’s how her new charity, goods4girls.org, came about. It’s working with Vancouver-based Lunapads, a five-woman collective that makes reusable pads and has been donating kits to African girls for more than five years.

http://www.straight.com/article-135772/pads-save-or-trash-africa
Re: Osun -- State Of The Living Spring! Identify Here by Nobody: 5:59am On Jul 24, 2009

A Not-So-Simple Plan to Keep African Girls in School

THEY call it the Map of Africa.

It is a cute name for an acute problem: the stains that African girls often endure when they are menstruating and the rags or camel's skin they use for protection fail. ''Girls who can't manage their period stay home, and that is affecting their education,'' said Michelle J. Vaeth, communications director for FemCare, the Procter & Gamble unit that makes Always pads and Tampax tampons.


So FemCare is tackling the problem head-on. In March, it inaugurated Protecting Futures, a program to first build bathrooms, then educate teachers and finally distribute free pads, in hopes of keeping African girls in school.

Protecting Futures is not FemCare's first foray into Africa. For two years, it has been working with the Girl Child Network, a nonprofit, to give its pads to schoolgirls in Kenya, and it is compiling data to quantify the effect that the program has had on attendance.

Yet skeptics abound. Esther Duflo, an economics professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, says that absentee rates are the same for boys and girls in much of Africa, and that programs like providing free uniforms and books seem to increase attendance. ''What's keeping children from school is the costs of attending,'' she said.

But studies by the Forum for African Women Educationalists, a nongovernmental organization, seem to support FemCare's hypothesis.

''Girls will stay home rather than be embarrassed,'' said Faith Macharia, the national director of the forum's Kenya chapter. She said the studies showed that ''cumulatively, they can lose a whole month of schooling each year.''

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C07E6DB1630F931A25752C1A9619C8B63
Re: Osun -- State Of The Living Spring! Identify Here by Nobody: 6:00am On Jul 24, 2009
FL Gators:

Thank you jare.

Even my village now has been modernized. Electricity (maybe not constant) is spreading and roads are being built. The village sef dey try, compared to some dirty part of Lagos.

Lagos is overcrowded.

Getting the lagos population under control is another big headache.
Re: Osun -- State Of The Living Spring! Identify Here by Nobody: 6:14am On Jul 24, 2009
btw @ TheSeeker

your hausa reference: that may be quite true for the poorer people but I doubt the rich ones are majorly filthy sha. and living in the dusty savanah close to the desert and without forest cover, has its disadvantages. Probably contributes to a short temper too.



Neither do Nigerians help themselves by reducing their number of wives and concubines.

I personally cant settle anywhere I dont respect the people because the day I misyarn pass na my livelihood them go demand as payment.
Re: Osun -- State Of The Living Spring! Identify Here by Nobody: 2:04pm On Jul 24, 2009
TheSeeker:

Yes, I used those two locations because I wanted to take an example from Osun state. Of course there are lots of other places dirtier than those places I mentioned, even in other states but that's not the issue here. I see it sometimes as not being dirty but somewhat an action that speaks it. To me, when you hoard goats and sheep, you'd have a shelter for them different from where humans sleep. Some people go as far as letting this animals sleep in the same house with residents at very close proximity -- I find that a dirty act as well as lack of proper orientated healthy living.

If I'm talking about Yoruba now, I'm not referring to macro-towns and larger cities. I am referring to places where they have less exposure down to villages. They might not regard it as dirtiness but they are all acted. People constructing toilets close to where they fetch water sounds dirty to me. Dung hills located close to people's house and a lot more are acts of dirtiness. I wouldn't straight-call it dirtiness but just lack of orientation. I do believe if there's enough sensitization there'd be changes and seems the government have been doing a wonderful work in that area; that some of these places are beginning to look transformed.

Overall, I don't think Yoruba are the dirtiest -- they do have very irritating dirty traits that's being exhibited but that's not to say they are the dirtiest. It's different for those of us who were raised outside these villages as we can't see these things unless we go on a hunt into these places and see what's up. In my opinion, Hausa are the dirtiest. Houseflies are their friends  grin grin


just seeing this one.

Once again, I cant relate to the issue of people constructing toilets near their water supply, since I have no knowledge of that anywhere I've been in Yorubaland.

Most villages I know of both within and outside Yorubaland, had a public water supply which was nowhere near any waste facility.

I would have asked you to name the places where you saw these things (was it Modakeke and Origbo?) if you dont mind doing so.

Most of the stuff you're describing sounds like what would be found in a hamlet, which is smaller and more transient than an actual village. Was the toilet facility near a well used for drinking water?

The issue of goats and sheep sleeping in the same house as humans. Which by the way, I find hard to believe is another exclusively "Yoruba" trait, I addressed in a previous post. Some people would prefer to have them locked in the house at night because if they leave them outside, they might get stolen. And the animals would normally sleep in the passageway or central corridor, not inside people's bedrooms. If a human being is sleeping in the corridor with them, then that's either sheer poverty or gross wickedness. In the morning the house is swept before people go about their business.

I've been to different places in Nigeria too and I know my impressions of what I saw.

My main point here is outside of a slum, dirtiness is an individual thing, not a tribal one. Posting pictures of lagos trash heaps or seeing people with lower hygiene standards doesnt mean all Yorubas are dirty.

One thing you should consider especially with the bigger towns is if the indigenes were the sole residents there, would the level of "dirtiness" decrease.

alright, I'm off for now since them tell me say I dey spend too much time on here. Some people want to be in the spotlight and I'm preventing them from doing so.

But if there are any more questions that need to be straightened out or experiences to be compared, I'll be back.
Re: Osun -- State Of The Living Spring! Identify Here by amosexy: 1:58am On Jul 25, 2009
E ku ile / e kale oo eyin omo iya mi nt ekiti ppl ooo

@ Gators

Aunti mi gators abi koyin abi seni abi toyin abi teni ni oruko yin ?
Ewo e so ara yin ooo,mi o like bi e se fi oko bu mi oo
mo ma nke gan ni ti eniyan ba fi oko bu mi cry cry cry cry cry cry
Olorun seun oga seeker get back mi lale ana tongue tongue tongue tongue
Re: Osun -- State Of The Living Spring! Identify Here by Nobody: 2:01am On Jul 25, 2009
amosexy:

E ku ile / e kale oo eyin omo iya mi nt ekiti ppl ooo

@ Gators

Aunti mi gators abi koyin abi seni abi toyin abi teni ni oruko yin ?
Ewo e so ara yin ooo,mi o like bi e se fi oko bu mi oo
mo ma nke gan ni ti eniyan ba fi oko bu mi cry cry cry cry cry cry
Olorun seun oga seeker get back mi lale ana tongue tongue tongue tongue

oga seeker "back" e? shocked shocked shocked A bit too fast, ma dear. You two just met 3 days ago.

Oya, ma binu. sukun no more
Re: Osun -- State Of The Living Spring! Identify Here by amosexy: 2:40am On Jul 25, 2009
@ gator

Ok mi o binu mo bebe grin

Abi oga seeker sha gave u 3-0 last 9t n u were screaming for Ifeleke to come and save u, ahahahahah Osun ppl are alwaz winning .
Re: Osun -- State Of The Living Spring! Identify Here by Nobody: 2:43am On Jul 25, 2009
amosexy:

@ gator

Ok mi o binu mo bebe grin

Abi oga seeker sha gave u 3-0 last 9t n u were screaming for Ifeleke to come and save u, ahahahahah Osun ppl are alwaz winning .
LOL, gave me kini?
We didnt get to that level lastnight cheesy

Like you said, he was busy backing you. No wonder you're glowing today tongue
Re: Osun -- State Of The Living Spring! Identify Here by amosexy: 2:54am On Jul 25, 2009
FL Gators:

LOL, gave me kini?
We didnt get to that level lastnight cheesy

Like you said, he was busy backing you. No wonder you're glowing today tongue


Oh God save me from NL ppl ooo, u guyz can twist ppl words jesu !!
Dat was how i said i hung out with a guy, Evrybdy said i was cheating on my boy.
Oro gbogbo yin ti su mi oooo

Auntmi gators gat my backk = gbeja mi
Oni yeye ni e gators
Re: Osun -- State Of The Living Spring! Identify Here by Nobody: 2:56am On Jul 25, 2009
amosexy:

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Oh God save me from NL ppl ooo, u guyz can twist ppl words jesu !!
Dat was how i said i hung out with a guys, Evrybdy said i was cheating on my boy.
Oro gbogbo yin ti su mi oooo

Auntmi gators gat my backk = gbeja mi
Oni yeye ni e gators
See you, I haven't even started yet.

Oya, let's play nice na. You too like wahala undecided cheesy
Re: Osun -- State Of The Living Spring! Identify Here by amosexy: 3:04am On Jul 25, 2009
U avnt started ke ? this nite again !! mo ti daran ooo.
I wan take gud body sleep this 9t oo,so plz dont start.
Ohh start sef who cares , i know wat to do
Do u know map of Ado-ekiti ? i'm nt sure
If u start anything with me dis 9t,I will invite becomrich to come and draw ur map nao .
Re: Osun -- State Of The Living Spring! Identify Here by Nobody: 3:10am On Jul 25, 2009
amosexy:

U avnt started ke ? this nite again !! mo ti daran ooo.
I wan take gud body sleep this 9t oo,so plz dont start.
Ohh start sef who cares , i know wat to do
Do u know map of Ado-ekiti ? i'm nt sure
If u start anything with me dis 9t,I will invite becomrich to come and draw ur map nao .
Do you not give up? undecided shocked
See me see trouble o.
Oya, don't worry, I'll start ignoring your post from now on.
Until you can bring something sensible out of those keyboards. wink
Re: Osun -- State Of The Living Spring! Identify Here by TheSeeker(m): 3:14am On Jul 25, 2009
Gators, are you still jostling my girl? grin
Re: Osun -- State Of The Living Spring! Identify Here by Nobody: 3:17am On Jul 25, 2009
Tell your girl to leave me oh.
I can play but its not necessary for someone to get hurt while playing.
So I don dey step out of the thread until things get back in order again
Re: Osun -- State Of The Living Spring! Identify Here by amosexy: 3:22am On Jul 25, 2009
FL Gators:

Tell your girl to leave me oh.
I can play but its not necessary for someone to get hurt while playing.
So I don dey step out of the thread until things get back in order again

Haba madam , r u hurt becos i threaten to invite becomrich?
Beside i was only jokin nao, so u r scared of becomrich,i tot i was the only one  grin grin grin
Re: Osun -- State Of The Living Spring! Identify Here by TheSeeker(m): 3:22am On Jul 25, 2009
Is it that serious? C'mon. OK, bring up a topic and let's talk about it --- I know you got something up your beautiful brains. . . . . let's go
Re: Osun -- State Of The Living Spring! Identify Here by Nobody: 3:26am On Jul 25, 2009
TheSeeker:

Is it that serious? C'mon. OK, bring up a topic and let's talk about it --- I know you got something up your beautiful brains. . . . . let's go
What I want to know, you won't be able to tell me without being bias.
I want str8 facts without biased opinions
Re: Osun -- State Of The Living Spring! Identify Here by TheSeeker(m): 3:30am On Jul 25, 2009
FL Gators:

What I want to know, you won't be able to tell me without being bias.
I want str8 facts without biased opinions
Sweetie, I'm not biased unless I'm pulling legs. I'm always very direct. Ask me whatever it is, I will tell you the best I know.
Re: Osun -- State Of The Living Spring! Identify Here by Nobody: 3:34am On Jul 25, 2009
TheSeeker:

Sweetie, I'm not biased unless I'm pulling legs. I'm always very direct. Ask me whatever it is, I will tell you the best I know.
Okiez, I trust you.
I want to know more about Ekiti State. Well, you know so much, so you ought to know some FACTs, right? tongue
Re: Osun -- State Of The Living Spring! Identify Here by TheSeeker(m): 3:37am On Jul 25, 2009
I'll try. Go on
Re: Osun -- State Of The Living Spring! Identify Here by Nobody: 3:39am On Jul 25, 2009
Tell me something I can't find on the net.
Some things are better heard from a Nigerian himself.
I'm not exactly sure what to ask, why don't you tell me what you know wink
Re: Osun -- State Of The Living Spring! Identify Here by TheSeeker(m): 3:43am On Jul 25, 2009
Ekitis are accommodating, nice and friendly. But you have to hand them the "secretive awards". They are the astrologic scorpio when it comes to being secretive. They believe in revenge but they are very nice. Almost half of Ekiti are Londoners.
Re: Osun -- State Of The Living Spring! Identify Here by Nobody: 3:49am On Jul 25, 2009
TheSeeker:

Ekitis are accommodating, nice and friendly. But you have to hand them the "secretive awards". They are the astrologic scorpio when it comes to being secretive. They believe in revenge but they are very nice. Almost half of Ekiti are Londoners.
Hmm interesting. Those are biased opinions, but am not complaining grin

As for revenge, negative.

That's it? Nothing about the culture, geography, etc?
Re: Osun -- State Of The Living Spring! Identify Here by TheSeeker(m): 3:52am On Jul 25, 2009
FL Gators:

Hmm interesting. Those are biased opinions, but am not complaining grin

As for revenge, negative.

That's it? Nothing about the culture, geography, etc?
What's bias about my comment? I'm just saying what I've been able to associate with the Ekitis I know so far -- in person
Re: Osun -- State Of The Living Spring! Identify Here by Nobody: 3:54am On Jul 25, 2009
TheSeeker:

What's bias about my comment? I'm just saying what I've been able to associate with the Ekitis I know so far -- in person
Ok, gotz you.

But I also asked if you know anything about the culture, geography, language, people etc

Thanks, you're such a great help
Re: Osun -- State Of The Living Spring! Identify Here by TheSeeker(m): 4:01am On Jul 25, 2009
FL Gators:

Ok, gotz you.

But I also asked if you know anything about the culture, geography, language, people etc

Thanks, you're such a great help
Part of Ekiti's culture is education. It tells a lot with the number of professors found in each compound. Ekiti people are somewhat aren't quite represented in the entertainment industry or sports, but they are very diplomatic in nature. Like I said the other day, there are some parts of Ekiti that speaks "Ijesha" and another that speaks "Igbomina" both from Osun State. They do have some other dialects but those are the two major I guess.

Another thing is they are always faithful in their relationships and marriage. Always direct to the point and factual. They are honest to a fault. I can't say how well they do in business as well.
Re: Osun -- State Of The Living Spring! Identify Here by Nobody: 4:09am On Jul 25, 2009
Ta!!! Professors and yet nothing has been done to better develop the state. embarassed

Okiez! I'd like to add that they are very friendly. I still remember living in Naija and peeps cooking for each other. During Christmas or Easter, they'll cook and carry food to people's house, so everybody can eat and celebrate.

I love my state kiss kiss
Re: Osun -- State Of The Living Spring! Identify Here by Remii(m): 4:16am On Jul 25, 2009
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Re: Osun -- State Of The Living Spring! Identify Here by Nobody: 4:21am On Jul 25, 2009
Oga Remilekun, ki lo n pa yin lerin?
Re: Osun -- State Of The Living Spring! Identify Here by Remii(m): 4:25am On Jul 25, 2009
FL Gators:

Oga Remilekun, ki lo n pa yin lerin?

TGIF, jare it's been hell of a week.

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