DavidEsq:

In Acts 15:20, was sexual immorality not equated wit use of blood?

How does that even come close to answering the 2 questions I asked? What brought sexual immorality inside? Or does sexual immorality preserve life? It's fine if you don't know the answers I asked, just admit it. No one has monopoly on knowing the bible or interpreting it

Ginaz:


Just because everything would pass away doesn't mean I don't deserve to know the truth. The Bible clearly stated that the "truth" would set you free. I want to be set free.

i totally agree wit ur perception on religion as karl max said "religion is the opioum of the masses,the help of the helpless and the soul of the souless and we are so drunk in it...to me religion is created by man to answear question abt GOD that he has no answear to, there is no true religion,there is an iota of truth in every religion but u can only know that if u have an open mind...

Malolu:


wow. Thanks for that verse as stated by our Lord Jesus. The same in Mark 7:15-16..then he went on till 23 to describe examples in the intent or heart of man which really leads to defilement. I actually loved the wisdom of Jesus proved here when he went against the doctrines of elders and of men. We have been saying the samethings over and over again, people tend to misinterpret God's word leading to entirely another form of doctrine. We have it all across Christianity.

You're welcome oh. Exactly, Jesus wanted people to be saved and not be weighed down by laws, that had no real purpose with people's relationships with God. That's the main problem I have with the JW's, the arrogance and haughtiness of them thinking they are the only ones interpreting and teaching the bible accurately when a lot of their doctrines are ridiculous and downright non-christian. They also make up only 0.37% of christians in the world and 0.1% of population in the world and somehow think their religion is the only correct one.

I try to learn new things everyday and I even learn from children but they wouldn't even listen to another christian preaching them because they know it all already

please do not believe whatever this jw group teaches
have been a member of this group for ten good years and i was even an elder so I know what am talking about.
alot of what they teach and practice have been change over time and they always use mind control techniques to make members get scared of living the organisation.
they don't have respect for family union this cult group will totally destroy your brain and how you think to the extend you will be seen non members of the jw group as devil.
I left this cult and evil group after I find out about thee false teaching and mind control techniques.

and please never you mind the poster of this jw fact because he have been recruited to defend this cult group on naira land. don't waist your time posting because this guy is so blind folded that he can't diny been a jw member because he is scared of been excommunicated. oloshi people

sirBLUNT:
i totally agree wit ur perception on religion as karl max said "religion is the opioum of the masses,the help of the helpless and the soul of the souless and we are so drunk in it...to me religion is created by man to answear question abt GOD that he has no answear to, there is no true religion,there is an iota of truth in every religion but u can only know that if u have an open mind...

You see now? You can't questioned or seek answers or you are viewed like you are going astray and thinking like people of the world.

This is what I so much hate about my religion. They tag you weak, apostate, worldly and having worldly thoughts when you see answers.

I mean, this is my salvation, my future, my faith. Why should I not questioned it to ascertain that it is the right path I am taking? Why should I get shunned when I ask questions? Look at the way @BIBLESPEAKS said to me. I should not let my decisions be influenced by the thinking of the world.

If I questioned my faith, does that mean I am being influenced by the world? I do not have the right to know about the religion I worship with?

I'm open minded, I'm learnt to flow with it since I can't do anything. I hate the hard stares they give me, I hate the faces, the questions they ask me. Like I will corrupt their kids and stuff

Anyway, I do not intent to raise my kids as JW and would not marry one. I don't know what I believe anymore but I am for certain God would not want a pregnant mother or a young child to die by refusing them blood.

God is not wicked.

that is wat am facing as well infact i was told if i dont stop asking question i wil end up been aitheist but i wont stop...right now i try to avoid religious discussions wit shallow minded people Ginaz i must confence u seems to be the kind of person i wil lyk to have as a friend,am glad hav med ur likes here....

atoleybaba:
what version did u read? Why don't u take d real script DT was written in Hebrew so u can really know what john 1: 1 is...... And stop arguing what u don't know

I see Jws knows it more than any other denomination..you have the best translators abi??.....so the real translation of the bible didn't come until one American con man formed JWs in what century again??...so all those who lived bfre that century had a wrong translation of the bible....think man??....u have been brainwashed.....open ur eyes bfre its too late.... Heresy is a terrible sin

Olifiz:


Jesus can never in anyway be equal to God whether in nature or physically or in authority. They are two different entity. The Bible represent Jesus as mighty and God as Almiggty also see Philippians 2:5-8. Jesus is not God n can never be equal to God. Even God have to exault him. U can only tell me they have a common goal n that’s to the sanctification and glorification of he’s fathers name God. The word trinity in itself can’t be found in the Bible which means the triad God, it’s a doctrines that originates with pagan as far back as wen King Namaan..... Even Jesus and the apostles didn’t preach trinity. Christians are to follow Jesus steps closely.

U just said the Jesus is referred to as mighty God.....so lemme ask u is Jesus God??

Olifiz:


Jesus can never in anyway be equal to God whether in nature or physically or in authority. They are two different entity. The Bible represent Jesus as mighty and God as Almiggty also see Philippians 2:5-8. Jesus is not God n can never be equal to God. Even God have to exault him. U can only tell me they have a common goal n that’s to the sanctification and glorification of he’s fathers name God. The word trinity in itself can’t be found in the Bible which means the triad God, it’s a doctrines that originates with pagan as far back as wen King Namaan..... Even Jesus and the apostles didn’t preach trinity. Christians are to follow Jesus steps closely.

Oh I believed they did...they often spoke about The Father , the Son Jesus and even of the Holy Spirit.............I asked again is Jesus God??

natsuflame:

if no one joins the army then there would be no wars.

Rubbish is the army or the force only for fighting wars....even great men like David had armies and were part of armies......what of armed robbers, kidnappers...if ders no one in d force den who will combat these kinds.......

We can see the kind of evil world these pple want for us

saintmark88:


Oh I believed they did...they often spoke about The Father , the Son Jesus and even of the Holy Spirit.............I asked again is Jesus God??

Jesus is not God o. Jesus is the son of God.. there’s is a father, God and Jesus is he’s son. They are two different entities and they are not equal as stated at Philippians 2:5-6. There the Bible said we should the same mental attitude that was in Jesus that even tho he was in Gods form (he’s fathers form) he gave no consideration to a siezure that he was equal to he’s father. Do you know that the word trinity which means a triad god head didn’t start as a doctrine with Christianity. In Babylon den they worship trinitarian triad god heads....the fundamental thing is that the doctrine have its roots from pagan (pls make ur research well) Jesus didn’t teach trinity he never said he was equal to God he even said he’s father God is greater than he is... so why will people now say God is the father, the same God is the son and the same God is the Holy Spirit. If it’s like that then Jesus was contradicting himself. Places where the Bible made mention of the three entities doesn’t mean they are the same. If u are to go thru Christ during prayer to reach God doesn’t mean they are equal it just mean Jesus is the mediator btw man and God. Mathew 28:19 says go therefore n make disciples of all the nation baptizing them in the name of the father of the son and of the Holy Spirit doesn’t outrightly make them equal in position, physical or in form etc. if the are equal n the same Jesus who have lived with God for so long would have known he is equal n the same to God and won’t come on earth to say God is greater than him. He would outrightly say he and his father are the same or equal. Now check Colossians 1:15-16 Jesus was said to be the firstborn of all creation n thru him every other thing was made n for him.

Olifiz:


Jesus is not God o. Jesus is the son of God.. there’s is a father, God and Jesus is he’s son. They are two different entities and they are not equal as stated at Philippians 2:5-6. There the Bible said we should the same mental attitude that was in Jesus that even tho he was in Gods form (he’s fathers form) he gave no consideration to a siezure that he was equal to he’s father. Do you know that the word trinity which means a triad god head didn’t start as a doctrine with Christianity. In Babylon den they worship trinitarian triad god heads....the fundamental thing is that the doctrine have its roots from pagan (pls make ur research well) Jesus didn’t teach trinity he never said he was equal to God he even said he’s father God is greater than he is... so why will people now say God is the father, the same God is the son and the same God is the Holy Spirit. If it’s like that then Jesus was contradicting himself. Places where the Bible made mention of the three entities doesn’t mean they are the same. If u are to go thru Christ during prayer to reach God doesn’t mean they are equal it just mean Jesus is the mediator btw man and God. Mathew 28:19 says go therefore n make disciples of all the nation baptizing them in the name of the father of the son and of the Holy Spirit doesn’t outrightly make them equal in position, physical or in form etc. if the are equal n the same Jesus who have lived with God for so long would have known he is equal n the same to God and won’t come on earth to say God is greater than him. He would outrightly say he and his father are the same or equal. Now check Colossians 1:15-16 Jesus was said to be the firstborn of all creation n thru him every other thing was made n for him.

One simple question.....why did Thomas refer to Jesus as My Lord and My God??....

Y did elizabeth refer to Mary as the mother of my Lord??

After answering those two, answer this one.....how can one b in d form of the Father if he himself isn't God??

Mind trinitarian teaching doesn't say the same God is the Father, Son and Spirit....that's the interpretation you and ur sect decided to give it, in order to make urselves feel.right.

Nobody is saying the Father isn't than Jesus...after all Jesus himselve said so.

He said I and the Father are one and went further to say but the Father is greater than I......but that is not the ish here

U said Jesus is not God....but Thomas said My Lord and My God referring to Jesus....Jesus didn't rebuke him....can u explain that??

1stflight:
@All: on the issue of blood, I have 2 points to make.

1. To understand Acts 15: 20,28&29 we need to ask some questions. Let me quote verse 29: "that you abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality........ ".(NKJV). The first question is why was this instruction given?
Genesis 9:3,4sheds some light. Verse 4:"but you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, it's blood "(NKJV). This was after God said every animals should be food for Adam.
It was clearly stated, don't eat the animals(flesh) with their blood(original instruction).

Now fast forward to Acts 15, reading the whole chapter it was written about circumcision. Lots of pagan practices have crept into the congregation which includes eating or direct consumption of blood hence the need for that instructions.

My second question: "Can the start of medical transfusion be dated as early as that time?"
If not, if not I don't under the interpretation of JW that "abstain" involves blood transfusion.

2. You won't accept blood transfusion but you can accept blood fractions. Is that not double standard??

I guess u know God knows things before hand and he’s the wisest. If u can come to terms with that u will believe he would have surely known that in the future there will be blood transfusion. If there’s was a law that says abstain from water....so becos the law earlier says do not drink water so u now think the other law that says abstain from water will allow u to inject that same water into ur body.

So as the bible said abstain from fornication do u think it’s only restricted to having sex only? Don’t u think all other forms are included.

saintmark88:


U just said the Jesus is referred to as mighty God.....so lemme ask u is Jesus God??

Jesus is not God he is the Son of God.... there’s is a difference between mighty and Almighty? Pls read well. They are not equal ooooo. How can u be saying mighty and Almighty are the same. Haba.

Olifiz:


Jesus is not God he is the Son of God.... there’s is a difference between mighty and Almighty? Pls read well. They are not equal ooooo. How can u be saying mighty and Almighty are the same. Haba.

Isaiah 44:6
"Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: 'I am the first and I am the last, And there is no God besides Me.

Who made this statement......Jehova or Jesus??

saintmark88:


One simple question.....why did Thomas refer to Jesus as My Lord and My God??....

Y did elizabeth refer to Mary as the mother of my Lord??

After answering those two, answer this one.....how can one b in d form of the Father if he himself isn't God??

Mind trinitarian teaching doesn't say the same God is the Father, Son and Spirit....that's the interpretation you and ur sect decided to give it, in order to make urselves feel.right.

Nobody is saying the Father isn't than Jesus...after all Jesus himselve said so.

He said I and the Father are one and went further to say but the Father is greater than I......but that is not the ish here

U said Jesus is not God....but Thomas said My Lord and My God referring to Jesus....Jesus didn't rebuke him....can u explain that??

Do u believe the word Lord is a title, if u are married ur wife can call u lord does She mean u are God.... Jesus being in Gods form means they are both in spirit form. So u mean the angels too are God since they are also in Gods form as spirits. U read clearly where the Bible says even tho Jesus was in Gods form he didn’t take it to himself to be equal to him n u are here still saying they are equal. If u have a son and both of u have lived together for long n understood each other n he understand u and having the same goals can’t I say u n ur son are one does that mean u and ur son are equal and the same? Just believe the Bible or word of God have no contradictions

saintmark88:




Isaiah 44:6
"Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: 'I am the first and I am the last, And there is no God besides Me.

Who made this statement......Jehova or Jesus??

Jehovah made the statement about himself being the one redeeming Israel n he being the God of armies.... he is their first and their last. And there is no Other God except him. I’m sure u are aware that Jehovah or God or Lord (being a title) was being ascribed for God during the days of the Israelites. God of Israel or Jehovah of Israel, or Lord of Israel. Just know that Lord is a title not a name. God have been the redeemer of the Israelites since Egypt

ONE OF THE WORST RELIGIONS YOU CAN THINK OFF

THEY ARE A CULT!!!!!! EVIL CULT!!!!! STAY AWAY FROM THAT RELIGION !!!!!!

BRAINWASHED ZOMBIES

BELIEVING IN SOO MANY LIES

ILLUMINATI MEMBER IS THEIR FOREFOUNDING FATHER.

CRIMINALS AND LIARS AND BIGOTS

ALL OF THEM ARE UNDER SERIOUS DELUSION

WICKED RELIGION

FALSE DOCTRINES AND TEACHINGS

SHUNNING BY MEMBERS OF YOUR FAMILY USED AS A THREAT TO KEEP YOU IN LINE

YOU CAN NEVER ESCAPE THEM

I FEEL SO BAD FOR ANY ONE WHO HAS GOTTEN INVOLVED IN THIS EVIL RELIGION

YOUR OWN DON FINISH

DENIERS OF CHRIST

YOU WITNESSES ARE EVEN WORST THAN DEVIL WORSHIPPER BEACUSE DEVIL WORSHIPPER AT LEAST NO SAY JESUS IS LORD AND THEY FEAR HIS MIGHTY NAME.

ALL JEHOVAHS WITNESS ARE UNDER DEMONIC SPELL

ISNT THAT HOW ONE SO CALLED ELDER TRIED TO RAPE MY FRIEND? AND THEN ANOTHER ONE CHEATED ON HIS FIANCE 2 DAYS BEFORE WEDDING?

HYPOCRITES ALL OF THEM


NONSENSE

RIDICULOUS

MTCHEEWWWW


JESUS IS THE LIGHT THE TRUTH AND THE WAY.

THERES A SPECIAL PLACE IN HELL WAITING FOR ALL WHO DENY HIS MIGHTY NAME....

Olifiz:


Jehovah made the statement about himself being the one redeeming Israel n he being the God of armies.... he is their first and their last. And there is no Other God except him. I’m sure u are aware that Jehovah or God or Lord (being a title) was being ascribed for God during the days of the Israelites. God of Israel or Jehovah of Israel, or Lord of Israel. Just know that Lord is a title not a name. God have been the redeemer of the Israelites since Egypt

Good!!!!.....you have said that the First and the Last, the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the End is JEHOVA.

Now Rev 22:13. "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.".....who made this statement??

Olifiz:


Do u believe the word Lord is a title, if u are married ur wife can call u lord does She mean u are God.... Jesus being in Gods form means they are both in spirit form. So u mean the angels too are God since they are also in Gods form as spirits. U read clearly where the Bible says even tho Jesus was in Gods form he didn’t take it to himself to be equal to him n u are here still saying they are equal. If u have a son and both of u have lived together for long n understood each other n he understand u and having the same goals can’t I say u n ur son are one does that mean u and ur son are equal and the same? Just believe the Bible or word of God have no contradictions

Thomas didn't just say My Lord, he said My Lord and my God.

In the bible the Title Lord in all instances was used to refer to God. So how come its only wen Thomas refers to Jesus as his Lord and God that it is now just a title that doesn't mean God??

Now bfre I drop this ur rotten analysis... Lemme ask u for one thing...
Show me were the Title Lord "with the capital letter" didn't refer to God......and pls dnt tell me that in ur Bible, lord not Lord....through out the whole bible, old to new testament??

nkembaby008:


You're welcome oh. Exactly, Jesus wanted people to be saved and not be weighed down by laws, that had no real purpose with people's relationships with God. That's the main problem I have with the JW's, the arrogance and haughtiness of them thinking they are the only ones interpreting and teaching the bible accurately when a lot of their doctrines are ridiculous and downright non-christian. They also make up only 0.37% of christians in the world and 0.1% of population in the world and somehow think their religion is the only correct one.

I try to learn new things everyday and I even learn from children but they wouldn't even listen to another christian preaching them because they know it all already

I understand how you feel. The fact is that the witnesses reveal what other curves teach and why they teach such. So, the witnesses already knows what you believe, and why you believe so. When they disagree with church doctrine, they don't do so to be different, they have reviewed thoroughly why you believe so and see that it has no strong biblical basis. That is why they often know what to say when you raise objection, because they already know the scriptures you use in supporting your views. They also see its weaknesses. However, theyont believe they know it all. They do change their beliefs if they see reasons. But those witnessed that call on ur door isn't the ones that change the belief. They have a body that does so. Individual witnesses can only write to this body, asking questions and making recommendations.

The witnesses number into millions, but they are few comparatively. This however, isn't a reason to think their teachings isn't right. Christianity was quite in the minority in the first century CE. That didn't change the fine truth dispensed by Jesus disciples back then.

For all Jehovah's witnesses here pls stop this arguments with this people or trying to explain anything to them... It will hardly yield any good results.... They have been blind folded.... Titus 3:9, Col 2:4

JMAN05:


I understand how you feel. The fact is that the witnesses reveal what other curves teach and why they teach such. So, the witnesses already knows what you believe, and why you believe so. When they disagree with church doctrine, they don't do so to be different, they have reviewed thoroughly why you believe so and see that it has no strong biblical basis. That is why they often know what to say when you raise objection, because they already know the scriptures you use in supporting your views. They also see its weaknesses. However, theyont believe they know it all. They do change their beliefs if they see reasons. But those witnessed that call on ur door isn't the ones that change the belief. They have a body that does so. Individual witnesses can only write to this body, asking questions and making recommendations.

The witnesses number into millions, but they are few comparatively. This however, isn't a reason to think their teachings isn't right. Christianity was quite in the minority in the first century CE. That didn't change the fine truth dispensed by Jesus disciples back then.

okay, you said they know why I raise an objection and they know what other religions teach. There are 4,200 religions in the world, how has your church managed to learn about all of them to know their doctrines are wrong? I asked a few questions earlier to 2 of your members in the threads above but none has replied me, so I'll ask you.

1) Why have more than 20 scriptures been removed from the newest edition of your bible? They've been there in your other editions and in other bibles.
2) You agree that blood is a symbol/representation of life, so why would you give up your life to honour a symbol? Why is the symbol of life more important than the life itself?
3) If taking blood pollutes the body, how would you interpret Matthew 15:11 or Mark 7:15-16?

Olifiz:


Jehovah made the statement about himself being the one redeeming Israel n he being the God of armies.... he is their first and their last. And there is no Other God except him. I’m sure u are aware that Jehovah or God or Lord (being a title) was being ascribed for God during the days of the Israelites. God of Israel or Jehovah of Israel, or Lord of Israel. Just know that Lord is a title not a name. God have been the redeemer of the Israelites since Egypt

Did u run away??....come and get choked up on ur lies.....pls answer who made the statement in Rev 22:13 and Rev 1:8??

nkembaby008:



okay, you said they know why I raise an objection and they know what other religions teach. There are 4,200 religions in the world, how has your church managed to learn about all of them to know their doctrines are wrong? I asked a few questions earlier to 2 of your members in the threads above but none has replied me, so I'll ask you.

1) Why have more than 20 scriptures been removed from the newest edition of your bible? They've been there in your other editions and in other bibles.
2) You agree that blood is a symbol/representation of life, so why would you give up your life to honour a symbol? Why is the symbol of life more important than the life itself?
3) If taking blood pollutes the body, how would you interpret Matthew 15:11 or Mark 7:15-16?

Dnt mind these guys oh....I have choked one up on his lies and he ran away...I pray he comes back so we will c how he will twist himself into anoda corner

saintmark88:


I see Jws knows it more than any other denomination..you have the best translators abi??.....so the real translation of the bible didn't come until one American con man formed JWs in what century again??...so all those who lived bfre that century had a wrong translation of the bible....think man??....u have been brainwashed.....open ur eyes bfre its too late.... Heresy is a terrible sin

how many translations av u read 1st of all. Again y don't u sit with d witnesses let dem show u diff bible translation so u can see ur ignorance.

nkembaby008:


I never said anyone was forced to be a witness, you keep beating about the bush. I said it was compulsory for a JW to not take blood and the only way they can enforce it is to make sure every JW has a no-blood card. Do you know mandatory and compulsory mean the same thing? How can you say its not by force but in the same breath say it's mandatory? They really need to encourage the youths to pursue higher education so simple comprehension skills like this, do not elude you.

u are still scattering everything in ur head. Cos of ur hatred for d witnesses. Did u observe were I used mandatory and compulsory? Anyways since u av refused to av sense lemme say it in another form. Getting d card is for d witness safety so that his right won't be tampered upon if by any circumstances he is not in a good/healthy state to list clearly his medical option. That is d purpose of d card. Anybody who believes that taking blood is wrong gets d card. Keyword "believes". So has to stand as ur word to the medical personal if by any chance u can't talk with ur mouth or u are totally down. Lemme quickly give u an example of a witness whose belief was tampered with before the emergence of this no blood card. A young 16year old witness she needed blood she was in a coma her parents tried to reason with d doc that dy are witnesses and don't accept blood buh d docs refused to listen and tot it was their responsibility to keep d patient alive at all cost. She was transfused with blood and got better. Tho there was some complication later. Buh when she regained conciousness she wasn't happy with this. She felt bad and tried fighting d hospital legally. Anyways d end of it was that it made d country adjust their law for d right for a minor parent decide d medical option. And now that d card is now available, the doc don't need to argue with anybody so far d patient signature dy are say he no want blood. Are u now cleared?

atoleybaba:
how many translations av u read 1st of all. Again y don't u sit with d witnesses let dem show u diff bible translation so u can see ur ignorance.

I have sat with ur likes and disgraced dem, ur oda fellow here ran away wen I pinned him down on his own lies

Ginaz:
I was brought up a jw, I've always been the curious type. I am not the type that just takes things without researching deeply into it.

I started noticing a lot of thing so wrong when I was a teenager.

1- when you don't go out to preach you are viewed as not spiritually strong.

what is the purpose of Jesus death? Did he die on the cross so we preach about the gospel or so we can have everlasting life? cos the way JW place so much importance in house to house felt like it was all Jesus died for. So we go out and make disciples of people of all the nations. Oh, Jesus would be proud then. "I died so you move house to house to spread the gospel" wow, great.

2) no matter what they say to cover up, it is strictly forbidden to have any other religion materials apart from JW. You are not even to have it. I took a friend's church brochure, the topics sounded interesting, so I took it home to learn more. All hell broke loose. It resulted in me returning the book the next day.

what is wrong if I accept someone's material to possibly learn more about God? What is the Jw afraid for? that its member would go astray? But they say they teach the truth but why are they scared to let it's members broaden their knowledge, contrasts informations and know the truth ?

3) When I started asking questions, telling them my findings, digging deeper they started calling me apostate.

Jesus never called anybody apostate. When the pharisees questioned his source of power to perform miracles, he didn't called them apostate, none did he shunned anybody. And is it biblical? Where was it stated in the Bible to shun people who question you? If they teach the truth why are they afraid of giving answers?

4) Jesus said you should baptized in the name of the Father, son and holy Spirit. When you are being baptized as a Jw, you are asked if you know that your baptism signifies you as a member of Jehovah witness

where did the Bible make mentioned that baptism signifies one as a member of a religion? Is it scriptural? Doesn't it sounds like you are getting baptized into a religion not to God? Why should my baptism identify me as being a member to Jw? Is it the religion I am getting baptized to or to God? I find that part offensive hence my reason of not getting baptized as a JW

These and so many questions I have but they won't answer. Since I can not leave well I'm stuck. In fact I wrote all my questions down, when they saw I wasn't giving up they stopped answering me.

I stopped believing in religion a long time ago. I think God would not choose one religion from the other cos no religion is right in the eyes of God.

We should do Good for the motherless and fatherless, give to the needy and obey his commandments. That's the only true religion.

the rests are doctrines of men, twisted to make it look like it's the truth

I too lived my young life a JW, I feel your outcry. However, what sorted out my inquisitiveness was the character my uncles portrayed. Their good character was like a suit they wore outside to impress onlookers and took off when they got home. However 'the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit' seem more of Trinity which is unbiblical as how it is viewed today. Moreover, the bringing in of another religion's brochure into a JW family and they prohibiting it is not supposed to be so. I was born inquisitive and a researcher. I love to know new things, so they hindering that gift for 'personal dogma' isa absurd thinking it would change the mind pattern, not knowing some just want to compare and contrast.

atoleybaba:
u are still scattering everything in ur head. Cos of ur hatred for d witnesses. Did u observe were I used mandatory and compulsory? Anyways since u av refused to av sense lemme say it in another form. Getting d card is for d witness safety so that his right won't be tampered upon if by any circumstances he is not in a good/healthy state to list clearly his medical option. That is d purpose of d card. Anybody who believes that taking blood is wrong gets d card. Keyword "believes". So has to stand as ur word to the medical personal if by any chance u can't talk with ur mouth or u are totally down. Lemme quickly give u an example of a witness whose belief was tampered with before the emergence of this no blood card. A young 16year old witness she needed blood she was in a coma her parents tried to reason with d doc that dy are witnesses and don't accept blood buh d docs refused to listen and tot it was their responsibility to keep d patient alive at all cost. She was transfused with blood and got better. Tho there was some complication later. Buh when she regained conciousness she wasn't happy with this. She felt bad and tried fighting d hospital legally. Anyways d end of it was that it made d country adjust their law for d right for a minor parent decide d medical option. And now that d card is now available, the doc don't need to argue with anybody so far d patient signature dy are say he no want blood. Are u now cleared?

Lmao I hate the witnesses? How? By asking you questions, I hate you? You're the one murdering English language to prove your non-existent point. My initial point was that it was compulsory for Jehovahs witnesses to carry the card to prove that they don't take blood. You said it's mandatory to carry the card, which proves my point, so I don't know what your argument is for.

"A 16 year old girl sued hospital and the country changed their rules "
What is the link between that and what we were arguing about?

saintmark88:



Dnt mind these guys oh....I have choked one up on his lies and he ran away...I pray he comes back so we will c how he will twist himself into anoda corner

. It's mind-boggling how they pick and choose what to answer and run away when it suits them or in the case of atoleybaba, argue blindly and add cheap insults.