Malolu:


I believe the guy is a JW and true Christians need to respect people and the way they believe the word of God. Ofcourse there's a need for edification and correction in the body of Christ. the truth is any one believes it is a sin for him or her to undergo blood transfusion then so be it for him. But SIN means Satanic In Nature and it's what God abhores. The question is, is it really a sin? Does God refer to anything like blood transfusion. The answer is NO. Remember Jesus said let your yes be yes and no be NO, anything other than this is evil. The first area place God mentioned his disdain for blood-taking was Genesis 9:4....blood there of you SHALL NOT EAT. Leviticus 3:17, Leviticus 17:14 and 19:26 all point to the same. God in His infinite power made known afterwards from Lev 19:26 thru Deuteronomy 12:23 then Acts 15:20 that HE abhors defilement and idolatry when He started making Reference to those things with blood. GOD DID NOT SAY we should not help people's life medically or even lay down..(John 15:13 as Jesus did! after all He's the reason we are called Christians).

Pls I believe Acts 15:20 says: " but we write to them to abstain from things polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from things strangled, and from blood". Isn't that wat it says? Pls I believe the punctuation marks are clear and they are also understood. The simple truth, is dis, we are so desperate to do everything to save our lives and dat is irrespective of wateva means we employ, even if such means involve disobeying the bible. This only confirms wat Satan challenged God with in Job 2:4, that a man wld do everything possible to save his life, even if such things means disobeying God. But in response to this challenge, Jesus Christ said dis in Luke 9:24 that "whoever wants to save his life wld lose it". In other words, if u are so desperate to preserve ur life, even at the expense of bible standards, u wld never c eternal life; u wld perish.
Why shld we serve God but love ourselves above his standards?

Malolu:


Oh DavidEsq, I get your point. The vision has nothing to do with democracy. Note the places I capitalized.. Actually the stone has been the revealed to be the Church..that is the body of Christ. The same body that will be occupying the new heaven and Earth(the new realm) where that "tree of life can now be found again after it had been hidden from fallen man in Eden.

The feet of the image represents a government, just like the head which represented Babylon, ryt?

nkembaby008:
In Deuteronomy 4:2, it says you should not add or subtract from the bible so why does the New World Translation (Jehovah's witnesses bible) have verses removed? Their bible is online so you can check it out

Matthew 17:21
Matthew 18:11
John 7:53 - John 8:11 (a whole 12 verses missing)
Romans 16:24

There are like 26 more different verses they've removed from their bible just because it doesn't suit their teachings.

what is that new thing they removed again? Don't you know the Bible has been edited over 5000 times?

What are you saying?

Sexy20:


Pls are you a witness or you are generalising?

Malolu:


I believe the guy is a JW and true Christians need to respect people and the way they believe the word of God. Ofcourse there's a need for edification and correction in the body of Christ. the truth is any one believes it is a sin for him or her to undergo blood transfusion then so be it for him. But SIN means Satanic In Nature and it's what God abhores. The question is, is it really a sin? Does God refer to anything like blood transfusion. The answer is NO. Remember Jesus said let your yes be yes and no be NO, anything other than this is evil. The first area place God mentioned his disdain for blood-taking was Genesis 9:4....blood there of you SHALL NOT EAT. Leviticus 3:17, Leviticus 17:14 and 19:26 all point to the same. God in His infinite power made known afterwards from Lev 19:26 thru Deuteronomy 12:23 then Acts 15:20 that HE abhors defilement and idolatry when He started making Reference to those things with blood. GOD DID NOT SAY we should not help people's life medically or even lay down..(John 15:13 as Jesus did! after all He's the reason we are called Christians).

Thank you! Thank you!! Thank you again and again!!!

DavidEsq:

Pls I believe Acts 15:20 says: " but we write to them to abstain from things polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from things strangled, and from blood". Isn't that wat it says? Pls I believe the punctuation marks are clear and they are also understood. The simple truth, is dis, we are so desperate to do everything to save our lives and dat is irrespective of wateva means we employ, even if such means involve disobeying the bible. This only confirms wat Satan challenged God with in Job 2:4, that a man wld do everything possible to save his life, even if such things means disobeying God. But in response to this challenge, Jesus Christ said dis in Luke 9:24 that "whoever wants to save his life wld lose it". In other words, if u are so desperate to preserve ur life, even at the expense of bible standards, u wld never c eternal life; u wld perish.
Why shld we serve God but love ourselves above his standards?

hi David, I recommend you look at the biblical explanation of that which I already made to msheddy about the issue of blood. We don't pick things out of context when it comes to God's word. It leads to errors. Of course a lot of people have references to their doctrines and believe, for instance some believe you must never where shoes to the presence of God. God actually told Moses that, which is true for some reasons which is true and more than what people guess the reason is...dirt and all..but that's not it..well that's off topic. But it's related. I do not wanna repeat the already said statement about blood. kindly check my reply with msheddy. If what u think the scriptures says is stay off blood, y do we kill chicken, ram all of meat o..and even fish that has blood..are we not touching d blood already?

atoleybaba:
abeg who force anybody to take blood oga? U better go and do ur findings well. And stop spreading lies. Every witness who rejects blood av signed d paper to reject blood with dre hands and are not compelled by d organisation. Everyone has right to do what he pleases d work of Jehovah's organisation is just to help d person make d right decision by sharing scriptural tots with d person. Dasor. Av a nice day bro. And make sure u confirm something's properly before concluding better still when ever u see the witnesses in ur area simply sit wif them and let them explain to u better and please listen with a good non judgemental heart and u will grab what the witnesses teach

ahh don't lie now. How can you say they are not compelled when the elders give the cards to you to sign? and they in turn sign as witnesses?

saintmark88:



Didn't u say life =blood.....if u change mouth der....abi u won change mouth....oya everybody watch this guy twist it again.....Christ shed his blood for u to have life....and u say sacrificing ur blood for another to have life is a sin??

From ur argument, u equated a dying person in need of blood with the rest of the living world for whom Christ died.
So wen we give or receive blood, according to u, it's equivalent to Christ sacrificing his life for us?
From wat I understand, giving of blood is necessary to save a dying person or a person who wld die if not given blood.
Since we are already alive (which is different from the dying person), why wld Christ need to sacrifice his life for us. In ur argument, u left out the dead who died before christ but who are also entitled to the benefit of Christ's death.
Christ death has nothing to do with preserving our physical lives, but our spiritual relationship with God.
Giving blood has no correlation with the symbol of christ's death, pls. Rom 5:18

somehow:
The person u quoted got the message, sorry if you didn't.

Who cares?

So are you telling me that the part they will inherit the earth is true abi, you can believe at your your own detriment.

nkembaby008:


ahh don't lie now. How can you say they are not compelled when the elders give the cards to you to sign? and they in turn sign as witnesses?

Dey don't give it to u to sign. They only advise u to. They have never given or shared such. In fact, u wld never c such cards unless u request for one. Pls stop acting speculatively like some of our brothers in one part of naija who on a mere rumour wld start slaughtering innocent Nigerians, especially women and children. U sound educated, so act likewise and stop the "dem say" approach.

Malolu:


hi David, I recommend you look at the biblical explanation of that which I already made to msheddy about the issue of blood. We don't pick things out of context when it comes to God's word. It leads to errors. Of course a lot of people have references to their doctrines and believe, for instance some believe you must never where shoes to the presence of God. God actually told Moses that, which is true for some reasons which is true and more than what people guess the reason is...dirt and all..but that's not it..well that's off topic. But it's related. I do not wanna repeat the already said statement about blood. kindly check my reply with msheddy. If what u think the scriptures says is stay off blood, y do we kill chicken, ram all of meat o..and even fish that has blood..are we not touching d blood already?

At the bold, pls look up Gen. 9:3-4. God gave us the right to kill animals but not to eat or use their blood. Killing chickens has nothing to do with using their blood.

Caseless:
what is that new thing they removed again? Don't you know the Bible has been edited over 5000 times?

Those scriptures I put up are in every other bible version but not in their own bible because it doesn't agree with their teachings. They also say other bibles removed the name of God and so are not accurate but Here are more scriptures you wont find in their bible

Matthew 23:14
Mark 7:16
Mark 9:44
Mark 9:46
Mark 11:26
Mark 15:28
Mark 16:9-20
Luke 17:36
Luke 23:17
John 5:4
John 7:53
Acts 8:37
Acts 15:34
Acts 24:7
Acts 28:29

DavidEsq:

At the bold, pls look up Gen. 9:3-4. God gave us the right to kill animals but not to eat or use their blood. Killing chickens has nothing to do with using their blood.

Yeah I already quoted the same verse. You seem to be complicating those verses which shouldn't actually be. Yes God gave us right to kill those things BUT we should stay away from EATING it's blood..People drink and consume it's blood in the Bible as it is clear for devilish, defiling and idolatry purposes. I think that's clear in simple English.

DavidEsq:

Dey don't give it to u to sign. They only advise u to. They have never given or shared such. In fact, u wld never c such cards unless u request for one. Pls stop acting speculatively like some of our brothers in one part of naija who on a mere rumour wld start slaughtering innocent Nigerians, especially women and children. U sound educated, so act likewise and stop the "dem say" approach.

wowww! I'm sorry but if you don't know this then you haven't been a JW for a long time. I was 7 years old when the cards were passed at the book study(that used to be done at brother's houses) and there was a child one as well that was filled by my mum and the book study co-ordinator but my dad stopped us from using it.So I'm not speculating, it's my experience.

Don't have anything to do with blood... Then what do your women do about their menstruation??.. I have a JW coursemate(medical) and we've been cutting up cadavers together, I wonder how she'll cope if she's asked to transfuse blood during clinicals.. can't wait for that day.. lol

A Jehovah witness came to preach for me one day like that, I got confused but I trust holy spirit. He knows every bit of our thought. That same night God told me that JW is a false doctrine meant to deceive the gullible ones. since then I don't borther give them attention. God will take us home.

Another JW witch spotted. Carry ur witch fave put for corna jor. Who send uu? JW sef na church? Abi na cult? Wc one dem be? Pharisees

lovingJehovah:
Oruma, Witch na day know witch. So, when you accept that you are a witch and publicly confess, we will listen to your tales of where they are hiding. When you check the newspapers do you see the JW on the front page dong anything witchlike or pharisee-like?
If they don't believe in what they teach, how can they teach it? If yours is not fake, you would believe in it. Judging the JW by blaspheming them is a sin and you do not seem to care about sinning when you about judging them. Is that not what the Pharisees do? Mr. Christian

another JW witch spotted. Yeye winsh people. All christian denominations around have their own wahala. Judaism is the only true religion, even Jesus was a Jew..the first born ..... Lolz

saintmark88:


God is a mystery, no !an can fully understand him........but I know there is God the Father , God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.
The bible made me understand that....I also know there is one God not three....to man three cannot be equal to one...well for God everything is possible, nothing is impossible... The Bible has only given us a hint

Let us make man
Baptise in the na!e of the Father, Son and Holy spirit
Thomas:My Lord and my God
Elisabeth...why does the mother of My God come to me....

Pls God is not a mystery. See Isaiah 2:2-4.
It's correct that we have 3 beings and one God but they are not equal. John 14:28

ifko:
A Jehovah witness came to preach for me one day like that, I got confused but I trust holy spirit. He knows every bit of our thought. That same night God told me that JW is a false doctrine meant to deceive the gullible ones. since then I don't borther give them attention. God will take us home.

God told u? Even ur own denomination is fake. Serve Jesus and forget denomination. Modern day christianity is a scam. It doesn't align with the gospel of Jesus.

Malolu:


Yeah I already quoted the same verse. You seem to be complicating those verses which shouldn't actually be. Yes God gave us right to kill those things BUT we should stay away from EATING it's blood..People drink and consume it's blood in the Bible as it is clear for devilish, defiling and idolatry purposes. I think that's clear in simple English.

Yes, but look at Acts 15:20. It clearly says stay away from blood. Verse 29 also says same. idolatry and use of blood were clearly separate. The use of comma shows itemization of different acts we shld avoid.

EWAagoyin:
To me Jehovah's witness are among the few Christian sect performing true evangelism.

EVANGELISM...yes, doctrine? NO.
I had a JW coming over some years ago nd wouldnt pray with me, doesnt believe HELL exist.

nkembaby008:


wowww! I'm sorry but if you don't know this then you haven't been a JW for a long time. I was 7 years old when the cards were passed at the book study(that used to be done at brother's houses) and there was a child one as well that was filled by my mum and the book study co-ordinator but my dad stopped us from using it.So I'm not speculating, it's my experience.

Wen the cards wr passed, was the congregation forced to sign or fill it?

Malolu:


hi David, I recommend you look at the biblical explanation of that which I already made to msheddy about the issue of blood. We don't pick things out of context when it comes to God's word. It leads to errors. Of course a lot of people have references to their doctrines and believe, for instance some believe you must never where shoes to the presence of God. God actually told Moses that, which is true for some reasons which is true and more than what people guess the reason is...dirt and all..but that's not it..well that's off topic. But it's related. I do not wanna repeat the already said statement about blood. kindly check my reply with msheddy. If what u think the scriptures says is stay off blood, y do we kill chicken, ram all of meat o..and even fish that has blood..are we not touching d blood already?

Pls o wen u kill chicken do u not cut the neck n drain out the blood is that not u adhering to that law to abstain from blood in acts 15:29. So what’s the difference btw ingesting and injecting both goes into ur body. It’s just getting pointless with all these arguments. The laws are clear.

DavidEsq:

Wen the cards wr passed, was the congregation forced to sign or fill it?

I thought you said the cards are never passed and have to be requested, now you're asking whether the congregation was forced to sign it? Next thing you'll say its optional meanwhile people have been disfellowshipped for taking blood.

Let me ask you sef, why are blood fractions allowed now? Its still blood isn't it? It's like saying I can't drink hot chocolate but I can drink milk, milo, sugar and hot water separately? How does that even make the slightest sense? People died because blood fractions weren't allowed years back and now they are allowed? So will Jehovah ask for their blood from the Governing body since they more or less caused their death?

rapheeky:
Nd u tink its right not to pay ur tithes abi...... Ignorance

Yes, christians shouldn't pay tithes.

DavidEsq:

Pls God is not a mystery. See Isaiah 2:2-4.
It's correct that we have 3 beings and one God but they are not equal. John 14:28

Yeah he is.....as the heaven is far from the earth so r his ways far from our ways......understanding God, his ways in entirety, esp as it regards 3=1 is practically impossible, cos human understanding cannot comprehend

Well I know that by nature they are equal, by authority they aren't.

adajoe555:



And I am proud to be one

Ha! Fine girl, let me give you my house address so you can come and preach to me.


On a serious note, I love JW. I have benefited a lot from their free publications. I get to have watch tower books and others for free.

I love science and JW unlike other denominations doesn't shy away from science. I read a publication about evolution and I'm forever great ful to JW for that book. Even my childhood, my book of Bible stories was my favourite.

DavidEsq:

From ur argument, u equated a dying person in need of blood with the rest of the living world for whom Christ died.
So wen we give or receive blood, according to u, it's equivalent to Christ sacrificing his life for us?
From wat I understand, giving of blood is necessary to save a dying person or a person who wld die if not given blood.
Since we are already alive (which is different from the dying person), why wld Christ need to sacrifice his life for us. In ur argument, u left out the dead who died before christ but who are also entitled to the benefit of Christ's death.
Christ death has nothing to do with preserving our physical lives, but our spiritual relationship with God.
Giving blood has no correlation with the symbol of christ's death, pls. Rom 5:18

Again I said blood =life.....Christ shed his blood for u....even asked u to drink his blood......

"From wat I understand, giving of blood is necessary to save a dying person or a person who wld die if not given blood. "...... So u understand this..,so y is it church against it n all entirety.....

saintmark88:


Again I said blood =life.....Christ shed his blood for u....even asked u to drink his blood......

"From wat I understand, giving of blood is necessary to save a dying person or a person who wld die if not given blood. "...... So u understand this..,so y is it church against it n all entirety.....

because without being suicidal, God's instructions must be adhered to even at the expense of our lives.

saintmark88:


Yeah he is.....as the heaven is far from the earth so r his ways far from our ways......understanding God, his ways in entirety, esp as it regards 3=1 is practically impossible, cos human understanding cannot comprehend

Well I know that by nature they are equal, by authority they aren't.

Wen u say their by nature, mean each of dem is a God right?