engrelvis:
in body of Christ there r different soldiers.pastor Chris belong to d teaching group.others belong to deliverance group etc.nobody is glorifying satan.d greatest trick is for him(satan) to make u believe he is nt there.a demon possess person can suppress it with word of God but believe me is still there . Jesus Christ said he has given us power to step upon serpent n scorpion n cast out demons n principalities.holy spirit is our teachers.

Your problem is you cannot read. Simple.

You are not teaching anything new. Demons exist and Pastor said that in the video. What he disagreed with was the notion of spiritual husband or wife. It is unscriptural.

Yes, a demon can decide to manifest in a certain way but that does not mean the manifestation is now a doctrine. That is the error.

There is no such thing as a deliverance ministry. Except you have written your own bible.

TolaTosin:




We all operate from different realms anyone who's faith can not carry his teachings should leave it.

See there are people if u don't give them olive oil, it is as though they is no God.

Some if they go to church and the pastor didn't tell them that a witch is his problem, they will just feel God was not in church.

May God help us.

Personally I have found out that it beings with the mind, if u open ur mind to operations of demons that is what you will get.

If you open ur mind to sin, that is what you will get.

@shadeyinka, even without going to church, if your keep your mind clean, nothing will happen to you.

@dave

No witch can stop ur progress, it is something that I have tested.

It all begins with the mind, the devil has no power, quote me anywhere.

If a pastor told you so, then I'll call that deception.


The devil is powerful. He can hinder, stop, cause delay, injure beings, etc.

The bible all through proves this and we haven't choice than to agree that he is a powerful being.


Don't underrate him atall. Rather we can enter the realm of a greater power when we are now into Christ to which every knee bows. Now that's the big big difference. Doesn't mean he isn't powerful. His power is just simply trumped by a higher, intact the highest power. By default we that are now sons can now operate in that realm. Does that make him without power? no.


Bottom line. Don't underrate him. The boldness that he thought of tempting Christ in human form shows that he is daring. and Life teaches us to not underrate such persons.


The devil's craft of deception is way way more higher and stronger than his craft for doing evil!!!


The bible talks about witches. In fact let's not start....


Besides your stance on opening your mind is very very weak. Mind receptiveness is not what causes things to happen. Heart receptiveness does coupled with actions.

this is the reason former christians convert to atheism

Because they get confused when Christian have different views
oglalasioux will now take advantage and try to use astrology and metaphysics to explain spiritual things just to justify his beliefs

Maestro21:


You are right and my prayer is that many of Gods children will come up hither.

Something funny happened when Jesus cast out the demon from that boy who was foaming in the mouth and trying to dip himself inside a fire.

Jesus commanded the "deaf and dumb" spirit to come out even though the signs the boy was displaying were more violent and destructive than the name Jesus called the demon will suggest.

If it were today, some people will bring out a whole doctrine on the demon of fire and destruction and teach that anyone who behaves like the boy in the story has it. Whereas, it was a deaf and dumb spirit.

This is the danger of teaching experiences as the word of God.

We called them incubus & succubus Spirits in deliverance ..to say they don't exist is to deny the reality ..whoever doubt this should visit Demon buster blog for detail teaching .Men of God should beware of their pronouncement in the public so as not to confuse the ignorant majority

CuteMadridista:


Settled where? which of them is correct? all can't be correct bro it seems you need to Google those terms in my post you seem not to understand to see the huge differences

If you can point out what's not correct, then that will be a good place to start. When the light of the Father of Light beams on you, your orientation, understanding and level of command changes. It is real, my brother.


If you can just humble yourself and receive Him, you'll experience all round rest even in the midst of the seeming chaos in the world today.

mental slavery. Life filled with mystery.

daveP:
If a pastor told you so, then I'll call that deception.


The devil is powerful. He can hinder, stop, cause delay, injure beings, etc.

The bible all through proves this and we haven't choice than to agree that he is a powerful being.


Don't underrate him atall. Rather we can enter the realm of a greater power when we are now into Christ to which every knee bows. Now that's the big big difference. Doesn't mean he isn't powerful. His power is just simply trumped by a higher, intact the highest power. By default we that are now sons can now operate in that realm. Does that make him without power? no.


Bottom line. Don't underrate him. The boldness that he thought of tempting Christ in human form shows that he is daring. and Life teaches us to not underrate such persons.


The devil's craft of deception is way way more higher and stronger than his craft for doing evil!!!


The bible talks about witches. In fact let's not start....


Besides your stance on opening your mind is very very weak. Mind receptiveness is not what causes things to happen. Heart receptiveness does coupled with actions.

Bros u are doomed if u believe that the devil is powerful
Hhaahahhahahaha

Did The devil appear to Jesus and tempted him?

It was all questions that popped up in his mind, if Jesus didn't know the tricks he would have fallen for it and the devil will use that to manipulate him.

The devil works using tricks, tricks and lies.

He has no power, I mean nothing.

Without human beings his tricks wont be successful.

There is no place in the bible that portrays the devil to be powerful abeg ooo

Anyone who says the devil is powerful is a devil worshippers

Stop glorifying the devil, he is a dunce

Zionista:


If you can point out what's not correct, then that will be a good place to start. When the light of the Father of Light beams on you, your orientation, understanding and level of command changes. It is real, my brother.


If you can just humble yourself and receive Him, you'll experience all round rest even in the midst of the seeming chaos in the world today.

Now I'm sure you haven't read my post you quoted first to see how mutually exclusive they are to each other

donnie:


You do, not create a doctrine out of experiences. The bible is the foundation for all church doctrine, not our experiences. And just so you know this man of God is not a novice, WATCH...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTnS-ihnxFM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwKN6l8Rxlw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbg9dJNa_1M

Of course you don't create a doctrine out of experience but experience is obtained only when you put your faith to work.

Jesus didn't explain to us how to heal the sick or cast out demons. By faith you do it and you acquire spiritual experience.

The bible never mentioned the spirit of Homosexuality or Kleptomania or Nymphomania...but we know from the scriptures that we have spirits of infirmity, legion, spirit of fear, unclean spirit, dumb spirit etc

Are these the total list/catalogue of spirits that exist?

Jesus said "what is your name" and the demon said "I am legion, for we are many"! This is the first and the last tile we heared of the name legion in the bible. Modern day Christians would have gone against Jesus saying " there is no demon by the name legion!".

That is what some of you do.

Pastor Chris actually balanced it at the end that "this is a spiritual reality of some people"... through ignorance, immaturity or they inherited it.

engrelvis:
in body of Christ there r different soldiers.pastor Chris belong to d teaching group.others belong to deliverance group etc.nobody is glorifying satan.d greatest trick is for him(satan) to make u believe he is nt there.a demon possess person can suppress it with word of God but believe me is still there . Jesus Christ said he has given us power to step upon serpent n scorpion n cast out demons n principalities.holy spirit is our teachers.

You obviously didn't watch those videos, cos if you did, there'd be no need for this your preaching.

Oga too much of all these big big books and grammar. Don't coman crase here o!
And mark you, despte that some humans have lost their way, God remains God!

CuteMadridista:


Yahweh is a confusuonist, story of the tower of babel shows this

also Christianity is a confused religion with over 30,000 different sects

From the very beginning, Christians have split and diverged and disagreed about matters of extreme consequence, and matters that seem (on the face of it) totally trivial. For close to 1,500 years the chief hobby of Christendom seemed to be finding reasons to murder other Christians, and to this day thousands of Christian variations exist, many of which are utterly incompatible and "heretical" to each other's point of view. From Arianism to "Mariolotry", from thefilioque, to anti-trinitarian Oneness Pentecostalism, from hardline
feeneyism to Christian Universalism, from Quietism to televangelists ... any doctrinal standpoint held by one Christian group is guaranteed to be held in contempt by other (ostensibly) fellow Christians.

Yet every last one of them bows their knees before the Father, every last one of them believes that Christ dwells in their hearts and that they are strengthened by the power of this Spirit. Every last one of them"knows" that they are correct and everyone else is wrong. They alone are "filled up by the fullness of God." They can "feel it in their hearts".

"By their fruits you will know them," wrote the unknown author(s) of the book we call Matthew, and those words are quite right. The fruits of Christianity have always been discord among themselves, dehumanization of others and mutual persecution over whatever passes for heresy at that time and place. "A good tree cannot bear bad fruit" applies wonderfully to Christianity. By that very standard, the tree of Christianity is rotten to the core and more prickly than a cactus. It is evident and obvious that there is no "still, small voice" guiding Christians, that the Bible is wrong when it promises to reveal the truth to believers ... because regardless of one's belief, there are millions upon millions of other Christians who are convinced of that belief's incorrectness, convinced that the Holy Spirit has lit their path to truth (and likely think said "heretics" deserve eternal punishment to boot despite the fact that they are all supplicants to the same Lord).

donnie:



Ignorance makes people talk trash; watch this and correct yourself...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTnS-ihnxFM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwKN6l8Rxlw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbg9dJNa_1M

I wish you tell me of your own experience rather than throwing another mans experience into my face.

If you have done deliverance to a point where you can say categorically that spiritual husbands do not exist, I will take you serious.

Maestro21:


Your problem is you cannot read. Simple.

You are not teaching anything new. Demons exist and Pastor said that in the video. What he disagreed with was the notion of spiritual husband or wife. It is unscriptural.

Yes, a demon can decide to manifest in a certain way but that does not mean the manifestation is now a doctrine. That is the error.

There is no such thing as a deliverance ministry. Except you have written your own bible.

u r d one dat cannot read .we r ving a robust argument here. U can make ur point without being insultive.back to d argument.who told u we r nt suppose to v deliverance ministry? Like I said earlier there r different ministry in d body of Christ. Some r gud in prophecy,some teaching,others evangelism etc.because pastor Chris said something so I cannot question it .at my age (45) n exposure dats nonsense.by God grace I v been in Christian faith over 20yrs.i spend 5yrs with Christ embassy.i was a cell leader.i was among d engineer dat designed one of their churches in Benin in early 2000

TolaTosin:




We all operate from different realms anyone who's faith can not carry his teachings should leave it.

See there are people if u don't give them olive oil, it is as though they is no God.

Some if they go to church and the pastor didn't tell them that a witch is his problem, they will just feel God was not in church.

May God help us.

Personally I have found out that it beings with the mind, if u open ur mind to operations of demons that is what you will get.

If you open ur mind to sin, that is what you will get.

@shadeyinka, even without going to church, if your keep your mind clean, nothing will happen to you.

@davep

No witch can stop ur progress, it is something that I have tested.

It all begins with the mind, the devil has no power, quote me anywhere.

I agree with all you said except the bolded. Those who are pastors should preach the whole counsel of God so those who are bound can be free. But no, many deliverance ministers will rather continue their "work", charging fees for counselling, consultation, assignment and deliverance. We know these things.

No preacher can deliver a person better than Jesus would. If you cast out the devil, it can just roam around and return later to posses the person. But the WORD does a permanent job!

TolaTosin:




We all operate from different realms anyone who's faith can not carry his teachings should leave it.

See there are people if u don't give them olive oil, it is as though they is no God.

Some if they go to church and the pastor didn't tell them that a witch is his problem, they will just feel God was not in church.

May God help us.

Personally I have found out that it beings with the mind, if u open ur mind to operations of demons that is what you will get.

If you open ur mind to sin, that is what you will get.

@shadeyinka, even without going to church, if your keep your mind clean, nothing will happen to you.

@davep

No witch can stop ur progress, it is something that I have tested.

It all begins with the mind, the devil has no power, quote me anywhere.

There was I time I used to believe that a christian cannot be barren until I saw couples with greater faith and devotion than mine going years without children.

Its easy to quote scriptures. The application is most people problems.

Some churches I know used to teach that the minimum number of years a Christian should live is 70. Until yong men and women began to die in the church. Now, they have revised their doctrine.

Spiritual Experience is Faith at work!

If you have not put your own faith to work, how would you know that "a slap in Jesus Name" can chase out high blood pressure. LOL!

I can speak from experience of my own spiritual battles as a matured Christian and my victories in Christ. I don't pretend that evil does not befall children of God. And when it does, the evil is certainly not of God

NwaAmaikpe:


So who are the women I have sex with in my dream?

They are called succubus (female) and incubus (male)

TolaTosin:


Bros u are doomed if u believe that the devil is powerful
Hhaahahhahahaha

Did The devil appear to Jesus and tempted him?

It was all questions that popped up in his mind, if Jesus didn't know the tricks he would have fallen for it and the devil will use that to manipulate him.

The devil works using tricks, tricks and lies.

He has no power, I mean nothing.

Without human beings his tricks wont be successful.

There is no place in the bible that portrays the devil to be powerful abeg ooo

Anyone who says the devil is powerful is a devil worshippers

Stop glorifying the devil, he is a dunce

really? This are the kind of talks that are a follow up from being seared like with a hot iron.


smh@you. May the Lord open your eyes to the reality around you both physically and spiritually.


With all bible scriptures right before you..... and you can still say this crap?


So I see a lion ready to devour, and I'll just turn my back and say "oh that's a goat, can't hurt Nada"

Is that faith?

So if you see it as something else, it now means that's exactly what it is.


The devil has been deceiving right before Adam came about so here is my conclusion about how you think..... You aren't a Christian. simple.


You give credence to the fact that the devil's power is as a result of humans ascribing him such power? hahahahhahahahahaha


May God have mercy on you.


Please who else is a scripture person here? someone needs serious school abeg. This is one of the shallowest defences I've heard regarding talks on the scriptures in a decade.... Sorry I crept by.

Oluwa sanu WA o.

donnie:


I agree with all you said except the bolded. Those who are pastors should preach the whole counsel of God so those who are bound can be free. But no, many deliverance ministers will rather continue their "work", charging fees for counselling, consultation, assignment and deliverance. We know these things.

No preacher can deliver a person better than Jesus would. If you cast out the devil, it can just roam around and return later to posses the person. But the WORD does a permanent job!

Pastor may just be a title

Some pastor preach what they where taught ...

Not all pastors have grown in the knowledge of the word of God

shadeyinka:

I wish you tell me of your own experience rather than throwing another mans experience into my face.

If you have done deliverance to a point where you can say categorically that spiritual husbands do not exist, I will take you serious.

My friend, casting out devils is the right of every Christian. It's a regular occurrence which we do not need to celebrate and put on camera.

So says the Jerry curl man who also said masturbation is not a sin and is a divorcee

xynerise:
Seconded...I dont believe that shiit exist. Unless of course you made a covenant with the Devil to be your spouse

I was actually like you..till I got to the north.. when I say a girl talk like a man...as in a man voice so strong..he wud say they should leave the girl alone..u need to see it sir.

Maestro21:



Was John the Baptist's mum (Elizabeth) barren because of spiritual husband?[center][/center]

What about Sarah (Abraham's wife?)

Therein lies the danger with making doctrines out of experiences.

Did I ever say or insinuate that all barrenness were demonic affliction? Don't put words into my mouth.

If Jesus cast out the spirit of infirmity from a woman bent double, does it mean that all hunch backs have the spirit of inheritances.

I use the example of barrenness from the point of view of the scriptures and our experiences.

[

b]Deuteronomy 7:14[/b]
Thou shalt be blessed above all people: there shall not be male or female barren among you, or among your cattle.

Have you seen barren spiritually mature members of Christ embassy?
If yes, why have they remain barren for so long is the question you are to answer!

daveP:
If a pastor told you so, then I'll call that deception.


The devil is powerful. He can hinder, stop, cause delay, injure beings, etc.

The bible all through proves this and we haven't choice than to agree that he is a powerful being.


Don't underrate him atall. Rather we can enter the realm of a greater power when we are now into Christ to which every knee bows. Now that's the big big difference. Doesn't mean he isn't powerful. His power is just simply trumped by a higher, intact the highest power. By default we that are now sons can now operate in that realm. Does that make him without power? no.


Bottom line. Don't underrate him. The boldness that he thought of tempting Christ in human form shows that he is daring. and Life teaches us to not underrate such persons.


The devil's craft of deception is way way more higher and stronger than his craft for doing evil!!!


The bible talks about witches. In fact let's not start....


Besides your stance on opening your mind is very very weak. Mind receptiveness is not what causes things to happen. Heart receptiveness does coupled with actions.

Gbam God bless you for saying my mind

shadeyinka:

There was I time I used to believe that a christian cannot be barren until I saw couples with greater faith and devotion than mine going years without children.

Its easy to quote scriptures. The application is most people problems.

Some churches I know used to teach that the minimum number of years a Christian should live is 70. Until yong men and women began to die in the church. Now, they have revised their doctrine.

Spiritual Experience is Faith at work!

If you have not put your own faith to work, how would you know that "a slap in Jesus Name" can chase out high blood pressure. LOL!

I can speak from experience of my own spiritual battles as a matured Christian and my victories in Christ. I don't pretend that evil does not befall children of God. And when it does, the evil is certainly not of God

when u grow up in the spirit, there will be nothing like demon oppression, get it bro


Don't mix it up.

Abraham had a one on one relationship with God but had a child later in age.


Today being barren has a lot of factors which are not spiritual.

No Pastor is gifted or anointed (specialize) in all areas of Christian ministry.
Oyakhilome making such claim is ignorant of him, Pastor or no Pastor.
He can't be authority in all spiritual matters.

funny

JERRY1925:


I was actually like you..till I got to the north.. when I say a girl talk like a man...as in a man voice so strong..he wud say they should leave the girl alone..u need to see it sir.

I never doubted evil is real...but spirit spouse is what you ask for. They just don't come to you

chukslawrence:
Who is a liar between Baba Adeboye and Ogbeni Chris?

Both re liars quoting man written scripture.

Hostel:
when annointing is no more effective many preacher started falling into error and saying rubbish..You said there is no demon bcux you lacks power to cast out demons...I just pity people following this blind servant of satan.

And who says he doesn't cast out demons? There is a difference between a demon and a spiritual spouse.

Maestro21:


Because there is no such thing as it. A demon will say anything just to make himself look powerful.

One demon can be inside someone and the demon will say we are a thousand or I am the Prince of Persia. Funny things like that.

What is the name of the demon Jesus cast out from the mad man of Gadarene?

Legion!

"My name is legion, for we are many.."

And Jesus said, liar! A demon will say any thing in the name of deliverance Abi!?

A demon says "I am her husband...I make love to her every night..."
And your response is "its a lie, there is no such thing as spiritual husband"
And in reality, this woman says she was daily molested in her dreams by a giant man!

Judge now!
Even Pastor Chris balanced it at the end of the message if you listened to it ("it is a spiritual reality for some people".

If it is a spiritual reality, then of exists!

NwaAmaikpe:



So who are the women I have sex with in my dream?

ask your village people, they have the answer to your question.

you might have said several things, but I'm flabbergasted that someone that claims to be a student of the scriptures come and tell me otherwise.



See this is an extension if the faith doctrine which is being abused to an Everest like level.

but the shocker is the very champion of this faith doctrine took his time to describe who the devil is. And how he operates.


Pls someone that is very crafty is that person a dunce. someone that have been in the game of deception, is that one a dunce. someone that keeps making the mighty to fall and people to turn from God for thousands of years back till date, is that one a dunce? Very laughable and saddening at the same time.

I'm I hyping the devil? Maybe, Maybe not. My Bible says that's who he is, and it backs it up with history inside of it. Does it mean I should be afraid of him? atall, I shouldn't.


Paul talked like a military guy when addressing issues of spiritual warfare.


Normal day to day military strategies shows that you must know you enemy's strengths and weaknesses. Not undermine them.

that's not faith, that's brainwashing. serious one.


I've never come across this before.


"Even the devil goes about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he will devour"

No rest for this guy called devil.


He is crafty and he doesn't rest. So can we give him the tag "hardworking"?


Ahhh. A pity.

The late R. W Schambach and Lester Sumrall were one of the best preachers to focus on who the devil really is. giving him his credits and etc, so we know who we are up against. Then they now entered into the realm of defeating him cos of who we have @Jesus....


Not some crappy teaching by one mentor that tells me to undermine the devil cos he's failed at the cross etc.