shadeyinka:

There was I time I used to believe that a christian cannot be barren until I saw couples with greater faith and devotion than mine going years without children.

Its easy to quote scriptures. The application is most people problems.

Some churches I know used to teach that the minimum number of years a Christian should live is 70. Until yong men and women began to die in the church. Now, they have revised their doctrine.

Spiritual Experience is Faith at work!

If you have not put your own faith to work, how would you know that "a slap in Jesus Name" can chase out high blood pressure. LOL!

I can speak from experience of my own spiritual battles as a matured Christian and my victories in Christ. I don't pretend that evil does not befall children of God. And when it does, the evil is certainly not of God

my brother who never c Na dey talk anyhow.with my experience in Christian journey n faith u cannever know God fully.never.where understanding ends is where another one start.am a twin .Infact let me nt talk.what v these guys seen in life ? .I was somewhere outside d country.i stayed with a lovely family.unfortunately one of their daughter was possessed.she was normal church girl.very zealous in d word until a deliverance minister came to visit.she started manifesting .it took 2wks to deliver dat girl .is nt enough to study d word of God for some people to b set free.dat is point am trying to make here

NwaAmaikpe:


So who are the women I have sex with in my dream?

nwannem I dey feel u, my bro na spiritual Ashawo them be.

daveP:
really? This are the kind of talks that are a follow up from being seared like with a hot iron.


smh@you. May the Lord open your eyes to the reality around you both physically and spiritually.


With all bible scriptures right before you..... and you can still say this crap?


So I see a lion ready to devour, and I'll just turn my back and say "oh that's a goat, can't hurt Nada"

Is that faith?

So if you see it as something else, it now means that's exactly what it is.


The devil has been deceiving right before Adam came about so here is my conclusion about how you think..... You aren't a Christian. simple.


You give credence to the fact that the devil's power is as a result of humans ascribing him such power? hahahahhahahahahaha


May God have mercy on you.


Please who else is a scripture person here? someone needs serious school abeg. This is one of the shallowest defences I've heard regarding talks on the scriptures in a decade.... Sorry I crept by.

Oluwa sanu WA o.

Your problem is that you grew up with this doctrine.

Hahhahhahahhaha

Unlearn that poo u were taught.


Or show me where in the bible that indicates or slightly portrays the devil as powerful.

U r a learner and the devil will continue to torment you until u know he is powerless

alfseth:
Gbam God bless you for saying my mind

May God Sama you with wealth and blessings, peace of mind for understanding the scriptures as it said and not what a mentor somewhere says.

Maestro21:


You are right and my prayer is that many of Gods children will come up hither.

Something funny happened when Jesus cast out the demon from that boy who was foaming in the mouth and trying to dip himself inside a fire.

Jesus commanded the "deaf and dumb" spirit to come out even though the signs the boy was displaying were more violent and destructive than the name Jesus called the demon will suggest.

If it were today, some people will bring out a whole doctrine on the demon of fire and destruction and teach that anyone who behaves like the boy in the story has it. Whereas, it was a deaf and dumb spirit.

This is the danger of teaching experiences as the word of God.

northvietnam:



Not always

Not all sex in the dream conclude that a person is demonized, however, if the frequency is up to once in two months, there is a reason to be concerned

Sex in a dream I know cannot be from the Holy Spirit. If it isn't from the Holy Spirit, from who?

Sex in the dream signifies an exchange of sex (in the spiritual ) for something of value in your life.

Does God still speak to us in dreams? Yes
Even unbelievers get messages in dreams!

Of course, If you are Born Again, you have the power and authority to cast them out. However some are stubborn and may require persistence.

I believe strongly in self deliverance for a christian who is mature. If you need assistance see your pastor but the best is to drive them out by yourself

NwaAmaikpe:



So who are the women I have sex with in my dream?

Nobody! You didn't have sex with anybody. You didn't dream! You didn't even sleep. You are not yourself! It is all illusion!

He is spot on.

MightySparrow:
Nobody! You didn't have sex with anybody. You didn't dream! You didn't even sleep. You are not yourself! It is all illusion!

Khayri:
There are spiritual wife and husbands and if not taken care of can become a big problem to the person who has it. Some spiritual spouse are not harmful though instead they protect the person while some are harmful and will cause you disappointments, failed marriages/relationship cause your partner to cheat and hate you for no reason, make your partner lose affection for you, in fact spiritual spouse is a very big issue that if not taken care of if you even do charm of prosperity, the effects will be weak because they will block it same with witches and wizard if one does not clear that aspect of life, they will become very serious problem and a person might struggle and struggle without ever realising the problem throughout their life.

That's why some people remain gatekeeper, house boy, local mechanic, prostitutes for the rest of their lives.

my brother, may God bless you, I pray people understand that most pastors preach from their background.
If Pastor Chris father didn't practice idolatry or serve mermaids Spirit, many of his members fathers, did?
Some even doge and go to MFM for prayer sections.
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Please if you are a victim get born again and be free.
It can turn some people into homosexuality.

Ladyhippolyta88:
He backed them with proof have you seen a spirit wife or husband before physically or mere say?

Unfounded question? no Strength to this question.

who sees a spirit before he can conclude that it's a spirit?

Answer me and I'll withdraw.

engrelvis:
my brother who never c Na dey talk anyhow.with my experience in Christian journey n faith u cannever know God fully.never.where understanding ends is where another one start.am a twin .Infact let me nt talk.what v these guys seen in life ? .I was somewhere outside d country.i stayed with a lovely family.unfortunately one of their daughter was possessed.she was normal church girl.very zealous in d word until a deliverance minister came to visit.she started manifesting .it took 2wks to deliver dat girl .is nt enough to study d word of God for some people to b set free.dat is point am trying to make here

There is a difference between going to church, or reading the bible and being spiritually sound as in having genuine fellowship with God.

A lot of members of the church who do deliverance weekly are still possessed.

Some hold deliverance on the same thing, why didn't the first deliverance work.

I bet u if that girl visit TB Joshua , she will manifest again.

Y ?

Because, she would have exposed herself again to be possessed.

Pastor Chris says, you can stop the oppression yourself,

shadeyinka:

That's why I said give thanks!

I used to be a victim (so, I understand).

If you haven't done "self deliverance" because of certain issues for some times, you won't understand.

Let me ask you a direct question:
Have you ever seen a zealous and committed married couple member of Christ Embassy who is barren?

Is their barrenes a result of faithlessness, unbelievers or ignorance? (If you've met one)

Barreness is not from God. He has already said "Be Fruitful." It is to us according to our faith.

"Ye shall no the truth and the truth shall make you free."

bloodofthelamb:


Bros if anyone is in union with Christ, he is a new creation. The problem today is we have so many unbelieving believers calling themselves Christians.

A believer is no more from the lineage of his biological father. Hence, has no part in the generational curse in his family.

Now a man inherited sickle cell anaemia genes from his parent. He gets born again and automatically the sickle cell anaemia disappears. He is a new creature OLD things have passed away behold ALL things have become new!

Is this how it works?

Is there no difference between a mans body, soul and spirit?

When a man gets born again, is his body also born again? Is his soul born again? Isn't he required to renew his mind (soul) by the word of God?

Let me ask you a question:
Is homosexuality a demonic problem or a genetic factor?
If it is demonic, when a homosexual gets born again, does his sexual attraction to people of same sex disappear instantaneously?
If it doesn't, why does he still have to fight and resist his temptations?

Anyone who says there is nothing like a spirit husband or spirit wife is an ignorant and totally blind and knows nothing about spiritual warfare.

bloodofthelamb:


Barreness is not from God. He has already said "Be Fruitful." It is to us according to our faith.

"Ye shall no the truth and the truth shall make you free."

You are correct but my question was

Have you ever seen a zealous and committed married couple member of Christ Embassy who is barren?

Is their barrenes a result of faithlessness, unbelieve or ignorance? (If you've met one)

daveP:
May God Sama you with wealth and blessings, peace of mind for understanding the scriptures as it said and not what a mentor somewhere says.

AMEN my bro in christ

shadeyinka:


What is the name of the demon Jesus cast out from the mad man of Gadarene?

Legion!

"My name is legion, for we are many.."

And Jesus said, liar! A demon will say any thing in the name of deliverance Abi!?

A demon says "I am her husband...I make love to her every night..."
And your response is "its a lie, there is no such thing as spiritual husband"
And in reality, this woman says she was daily molested in her dreams by a giant man!

Judge now!
Even Pastor Chris balanced it at the end of the message if you listened to it ("it is a spiritual reality for some people".

If it is a spiritual reality, then of exists!

So by conclusion, he is a confusionist himself to speak from two sides of his mouth?


That video is the evidence, and in a law court, that would get him the tag of being confused.

Free the Sheeples bursted tithing, a doctor not too long ago bursted stephalocacus and now Chris Oyak bursted spiritual husband/wife. hmmmmm na wa ooo

engrelvis:
my brother who never c Na dey talk anyhow.with my experience in Christian journey n faith u cannever know God fully.never.where understanding ends is where another one start.am a twin .Infact let me nt talk.what v these guys seen in life ? .I was somewhere outside d country.i stayed with a lovely family.unfortunately one of their daughter was possessed.she was normal church girl.very zealous in d word until a deliverance minister came to visit.she started manifesting .it took 2wks to deliver dat girl .is nt enough to study d word of God for some people to b set free.dat is point am trying to make here

Of course you are correct.
When a person has not gone beyond his family house, he thinks his fathers house is the tallest in the world


A lot of them speak only from the experience of Pastor Chris. They have never activated their faith to do somen of these works.

I used to wonder why some deliverance took several sessions. Didn't Jesus just speak a word and demons vamoose? Until I saw that its just like healing. How come many times our "be healed in Jesus name " has to be said a thousand times before physical healings manifest!

And some will now come here to talk theory!

TolaTosin:


Your problem is that you grew up with this doctrine.

Hahhahhahahhaha

Unlearn that poo u were taught.


Or show me where in the bible that indicates or slightly portrays the devil as powerful.

U r a learner and the devil will continue to torment you until u know he is powerless

smh at your thinking. I've challenged my pastor as a Lil kid cos he was saying stuff that weren't scripturally backed up. so you have no idea of what doctrine I believe or not. Such a hasty generalization. keep it up.


How about we start with Daniel's delayed answer to prayer for 21days by the prince of Persia aka Mr devil?


Prince of Persia delayed an angel and for 21days until the topmost angel had to come clear the way....


Should I go further. cos in this same bible you claim to know are allllll the answers I'd used to show you that you know Nada about what you carry. And that's exactly what the devil wants. He doesn't want Christians to know the word, so they would bask in ignorance; an extension of the very crafty he's a legend for.... deception via ignorance.

flokii:


Can cause a guy or lady to remain single for life.. even tho they are cute and all that.

Funny thing is.. the cute ones usually have spiritual partners.
The bond takes God to break.

Yes o, is only God can break the bond. I am a victim tried every spiritual work i can think of black, white it will go for some time and come back.

Mine started visiting at the age of 15yrs molest me, beat me, pamper me to the point he follows me around and i will.feel someone following thinking a friend trying to sneak on me but by.the time i look back hoping to catch that person i will see nothing.

That happens for a longtime but suddenly i dontfeel his present anymore only for men of God or ppl that havespiritual eye to be asking who is that man following u on a different occasion.

I am in my thirties now God arrested him for me with evidence. How do i know ? my dreams gives me prove and i received spiritual message that it is over.

So if any pastor saying nothing like spirit husband or wife is not true only a victim can tell u is not a child play.

TolaTosin:
when u grow up in the spirit, there will be nothing like demon oppression, get it bro


Don't mix it up.

Abraham had a one on one relationship with God but had a child later in age.


Today being barren has a lot of factors which are not spiritual.

No body has said that a spiritually matured person can be demonized. If he is, he may be matured in so many Ares but not the area of spiritual victory in Christ.

I know what the scriptures say about barrenness:

The question I ask is:

Have you ever seen a zealous and committed married couple member of Christ Embassy who is barren?

Is their barrenes a result of faithlessness, unbelieve or ignorance? (If you've met one)


Theory and practicals sometimes look conflicting. However, practicals help is understand theory better. Isn't it?

shadeyinka:

You are correct but my question was

Have you ever seen a zealous and committed married couple member of Christ Embassy who is barren?

Is their barrenes a result of faithlessness, unbelieve or ignorance? (If you've met one)

Being a zealous church goer does not guarantee that someone has faith now... This is the work of God, that ye believe in Christ Jesus.

shadeyinka:

It isn't like that.

Just give thanks to God for your own freedom. Some people were born into bondage.

Its like inheriting your fathers will.

Give thanks. A man who never traveled will think his fathers farm is the biggest in the whole world

All that I know and believe is Jesus as my spiritual Father, husband and my spiritual everything. Every other thing, I have no connection with and I don't believe they exist in me. My covenant is with God and that's it.

donnie:



My friend, casting out devils is the right of every Christian. It's a regular occurrence which we do not need to celebrate and put on camera.

I don't believe in the drama people are televising in the name of deliverance. Like you said, every child of God can cast out demons in the same way that every child of God can raise the dead or heal the sick.

My problem is with people who trivialize "healing the sick" as children's bread while never going out to do it.
In the process of doing it, their theology is corrected.

How come almost non of Christ embassy members will enter the Hospital to heal ALL the sick?

Because theory and practicals are different.

If you have never cast out a demon from anyone, you can't use Pastor Chris experience as yours. When you have come across a few demons, your understanding of your theology will deepen.

Khayri:
There are spiritual wife and husbands and if not taken care of can become a big problem to the person who has it. Some spiritual spouse are not harmful though instead they protect the person while some are harmful and will cause you disappointments, failed marriages/relationship cause your partner to cheat and hate you for no reason, make your partner lose affection for you, in fact spiritual spouse is a very big issue that if not taken care of if you even do charm of prosperity, the effects will be weak because they will block it same with witches and wizard if one does not clear that aspect of life, they will become very serious problem and a person might struggle and struggle without ever realising the problem throughout their life.

That's why some people remain gatekeeper, house boy, local mechanic, prostitutes for the rest of their lives.

This your postulation weaken me.

shadeyinka:


Really!?
How many deliverance service have you attended?
How many D monized have you seen manifest?

I don't understand what u r saying!

I agree that there is nothing like spirit wife or spirit husband!!

daveP:
smh at your thinking. I've challenged my pastor as a Lil kid cos he was saying stuff that weren't scripturally backed up. so you have no idea of what doctrine I believe or not. Such a hasty generalization. keep it up.


How about we start with Daniel's delayed answer to prayer for 21days by the prince of Persia aka Mr devil?


Prince of Persia delayed an angel and for 21days until the topmost angel had to come clear the way....


Should I go further. cos in this same bible you claim to know are allllll the answers I'd used to show you that you know Nada about what you carry. And that's exactly what the devil wants. He doesn't want Christians to know the word, so they would bask in ignorance; an extension of the very crafty he's a legend for.... deception via ignorance.

God bless you again i'm lifted by this reply people (some christians) dont read diar Bible to back up faith "underestimate the devil"one of the greatest harm a christian can do to his/her spiritual lyf

TolaTosin:


There is a difference between going to church, or reading the bible and being spiritually sound as in having genuine fellowship with God.

A lot of members of the church who do deliverance weekly are still possessed.

Some hold deliverance on the same thing, why didn't the first deliverance work.

I bet u if that girl visit TB Joshua , she will manifest again.

Y ?

Because, she would have exposed herself again to be possessed.

Pastor Chris says, you can stop the oppression yourself,

my brother u r missing d point.nobody is saying being spiritually n words sound deos nt drive demons away.d point am making from experience is there r some stubborn demons just reading word of God won't drive way because of d way dey came in .u need a higher anointing to uproot dem.after d deliverance u now need to study d word meditate n pray to fill dat void.however some Christian r fortunate dey dnt v dis problem.dat does nt mean is nt there .d video I watch show pastor Chris commanding d demons to leave.d congregation falling down deos nt mean d demons v left dem.n please nobody is glorifying satan.God has already given us power to overcome dem through dat precious name Jesus Christ.

Hapigirlxoxo:


All that I know and believe is Jesus as my spiritual Father, husband and my spiritual everything. Every other thing, I have no connection with and I don't believe they exist in me. My covenant is with God and that's it.

Great for you. Give thanks to God.

For some other people, their cases are like the man born blind and the disciples of Jesus said "Who sinned?"

Jesus replied, non but this happened that the Glory of God should be made manifest!

Incredible!

What do you have that has not been given to you by Gods Grace! Nothing.

Its like sickle cell anemia. Even when both parent are AS, youbwill find children born as AA. Pure grace

NwaAmaikpe:



So who are the women I have sex with in my dream?

It is just a dream. Maybe you are not having sex in real life and imaginatively,you have to release which happens to be while you are sleeping and half conscious.