Lukuluku69:


Pardon me, English is a borrowed Language for me, on the verse you quoted why did you leave out Your Messiah own words that Matthew 21:42-44 KJV
[42] Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
[43] Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
[44] And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.
Why did you leave this out?

The rejected stone the Jews rejected was Ishmael. The same became the head! This has been foretold in your Bible but you guys overlook it!

Originakalokalo:


Ishmael is the stone?

Lukuluku69:


Letter kills, follow the sense in it and close your mouth.

Originakalokalo:


You know nothing about the Bible sir.

Also, you pick the verses as though they were beans... your interpretations are just too funny.

Oga,

Please I want to go to bed..

You need to stop reading the Bible upside down...

Funny statement of the day.... "Ishmael was left out of the Bible because of jealousy "

That really got to me.

Good night sir.

Originakalokalo:


You know nothing about the Bible sir.

Also, you pick the verses as though they were beans... your interpretations are just too funny.

Oga,

Please I want to go to bed..

You need to stop reading the Bible upside down...

Funny statement of the day.... "Ishmael was left out of the Bible because of jealousy "

That really got to me.

Good night sir.

Lukuluku69:

Oga, go back to school. Go and learn Hebrew before you come online and talk nonsense.

Lukuluku69:

When you guys claimed Jesus was strung up, why did he not shout Yahweh, Yahweh? Did he forgot his father's name?

Lukuluku69:

You said "alah" in Hebrew means Oak Tree? Abi? Do you speak the Language. Are you Yoruba? What does IGBA means? It could mean Time, Calabash, Garden Egg, Twenty(20) etc. it depends on the tones and stress you put in the articulation in Pronouncing the Words.

Lukuluku69:

All that you posit above is nothing more than sophistry.

Lukuluku69:

Halleluyah means Praise Yah, Praise Yah ko, Praise Yo ni?
Carry your sophistry go Church, it can't work on me.

PeterChrist:


You mean the Hebrew school where you and your clerics gather around and try to doctor the Bible to your taste.
Well, I'll pass. I will advise you to stop consoling yourself with the lies about us that had been used to indoctrinate you. Wake up, the world is now a global village where you can contact several qualified experts in the Hebrew languages and check if their conviction aligns with yours.



Thou art confused. So just because the disciples fondly refer to their leader as "lord", we should now come to the conclusion that the disciples never knew the name of their leader as Jesus? Or just because someone referred to me as Peter, that means Feranmi is no longer my name despite the fact that both are my names?
Even kids don't reason the way you think.
Second, what about where Jesus recited the shema? The Greek word "kyrios" in the shema recited is a translation of which word if not YHWH?
Third, didn't they teach you in your 'Hebrew school' that the tetragrammaton predates the advent of our Lord Jesus Christ by many centuries?



Lol. How is that suppose to support your case and refute mine?
If the same word in Yoruba can have different meanings, then what gave you the licence that the Aramaic 'Eli' in the Bible is synonymous with the Arabic Allah preached by Muhammad in the 6th century?



Haha. The story of the pot and kettle comes to mind.



Wow! It seems you take pride in the fact that you are impervious to the truth. Every Biblical scholar I know of will say that "Halleluyah" means "Praise Yah" until you, a self-acclaimed scholar came with another sophisticated definition. So who is using sophistry here?
Well, our Lord says:
"... If you were blind, you would not be guilty of sin; but now that you claim you can see, your guilt remains." John 9:41

And that we should

"Leave them; they are blind guides. If a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit. " Matthew 15:14

PeterChrist:


You mean the Hebrew school where you and your clerics gather around and try to doctor the Bible to your taste.
Well, I'll pass. I will advise you to stop consoling yourself with the lies about us that had been used to indoctrinate you. Wake up, the world is now a global village where you can contact several qualified experts in the Hebrew languages and check if their conviction aligns with yours.



Thou art confused. So just because the disciples fondly refer to their leader as "lord", we should now come to the conclusion that the disciples never knew the name of their leader as Jesus? Or just because someone referred to me as Peter, that means Feranmi is no longer my name despite the fact that both are my names?
Even kids don't reason the way you think.
Second, what about where Jesus recited the shema? The Greek word "kyrios" in the shema recited is a translation of which word if not YHWH?
Third, didn't they teach you in your 'Hebrew school' that the tetragrammaton predates the advent of our Lord Jesus Christ by many centuries?



Lol. How is that suppose to support your case and refute mine?
If the same word in Yoruba can have different meanings, then what gave you the licence that the Aramaic 'Eli' in the Bible is synonymous with the Arabic Allah preached by Muhammad in the 6th century?



Haha. The story of the pot and kettle comes to mind.



Wow! It seems you take pride in the fact that you are impervious to the truth. Every Biblical scholar I know of will say that "Halleluyah" means "Praise Yah" until you, a self-acclaimed scholar came with another sophisticated definition. So who is using sophistry here?
Well, our Lord says:
"... If you were blind, you would not be guilty of sin; but now that you claim you can see, your guilt remains." John 9:41

And that we should

"Leave them; they are blind guides. If a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit. " Matthew 15:14

Lukuluku69:


Jews enter left the Holy Land as Captives, enter Europe as Slaves. Arabs left Mecca and enter ANY WHERE as CONQUERORS. If na you wey dey drag something with someone, won't you be jealous? Laugh all you want, that's the COLD HARD FACT OF HISTORY.

Lets do this often, cos I like it when I quote those Bible verse and the torture you go thru saying it is the Devil teaching me in your mind.

Originakalokalo:


You said you want us to do this again "because of the torture I go through when you quote the sscriptures "

I want to do this again because of the salvation of your soul... It is more important than winning any argument...

Mind you, you need to go back and read those scriptures you quoted.... you didn't even read most of them....

I had to point your attention to all your wrong interpretations... If you pick a verse, read two previous
Verse before and three after.... This is how to get a clear picture of the Bible....

I read the whole chapter where that verse is contained and cross reference to other chapters and verses. This is how I read the Bible.

You should do the same..


God will save your soul. I commit you into his hands.

God bless you.

Lukuluku69:


Worry about your own Soul before you think about others. You are responsible to yourself first and foremost. That said, I am sure of my Faith

I worship my Creator, His Commandments I keep, and my Neighbors I have love not doing to them what I won't receive from their hands. As

For my soul that you commit into His Hands, my Soul has always being in His Hands to do as He Wills.

What you are inviting me to, may it be far from me! To join the worship of a Man with that of my Creator? May it be FAR from me. You can go

On and wallow in the confusion that Paul created for you. My prayer and hope for you is that may you see the Light before your Time is up

Here.

May God let the scale of deceit and the web of Paul's lie come to an end in your life. (Amen)

Peace.

Originakalokalo:


One word?

Ignorance. .....mathew, mark Luke and John were not written by Paul.

The four gospel books confirmed Jesus miraculous birth, his miracles, death, resurrection and ascension to heaven.

These four books also told us that he is coming back.. The book of revelation affirms this....these are they foundation of the Christian faith...


Oh!!! Sorry.. I forgot that it was Paul that wrote these four gospel books and the book of revelation.

If all the books of Paul are removed,

The central message of the New Testament still stands...

You don't know that 99 percent of Paul's writings are old Testament books and extracts from the four gospel.

Your muslims even believe that Jesus is coming back...

Do you believe this?

Lukuluku69:


Can you show me where I said that? Or are you now lying for the Glory of God like Paul?

Originakalokalo:



It means STOP COMPLAINING.

I am not accusing you....

I am saying that Mathew, mark and Luke are books that contain everything a Christian believe in... (no one will actually remove the book of John because of you..)

So, stop complaining about the books of Paul.

The Bible and Christianity will survive without the books of Paul.

Lukuluku69:


Christianity will fall flat without the LIES of Paul. Everyone know that.

Originakalokalo:


Since everyone knows it, let's prove it here.

You don't get it do you?

The foundation of Christianity is Jesus birth, Jesus death, resurrection and ascension.it entails the fact that Jesus died for a sinner.

I don't need Paul's books to see this. Mathew, mark, Luke and John are enough.

So? How will Christianity fall flat without Paul's books?

Prove it here.

No wa for this man oooo

Lukuluku69:



2 Timothy 2:5-9 KJV
[5] And if a man also strive for masteries, yet is he not crowned, except he strive lawfully.
[6] The husbandman that laboureth must be first partaker of the fruits.
[7] Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things.
[8] Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:
[9] Wherein I suffer trouble, as an evil doer, even unto bonds; but the word of God is not bound.

The above is one of Paul's Letters called Epistles. After saying some Meaningless stuff before, in Verse he hit you with 8] Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:

Telling you, the other Apostle who studied under Christ DID NOT teach this and that the "Raising from the Dead" is wholly Paul's Idea.

"And straightway he (Paul) preached Christ in the synagogues that he is the son of God.” (Acts 9:20)

As you can see again, Paul started the Literal Son of God Madness that's why the other Apostle were afraid of him because according to the

People: Acts 17:18 KJV[18] Then certain philosophers of the Epicureans, and of the Stoicks, encountered him. And some said, What will this babbler say? other some, He seemeth to be a setter forth of strange gods: because he preached unto them Jesus, and the resurrection.

You must have come across the term "Another Gospel" what it simply means, is that immediately Jesus left the Disciples, perhaps still dazed

By the effect of losing him, many stories abound. Some say, he was alive, some say he has passed on, they seems to see him anywhere and

Everywhere. Then stories and legends starts to grow around his personalities, his mission and life. That's why,

And if I may ask, what exactly is Christianity saying about Salvation? Until you believe that Jesus died for your Sins, salvation is not yours!

Now Paul says clearly 2 Timothy 2:8 KJV
[8] Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:

And also Acts 9:20 KJV
[20] And straightway he preached Christ in the synagogues, that he is the Son of God.

This was after he claimed that he saw a vision of Jesus on his way to Damascus. This incident took place some 12-13 years after the supposed

Crucifixion of Jesus. So, the time in between what are the other disciples Teaching?

Remember it was this same Paul that claimed bashfully that he REPRIMAND Peter for not eating with Gentiles? Peter, followed the commands

Of Jesus when he told them Matthew 10:5-7 KJV
[5] These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
[6] But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
[7] And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.

They were to wait patiently in Jerusalem until the Spirit of Truth comes! But Paul will have non of that, to the WHOLE WORLD he dreamt!

Now I ask you, if the Resurrection was Paul's Teaching, the Son of God was his, Preaching to the Gentile was his, if you take out those points

Can Christianity stand as you preach it today? Assaulting us all with John 3:16?

You see, Mathew, Mark and Luke were written long after Christ left. And redacted severally, when Pauline Version of Jesus Story won at the

End.

Yes, they contain words of and Deed of Jesus, as well as PIOUS FRAUDS here and there. If you don't mind I will post some for you to peruse.

Lukuluku69:



2 Timothy 2:5-9 KJV
[5] And if a man also strive for masteries, yet is he not crowned, except he strive lawfully.
[6] The husbandman that laboureth must be first partaker of the fruits.
[7] Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things.
[8] Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:
[9] Wherein I suffer trouble, as an evil doer, even unto bonds; but the word of God is not bound.

Lukuluku69:


The above is one of Paul's Letters called Epistles. After saying some Meaningless stuff before, in Verse he hit you with 8] Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:

Telling you, the other Apostle who studied under Christ DID NOT teach this and that the "Raising from the Dead" is wholly Paul's Idea.

Lukuluku69:


"And straightway he (Paul) preached Christ in the synagogues that he is the son of God.” (Acts 9:20)

As you can see again, Paul started the Literal Son of God Madness that's why the other Apostle were afraid of him because according to the

People: Acts 17:18 KJV[18] Then certain philosophers of the Epicureans, and of the Stoicks, encountered him. And some said, What will this babbler say? other some, He seemeth to be a setter forth of strange gods: because he preached unto them Jesus, and the resurrection.

Lukuluku69:


You must have come across the term "Another Gospel" what it simply means, is that immediately Jesus left the Disciples, perhaps still dazed

By the effect of losing him, many stories abound. Some say, he was alive, some say he has passed on, they seems to see him anywhere and

Everywhere. Then stories and legends starts to grow around his personalities, his mission and life. That's why,

Lukuluku69:


And if I may ask, what exactly is Christianity saying about Salvation? Until you believe that Jesus died for your Sins, salvation is not yours [/quote ]

Without Jesus there is no salvation... That's true, yes.

Because your sins are not forgiven you without the blood of Jesus.... Just as Yahweh would not forgive sins in the Old Testament without animal's blood.

Are you saved sir?

[quote author=Lukuluku69 post=76672895]

Now Paul says clearly 2 Timothy 2:8 KJV
[8] Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:

And also Acts 9:20 KJV
[20] And straightway he preached Christ in the synagogues, that he is the Son of God.

Lukuluku69:


This was after he claimed that he saw a vision of Jesus on his way to Damascus. This incident took place some 12-13 years after the supposed

Lukuluku69:

Crucifixion of Jesus. So, the time in between what are the other disciples Teaching?

Lukuluku69:

Remember it was this same Paul that claimed bashfully that he REPRIMAND Peter for not eating with Gentiles? Peter, followed the commands

Of Jesus when he told them Matthew 10:5-7 KJV
[5] These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
[6] But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
[7] And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.

They were to wait patiently in Jerusalem until the Spirit of Truth comes! But Paul will have non of that, to the WHOLE WORLD he dreamt!

Lukuluku69:

Now I ask you, if the Resurrection was Paul's Teaching, the Son of God was his, Preaching to the Gentile was his, if you take out those points.

Can Christianity stand as you preach it today? Assaulting us all with John 3:16?

You see, Mathew, Mark and Luke were written long after Christ left. And redacted severally, when Pauline Version of Jesus Story won at the

End.

Yes, they contain words of and Deed of Jesus, as well as PIOUS FRAUDS here and there. If you don't mind I will post some for you to peruse.

Originakalokalo:


You quoted my Bible here.... No issue.




Jesus himself told the Pharisee before he died that he is going to resurrect...

From John...

(John 2 )
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19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
21 But he spake of the temple of his body.

From Mathew..

" And said, This fellow said, I am able to destroy the temple of God, and to build it in three days."
(Matthew 26: 61)

Paul told the church in Corinth that the twelve disciples including Peter saw Jesus after ressurection ... Including other 500 ..

Your lies have been busted sir....see it here.

(1 Corinthians 15 )
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3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

5 And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:
" After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep."
(1 Corinthians 15: 6)



Your lies have been busted sir. Paul preached what he heard from Peter, the twelve and the 500...Read those verses up there very well.



Another propaganda....

This is where the word "another gospel came up"

" For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit,

which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him."
(2 Corinthians 11: 4)

Some people were preaching another Jesus different from the Jesus that reasurected.... The One he preached to the corinthians as I mentioned earlier.

This point of yours is also busted sir.

Lukuluku69:




They are deaf, dumb, and blind, so they return not (to the Right Path). Quran 2:18.

Originakalokalo:


This is the first Quran you quoted since we started this discussion 2 days ago. However, You have quoted Countess number of bible verses.

You read the Bible more than you read the Quran.

Again, I commit you into God's hands.