tctrills:

I am responsible for sins. I don't go about blaming others for my sinsll

Who subject us to our sinful state? Adam or God?

MaxInDHouse:


That is why, just as through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because they had all sinned—. Romans 5:12

Perhaps you think it's the blunders people are commiting now that's the problem!

Oga I will be judged for my sins not Adams sins. Adam would not be judge for my sins.

MaxInDHouse:

Please which is the doctrine of men?

*Only Jesus can save.
*Only adherents of Jesus' teachings are smart.
*God will not destroy smart people but fools.
*Whoever feels smart without Jesus is a liar.

You be real mumu!

😂

Aemmyjah:


Who subject us to our sinful state? Adam or God?

You subject yourself to sin when ever you choose to follow the evil one.
Anytime you resist evil, you do not subject yourself to sin

MaxInDHouse:


That is why, just as through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because they had all sinned—. Romans 5:12

Perhaps you think it's the blunders people are commiting now that's the problem!

God will only judge you for your sins. If Adam is responsible for your sins then you have nothing to worry about, keep commiting

MaxInDHouse:

Please which is the doctrine of men?

*Only Jesus can save.
*Only adherents of Jesus' teachings are smart.
*God will not destroy smart people but fools.
*Whoever feels smart without Jesus is a liar.

You be real mumu!

As usual you are the guesswork masters please provide just one scripture that teaches your nonsense.
Below are the words of Christ
Luke 16:8

8 And the lord commended the unjust steward, because he had done wisely: for the children of this world are in their generation wiser than the children of light.

tctrills:

You subject yourself to sin when ever you choose to follow the evil one.
Anytime you resist evil, you do not subject yourself to sin

Oga, enter bed go sleep

Aemmyjah:


Oga, enter bed go sleep

Lool. Don't worry, continue to blaming Adam for all your wickedness.

tctrills:

It shows that false teachings are everywhere.

Lol 😂
You fruitless and unreasonable arguements is what you call the true teachings 😂😂

cornelboy:

Lol 😂
You fruitless and unreasonable arguements is what you call the true teachings 😂😂

Even a mad man on the streets will tell you his words are of wisdom

cornelboy:

Lol 😂
You fruitless and unreasonable arguements is what you call the true teachings 😂😂

To you, everyone else is fruitless so your comments make no difference.

tctrills:

To you, everyone else is fruitless so your comments make no difference.

Lol 😂😂
Atheist and people like you don't sound reasonable to me.

Of course I have people don't argue blindly like you do.

Hope you know your 3 year old can't be compared to Adam 🤣🤣

Aemmyjah:


Even a mad man on the streets will tell you his words are of wisdom

Hmm that's true

cornelboy:

Lol 😂😂
Atheist and people like you don't sound reasonable to me.

Of course I have people don't argue blindly like you do.

Hope you know your 3 year old can't be compared to Adam 🤣🤣

Oga hypeman no problem.

tctrills:

Oga hypeman no problem.

Oga fruitless arguements well-done 🤣🤣

cornelboy:

Oga fruitless arguements well-done 🤣🤣

It wasn't fruitless as you think. I was able to teach and correct 5 of your JW marketers using the bible.
I was able to answer all their questions and resolve their concerns
Surely someone one there learnt something.
On the other hand none of you could find a single verse in the bible that supports your falsehoods.

tctrills:

It wasn't fruitless as you think. I was able to teach and correct 5 of your JW marketers using the bible.
I was able to answer all their questions and resolve their concerns
Surely someone one there learnt something.
On the other hand none of you could find a single verse in the bible that supports your falsehoods.

Lol 😂😂
With your unreasonable arguement?
I like the version of your pride o 😂

cornelboy:

Lol 😂😂
With your unreasonable arguement?
I like the version of your pride o 😂

With simple bible based points
If we give you the rest of the year to point out just 1 unreasonable statement I made, you wouldn't be able to come up with anything reasonable.
Meanwhile, I asked your brother to point out just one passage of scripture that says the knowledge of good and evil was not literal.
It's 4 days now and about 5 JW can't find such a verse.
Now who is making baseless arguments?

tctrills:

Oga I will be judged for my sins not Adams sins. Adam would not be judge for my sins.

You don't know the meaning of the judgement mentioned in the Bible, Satan, Adam and Eve have been judged already so when talking about people who has hope those three are no longer part of the hopeful ones.
As for Adam and Eve they're never coming back to life again after their death Satan is still alive presently because he wasn't created with flesh that can expire so God will destroy him.
I know you will say that's GUESSWORK but if you care to know where we got that check the list of names in the Bible book of Hebrews 11:4-34 there the first name recorded as one of those making God proud is Abel meaning Adam, Eve and Cain are gone forever never to be remembered during resurrection!

tctrills:

God will only judge you for your sins. If Adam is responsible for your sins then you have nothing to worry about, keep commiting

Ọ̀DẸ̀ you don't know the indepth meaning of sin walahi talahi.
When Jesus promised the thief Paradise you think it's simply because he repented shey?

For your information the errors committed by imperfect humans doesn't count before God because the situation we found ourselves is so choked that it's almost impossible not to sin that's why we have the undeserved kindness (grace) for forgiveness of our blunders.
Before you can genuinely repent you need to know why that deed is not beneficial to you and others around you failure to know this means you're still ignorant of your sin so it's impossible for you to stop commiting that same sin. But in the case of Adam and Eve they both knew God as their maker and often speak with Him one on one so there's no reason for them to doubt the one who gave them everything at their disposal unlike you who is told not to steal yet you're in need of that thing. That's the reason behind the grace we have otherwise all Adam's descendants are as good as dead from God's standpoint whether you commit or not! Luke 9:60 compare to Revelations 20:5

cornelboy:

Lol 😂😂
With your unreasonable arguement?
I like the version of your pride o 😂

He doesn't see it as pride even when there's no group of people with whom he is obeying some rules he has set his own personal rules and that's what he wants to base his judgement on therefore he's confused as to who is a sinner and who is not, to him since he is trying not to do what he view as bad he is not a sinner therefore he needs no set of rules binding on others as co-believers

THEY ATE GOOD AND EVIL AND SO SHOT THEMSELVES. THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE WISE BUT GOD WAS FASTER AND WISER. THEY BLEEP OFF.

MaxInDHouse:

Ọ̀DẸ̀ you don't know the indepth meaning of sin walahi talahi.
When Jesus promised the thief Paradise you think it's simply because he repented shey?

For your information the errors committed by imperfect humans doesn't count before God because the situation we found ourselves is so choked that it's almost impossible not to sin that's why we have the undeserved kindness (grace) for forgiveness of our blunders.
Before you can genuinely repent you need to know why that deed is not beneficial to you and others around you failure to know this means you're still ignorant of your sin so it's impossible for you to stop commiting that same sin. But in the case of Adam and Eve they both knew God as their maker and often speak with Him one on one so there's no reason for them to doubt the one who gave them everything at their disposal unlike you who is told not to steal yet you're in need of that thing. That's the reason behind the grace we have otherwise all Adam's descendants are as good as dead from God's standpoint whether you commit or not! Luke 9:60 compare to Revelations 20:5

Everything you have written here is false and not backed by scripture. The bible never indicated that the sun of Adam and Eve is greater than your sin or mine. Guesswork .
Again, when you said your errors don't count do you mean that yours sins don't matter? If that is what you mean just know that you are teaching the doctrine of the devil.

tctrills:

With simple bible based points
If we give you the rest of the year to point out just 1 unreasonable statement I made, you wouldn't be able to come up with anything reasonable.
Meanwhile, I asked your brother to point out just one passage of scripture that says the knowledge of good and evil was not literal.
It's 4 days now and about 5 JW can't find such a verse.
Now who is making baseless arguments?

Lol 😂 you that claimed that Adam was punished by death out of love 😂😂😂

cornelboy:

Lol 😂 you that claimed that Adam was punished by death out of love 😂😂😂

Yes and when you die it would be because God hates you.

tctrills:

Yes and when you die it would be because God hates you.

Lol 😂
The fact that everyone will die was not caused by God but Adam. We inherited it from Adam. God never planned for us to die. That's why the wicked and unrighteous will die forever whereas God will raise those that do his will on the future to live eternally.

So it doesn't matter whether God love me or hate me, we will all die.
In a nutshell, death is an evil thing brought by Adam but the loving God through his son brought us eternal life.

Hope you're noting that in a notebook 😂😂😂

tctrills:

Everything you have written here is false and not backed by scripture. The bible never indicated that the sun of Adam and Eve is greater than your sin or mine. Guesswork .
Again, when you said your errors don't count do you mean that yours sins don't matter? If that is what you mean just know that you are teaching the doctrine of the devil.

If you refuse to learn it's no one's fault!
I've noticed that with or without scriptural references you have sealed your heart never to accept the truth.

Adam committed the greatest sin ever in the history of mankind that's why Jesus was said to be equal with Adam {1Corinthians 15:45} as only Jesus' blood can remove Adamic sin whereas repentance is enough to reconcile with God for our own errors
No amount of sheep, goats, rams or cows can erase Adamic sin that each of us inherited {Psalms 49:7-9} those sacrifices were meant to show evidence of repentance for the sin you commit but as for the blood of Jesus that one is so great that all sin whether Adamic or the one you committed will be washed away by Christ' ransom sacrifice. John 1:29
That is why God promised to raise imperfect descendants of Adam who lived by conscience even though they don't know God's laws! Romans 2:14-15

cornelboy:

Lol 😂
The fact that everyone will die was not caused by God but Adam. We inherited it from Adam. God never planned for us to die. That's why the wicked and unrighteous will die forever whereas God will raise those that do his will on the future to live eternally.

So it doesn't matter whether God love me or hate me, we will all die.
In a nutshell, death is an evil thing brought by Adam but the loving God through his son brought us eternal life.

Hope you're noting that in a notebook 😂😂😂

He just love arguing blindly!

MaxInDHouse:

If you refuse to learn it's no one's fault!
I've noticed that with or without scriptural references you have sealed your heart never to accept the truth.

Adam committed the greatest sin ever in the history of mankind that's why Jesus was said to be equal with Adam {1Corinthians 15:45} as only Jesus' blood can remove Adamic sin whereas repentance is enough to reconcile with God for our own errors
No amount of sheep, goats, rams or cows can erase Adamic sin that each of us inherited {Psalms 49:7-9} those sacrifices were meant to show evidence of repentance for the sin you commit but as for the blood of Jesus that one is so great that all sin whether Adamic or the one you committed will be washed away by Christ' ransom sacrifice. John 1:29
That is why God promised to raise imperfect descendants of Adam who lived by conscience even though they don't know God's laws! Romans 2:14-15

I understand you think Adam committed the greatest sin but the scripture never said that. And no one would go to hell for Adams sin.
So yes, you are correct, I refuse to learn your falsehoods.
I choose to believe the bible and not you.
And come to think about it, you qouted 4 passages above but couldn't find any to show that Adam's sin is the worst sin ever.

MaxInDHouse:


He just love arguing blindly!

Because he doesn't agree with you.
Because he chooses to believe the bible and not you

tctrills:

Was that you again. You use 2 different accounts? This man!!!

+/- 4 monikers, that was his Maximus69 deactivated account

tctrills:

I understand you think Adam committed the greatest sin but the scripture never said that. And no one would go to hell for Adams sin.

Ọmọ, all those dying from the time of Abel till today are all in their graves (hell) due to Adamic sin! Romans 5:12