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Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:59pm On Dec 12, 2023
tctrills:

To God, death is not special.
Everyone gets to die.
It's just a separation of the body and the spirit.
The body is buried and the spirit goes back to him.
OLÓDO! cheesy

So from God's standpoint DEATH is not evil shey?
That's why you've always been arguing senselessly in your thread about knowing God and Jesus.
If Jesus is the image of the living God {Colossians 1:15} saying whoever has seen him has seen the father {John 14:9} and he cried bitterly due to the DEATH of his friend {John 11:35} despite having the power to raise him don't you know what that means?
Well it simply means God is sad when people die, yet you're saying it wasn't something evil that led Jesus to shed tears right?
Ọmọ humble yourself and learn! smiley
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by tctrills: 5:16pm On Dec 12, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

OLÓDO! cheesy

So from God's standpoint DEATH is not evil shey?
That's why you've always been arguing senselessly in your thread about knowing God and Jesus.
If Jesus is the image of the living God {Colossians 1:15} saying whoever has seen him has seen the father {John 14:9} and he cried bitterly due to the DEATH of his friend {John 11:35} despite having the power to raise him don't you know what that means?
Well it simply means God is sad when people die, yet you're saying it wasn't something evil that led Jesus to shed tears right?
Ọmọ humble yourself and learn! smiley
So no single verse in the bible calls death evil. It's your personal opinion even though it's not biblical.
Why did Jesus Christ cry at the death of his friend? We don't honestly know.
But I can suggest some reasons
1. He mourned with the bereaved family.
2. He missed his friend.
The bible never said why so let's just say the idea that death is evil is your opinion.
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by tctrills: 5:17pm On Dec 12, 2023
MaxInDHouse:




This man must be suffering from JW syndrome because according to tctrills he's saying God lied! cheesy
The JW believe that God lied when he taught 5hat Adam and Eve had no knowledge of good and evil.
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by tctrills: 5:19pm On Dec 12, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


There you go, it says the lake of Fire was PREPARED for evildoers so what if the evildoers repented will they still go there?
That's the question after all Satan has not been thrown there so he still have the chance to REPENT nah! cheesy
If the wicked repent, then their torment is no longer eternal
Rev 14.11

11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:20pm On Dec 12, 2023
tctrills:

Why did Jesus Christ cry at the death of his friend? We don't honestly know.
But I can suggest

The highlighted is GUESSWORK!
So quote the Bible because all of us know that tears from people during such event means bitterness of the heart.
Please no GUESSWORK! angry
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:22pm On Dec 12, 2023
tctrills:

The JW believe that God lied when he taught 5hat Adam and Eve had no knowledge of good and evil.
We said it's figurative not literal just as that man also said! smiley
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by tctrills: 5:22pm On Dec 12, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


The highlighted is GUESSWORK!
So quote the Bible because all of us know that tears from people during such event means bitterness of the heart.
Please no GUESSWORK! angry
You are correct, it's guesswork because the bible never stated why he cried. So the idea that it was because death is evil is your opinion. I just presented you with other equally valid opinions but all are guesswork. So please let's go back to sticking to facts.
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:23pm On Dec 12, 2023
tctrills:

If the wicked repent, then their torment is no longer eternal
Rev 14.11
11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
This doesn't answer the question.

Where did God said He can't forgive Satan? smiley
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by tctrills: 5:24pm On Dec 12, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

We said it's figurative not literal just as that man also said! smiley
Which bible verse says it's figurative and not literal. All you needed to do is to point to your source in the bible.
You would have saved us 3 days of arguing if only you pointed to your source. Or is this guesswork again angry grin grin grin grin
Was the death of Jesus Christ also figurative?
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:24pm On Dec 12, 2023
tctrills:

You are correct, it's guesswork because the bible never stated why he cried. So the idea that it was because death is evil is your opinion. I just presented you with other equally valid opinions but all are guesswork. So please let's go back to sticking to facts.
Facts revealed that when people die those shedding tears knows the dead and it's a sign of BITTERNESS.
Do you want to deny that? cheesy
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:26pm On Dec 12, 2023
tctrills:

Which bible verse says it's figurative and not literal. All you needed to do is to point to your source in the bible.
You would have saved us 3 days of arguing if only you pointed to your source. Or is this guesswork again angry grin grin grin grin
Was the death of Jesus Christ also figurative?
I don't have to do that i just want you to know that you're alone in that stupidity claiming Adam and Eve doesn't know what is BAD yet they were CURSED for doing what is BAD! cheesy
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by tctrills: 5:26pm On Dec 12, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

Facts revealed that when people die those shedding tears knows the dead and it's a sign of BITTERNESS.
Do you want to deny that? cheesy
So? I remember shedding tears when someone I loved was traveling out of the country.
Just because men are scared of death doesn't make it evil
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by tctrills: 5:28pm On Dec 12, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

I don't have to do that i just want you to know that you're alone in that stupidity claiming Adam and Eve doesn't know what is BAD yet they were CURSED for doing what is BAD! cheesy
First, you are a kid to think this is a popularity contest.
Second I am not alone, I am with the writer of Genesis and that's enough for me.
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by tctrills: 5:30pm On Dec 12, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

I don't have to do that i just want you to know that you're alone in that stupidity claiming Adam and Eve doesn't know what is BAD yet they were CURSED for doing what is BAD! cheesy
Oga we both know that no verse of scripture is on your side.
This is a doctrine made up by deceitful men with the intention to change the word of God. But if you were wise, you should have asked the idiots that taught you this nonsense to show you the relevant scriptural passages.
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by Aemmyjah(m): 5:32pm On Dec 12, 2023
tctrills:

Oh I get it, your problem is the word curse right?
From you questions, I see that your big concern is the punishment God placed upon Adam and Eve.
So I tried to explain to you that God's punishment is different from man's punishment.
I understand as a human, you look at death as the worst thing ever.
But to God, death is not special.
Everyone gets to die.
It's just a separation of the body and the spirit.
The body is buried and the spirit goes back to him.


Gid pronounced death cos he loved them shey?
Yes ir No?

Just yes or No?
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by tctrills: 5:36pm On Dec 12, 2023
Aemmyjah:



Gid pronounced death cos he loved them shey?
Yes ir No?

Just yes or No?
Boss, you have asked this question over 20 times.
Now again let me answer.
Does God love you?
Would you die one day?
Will you die because God stopped loving you?
Now you have your answer.
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:41pm On Dec 12, 2023
tctrills:

So? I remember shedding tears when someone I loved was traveling out of the country. Just because men are scared of death doesn't make it evil
Oh you're so dumb! undecided

Jesus cried along with others because his friend DIED.
Was Jesus bitter or happy?
Will God also be bitter or happy when His friends die? smiley
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:43pm On Dec 12, 2023
tctrills:

First, you are a kid to think this is a popularity contest. Second I am not alone, I am with the writer of Genesis and that's enough for me.
OK you're with the writer just that you can't answer questions from people who thinks the writer's statement is not literal shey? cheesy
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:45pm On Dec 12, 2023
tctrills:

Oga we both know that no verse of scripture is on your side.
This is a doctrine made up by deceitful men with the intention to change the word of God. But if you were wise, you should have asked the idiots that taught you this nonsense to show you the relevant scriptural passages.

You should have known that you're an idiot to say adults warned not to do something did it anyway yet they don't know that what they did is BAD! cheesy

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Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by tctrills: 5:52pm On Dec 12, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


You should have known that you're an idiot to say adults warned not to do something did it anyway yet they don't know that what they did is BAD! cheesy
You really think the writer of Genesis was an idiot bah?
So it doesn't matter their age sir. If the adult in this case doesn't have the knowledge of Good and evil, oga your point would not stand.
Again, what makes one an adult?

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Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by tctrills: 5:54pm On Dec 12, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

OK you're with the writer just that you can't answer questions from people who thinks the writer's statement is not literal shey? cheesy
Oga if you think the statement is not literal, it's on you to prove it, not me. I shouldn't prove your case for you.
Also please tell me if I have not answered any of your questions so I can address it.
I would be happy to address any question I forgot to address.
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by tctrills: 5:58pm On Dec 12, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

Oh you're so dumb! undecided

Jesus cried along with others because his friend DIED.
Was Jesus bitter or happy?
Will God also be bitter or happy when His friends die? smiley
So again if you want us to use guesswork, I would give you possible reasons why he cried.
I also gave you an example of me crying when someone I loved was traveling. I was not happy.
If you want us to assume reasons why Jesus Christ cried, just let me know because I have 2 possible reasons.
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:59pm On Dec 12, 2023
tctrills:

You really think the writer of Genesis was an idiot bah?
You're making the author an idiot because the major reason why He inspired the writer is to warn others about the CONSEQUENCES of DISOBEDIENCE:

Now these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for a warning to us upon whom the ends of the systems of things have come. 1Corinthians 10:11

So if you're saying they don't know what they did is BAD that means you're indirectly calling the author an idiot! wink

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Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by tctrills: 6:04pm On Dec 12, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

You're making the author an idiot because the major reason why He inspired the writer is to warn others about the CONSEQUENCES of DISOBEDIENCE:
Don't be confused. The story of Adam and Eve teaches us of disobedience no doubt but we should not change the facts.
When I punish my kid, I am teaching him the consequences of disobedience. It doesn't mean he has the knowledge of good and evil.

[b]Now these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for a warning to us upon whom the ends of the systems of things have come. 1Corinthians 10:11[/b]
Agreed but this doesn't say it wasn't literal.

So if you're saying they don't know what they did is BAD that means you're indirectly calling the author an idiot! wink

Again don't confuse yourself. They had no knowledge of good and evil does not mean the author is an idiot.
In fact, explain how it makes the author an idiot.
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:07pm On Dec 12, 2023
tctrills:

I would be happy to address any question I forgot to address.

Aemmyjah:

God killed people to show he loved them. Yes or No?

tctrills:

There would be times that I wouldn't have all answer and I would honestly tell you that I don't have the answers.

This is what made me quote you!
If you don't have answers keep shut! smiley
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:09pm On Dec 12, 2023
tctrills:
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Again don't confuse yourself. They had no knowledge of good and evil does not mean the author is an idiot.In fact, explain how it makes the author an idiot.

Who punished them?
For what reason were they punished?
cheesy

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Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by tctrills: 6:13pm On Dec 12, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Who punished them?
For what reason were they punished?
cheesy
There father punished them for disobedience just as I punish my 3 years old kid for disobedience.
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by tctrills: 6:14pm On Dec 12, 2023
MaxInDHouse:






This is what made me quote you!
If you don't have answers keep shut! smiley
Just ask your question. If there is any of your questions I have failed to answer, I must have skipped it by mistake and you should remind me or bring me back to it.
So far, none of your questions have been particularly hard or challenging
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by tctrills: 6:32pm On Dec 12, 2023
MaxInDHouse:






This is what made me quote you!
If you don't have answers keep shut! smiley
Oh sorry you linked me back to a question that I have already answered. Let me repeat my answer.
Will you die someday?
Would you die because God stopped loving you?
So death is not a consequence of God's hate.
Does this answer your question now.
Now for an example,
Job.
God practically invited the devil to kill his children.
Was it because God hates him or his children?
Death is not prove that God has stopped loving us.
God allows those he loves to die.
Do you get it now?
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by Aemmyjah(m): 6:59pm On Dec 12, 2023
tctrills:

Boss, you have asked this question over 20 times.
Now again let me answer.
Does God love you?
Would you die one day?
Will you die because God stopped loving you?
Now you have your answer.


You're shifting post
I asked a yes or No question
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by Aemmyjah(m): 6:59pm On Dec 12, 2023
MaxInDHouse:






This is what made me quote you!
If you don't have answers keep shut! smiley

😂
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by tctrills: 7:20pm On Dec 12, 2023
Aemmyjah:



You're shifting post
I asked a yes or No question
And I answered it with more than a yes or no.
Please explain why you are not okay with my answer
Does my answer not clearly explain my position?
If you don't understand my answer, you can ask a follow up question. Because I am finding it hard to know why you are not understanding. So please tell me which part of my answer is giving you problems.
But then let me try helping you further.
God gave the devil permission to kill Job's kids.
Does God hate Job or does he hate his kids?
Why would God sanction their death if it was an evil thing or a thing of hate?
If you honestly try to answer the above, you would automatically resolve all your concerns.

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