Aemmyjah:


God cursed me or you?
The same way you show love to your 3 year old boy by cursing him and pronouncing death on him

Sense is very far from you walahi
God cursed Adam and Eve, if you like, include yourself
We also suffer cos we are from that line and born sinners
God showed us love by not leaving us condemned in sin but sending his own
Son to die and set us free...
If it were loving, he wouldn't have sent Jesus. Nobody begged him to release us from what Adam and Eve did but right there in the garden, he made a way out for us

Olodo

I am waiting for you to make a point.
Now Adam was cursed with death, you too will die.
Adam was kicked out of the garden you too don't have access to the garden.
Adam was going to work hard to feed, same with you.
You suffer ever curse God pronounced upon Adam
Now does God not love you? Does he not have a plan for you.
I went through your profile and discovered you always accuse anyone who doesn't buy your falsehoods of not having sense so I was already waiting for my turn.
It's clearly your default. But it only shows how childish and shallow you are.
Prove yourself via the scriptures and not by claiming those who don't agree with you are senseless.

Dtruthspeaker:


The bible Says she did not know good or bad or evil.

And God punished her for doing something she did not know was bad?

tctrills:


I am waiting for you to make a point.
Now Adam was cursed with death, you too will die.
Adam was kicked out of the garden you too don't have access to the garden.
Adam was going to work hard to feed, same with you.
You suffer ever curse God pronounced upon Adam
Now does God not love you? Does he not have a plan for you.
I went through your profile and discovered you always accuse anyone who doesn't buy your falsehoods of not having sense so I was already waiting for my turn.
It's clearly your default. But it only shows how childish and shallow you are.
Prove yourself via the scriptures and not by claiming those who don't agree with you are senseless.

Do you have sense?
Is it my desire to see the garden that no longer exists today?
Did God curse me?
Did he drive me away from the garden?


You are shifting post
Have you ever cursed your 3 year old boy and expelled him from home and do not allow him access again?

Aemmyjah:



Do you have sense?
Is it my desire to see the garden that no longer exists today?
Did God curse me?
Did he drive me away from the garden?

Oga you don't have access to the garden just like Adam. How are you any better.

You are shifting post
Have you ever cursed your 3 year old boy and expelled him from home and do not allow him access again?

Foolish question because neither you nor I would tell God how to punish his children.
Now God killed the children of Israel for disobedience, I have never killed my kids for disobedience and I would never do that so what really is your point?
I noticed that the more I answer your questions, the more you get provoked but it's ok, I would be lying if I said I was not enjoying it.

Aemmyjah:


And God punished her for doing something she did not know was bad?

Read your bible and read what she was Charged with in Court.

She was Charged with disobedience and punished her for her disobedience and not on whether she knew good or bad.

Dtruthspeaker:


Read your bible and read what she was Charged with in Court.

She was Charged with disobedience and punished her for her disobedience and not on whether she knew good or bad.

Her disobedience was for doing something bad shey?

tctrills:
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Foolish question because neither you nor I would tell God how to punish his children.
Now God killed the children of Israel for disobedience, I have never killed my kids for disobedience and I would never do that so what really is your point?
I noticed that the more I answer your questions, the more you get provoked but it's ok, I would be lying if I said I was not enjoying it.

Keep by posts
You compared Adam and Eve to your 3 year old boy
Will you curse your son and pronounce death on him and chase him away cos you love him? Yes or No?

Aemmyjah:


Keep by posts
You compared Adam and Eve to your 3 year old boy
Will you curse your son and pronounce death on him and chase him away cos you love him? Yes or No?

I already gave you the perfect answer but I will repeat
God killed his Children (the Children of Israel) for disobedience. But I don't kill my children for disobedience.
What does that teach you?
God's punishment is not the same as man's punishment.
Have I answered your question now?

tctrills:

I already gave you the perfect answer but I will repeat
God killed his Children (the Children of Israel) for disobedience. But I don't kill my children for disobedience.
What does that teach you?
God's punishment is not the same as man's punishment.
Have I answered your question now?

You compared Adam and Eve to your 3 year old son amd that you punish him too for things he did not really understand


And you misquote scriptures too
Now you are running away
Keep shifting posts

Aemmyjah:



You compared Adam and Eve to your 3 year old son amd that you punish him too for things he did not really understand


And you misquote scriptures too
Now you are running away
Keep shifting posts

But I am answering you only that you are not comfortable with my answers. Again I will try to answer you.
You are asking why I don't give my child the kind of punishment God gives and my answer is that I am not God.
I even gave you an example with the children of Israel. Remember the guy that tried to steady the ark? God struck him dead.
I would not kill my 3 years old for doing that.
So yes, God's punishment may seem more severe that the way we punish our kids yet we never doubt his love for us.
I hope I have made it as simple as possible that even you can understand.

Aemmyjah:

Her disobedience was for doing something bad shey?

That is the power of Law and Command! A person under Command/Law does not need good or bad or evil to get punished. Only a simple disobedience to the Command/Law is all.

Dtruthspeaker:


That is the power of Law and Command! A person under Command/Law does not need good or bad or evil to get punished. Only a simple disobedience to the Command/Law is all.

What you have said just now, does it even make sense to you?

tctrills:

But I am answering you only that you are not comfortable with my answers. Again I will try to answer you.
You are asking why I don't give my child the kind of punishment God gives and my answer is that I am not God.
I even gave you an example with the children of Israel. Remember the guy that tried to steady the ark? God struck him dead.
I would not kill my 3 years old for doing that.
So yes, God's punishment may seem more severe that the way we punish our kids yet we never doubt his love for us.
I hope I have made it as simple as possible that even you can understand.

God killed that guy cos he loves him shey?

Aemmyjah:


God killed that guy cos he loves him shey?

So I gave that as an example to teach you that as a father, you shouldn't expect me to punish my kids the same way God punishes his. I hope you are gradually getting it.
But then it's ok to believe the biblical account that Adam and Eve did not have knowledge of Good and evil.
Trust me, if God meant something else, he would have said it.
Let me tell you a secret about God, he does not lie.

Aemmyjah:


What you have said just now, does it even make sense to you?

Just say you do not have anything to say in counter.

tctrills:

So I gave that as an example to teach you that as a father, you shouldn't expect me to punish my kids the same way God punishes his. I hope you are gradually getting it.
But then it's ok to believe the biblical account that Adam and Eve did not have knowledge of Good and evil.
Trust me, if God meant something else, he would have said it.
Let me tell you a secret about God, he does not lie.

God killed people to show he loved them. Yes or No?

Aemmyjah:



God killed people to show he loved them. Yes or No?

Nice question. God does not need to show he loves us. He has already declared it and he always shows it.
Now let me teach you using 2 examples.
Example 1
You: My brother, God loves you but one day, just like the man steadying the ark and like Adam you will die. The very same fate.
Does God love you less?
So you won't die because he is trying to show he loves you but his will and plan for you is perfect.
Example 2
His Son Jesus Christ. Did the Father love Jesus Christ? Did Jesus Christ sin? No
Yet the Father demanded his life. He suffered beyond what word can express and when he pleaded for the burden to be lifted, the Father rejected.
He also died like Adam.
He also did not live in the garden.
Now God loved the man who steadied the ark and his plans for him like all his children are for good not evil.
In summary, Everyone dies not because God hates them but it's part of his plan of good.

For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,

39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Aemmyjah:



God killed people to show he loved them. Yes or No?

Lol 😂😂

Aemmyjah:

God killed people to show he loved them. Yes or No?

When i told him that knowing God and Jesus means we have to know a lot about things that many other people don't know he was arguing blindly, how can a believer say God killed the people as a sign of LOVE?
He is willing to continue arguing blindly just to prove that Adam and Eve doesn't know what is GOOD and BAD literally speaking the other stupid sadist who doesn't attend any religious gathering came to argue with him but once they both sight JWs they quickly buried their differences to criticize JWs.
Please go through their comments on the same topic and see if they're in agreement it's evident that they're enemies of God each only want to set his or her own standard that's why they hate JWs with passion because we are the one and only organization that's proving God is in our midst as all of us submit to the same line of thought regarding the knowledge of God {John 17:3 compare to :22} that's why we are able to fulfil God's promise as written in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 and Micah 4:1- 3

All of them are confused as they don't want to submit to the teachings of the faithful and discreet slave: Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses! Matthew 24:45

Aemmyjah:

What you have said just now, does it even make sense to you?

I've noticed how you use to relate with this boy as if he's a believer, he is not. Being a critic of others doesn't quantify someone as a believer the first thing a true believer must have is humility to submit to the same line of thought with co-believer that's why Jesus referred to those having the same line of thought with him as his spiritual family {Matthew 12:46-50} they're not some ransom religionists that can't be presented rather they're a visible organized people that were later known and named by people who witnessed their movement! Act 11:26

So these argumentators are atheists confused as if they're believers!

Aemmyjah:



God killed people to show he loved them. Yes or No?

I want to sincerely thank you for your questions and concerns. Even though at some point you tried to be rude but we did not let that distract us from the issues.
The questions you asked were very important and I believe we have been able to help people on this thread understand scriptures better.
I personally love and entertain questions.
There would be times that I wouldn't have all answer and I would honestly tell you that I don't have the answers.
Also I would help you to stick to God's revealed truths
I would teach you to reject the falsehoods and guesswork of men and to live by every word that comes forth from the mouth of God.
Looking forward to more of your questions and concerns.

Ps. I don't mind the insults. I guess with so much disagreement in the Christian world, passions are bound to flare.

tctrills:

There would be times that I wouldn't have all answer and I would honestly tell you that I don't have the answers.

That is why you should keep quiet when those using God's word to settle all their disparities peacefully among themselves, divert their resources into production of food and information materials, erased the making, buying, selling and usage of weapons and vow never to raise weapons against anyone {Isaiah 2:2-4} are discussing how to get the benefits of God's word {Isaiah 48:17-18} the Bible itself has told you the purpose for which God inspired men to write down these things among it's adherents they're to use what is written in the Bible for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, so that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work. {2Timothy 3:16-17} once you see an ORGANIZED people applying what they got from the Bible to produce the nine qualities of God's Holy Spirit in their gathering whatever you're quoting can't make any sense against them! Galatians 5:22-23

So criticizing God's people and saying they're using GUESSWORK after seeing the way they're BENEFITING THEMSELVES with the use of God's word makes you sound stupid.

That's why this question is always getting on your nerves present a better performing group of worshipers practicing what you know? in the absence of a better performing group whatever you think is irrelevant. You can't say some people don't understand something yet they've making it work among themselves while you can't point to any other group using the same thing better than them!

tctrills:


I want to sincerely thank you for your questions and concerns. Even though at some point you tried to be rude but we did not let that distract us from the issues.
The questions you asked were very important and I believe we have been able to help people on this thread understand scriptures better.
I personally love and entertain questions.
There would be times that I wouldn't have all answer and I would honestly tell you that I don't have the answers.
Also I would help you to stick to God's revealed truths
I would teach you to reject the falsehoods and guesswork of men and to live by every word that comes forth from the mouth of God.
Looking forward to more of your questions and concerns.

Ps. I don't mind the insults. I guess with so much disagreement in the Christian world, passions are bound to flare.

God cursed Adam and Eve and pronounced death on them. Yes

God killed some Israelites

God killed one guy that touched the ark


He did that because he loved them. Yes or No?

MaxInDHouse:


I've noticed how you use to relate with this boy as if he's a believer, he is not. Being a critic of others doesn't quantify someone as a believer the first thing a true believer must have is humility to submit to the same line of thought with co-believer that's why Jesus referred to those having the same line of thought with him as his spiritual family {Matthew 12:46-50} they're not some ransom religionists that can't be presented rather they're a visible organized people that were later known and named by people who witnessed their movement! Act 11:26

So these argumentators are atheists confused as if they're believers!

Thank you very much sir
You're right

tctrills:

Nice question. God does not need to show he loves us. He has already declared it and he always shows it.
Now let me teach you using 2 examples.
Example 1
You: My brother, God loves you but one day, just like the man steadying the ark and like Adam you will die. The very same fate.
Does God love you less?
So you won't die because he is trying to show he loves you but his will and plan for you is perfect.
Example 2
His Son Jesus Christ. Did the Father love Jesus Christ? Did Jesus Christ sin? No
Yet the Father demanded his life. He suffered beyond what word can express and when he pleaded for the burden to be lifted, the Father rejected.
He also died like Adam.
He also did not live in the garden.
Now God loved the man who steadied the ark and his plans for him like all his children are for good not evil.
In summary, Everyone dies not because God hates them but it's part of his plan of good.

For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,

39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

You too de misyan

cornelboy:

Lol 😂😂

Sometimes, you need to allow the one claiming wise to see his folly
Now, he shifted goalposts across the stadium

Aemmyjah:



God cursed Adam and Eve and pronounced death on them. Yes

God killed some Israelites

God killed one guy that touched the ark


He did that because he loved them. Yes or No?

God sent Jesus Christ to die

God also would allow you die
Yes he does all this for his love.
Let's start from something you can understand, it seems I am going too fast for you.
Do you think God loved Adam and Eve?
What does God do when does he loves go against his command?
Isaiah 1.18 may help you answer this.

Aemmyjah:



Sometimes, you need to allow the one claiming wise to see his folly
Now, he shifted goalposts across the stadium

I keep answering your questions but clearly you are not comfortable with the answers.
You like Adam would die sir. Don't you see it, everyone that God loves dies so why do you have a problem with that.
Or maybe I need to take it slowly for you to understand.
Let's start from this, do you think God loved Adam and Eve?

Aemmyjah:



You too de misyan

No need for this, just keep asking the questions. Have I said anything that is against the scriptures? Have I said anything that the bible proves to be false?
My duty is to teach and instruct you and I would do it using the scriptures so keep calm and open your mind to learn.

MaxInDHouse:


That is why you should keep quiet when those using God's word to settle all their disparities peacefully among themselves, divert their resources into production of food and information materials, erased the making, buying, selling and usage of weapons and vow never to raise weapons against anyone {Isaiah 2:2-4} are discussing how to get the benefits of God's word {Isaiah 48:17-18} the Bible itself has told you the purpose for which God inspired men to write down these things among it's adherents they're to use what is written in the Bible for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, so that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work. {2Timothy 3:16-17} once you see an ORGANIZED people applying what they got from the Bible to produce the nine qualities of God's Holy Spirit in their gathering whatever you're quoting can't make any sense against them! Galatians 5:22-23

So criticizing God's people and saying they're using GUESSWORK after seeing the way they're BENEFITING THEMSELVES with the use of God's word makes you sound stupid.

That's why this question is always getting on your nerves present a better performing group of worshipers practicing what you know? in the absence of a better performing group whatever you think is irrelevant. You can't say some people don't understand something yet they've making it work among themselves while you can't point to any other group using the same thing better than them!

I hope you have been following.
You boy here has asked as many questions as he can but each time we keep teaching him simple truths in the bible. We don't do guesswork. We don't go into falsehoods.
We just teach him and then he ask another question.
That's how it's done.
I hope you are also learning

tctrills:

No need for this, just keep asking the questions. Have I said anything that is against the scriptures? Have I said anything that the bible proves to be false?
My duty is to teach and instruct you and I would do it using the scriptures so keep calm and open your mind to learn.

You instruct lies and nonsense
Shame on you
Comparing Adam to 3 year old son yet you can't curse him
Neither did you agree that the scripture you mentioned about love and chastening applied to Adam and Eve
Fake teacher, poor Bible student

tctrills:

I keep answering your questions but clearly you are not comfortable with the answers.
You like Adam would die sir. Don't you see it, everyone that God loves dies so why do you have a problem with that.
Or maybe I need to take it slowly for you to understand.
Let's start from this, do you think God loved Adam and Eve?

You are already a false teacher
Adam sold us into sin
It was not of my own doing
But God still loves me nonetheless
God does not hate anyone but he shows loyal love only to his own friends
The wicked he will destroy

Did Adam and Eve do what is bad? Yes
Was God's pronouncement on them cos he loves them? No, same way a judge pronouncing death on his own son not a sign of love
Poor illustrations... A man claiming to know Bible cannot show godly wisdom... He won't curse his own son or expel him from home but thinks he can fool others as he's fooling himself that God is loving with such punishment

When an ignorant person is claiming to be wise, he's actually sharing foolishness, not wisdom