tctrills:

And I answered it with more than a yes or no.
Please explain why you are not okay with my answer
Does my answer not clearly explain my position?
If you don't understand my answer, you can ask a follow up question. Because I am finding it hard to know why you are not understanding. So please tell me which part of my answer is giving you problems.
But then let me try helping you further.
God gave the devil permission to kill Job's kids.
Does God hate Job or does he hate his kids?
Why would God sanction their death if it was an evil thing or a thing of hate?
If you honestly try to answer the above, you would automatically resolve all your concerns.

Stop jumping around the bush
God cursed Adam and Eve, pronounced death on them and expelled them from the garden of Eden to show how much he loves them.

Yes or No?

Aemmyjah:



Stop jumping around the bush
God cursed Adam and Eve, pronounced death on them and expelled them from the garden of Eden to show how much he loves them.

Yes or No?

God sanctioned 5he devil to destroy Job's family to show how much he hates them?
God would allow you to die just like Adam to show he hates you?
Get serious here. It's easy to see that God allows those he loves to die.
If you can't see it then you would think God hates you.
You clearly don't need a yes or know answer. You deserve more explanation.
And yes God taught Adam and Eve the consequences of disobedience not because he hated them but because he loves them.

tctrills:

God sanctioned 5he devil to destroy Job's family to show how much he hates them?
God would allow you to die just like Adam to show he hates you?
Get serious here. It's easy to see that God allows those he loves to die.
If you can't see it then you would think God hates you.
You clearly don't need a yes or know answer. You deserve more explanation.
And yes God taught Adam and Eve the consequences of disobedience not because he hated them but because he loves them.

The same way you'd have done to your son
Adam and Eve are now dust. Evidence of God's love according to tctrills the pharisee (false teacher)

Aemmyjah:


The same way you'd have done to your son
Adam and Eve are now dust. Evidence of God's love according to tctrills the pharisee (false teacher)

You too will be dust, is that evidence of God's hate. Oga, it's high time you start to use your head.
Please just make sure you never die because the day you die, it would be clear to all that God hates you.

tctrills:

There father punished them for disobedience just as I punish my 3 years old kid for disobedience.

Good!
Disobedience to what they know or what they don't know?

MaxInDHouse:

Good!
Disobedience to what they know or what they don't know?

My kid's disobedience is it what he knows or what he doesn't know.
God commanded, and they disobeyed just as my 3 years old kid disobeyed. Yet would you say my kid has the knowledge of good and bad?
I shouldn't be teaching you everything.

tctrills:

My kid's disobedience is it what he knows or what he doesn't know.
God commanded, and they disobeyed just as my 3 years old kid disobeyed. Yet would you say my kid has the knowledge of good and bad?
I shouldn't be teaching you everything.

You're stupid walahi talahi!

You commanded your child not to do what is BAD and you're still claiming he doesn't know what is BAD.

Are you OK?

MaxInDHouse:


You're stupid walahi talahi!

You commanded your child not to do what is BAD and you're still claiming he doesn't know what is BAD.

Are you OK?

Well, I guess JW are the only people wise enough in the world to think that babies have a knowledge of good and bad.
That's all I will say about this.

tctrills:

Well, I guess JW are the only people wise enough in the world to think that babies have a knowledge of good and bad.
That's all I will say about this.

Well you can curse your own baby i will never curse mine!

MaxInDHouse:

Well you can curse your own baby i will never curse mine!

Clearly you will curse because you think the innocent child is evil for disobedience.
Let me share with you another experience.
When my boy was about 2 years, he would cry and refuse to go inside whenever we tell him to.
Sometimes his mom would spank him for that.
Luckily I am not JW if not you guys would have taught me that my child is evil.
Children don't have the capacity to be evil because they don't know wrong from right.

tctrills:

Clearly you will curse because you think the innocent child is evil for disobedience.
Let me share with you another experience.

I will beat the hell out of a disobedient child {Proverbs 22:15} but never will i lay a curse on my own child!

Ọmọ you have no useful experience if you don't know that warning is like equipping the inexperience person in other to distinguish between GOOD and BAD!

MaxInDHouse:

I will beat the hell out of a disobedient child {Proverbs 22:15} but never will i lay a curse on my own child!

Ọmọ you have no useful experience if you don't know that warning is like equipping the inexperience person in other to distinguish between GOOD and BAD!

Look you believe that your 2 years old child is evil when he disobeys you.So already he is cursed. I know my 3 years old baby is innocent even when he disobeys.
You see the difference?
Again, I taught you that the punishment of man isn't the same as the punishment of God.
With God, the wages of sin is death but I don't kill my kids for commiting sin.
I hope this explains it better bro.

tctrills:

Look you believe that your 2 years old child is evil when he disobeys you.So already he is cursed. I know my 3 years old baby is innocent even when he disobeys.
You see the difference?
Again, I taught you that the punishment of man isn't the same as the punishment of God.
With God, the wages of sin is death but I don't kill my kids for commiting sin.
I hope this explains it better bro.

The stupidity in you is blurring your senses from knowing that DISCIPLINE differs from CURSE.
You DISCIPLINE a child for correction but you lay a CURSE on your enemies!

MaxInDHouse:


The stupidity in you is blurring your senses from knowing that DISCIPLINE differs from CURSE.
You DISCIPLINE a child for correction but you lay a CURSE on your enemies!

But you are the one with the evil child who has the knowledge oF good and evil and yet chooses to be evil. My babies do not know good and evil. They are innocent.

tctrills:

But you are the one with the evil child who has the knowledge oF good and evil and yet chooses to be evil. My babies do not know good and evil. They are innocent.

Of course the evil has to be beaten out of the child since he's still under my care {Proverbs 22:15} when he is independent on his own he can choose his own path but at that time he is CURSED for abandoning the teachings his parents taught him from childhood so he will surely PERISH.

That's why God's word said:

Children, be obedient to your parents in union with the Lord, for this is righteous. “Honor your father and your mother” is the first command with a promise: “That it may go well with you and you may remain a long time on the earth.” Ephesians 6:1-3

So failure to OBEY his parents it will not go well with him and he will die young, that's why it's good to train a boy when he's still a baby.

MaxInDHouse:

Of course the evil has to be beaten out of the child since he's still under my care {Proverbs 22:15} when he is independent on his own he can choose his own path but at that time he is CURSED for abandoning the teachings his parents taught him from childhood so he will surely PERISH.

That's why God's word said:

Children, be obedient to your parents in union with the Lord, for this is righteous. “Honor your father and your mother” is the first command with a promise: “That it may go well with you and you may remain a long time on the earth.” Ephesians 6:1-3

So failure to OBEY his parents it will not go well with him and he will die young, that's why it's good to train a boy when he's still a baby.

Good for you, I understand why you beat the hell out of your children. My kid's don't have hell in them so I don't have to be a child abuser.

tctrills:

Good for you, I understand why you beat the hell out of your children. My kid's don't have hell in them so I don't have to be a child abuser.

YES the Hell means early grave for disobeying his parents so i will beat the Hell out of his head while he's still a child!

MaxInDHouse:


YES the Hell means early grave for disobeying his parents so i will beat the Hell out of his head while he's still a child!

Good for you and your pikin. I can't suggest to another man how to raise his child. You know your child and you know his problem.

tctrills:

Good for you and your pikin. I can't suggest to another man how to raise his child. You know your child and you know his problem.

I am quoting God's word for you so stop lying to your own soul. Disobedience connotes the knowledge of good and bad but the offender chose bad!

MaxInDHouse:

I am quoting God's word for you so stop lying to your own soul. Disobedience connotes the knowledge of good and bad but the offender chose bad!

And God's words said your babies are evil right?
Where in God's words did where you told that little children have the knowledge of good and evil?
I am sure you will also be at the hell out of your 10 months old baby.

tctrills:

And God's words said your babies are evil right? Where in God's words did where you told that little children have the knowledge of good and evil? I am sure you will also be at the hell out of your 10 months old baby.

Jehovah's Witnesses on this forum have taught those who care to learn that babies are God's enemies until they begin to learn God's laws that's when they become God's friend at least to a certain degree. So babies with the ability to speak and listen to instructions starts receiving punishment (beating) once they go against things learned , that's what God's word teaches! Proverbs 22:15

MaxInDHouse:


Jehovah's Witnesses on this forum have taught those who care to learn that babies are God's enemies until they begin to learn God's laws that's when they become God's friend at least to a certain degree. So babies with the ability to speak and listen to instructions starts receiving punishment (beating) once they go against things learned , that's what God's word teaches! Proverbs 22:15

You can continue teaching people what is against the bible. Your Bible says God loves the world but you teach that your baby is God's enemy.
Your Bible says
Psalm 127:3

3 Lo, children are an heritage of the Lord: and the fruit of the womb is his reward.
But you teach that your kids are His enemies.

Your Bible teaches
Matthew 19:14

14 But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.
But you believe that your kids are his enemies

The bible teaches
Matthew 18:10
Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you that in Heaven their angels do always behold the face of My Father who is in Heaven.
You claim children are his enemies yet they have angels that behold the face of God.

It's ok, keep deceiving yourselves.

tctrills:

Psalm 127:3
3 Lo, children are an heritage of the Lord: and the fruit of the womb is his reward.
But you teach that your kids are His enemies.

Why quoting halfway?
God's word started by telling you that if those children aren't TRAINED with God's word they're like cities without guards and houses not built on solid foundation! Psalms 127:1-2
Are cities left unguarded or houses on poor foundation safe haven?
So come let's teach you the practical applications of God's word.

tctrills:

Your Bible teaches
Matthew 19:14
14 But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.
But you believe that your kids are his enemies
It's ok, keep deceiving yourselves.

The little children were Jewish babies who have been taught from childhood about the Christ so when they had the opportunity to see him they ran to him to learn that's why they were blessed. Children from other nations who doesn't have the same privilege have no business with Jesus:

And look! a Phoe·niʹcian woman from that region came and cried out: “Have mercy on me, Lord, Son of David. My daughter is cruelly demon possessed.” But he did not say a word in answer to her. So his disciples came and began to urge him: “Send her away, because she keeps crying out after us.” He answered: “I was not sent to anyone except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” Matthew 15:22-24

So if not for the mother's strong faith that child is a waste product because she will die as Jesus doesn't have any business with children not born to Jews;

MaxInDHouse post=127456240:

Why quoting halfway?
God's word started by telling you that if those children aren't TRAINED with God's word they're like cities without guards and houses not built on solid foundation! Psalms 127:1-2
Are cities left unguarded or houses on poor foundation safe haven?
So come let's teach you the practical applications of God's word.
You clearly don't understand simple English. Your kids can't be God's heritage and God's enemies at the same time. How is that even possible?


The little children were Jewish babies who have been taught from childhood about the Christ so when they had the opportunity to see him they ran to him to learn that's why they were blessed. Children from other nations who doesn't have the same privilege have no business with Jesus:
First how do you know the nationality of the babies? Jesus Christ never spoke about 5heir nationality and he did not speak about the quality to their home training so calm down with your guesswork.

[b]And look! a Phoe·niʹcian woman from that region came and cried out: “Have mercy on me, Lord, Son of David. My daughter is cruelly demon possessed.” But he did not say a word in answer to her. So his disciples came and began to urge him: “Send her away, because she keeps crying out after us.” He answered: “I was not sent to anyone except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” Matthew 15:22-24

So if not for the mother's strong faith that child is a waste product because she will die as Jesus doesn't have any business with children not born to Jews;

[/b]
Your point is that God hates babies except Jewish babies?
You guys are twisted.

tctrills:

You clearly don't understand simple English. Your kids can't be God's heritage and God's enemies at the same time. How is that even possible?

Humble and learn the heritage is referring to children born to worshipers of God not all the children otherwise children won't be destroyed at all when God is angry.

tctrills:

First how do you know the nationality of the babies? Jesus Christ never spoke about 5heir nationality and he did not speak about the quality to their home training so calm down with your guesswork.

Read Matthew 15:21-4 again and think why Jesus refused to attend to the woman crying over her baby.

tctrills:

Your point is that God hates babies except Jewish babies? You guys are twisted.

Are you stupid?
Babies born to pagan Jews aren't God's friends but if you're from Togo and you've become a worshiper of God your child trained from infancy is God's heritage.

Do you understand now?

MaxInDHouse:

Humble and learn the heritage is referring to children born to worshipers of God not all the children otherwise children won't be destroyed at all when God is angry.
That's not what the bible says. No verse in the bible says such nonsense. So should we believe you or believe the bible?

Read Matthew 15:21-4 again and think why Jesus refused to attend to the woman crying over her baby.
Because he came first for the Jews.
Romans 1:16-17

16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

Are you stupid?
Babies born to pagan Jews aren't God's friends but if you're from Togo and you've become a worshiper of God your child trained from infancy is God's heritage.

Do you understand now?

Your personal opinion not based on any bible verse.
Now when we say a heritage from God, it means the children came from God. So you are saying that children from christian homes come from God while those from pagan homes come from who?
The idea that children come from different sources is pagan and not christian.
It is clear that your religion is a mixture of pagan and christian beliefs.

tctrills:
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Your personal opinion not based on any bible verse. Now when we say a heritage from God, it means the children came from God. So you are saying that children from christian homes come from God while those from pagan homes come from who? The idea that children come from different sources is pagan and not christian. It is clear that your religion is a mixture of pagan and christian beliefs.

Your personal interpretation that has failed to correlate with God's word.
Heritage means God's property which He will be responsible for but children born to pagans are waste products that's why God destroyed them during Noah's time, in Sodom and Gomorrah, in Egypt, in Amalek and Jerusalem when Babylonians sack their temple.

So God's heritage must be protected by angels not to be destroyed by angels.
Do you understand now?

MaxInDHouse:


Your personal interpretation that has failed to correlate with God's word.
Heritage means God's property which He will be responsible for but children born to pagans are waste products that's why God destroyed them during Noah's time, in Sodom and Gomorrah, in Egypt, in Amalek and Jerusalem when Babylonians sack their temple.

So God's heritage must be protected by angels not to be destroyed by angels.
Do you understand now?

Heritage does not mean property. Secondly in that same verse, it states that the fruit of the womb is his reward. Now this should make it clear to you since you don't understand the meaning of heritage.
God gives the fruit of the womb.
Because you may not know, the fruit of the womb means pregnancy.
So how much clearer can this be, all children come from God.
So according to JW is it only the fruit of the womb of christians that comes from God?
Clearly you guys believe that babies come from God and pagan babies come from somewhere else.
Oga you guys are semi pagan.
Now here are the words of Paul
And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, ..
So the demonic idea that some babies come from God and others come from wherever is a doctrine of the devil.

This fake story has not only tuned tbe world upside down, it has imprisoned kings and gods. So sad.

tctrills:

Heritage does not mean property. Secondly in that same verse, it states that the fruit of the womb is his reward. Now this should make it clear to you since you don't understand the meaning of heritage.
God gives the fruit of the womb.
Because you may not know, the fruit of the womb means pregnancy.
So how much clearer can this be, all children come from God.
So according to JW is it only the fruit of the womb of christians that comes from God?
Clearly you guys believe that babies come from God and pagan babies come from somewhere else.
Oga you guys are semi pagan.
Now here are the words of Paul
And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, ..
So the demonic idea that some babies come from God and others come from wherever is a doctrine of the devil.

So the fruit from the womb of cows, ram, goat and sheep are from where?
Why kill them for meat?

Guy heritage connotes responsibility so if anyone kills such heritage God will be angry with the killer whereas God Himself ordered the killing of waste products you're calling "babies"

MaxInDHouse:


So the fruit from the womb of cows, ram, goat and sheep are from where?
Why kill them for meat?
Foolish question as the passage was discussing humans not cows. How does cows come into this. Please explain.

Guy heritage connotes responsibility so if anyone kills such heritage God will be angry with the killer whereas God Himself ordered the killing of waste products you're calling "babies"

It seems one of the advantages of being a JW is that you become very poor in understanding simple English words.
But I am here to teach so don't worry.
Here is the dictionary meaning:
Heritage
Property that is or may be inherited; an inheritance.
property that descends to an heir
: something transmitted by or acquired from a predecessor :
So children are God's property that we parents inherit.
Now that you have learnt that children come from God, do you still think that the children of pagans come from a different source?
Or in short, do you think pagans have a different creator.
Oga, when discussing with me, you need to be sharp.
I am much more educated than the average JW so you can't be pushing fake definitions on me.
It's not acceptable bro.

MaxInDHouse:

You're making the author an idiot because the major reason why He inspired the writer is to warn others about the CONSEQUENCES of DISOBEDIENCE:

Now these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for a warning to us upon whom the ends of the systems of things have come. 1Corinthians 10:11

So if you're saying they don't know what they did is BAD that means you're indirectly calling the author an idiot!

Tctrills na dummy no be today...na do de argue fruitlessly dẹ im blood