Adakintroy2:


Have you ever consider simple instruction as" thou shall not kill" as a for-runner to peace and orderliness?

Is that not logical and resaonable enough to you or how do you understand logic and resoning?

Oga, you don't need a God to tell you killing is wrong.

we're talking about the existence of God and how impotent he's been, from flooding the earth, to committing suicide on the cross, still he failed woefully.

MuttleyLaff:
You are missing the point, no one is having an argument with you. It's you arguing all by yourself. Now the problem is there isnt anything wrong with that perfect word "Omnipotence", it is you having 99 problems with the word, that's all and we all understand you, your problem and what the problem is you have with the problem, lol

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Don't you know that God's a Paradox ni?

Listen does sound sensical and logical for a bush on flames, but its not burning, huh? Someone like you, will shrug it off and walk away, lo, but someone else, turned around, thinking what is going on there, this looks and sounds nonsensical and illogical, I better go and investigate, and the rest is history, lol.

See, you're ignorant, no offence intended there. I said it with the utmost and uttermost respect, but God had already slept and was awake at the sme time na. What are you talking about?

Thanks for pointing out that your god is a paradox and illogical.

A lot of things in the bible do not make sense. How can a Bush be on fire and not burn?

This is why religious people tend to be less analytical thinkers than non religious.

MuttleyLaff:
"As I was praying, Gabriel, (i.e. angel) whom I had seen in the earlier vision, came swiftly to me at the time of the evening sacrifice"
- Daniel 9:21

"I know a certain Christian man who fourteen years ago was snatched up to the highest heaven
I do not know whether this actually happened or whether he had a vision--only God knows."
- 2 Corinthians 12:2

"At this point I had another vision and saw an open door in heaven.
And the voice that sounded like a trumpet, which I had heard speaking to me before, said,
"Come up here, and I will show you what must happen after this."
- Revelation 4:1

I wasnt with that talking about your dream(s) per se, but it was just posted as a fyi with you cc'ed so to see it, lol. I merely put my hand in the pocket, and pulled it out without showing what sort of bird, its color I then had in my hand, lol.

What you have, simply is a profound gift. Now you havent actually said, how exactly you experience these phenomena. Is it a when I am, eyes closed and I am fast asleep, sleeping dreams. Are they, my eyes are open, I am awake and not sleeping, but have vivid visions playing out in plain sight ahead/in front of me. Or lastly, cant leave this out, daydreaming

What you seem to be exhibiting is a gift, just as I've earlier remarked. It's something in the line of two gifts, called word of knowledge and the word of wisdom. I dont have to tell you why you have this gift, the purpose why you are gifted with it and who primarily is to benefit of this gift.

Ok. But I still think the previous post would pass for a scientific explanation.

And no, its not trance. Its not vision. Its not any New Age guff. Its just good o' God-given, natural dream.

I'm not particularly sure it's a gift as I don't see events that I haven't happened nor do I see an august visitor coming. In fact, MuttleyLaff, my dreams don't come true.
Most of my dreams appear to be deleted from my mnemonic data just at the point of awaking from sleep. So seeing a few places in dreams before actually going there in the flesh can't be a gift. And to what end if it were a gift?

Maximus69:
@Freedom of speech, expression and worship!

I think each person is FREE to choose.

©God exists~so you find out the best way to worship him shoulder to shoulder with other believers like you!

©God doesn't exist~so you find something else to do with your time when believers are worshiping their SKY DADDY (God)!

At leisure every individual has the sole right to choose how to spend his time, religionists go for their God and atheists go for whatever they feel like doing when they are not at work.

No wahala!

Christians are brain washed, just look at the front page " A man wanting to give his 20k allowance to God" later in the front page a brick layer starves to death.

We're trying to help you people to wake up.

GRIMMJOE:
After U comes I

There is lie in believe, lol. You've believed a lie with "after U comes I"

GRIMMJOE:
Muttley become an Atheist for a day and test the freedom, I'm sure your God won't mind.

How do you know I havent ever being an Atheist before, huh?

You see the difference between you and I huh GRIMMJOE? I am happy content, pleased and satisfied in who and what I am. I will defend your right to be an Atheist, just as I am a monotheist, but you will never find me outrightly proselytize like you've just done here

MuttleyLaff:
There is lie in believe, lol. You've believed a lie with "after U comes I"

How do you know I havent ever being an Atheist before, huh?

You see the difference between you and I huh GRIMMJOE? I am happy content, pleased and satisfied in who and what I am. I will defend your right to be an Atheist, just as I am a monotheist, but you will never find me outrightly proselytize like you've just done here

So tell us Muttleylaff, have you been an Atheist before?

GRIMMJOE:
Oga, you don't need a God to tell you killing is wrong.

we're talking about the existence of God and how impotent he's been, from flooding the earth, to committing suicide on the cross, still he failed woefully.

You don't need a God to tell you you must not kill? well try telling that to Pharoah and the first born of the Israelite or Hitler and the Jews or Joseph stalin. all very logical men like you. If men already knew they must not kill.why did this men not only kill but commited genocide.

Men who already knew not to kill, kiling in millions

But that's beside the point, the point is the bible hold no rational utility whatsoever by your truth. Thou shall not kill is a rational utility because unlike you people killed and they do so for no just cause. institutin a command such as that leads to stability. That's is rational and logical.

Let's argue one position at a time.that's is your claim the bible is an illogical book.

GRIMMJOE:
So tell us Muttleylaff, have you been an Atheist before?

Of course I have, but I am not on trial here about that, so I am not entertaining any questions if asked and/or pertaining to that.

Adakintroy2:


You don't need a God to tell you you must not kill, well try telling that to Pharoah and the first born of the Israelite or Hitler and the Jews or Joseph stalin. all very logical men like you.

But that's beside the point, the point is the bible hold no rational utility whatsoever by your truth. Thou shall not kill is a rational utility because unlike you people killed and they do so for no just cause. institutin a command such as that leads to stability. That's is rational and logical.

Killing is wrong everybody knows that, otherwise before the coming of Jesus everybody would have kill each other.

If anything your God seem to do more of the killings, the flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, as if that wasn't enough he brought his son and kill him too.

MuttleyLaff:
Of course I have, but I am not on trial here about that, so I am not entertaining any questions if asked and/or pertaining to that.

Your journey to Atheism might be what we need, and how you found your way back to Christianity.

GRIMMJOE:
Christians are brain washed, just look at the front page " A man wanting to give his 20k allowance to God" later in the front page a brick layer starves to death.

We're trying to help you people to wake up.

What do you think is the driving force behind religious fanatics (terrorists)?

Well it's just one thing:- INTOLERANCE !

If you have a job just like anyone else, and you've executed your assigned duties adequately, whatever you do with your leisure is nobody's business!

You're free to spend your free times in the worship centers, night club, cinemas, playing draft, with your family, womanizing, watching porn, domino and so on.

It's INTOLERANCE when your neighbour is spending his resources (money or time) on what pleases him, yet you an advocate of freedom finds it so difficult to mind your own business!

Whatever makes you think it's proper to continue pestering your fellowman to change his mind on what he has already decided upon, equally justifies Boko Haram threatening people with death simply because they want to wake them up!

GRIMMJOE:
[s] Your journey to Atheism might be what we need,[/s] and how you found your way back to Christianity.

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... your way back to Christianity?

GRIMMJOE:
Killing is wrong everybody knows that, otherwise before the coming of Jesus everybody would have kill each other.

If anything your God seem to do more of the killings, the flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, that wasn't enough he even brought his son and kill him too.

Killing is wrong "everybody knows it" apparently Hitler, pharaoh and stalin are outside of your definition of everybody?

Not everybody know killing is wrong my friend.

The people who say Thou shall not kill observed a pattern of behavior with other men. They were logical.

Killing brings offence and further retaliations. To halt that process is the command of Thou shall not kill. It's is logical. You just don't understand simple logic.

Maximus69:


What do you think is the driving force behind religious fanatics (terrorists)?

Well it's just one thing:- INTOLERANCE !

If you have a job just like anyone else, and you've executed your assigned duties adequately, whatever you do with your leisure is nobody's business!

You're free to spend your free times in the worship centers, night club, cinemas, playing draft, with your family, womanizing, watching porn, domino and so on.

It's INTOLERANCE when your neighbour is spending his resources (money or time) on what pleases him, yet you an advocate of freedom finds it so difficult to mind your own business!

Whatever makes you think it's proper to continue pestering your fellowman to change his mind on what he has already decided upon, equally justifies Boko Haram threatening people with death simply because they want to wake them up!

And what did I threaten you with?
did I threaten you with death, did I threaten you with Hell (Christians favorite).

I'm only saying just because you have freedom doesn't make it okay to be ignorant, as you can see it's affecting the whole country.

MuttleyLaff:
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... your way back to Christianity?

What made you go back to God Almighty?

Adakintroy2:


Killing is wrong "everybody knows it" apparently Hitler, pharaoh and stalin are outside of your definition of everybody?

Not everybody know killing is wrong my friend.

The people who say Thou shall not kill observed a pattern of behavior with other men. They were logical.

Killing brings offence and further retaliations. To halt that process is the command of Thou shall not kill. It's is logical. You just don't understand simple logic.

That's why we don't need religion, check all those that kill, they are religious.

And even your God too us religious, and he killed more.

GRIMMJOE:
What made you go back to God Almighty?

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You're a quick learner, lol

MuttleyLaff:
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You're a quick learner, lol

Cool, so you became an Atheist because you believed God isn't mighty, what pushed you to that decision.

Adakintroy2:


Killing is wrong "everybody knows it" apparently Hitler, pharaoh and stalin are outside of your definition of everybody?

Not everybody know killing is wrong my friend.

The people who say Thou shall not kill observed a pattern of behavior with other men. They were logical.

Killing brings offence and further retaliations. To halt that process is the command of Thou shall not kill. It's is logical. You just don't understand simple logic.

You might also want to tell us why didn't you're forefathers kill each other before Christianity reached Nigeria.

GRIMMJOE:
[s] Cool, so you became an Atheist because you believed God isn't mighty, what pushed you to that decision.[/s]

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You have now regressed

MacCantStopMe:


Faith is the opposite of knowledge. It is ignorance by believing without evidence

How can blind chance result in intelligence? How can an intelligent human mind come from mindless random processes? If there is no God, no original intelligence, then where did intelligence come from? It's take a GIANT LEEP OF FAITH TO BECOME AN ATHEIST.

malvisguy212:
How can blind chance result in intelligence? How can an intelligent human mind come from mindless random processes? If there is no God, no original intelligence, then where did intelligence come from? It's take a GIANT LEEP OF FAITH TO BECOME AN ATHEIST.

It takes someone with massive humongous dangling swinging balls to become an atheist. I wonder how they manage to freely walk

MuttleyLaff:
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You have now regressed

No answer.

MuttleyLaff:
It takes someone with massive humongous dangling swinging balls to become an atheist. I wonder how they manage to freely walk

there Faith in evolution is indeed strong. How you doing bro, long time

malvisguy212:
How can blind chance result in intelligence? How can an intelligent human mind come from mindless random processes? If there is no God, no original intelligence, then where did intelligence come from? It's take a GIANT LEEP OF FAITH TO BECOME AN ATHEIST.

Nope, it takes
reading the Bible.

malvisguy212:
there Faith in evolution is indeed strong. How you doing bro, long time

Atheist means disbelief in God existence, like I've said a million times. some Atheist don't believe in Big Bang.

Christianity = There's God
Atheist = There's no God
Atheist ≠ Evolution

MuttleyLaff:
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You have now regressed

Muttley why do I feel you lied being an Atheist to score cheap point, been there done that personal.

malvisguy212:
there Faith in evolution is indeed strong. How you doing bro, long time

Baba mi. We thank Abba ojaare Praise God Alleluia.

GRIMMJOE:
No answer.

GRIMMJOE:
Muttley why do I feel you lied being an Atheist to score cheap point, been there done that personal.

I was once an Atheist and please quit the fishing expendition. OK?

GRIMMJOE:
And what did I threaten you with?
did I threaten you with death, did I threaten you with Hell (Christians favorite).

I'm only saying just because you have freedom doesn't make it okay to be ignorant, as you can see it's affecting the whole country.

Sorry!

Advanced countries also have religionists in their midst, and they're not blaming them for failures.
Black man's brains often malfunctions because instead of focusing on the real problems you people concentrate on the wrong direction.

There is modern day slavery going on throughout the world today, so the only way to save your country is if you people change your system of government!

Capitalism and Democracy is not good for you!

If someone ask you now to point to any atheist nation, you will say "CHINA" but do you know that China is practicing communism?

Would you approve it if everything belongs to the state so that we share everything equally?

Would you approve if the law says all fraudsters should be executed no matter how big or tiny the fraud?

For your information, Nigeria can only improve a bit if the country turn to practice communism but even ordinary you will object to it!

So your problem is not religion but Politics!

MuttleyLaff:


I was once an Atheist and please quit the fishing expendition. OK?

But your story might be what we need, maybe there is no story, it's cool though, you don't have to answer. Good Night.

This must be the definition of "orisirisi". These guys literally need God to be relevant.