Obalatule:
Did you watch the video?, Why did he laugh when he said it?....it obviously sounded like a joke, But rivers oil money was too enticing an offer

Lol...So when interacting with people ...U strong ur face like who see shit?

Alaye...Ur talk of laffing is nonsense...

Even ur Igbo governors laugh with Buhari

Think reasonably bro

UdechiHD:
Awka! Are you aware that they are Aro settlement even in Awka areas. Okpo Wagidi was an Aro through and through.

Well, it will make good sense Wagidi coming from Aro, because it will be inconceivable for the descendants of anyone coming from Awka and its environs, to be denying their Igbo identity at this present age.

Etinosa1234:


Lol...So when interacting with people ...U strong ur face like who see shit?

Alaye...Ur talk of laffing is nonsense...

Even ur Igbo governors laugh with Buhari

Think reasonably bro

You are the one not thinking reasonably here, if an ikwerre person who are now officially Bini shildren were to converse with you as a Bini man, do you think you will understand a word?

Etinosa1234:


Lol...So when interacting with people ...U strong ur face like who see shit?

Alaye...Ur talk of laffing is nonsense...

Even ur Igbo governors laugh with Buhari

Think reasonably bro

if you watched that video and honestly believe the oba of Benin meant what he was saying then you must be very gullible

OfoIgbo:


And what does NRI in Iponri mean?

doesn't mean anything. The closet meaning I can give is mo n ri - I am seeing it or oponri something like forehead

UdechiHD:
I guess you didn't read the list before you posted it. Igodo was the first Ogiso (Igbo) meaning Key down to Owodo the last one. Igodo began the dynasty, forming the kingdom and co-opting other tribes into what was known as Igodomingodo.

Lol...lets use ur analogy...

Ankara is a name of a fabric in Nigeria... automatically.. Nigerians were the ones that originally settled in the Turkish capital Ankara

Or

The English word chicken may have originated from the great Igbo miscreants due to the presence of chi

Or

The word Edo is also used in Japan... Therefore the Benin Empire stretched to Asia

Or

Even the name of ur tribe Igbo is a clear indication that the Yorubas once rules over u...

I could go on and on

Similarities in language is not a valid source to prove history

Obalatule:
if you watched that video and honestly believe the oba of Benin meant what he was saying then you must be very gullible

And if u believe that the nri Kingdom were the founder of the Benin monarchy , then in a land Of gullible ... u'll be king there

Etinosa1234:


Proof or

so what does your Wikipedia write up prove?..the same Wikipedia that says Oduduwa fell from heaven with chain
....igue is the Bini version of iguaro, and like the Igbos it used to be celebrated with human heads, this heads must come from foreigners not Nri Descendants

Etinosa1234:


And if u believe that the nri Kingdom were the founder of the Benin monarchy , then in a land Of gullible ... u'll be king there

Where did I say NRI was the founder of Bini monarchy?....Nri and it's descendants held influence in Bini kingdom as priests #fact

BabaRamota1980:


This tactic of knowing about other people history so you can exploit it for your advantage is how you have built a written and online record of Igbo history. What you posess online and in text has no matching foundation in real terms. In other words, there is disconnect between who you purport to be and who you really are. When you find the shrine and its name return here to share, I will give you the history of Iponri back when it was an Abule, all the way from costain back to the railway yard in Yaba. You are lost!

I'm here talking about ancient tingz, and you are here telling me about railway yard in Yaba.

The thing about shrines is that they hardly change, and the way they are looked after, remains the same throughout the ages.

I have already posted here, the findings of neutral Portuguese observers. Not observations from Ndigbo. The Portuguese clearly noted what they saw when they visited Benin in the 1400s, and what they wrote down will remain forever. Nri was the Benin cultural/religious/social overlord.
If Nri had decided to form an empire, Benin would have been one of the provinces, along with Ife and possibly Awori-owned Lagos.

I will investigate the Iponri thing. I know you will be making frantic efforts to contact the Iponri traditional authorities, but that won't help you, as my traditional Nri people will tell me how to go about it, to verify its authenticity. Bear in mind, the Oba Nri and his group have already investigated and found it to be very plausible, so my investigation is just to satisfy myself.

Obalatule:
so what does your Wikipedia write up prove?..the same Wikipedia that says Oduduwa fell from heaven with chain
....igue is the Bini version of iguaro, and like the Igbos it used to be celebrated with human heads, this heads must come from foreigners not Nri Descendants

I don't support the theory that Oba of Benin came from Oduduwa... check my post

Igue is a festival that celebrate Oba Ewuare 1 Powers,...it was never from Igbo...

Bring proof of ur assumptions and stop lieing

Sammy07:
doesn't mean anything. The closet meaning I can give is mo n ri - I am seeing it or oponri something like forehead

ok nah, just like you can't give any reasonable meaning of Oduduwa

Obalatule:
I swear I have always had the notion that NRI priests got as far as Lagos in company of Bini warriors, it's very very likely

I have always imagined that being the case. That was why when I heard about thing Iponri thing, I decided to investigate.

Etinosa1234:


I don't support the theory that Oba of Benin came from Oduduwa... check my post

Igue is a festival that celebrate Oba Ewuare 1 Powers,...it was never from Igbo...

Bring proof of ur assumptions and stop lieing

Proof? Go and ask your oba in private, if he has any atom of honesty left he ll tell you

Obalatule:
ok nah, just like you can't give any reasonable meaning of Oduduwa

lol Oduduwa means something bro. That's not his full name just like Fayemi and mimiko ain't their full name you can't even translate their names to English except you translate it from their full names. I've told you that in ODUDUWA, the WA is the short form of IWA which means character. I won't tell you the full ODUDU go and make more research. A Yoruba guy would easily spot his full name even if he guessed it

Sammy07:
lol Oduduwa means something bro. That's not his full name just like Fayemi and mimiko ain't their full name you can't even translate their names to English except you translate it from their full names. I've told you that in ODUDUWA, the WA is the short form of IWA which means character. I won't tell you the full ODUDU go and make more research. A Yoruba guy would easily spot his full name even if he guessed it

Research kor , Oduduwa is a pure Igbo name and has multiple Igbo meanings....your god is an Igbo man

Obalatule:
Research kor , Oduduwa is a pure Igbo name and has multiple Igbo meanings....your god is an Igbo man

okay I've heard you. Repeating things ain't my thing

Obalatule:
You are off-point, Binis where an offshoot of early Igbo ancestors, Building an empire later-on has nothing to do with it...... Through out all their conquering and wars they never looked east towards the Igbos,but they were always traversing yerobaland with impunity..have you asked yourself why?

When people confuse stupidity for cleverness is the result of what you're doing. You think by mixing few letters together you can rewrite history but you are wrong, you can continue with your lies it will only end up like a water poured into a basket .

UdechiHD:
I guess your infatuated with the Nri in IkpoNri but I bet you it is pure Awori. I doubt it has anything to do with Nri. Forgo that argument before you become like Ndi IPOB whose historical understand is only by hearsay. However, you should try and do your own research.

Believe you me, the Oba Nri that made mention of this to me, is a highly respected titled man in Agukwu, whose great grand father was even an Eze Nri.

This Oba was highly respected by Prof. Onwuejeogwu and the rest. And his class are not those that make assertions willy-nilly. I will not be interested in this mission if it was coming from a less serious source, and remember this person knows about shrines and what it takes to maintain them, and the exact way Umu Nri priests carry this task out, and the fact that his people have already been down there and observed the way the shrine is maintained.

This people know the differences between the various neighbouring customs of maintaining shrines, so I will investigate it.

It was this class of people who were telling everyone that wished to listen that Benin was under Nri, and people called them fools and revisionists. If the Portuguese hadn't recorded it, you will be seeing them as IPOB replica.

I was even the person that brought the Portuguese evidence to butress what they have always said. and the Portuguese records even went further, than they ever told me. This Oba only ever told me that Nri had a relationship with Benin in the past, and that past Obas had to send emissaries to collect their OFORs from Eze Nri, but the Portuguese record even went further.

Believe you me, I have more confidence in him than some nameless nairaland miscreants who are bent on destroying the Igbo heritage.

BabaRamota1980:


This tactic of knowing about other people history so you can exploit it for your advantage is how you have built a written and online record of Igbo history. What you posess online and in text has no matching foundation in real terms. In other words, there is disconnect between who you purport to be and who you really are. When you find the shrine and its name return here to share, I will give you the history of Iponri back when it was an Abule, all the way from costain back to the railway yard in Yaba. You are lost!

One thing about these Igbos is that they build their thesis based on lies and any statement from them need to be subjected to scrutiny before the general public can hold it as a statement of truth.

That was how one of them said because there is Igbo in “OkeIgbo”, “OdoIgbo”, then that means those places trace their roots to the Igbo people.

Now ofoigbo who I suspect to be pazienza is now saying what is the meaning of Iponri in Yoruba language.

Ori most times in Yoruba theology is akin to one’s destiny.

We have atari - top (center) of the head
Iponri - inner head

Language most times are usually a mixture of two words where letters could be cut off to give it meaning.

ri is the common factor in both words and it’s a shortened form of Ori meaning head.

One's ori-inu (spiritual consciousness in the physical realm) must grow in order to consummate union with one's "Iponri" (Ori Orun, spiritual self).

Iponri is a spiritual word in the Yoruba language and we have a lot of words like that which are usually used in the Yoruba theology.

Iponri most times is an individual’s personal destiny which explain why Yorubas always say “ Iponri inu mi ko ma ba to de mi je.”

valirex:


When people confuse stupidity for cleverness is the result of what you're doing. You think by mixing few letters together you can rewrite history but you are wrong, you can continue with your lies it will only end up like a water poured into a basket .

It's not a lie of its fact bro, what are you saying

Sammy07:
doesn't mean anything. The closet meaning I can give is mo n ri - I am seeing it or oponri something like forehead

Exactly, I didn't think NRI will mean much, when combined with IpoNri. Because if IPO means CONDITION in Yoruba, then IpoNri will mean NRI CONDITION.

Again as I wrote earlier on, once chance permits, I will go shrine hunting in Iponri to learn more. The Oba in Nri that revealed this to me, is not the sort that makes mistakes, and his people have already investigated and found it to be of NRI origin

Obalatule:
Research kor , Oduduwa is a pure Igbo name and has multiple Igbo meanings....your god is an Igbo man

I’m not surprised tho.

You Igbos don’t have any culture worthy of emulation and you must always attach yourself to the Yoruba culture before you can at least give your own an iota of authenticity.

Abi how would I as an observer fathom the thought behind an Igbo man saying Oduduwa is an Igbo name/ Igbo man when all evidence available to historians and humankind point to the contrary.

At least you guys should try to be natural and original, even if you want to lie, at least present a convincing lie and stop ridiculing yourself by saying jargons online.

OfoIgbo:


Believe you me, the Oba Nri that made mention of this to me, is a highly respected titled man in Agukwu, whose great grand father was even an Eze Nri.

This Oba was highly respected by Prof. Onwuejeogwu and the rest. And his class are not those that make assertions willy-nilly. I will not be interested in this mission if it was coming from a less serious source, and remember this person knows about shrines and what it takes to maintain them, and the exact way Umu Nri priests carry this task out, and the fact that his people have already been down there and observed the way the shrine is maintained.

This people know the differences between the various neighbouring customs of maintaining shrines, so I will investigate it.

It was this class of people who were telling everyone that wished to listen that Benin was under Nri, and people called them fools and revisionists. If the Portuguese hadn't recorded it, you will be seeing them as IPOB replica.

I was even the person that brought the Portuguese evidence to butress what they have always said. and the Portuguese records even went further, than they ever told me. This Oba only ever told me that Nri had a relationship with Benin in the past, and that past Obas had to send emissaries to collect their OFORs from Eze Nri, but the Portuguese record even went further.

Believe you me, I have more confidence in him than some nameless nairaland miscreants who are bent on destroying the Igbo heritage.

Do know the Oba on the throne during the punitive expeditions by the British is Nogbaisi ovoramnwen?...I'm sure I dont need to explain that F and V are interchangeable in Anambra dialects of Igbo, his surname is clearly ofor ora nwe And glaringly an NRI name, Nobody can fool anybody again Bini kings were Nri

LegendHero:


I’m not surprised tho.

You Igbos don’t have any culture worthy of emulation and you must always attach yourself to the Yoruba culture before you can at least give your own an iota of authenticity.

Abi how would I as an observer fathom the thought behind an Igbo man saying Oduduwa is an Igbo name/ Igbo man when all evidence available to historians and humankind point to the contrary.

At least you guys should try to be natural and original, even if you want to lie, at least present a convincing lie and stop ridiculing yourself by saying jargons online.

That's why I didn't even argue with him further. Someone what doesn't know what IFA entails will know the meaning of Oduduwa He actually wanted me to tell him the full transcription of his name.

LegendHero:


I’m not surprised tho.

You Igbos don’t have any culture worthy of emulation and you must always attach yourself to the Yoruba culture before you can at least give your own an iota of authenticity.

Abi how would I as an observer fathom the thought behind an Igbo man saying Oduduwa is an Igbo name/ Igbo man when all evidence available to historians and humankind point to the contrary.

At least you guys should try to be natural and original, even if you want to lie, at least present a convincing lie and stop ridiculing yourself by saying jargons online.

There is no evidence anywhere bros, what you have is folktales that a certain Oduduwa fell from the sky, Most if your history especially the ancient ones are folklore and moonlight tales, Igbos didn't indulge in that as such

Sammy07:

That's why I didn't even argue with him further. Someone what doesn't know what IFA entails will know the meaning of Oduduwa He actually wanted me to tell him the full transcription of his name.

Oh ifa is what you don't want to mention?... Do u know Igbos call their divinition AfA?, Binis call it Eha?, I've forgotten the name for igala.... Oduduwa brought this divinition to yorubas

LegendHero:


One thing about these Igbos is that they build their thesis based on lies and any statement from them need to be subjected to scrutiny before the general public can hold it as a statement of truth.

That was how one of them said because there is Igbo in “OkeIgbo”, “OdoIgbo”, then that means those places trace their roots to the Igbo people.

Now ofoigbo who I suspect to be pazienza is now saying what is the meaning of Iponri in Yoruba language.

Ori most times in Yoruba theology is akin to one’s destiny.

We have atari - Centre head
Iponri - inner head

Language most times are usually a mixture of two words where letters could be cut off to give it meaning.

ri is the common factor in both words and it’s a shortened form of Ori meaning head.

One's ori-inu (spiritual consciousness in the physical realm) must grow in order to consummate union with one's "Iponri" (Ori Orun, spiritual self).

Iponri is a spiritual word in the Yoruba language and we have a lot of words like that which are usually used in the Yoruba theology.

Iponri most times is an individual’s personal destiny which explain why Yorubas always say “ Iponri inu mi ko ma ba to de mi je.”

So are you telling us that IPON means INNER and (O)RI means HEAD?

Obalatule:
Proof? Go and ask your oba in private, if he has any atom of honesty left he ll tell you

Funny you...I should ask my oba abt something that happened years be4 he was lieing??

Like ur government controlled Obi doesn't tell lies like a commoner

Prove ur claims...U didn't ask ur eze b4 talking trash...I don't think u need his permission to post ur proof

Obalatule:
Do know the Oba on the throne during the punitive expeditions by the British is Nogbaisi ovoramnwen?...I'm sure I dont need to explain that F and V are interchangeable in Anambra dialects of Igbo, his surname is clearly ofor ora nwe And glaringly an NRI name, Nobody can fool anybody again Bini kings were Nri

U are a fucking revisionist

Etinosa1234:


Lol...lets use ur analogy...

Ankara is a name of a fabric in Nigeria... automatically.. Nigerians were the ones that originally settled in the Turkish capital Ankara

Or

The English word chicken may have originated from the great Igbo miscreants due to the presence of chi

Or

The word Edo is also used in Japan... Therefore the Benin Empire stretched to Asia

Or

Even the name of ur tribe Igbo is a clear indication that the Yorubas once rules over u...

I could go on and on

Similarities in language is not a valid source to prove history

See my reply to u

Obalatule:
Oh ifa is what you don't want to mention?... Do u know Igbos call their divinition AfA?, Binis call it Eha?, I've forgotten the name for igala.... Oduduwa brought this divinition to yorubas

Oduduwa brought IFA to Yorubas Okay I hear you

Obalatule:
Do know the Oba on the throne during the punitive expeditions by the British is Nogbaisi ovoramnwen?...I'm sure I dont need to explain that F and V are interchangeable in Anambra dialects of Igbo, his surname is clearly ofor ora nwe And glaringly an NRI name, Nobody can fool anybody again Bini kings were Nri

Interesting. My people use V or W in place of F e.g OVO or OWO for OFO.

I will like to know what "ovoramnwen" means in Bini