gregyboy:


You're saying nonsense,

The itsekiri royalty is of edo origin, the people could be Yoruba but the ruling house is of edo

Changing it would only lead to more issues rather than solution

You should be proud itsekiri were opportuned to be of edo origin something other yorubas are dieing for....


This move by the itsekiri royals is just a mere inferiority complex

The edo royals who ought to protect their original lineage are the ones distorting it very sad

You are contradicting yourself. First you said the itsekiri royalty is of edo origin, then 2 paragraphs later you said itsekiri were opportuned to be of edo origin. We the itsekiri people are not of Benin origin, only the monarchy is. We are mainly of Yoruba origin and few from Igala origin. The itsekiri culture and language has nothing in common with the Benin's save the monarchy. You are talking as if we are a conquered people or a vassal state of Benin.
Does it make any sense that a prince born on edo mother (maybe ishan) can be Olu, but a prince born of Ilaje mother cannot.

gregyboy:


Law are meant to be respected and not threaded upon because of selfish intrest reasons why we dont respect laws in the country because the top people like the olu who made such laws would still step on it, if this olu is not thought the lesson of disobeying laws, the future kings will do worse

Which yeye military law? Is it law that will choose the king for a people? The law was made for specific selfish agenda then. We are only correcting the anomaly now.

And again there is no ifa in benin monarchy so remove that nonsense yoruba idols that couldn't save their people when Benin came raiding their people lands and installing their king

That ifa should be thought laws and principle or should be burnt and deserves not to be an idol in the royal palace of a Benin derived stool at all,


So whatsoever ever the ifa idol would pronounce would surely be false as it originally configured to favour yorubas,

Ifa has no right to choose in a benin
monarchy my stance remain same the three prince should be disqualified and iyasere steps in as replacement Untill the prince's children makes the qualification

You obviously have no idea about itsekiri culture. Nothing takes place in itsekiri land without the consultation of Ifa. When someone dies, ifa must be consulted before the person can be buried in itsekiri land. If the body is rejected by ifa, the person can not be buried in itsekiri land.

Before any major decision is taken in itsekiriland, ifa must be consulted. In fact we consult ifa even more than the Yorubas.

wirinet:


You are contradicting yourself. First you said the itsekiri royalty is of edo origin, then 2 paragraphs later you said itsekiri were opportuned to be of edo origin. We the itsekiri people are not of Benin origin, only the monarchy is. We are mainly of Yoruba origin and few from Igala origin. The itsekiri culture and language has nothing in common with the Benin's save the monarchy. You are talking as if we are a conquered people or a vassal state of Benin.
Does it make any sense that a prince born on edo mother (maybe ishan) can be Olu, but a prince born of Ilaje mother cannot.

You imposter an itsekiri man wont make this useless comment

gregyboy:



You imposter an itsekiri man wont make this useless comment

Are you itsekiri? Where is your village?

I am a full blooded itsekiri man. Father from Jakpa, mother from Bateren.

gregyboy:



You imposter an itsekiri man wont make this useless comment

Stop attacking our people here. Our decision is final. You claimed that Itsekiri and Binis are related yet you guys are appointing enogie in Ologbo, Kolokolo and Aja-oki. You even set up and arrested the Iyatsere of Warri Kingdom because he rejected your enogie. The truth is that you can't mix water and kerosene. Come in our language is "Wa" while come in Bini language is "Lare" Can't you see the variance? Are they related in anyway?

Ogungbemi01:

Stop attacking our people here. Our decision is final. You claimed that Itsekiri and Binis are related yet you guys are appointing enogie in Ologbo, Kolokolo and Aja-oki. You even set up and arrested the Iyatsere of Warri Kingdom because he rejected your enogie. The truth is that you can't mix water and kerosene. Come in our language is "Wa" while come in Bini language is "Lare" Can't you see the variance? Are they related in anyway?

I salute your courage over subduing the rants of this Edo lad . It is pathethic reading each statement from these egocentric Binis whose monarchial structure came to existence via Yorubaland's prince ,who became Ooni later in life.

Ogungbemi01:

Stop attacking our people here. Our decision is final. You claimed that Itsekiri and Binis are related yet you guys are appointing enogie in Ologbo, Kolokolo and Aja-oki. You even set up and arrested the Iyatsere of Warri Kingdom because he rejected your enogie. The truth is that you can't mix water and kerosene. Come in our language is "Wa" while come in Bini language is "Lare" Can't you see the variance? Are they related in anyway?

Why are you Yoruba guys full of misinformation, you guys just lie shamelessly.

The Iyase was arrested for the murder of another Itsekiri man, his fellow Itsekiri accomplices confessed that he sent them. He was in police custody for two months before he was granted bail, all these are on YouTube. ITV covered the matter extensively and the murdered Itsekiri also did a video shortly before he was killed that the Iyase of Warri had threatened his life.

The Iyase accomplices lead the police to the shallow grave they buried guy, his corpse was latter recovered by same people and throw into nearby lake on the alleged instructions of the Iyase of Warri, the case is still on.

The Iyase arrest had nothing to do with the Enogie of Ologbo.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPmKBsNR8xY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDFdQtpujSw

Olu317:
I salute your courage over subduing the rants of this Edo lad . It is pathethic reading each statement from these egocentric Binis whose monarchial structure came to existence via Yorubaland's prince ,who became Ooni later in life.

Benin Palace does not agree that the Oba of Benin is a Yoruba descendant, rather, what the Benin Palace says is that the Ooni is a Benin descendant.

samuk:



Benin Palace does not agree that the Oba of Benin is a Yoruba descendant, rather, what the Benin Palace says is that the Ooni is a Benin descendant.

Would you like it if your Grandson after you nurtured him and he became successful , Powerful and Wealthy suddenly decided to start Claiming that he was your Father ?

Don’t you think it is arrogant?

Olu317:
I salute your courage over subduing the rants of this Edo lad . It is pathethic reading each statement from these egocentric Binis [s]whose monarchial structure came to existence via Yorubaland's prince ,who became Ooni later in life.[/s]

Trash atleast we have enlightened ypu it was a made up tales you refused to change, but i will keep dis gracing you yorubas spreading the bemin ife lies of an history to stay relevant

Christistruth00:



Would you like it if your Grandson after you nurtured him and he became successful , Powerful and Wealthy suddenly decided to start Claiming that he was your Father ?

Don’t you think it is arrogant?

Was there a grandson or any relationship to begin with in the first place, carry una myth go that side, see as u open mouth won dwell on the myth proper, if they ask you to support benin relationships with proves, you will instantly disappear but if it comes to discuss the mythical non existed tales that has no historical backings your mouth would be wide apart for it


Without any proper research even with common knowledge one would know benin and ife never made any historical encounter in ancient times


Ife has ifa, benin don't
The oba is a God and a king, the ooni is a priest
The benin are pure animus, the ife are pure divinist


I hate been black, people like you who live in self deniers makes black people don't grow

samuk:


Why are you guys full of misinformation, the Iyase was arrested for the murder of another Itsekiri man, his fellow Itsekiri accomplices confessed that he sent them. He was in police custody for two months before he was granted bail, all these are on YouTube. ITV covered the matter extensively and the murdered Itsekiri also did a video shortly before he was killed that the Iyase of Warri had threatened his life. The Iyase accomplices lead the police to the swallow grave they buried guy, his corpse was recovered by the police, the case is still on. Your Iyase arrest had nothing to do with the Enogie of Ologbo.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPmKBsNR8xY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDFdQtpujSw

The Ologbo crisis thou. I've some questions to ask, if you don't mind.

Who owns Ologbo? what language do they speak there? Can any Bini man trace his origin to the village? If no, why will an Enogie be forced on the people because the territory is being occupied by a tiny minority?

If the Iyase commits a crime, he should pay, but does that guarantee the installation of a leader who isn't from the community?

Efewestern:


The Ologbo crisis thou. I've some questions to ask, if you don't mind.

Who owns Ologbo? what language do they speak there? Can any Bini man trace his origin to the village? If no, why will an Enogie be forced on the people because the territory is being occupied by a tiny minority?

If the Iyase commits a crime, he should pay, but does that guarantee the installation of a leader who isn't from the community?

What is wrong with you, you think this is Delta state were you guys constantly fight for ownership of land because you lots forgot your ancestral boundaries


Youre neither itsekiri or bini i dont see why you cant mind your business

Ologbo is an edo word which means cat

And it has always had enogie and not any fucking iyasere, it has always been an edo territories governed by the oba, because the oba allowed foreigners settled there in the past for trade beefits doesn't change the ownership


You know nothing about benin history so mind your business, when history is unfolded on the ownership of Ologbo with historical evidence, another cry will emerge from you lots crying on their behalf, like the case of ijaws

gregyboy:



Was there a grandson or any relationship to begin with in the first place, carry una myth go that side, see as u open mouth won dwell on the myth proper, if they ask you to support benin relationships with proves, you will instantly disappear but if it comes to discuss the mythical non existed tales that has no historical backings your mouth would be wide apart for it


Without any proper research even with common knowledge one would know benin and ife never made any historical encounter in ancient times


Ife has ifa, benin don't
The oba is a God and a king, the ooni is a priest
The benin are pure animus, the ife are pure divinist


I hate been black, people like you who live in self deniers makes black people don't grow

With all humility ,

the British have thoroughly researched and fully understand the Oba of Benin’s Position.

gregyboy:



What is wrong with you, you think this is Delta state were you guys constantly fight for ownership of land because you lots forgot your ancestral boundaries


Youre neither itsekiri or bini i dont see why you cant mind your business

Ologbo is an edo word which means cat

And it has always had enogie and not any fucking iyasere, it has always been an edo territories governed by the oba, because the oba allowed foreigners settled there in the past for trade beefits doesn't change the ownership


You know nothing about benin history so mind your business, when history is unfolded on the ownership of Ologbo with historical evidence, another cry will emerge from you lots crying on their behalf, like the case of ijaws

Ologbo also means Cat in Yoruba and Itsekiri is recognised as a Yoruba dialect.

wirinet:

Are you itsekiri? Where is your village?

I am a full blooded itsekiri man. Father from Jakpa, mother from Bateren.

Jakpa na Itshekiri area?

Christistruth00:



Ologbo also means Cat in Yoruba and Itsekiri is recognised as a Yoruba dialect.

That's a bini word that got into yoruba lexicon through benin influence

Christistruth00:




With all humility ,

the British have thoroughly researched and fully understand the Oba of Benin’s Position.

You're a troll that deserves no reply... Just go away

gregyboy:



What is wrong with you, you think this is Delta state were you guys constantly fight for ownership of land because you lots forgot your ancestral boundaries


Youre neither itsekiri or bini i dont see why you cant mind your business

Ologbo is an edo word which means cat

And it has always had enogie and not any fucking iyasere, it has always been an edo territories governed by the oba, because the oba allowed foreigners settled there in the past for trade beefits doesn't change the ownership


You know nothing about benin history so mind your business, when history is unfolded on the ownership of Ologbo with historical evidence, another cry will emerge from you lots crying on their behalf, like the case of ijaws

This is a section where we are allowed to discuss about local culture and recent happenings, I don't need to be from any part or take permission from you before I can make a comment, so I don't see why you should be angry or paranoid.

Ologbo is an Edoid word which means cat, this I'm not disputing because it has same meaning in my language (Onogbo), going by your logic, Eko is also a Bini word, can we have Enojies in Eko?

Even if there should be an Enojie, wouldn't it be fair that he comes from the community?

Juliusmalema:


Jakpa na Itshekiri area?

No, na Bini area.

wirinet:
No, na Bini area.

Simple question demands simple answer.
Tueh

Juliusmalema:


Simple question demands simple answer.

Tueh

Your phone no get Google?

wirinet:
Your phone no get Google?

I don't blame you, product of many years on nairaland has kept you like this.
Tueh.

gregyboy:



What is wrong with you, you think this is Delta state were you guys constantly fight for ownership of land because you lots forgot your ancestral boundaries


Youre neither itsekiri or bini i dont see why you cant mind your business

Ologbo is an edo word which means cat

And it has always had enogie and not any fucking iyasere, it has always been an edo territories governed by the oba, because the oba allowed foreigners settled there in the past for trade beefits doesn't change the ownership


You know nothing about benin history so mind your business, when history is unfolded on the ownership of Ologbo with historical evidence, another cry will emerge from you lots crying on their behalf, like the case of ijaws

You call Itsekiris foreigners yet you want to claim their throne by all means.

gregyboy:



What is wrong with you, you think this is Delta state were you guys constantly fight for ownership of land because you lots forgot your ancestral boundaries


Youre neither itsekiri or bini i dont see why you cant mind your business

Ologbo is an edo word which means cat

And it has always had enogie and not any fucking iyasere, it has always been an edo territories governed by the oba, because the oba allowed foreigners settled there in the past for trade beefits doesn't change the ownership


You know nothing about benin history so mind your business, when history is unfolded on the ownership of Ologbo with historical evidence, another cry will emerge from you lots crying on their behalf, like the case of ijaws

You see, Edo and Yorubas has same name for cat as Ologbo.


Ndigbo calls it Nwonogbo........ Totally different.

History don't lie. Bini and Yorubas should stop fighting reality. You all are one blood.

Juliusmalema:



You see, Edo and Yorubas has same name for cat as Ologbo.


Ndigbo calls it Nwonogbo........ Totally different.

History don't lie. Bini and Yorubas should stop fighting reality. You all are one blood.

Benin and Igbo have the same name for chicken or fowl. There are many other words Benin share with Igbo including the 4 market days. History don't lie and according to your logic Benin and Igbo should be one blood.

Both Benin and Yoruba have told you they are not related but you are still fixated with your wishful thinking. Is there anything you intend to gain.

Efewestern:


This is a section where we are allowed to discuss about local culture and recent happenings, I don't need to be from any part or take permission from you before I can make a comment, so I don't see why you should be angry or paranoid.

Ologbo is an Edoid word which means cat, this I'm not disputing because it has same meaning in my language (Onogbo), going by your logic, Eko is also a Bini word, can we have Enojies in Eko?

Even if there should be an Enojie, wouldn't it be fair that he comes from the community?

Ologbo is mixed by edo indigenes and Itsekiri, the itsekiri people settled in Ologbo for trade during precolonial times they were the middle men between Binis and the Europeans, so settling in an edo land does not equate ownership to such lands, and bwfore now, it has always been enogie ruling Ologbo, and not an iyasere, so i would rather culture is maintained and not rather altered with western politics


When you want to be civil and give them their own ruler then we wilk be face with tribal clashes

Ologbo is already a mess from edo and Itsekiri clashes already


Take your opinion to Delta state, if i wss the oba of benin the itsekiri people in Ologbo will be driven back to Delta state

Juliusmalema:



You see, Edo and Yorubas has same name for cat as Ologbo.


Ndigbo calls it Nwonogbo........ Totally different.

History don't lie. Bini and Yorubas should stop fighting reality. You all are one blood.

Different pronunciation

Yoruba ia olorgbo
Edo is Ologbo
Ibo nwangbo

This is to show how benin in the ancient past influenced the entire southern Nigeria

Bini is the only tribe that had influenced between Yoruba and ibo, so if there is a similar world for a particular thing between igbo edo Yoruba, then the benin were the one who shared this word to the both tribe through her influence in ancient times

You can find the world in edo subgroup like Urhobo, okpe, esan

I guess i have schooled you enough aboki

Ogungbemi01:

You call Itsekiris foreigners yet you want to claim their throne by all means.

. Because their throne is edo origin

Christistruth00:




With all humility ,

the British have thoroughly researched and fully understand the Oba of Benin’s Position.

The British researched and fully understand the Oba of Benin's position just as you surrounding tribes also understand the Oba's position as your conqueror and ruler..

gregyboy:



Different pronunciation

Yoruba ia olorgbo
Edo is Ologbo
Ibo nwangbo

This is to show how benin in the ancient past influenced the entire southern Nigeria

Bini is the only tribe that had influenced between Yoruba and ibo, so if there is a similar world for a particular thing between igbo edo Yoruba, then the benin were the one who shared this word to the both tribe through her influence in ancient times

You can find the world in edo subgroup like Urhobo, okpe, esan

I guess i have schooled you enough aboki

lol
Stop clowning

At best it is a word inherited from the common language that yoruba, Igbo and Edoid languages evolved from.

gregyboy:



Different pronunciation

Yoruba ia olorgbo
Edo is Ologbo
Ibo nwangbo

This is to show how benin in the ancient past influenced the entire southern Nigeria

Bini is the only tribe that had influenced between Yoruba and ibo, so if there is a similar world for a particular thing between igbo edo Yoruba, then the benin were the one who shared this word to the both tribe through her influence in ancient times

You can find the world in edo subgroup like Urhobo, okpe, esan

I guess i have schooled you enough aboki

Look yourself in the mirror and clap for yourself for writing rubbish.

After writing names and one entirely different from the two , u still went ahead to write nonsense...You must be a very bad historian.


And please it is Nwonogbo not nwangbo. These are two different words Mr Influencer.

Misusing the word Influence....very pathetic.