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Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by iramure(m): 10:34am On Jul 03, 2022
The name of Jesus is sharper than 2 edged sword, in the name of jesus every knee shall bow and every tougue confess that jesus is the lord. I want to urge all Christians to depend on the name of jesus, nothing shall by any means hurt them. You don't need to carry any weapon. Whenever uou are confronted with threats from terrorists, just shout JESUS, HE is every ready to prove HIMSELF. try this and thank me later .

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Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by OriOko88(m): 10:35am On Jul 03, 2022
Lighthouse50:
I think the last time i read the bible, the messiah had eradicated eye for an eye mosaic law
Stay there ooo. Dey form holy holy.. Fulani's will kill u and you'd still go to hell. #defend ur self sad
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by colestephan86: 10:35am On Jul 03, 2022
Islie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOj3iTixjAM

Nowhere In The Bible Says A Christian Can't Defend Himself - Pastor Adeboye



https://dailytrust.com/killings-from-now-on-its-fire-for-fire-adeboye-asks-followers-to-defend-themselves
Pastors contributed alot to the mess, by not telling their congregation to pray while being killed.
Israel where the Jesus was born is ruthless in dealing with terrorists, and when it's time to pray they know how to do it more
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by Geopex(m): 10:36am On Jul 03, 2022
am4truth:


Show some respect.... Someone of 80 years old you are calling mumu.....
Are you sure you are okay?
You lack home training.

Your shouldn't have reply to this person. By the word u sha know them
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by Geopex(m): 10:38am On Jul 03, 2022
iramure:
The name of Jesus is sharper than 2 edged sword, in the name of jesus every knee shall bow and every tougue confess that jesus is the lord. I want to urge all Christians to depend on the name of jesus, nothing shall by any means hurt them. You don't need to carry any weapon. Whenever uou are confronted with threats from terrorists, just shout JESUS, HE is every ready to prove HIMSELF. try this and thank me later .
Seems u turn your Bible upside down.
Go back and read more. If u die when u need to apply principle in defending yourself. U are going to hell
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by Reference(m): 10:38am On Jul 03, 2022
Wow, such a different tone from the sayings in 2014/15....
Reality has berthed on the shores of the church and the RCCG in particular.
The question now is, how can a sheep become a lion at age.??
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by Naajjii: 10:39am On Jul 03, 2022
Kingozymandias:
I have been saying this for long . If Muslims come to kill you butcher them all and burn their bodies . No mercy. If someone comes to take your life take theirs in defense .

Muslims don't act against those who kill us so time to start killing them back
Is it all Muslims should be butchered or you are referring only to fulani herdsmen or bandits or Ipod/esn bokoharam or unknown gunmen terrorists?
What about if Ipod unknown gunmen terrorists come to kill you? Or yahoo yahoo ritualist?
You will be sitting and hiding online come out and make that declaration let Muslims see you, ewu grin
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by bobgentle: 10:41am On Jul 03, 2022
Kobojunkie:
He did that indeed.
Luke 22:35-38 (KJV) And he said unto them, When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing? And they said, Nothing.
Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end.
And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough.

ITS TIME TO WAKE UP COZ OUR GENERATION CANNOT BE THE LAST GENERATION TO SERVE GOD IN NOGERIA :LETS (1)FAST (2)PRAY (3)UNITE OURSELVES IN LOVE &have a common front and never be divided by the agents of ISLAMISATION AGENDA and Satan who is their base(4) Let's be well armed with our spiritual weapons Eph 6:12.
those who have sword and guns should train others for the needful times coz even NEHEMIAH in the bible when they were rebuilding the Jerusalem wall were well harmed and ones the enemies attacked the were in uniyy to fight back till they accomplished the work.
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by OriOko88(m): 10:42am On Jul 03, 2022
Cokahot:
Scammer. Una for go buy the Lords chosen vest na. Scammers
Seems the church have scammed ur father before that is why he left no legacy for you,his son. Sorry I feel ur pain cheesy

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Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by arantess: 10:43am On Jul 03, 2022
weaponss freeeeeeeee
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by Naajjii: 10:43am On Jul 03, 2022
colestephan86:

Pastors contributed alot to the mess, by not telling their congregation to pray while being killed.
Israel where the Jesus was born is ruthless in dealing with terrorists, and when it's time to pray they know how to do it more
Isreal is not a Christian land, it's for Jews and Muslims.
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by DavDam(m): 10:44am On Jul 03, 2022
It's until both Muslims and Christians faithfuls come together and work in one accord to achieve common goal(end Nigeria's problems) will there be peace in this country... And i don't think that will ever happen because we're not the same... We're not one....Religion is Nigeria's biggest problem..... And Nigeria unlike most other countries has many diverses of ethnic groups, tribes, cultures and languages.... Understanding is the first thing to outstanding results.... Everyone is fighting for where they belong... I'm a Yoruba, Igbo, Hausa, Tiv, Idoma, e.t.c .... I'm a Christian, I can't deny my faith but we have to come together.... If not, we will keep suffering, mourning, and complaining in this country....

#writer
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by Naajjii: 10:45am On Jul 03, 2022
onuman:
But is it not because of proceeds from crude oil and gas deposits in the Niger Delta that 200 million people in Nigeria want to die in one Nigeria?

If Nigeria is a country of Oyibo people, they would have divided Nigeria into more manageable countries.
Sorry black man. How can you carrying guns stop people who share same country with you from killing you? They want to occupy your lands.

How about Ipod unknown gunmen terrorists ?
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by kals4luv990(m): 10:49am On Jul 03, 2022
Lighthouse50:
I think the last time i read the bible, the messiah had eradicated eye for an eye mosaic law
OUR JEHOVAH IS A GOD OF WAR..SHOW ME WHERE THE BIBLE SAYS WE SHOULD KEEP CALM WHILE WE ARE SLAUGHTERED

Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by Kingozymandias(m): 10:53am On Jul 03, 2022
Naajjii:

Is it all Muslims should be butchered or you are referring only to fulani herdsmen or bandits or Ipod/esn bokoharam or unknown gunmen terrorists?
What about if Ipod unknown gunmen terrorists come to kill you? Or yahoo yahoo ritualist?
You will be sitting and hiding online come out and make that declaration let Muslims see you, ewu grin

You don't seem to understand the situation.
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by Nobody: 10:54am On Jul 03, 2022
Lighthouse50:
I think the scripture says pay no one evil for evil but repel evil with good
Evil in this regard don't mean when your enemy wants to kill you. It's sad modern day Christianity discarded the old testament. Read it...it's still scriptures...the bible never asked us to be cowards, in the bible were many instances when God commanded the Israelites to go after their enemies, also the story of Elijah raining down fire. You don't understand scriptures more than Adeboye. These are different times.
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by CSTRR: 10:58am On Jul 03, 2022
Ken4Christ:
This is not a good advice. First, we don't have access to the kind of weapons we need to defend ourselves. Second, if we try to get the weapons illegally, we might be arrested for being in possession of it. Third, we are not trained to fight that way. So in an attempt to defend ourselves, we might still be on the losing side.

The scripture says that the weapons of our warfare are not carnal. It is spiritual.

There is something we are not doing right. Where are the angels we read of in the Bible? Are they dead? Is our God not the same God of king Jehosaphath who led a war with praise singers and the three nations that came against Judah fought and killed themselves.

What I expect Papa Adeboye to do is to give direction to the church like declaring days of fasting and prayers and praise night.

The God of the Bible is still the same God. What he did in the Bible, he can still do.

Let the leaders and worship leaders forsake their sins and cry out to God. He will scatter their plans and save us.
I hope you are sarcastic.
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by IamMobisola(f): 11:00am On Jul 03, 2022
FERNANDEZISBACK:
Their god is now too weak to defend them. grin

The god Muslims serve is commanding them to kill Christians and anyone that doesn't believe in their religion but you want Christians to sit down and fold their hands every time because our God commanded us not to pay evil with evil? Lol
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by advocatejare(m): 11:01am On Jul 03, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


I'm only echoing the words of the world's most wonderful counselor of all time the Prince of Peace: Jesus of Nazareth! Isaiah 9:6

So i'm not interested in what any other person says Sir! smiley
May I ask you a question sir?

Why was jesus violent to those that turned the house of God into a place of buying and selling?

Why did jesus use whip on them?
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by FERNANDEZISBACK: 11:03am On Jul 03, 2022
IamMobisola:


The god Muslims serve is commanding them to kill Christians and anyone that doesn't believe in their religion but you want Christians to sit down and fold their hands every time because our God commanded us not to pay evil with evil? Lol
What then is the use of your lifeless god if he can't protect ya? grin

Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by InvertedHammer: 11:04am On Jul 03, 2022
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The only thing the Nigerian version of Jesus has achieved in terms of security is leading his followers to untimely death. How come other Christian nations do not succumb to this "do not revenge" doctrines? Name any country inhabited by sane beings that will get her citizens murdered daily and the moronic citizens will be looking forward to Jesus to come and save them?

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Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by IamMobisola(f): 11:04am On Jul 03, 2022
FERNANDEZISBACK:

What then is the use of your lifeless god if he can't protect ya? grin
And what then is the use of their Muslim's God if he can't do his dirty work himself that he needs the help of humans ?
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by Ezechimaobim(m): 11:04am On Jul 03, 2022
Rubbish
Come out straight and tell them that religion is scam
They should face government Because government and s the supreme power
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by FERNANDEZISBACK: 11:06am On Jul 03, 2022
IamMobisola:

And what then is the use of their Muslim's God if he can't do his dirty work himself that he needs the help of humans ?
I don't believe gods nonsense..your lifeless god also need yall Dumbos help to spread his work..what can he do by himself? grin

Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by OCHKESTINE(m): 11:10am On Jul 03, 2022
How much can one get pump action with bullet in Abuja?
I will get license as well.
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by Lighthouse50: 11:13am On Jul 03, 2022
Fairmedia:

Evil in this regard don't mean when your enemy wants to kill you. It's sad modern day Christianity discarded the old testament. Read it...it's still scriptures...the bible never asked us to be cowards, in the bible were many instances when God commanded the Israelites to go after their enemies, also the story of Elijah raining down fire. You don't understand scriptures more than Adeboye. These are different times.
Mr man pls return to the scripture and read with your heart. If they chanse you in one city, flee to the other says Christ. This is where the patience and endurance of the saints lie.
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by IamMobisola(f): 11:15am On Jul 03, 2022
FERNANDEZISBACK:

I don't believe gods nonsense..your lifeless god also need yall Dumbos help to spread his work..what can he do by himself? grin
Lol.
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by Nobody: 11:16am On Jul 03, 2022
Lighthouse50:
Mr man pls return to the scripture and read with your heart. If they chanse you in one city, flee to the other says Christ. This is where the patience and endurance of the saints lie.
The bible is not all about Christ. Moses, Elijah, Abraham where all in there. Even Jesus at a point picked the big stick when merchants were polluting the church, turning it to a market place. The originators of modern day Christianity- Romans were warlords.
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by FERNANDEZISBACK: 11:18am On Jul 03, 2022
IamMobisola:

Lol.
Sorry I sounded rude.. smiley
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by Davemarine: 11:20am On Jul 03, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Not only did Jesus Christ make it clear that it is of sin to defend yourself as His follower from an attacker ... undecided
.... He also said it is of sin to pray against an enemy using His name. undecided
Similar teachings are found written of in Luke 6 vs 27 - 38 undecided



What does Matthew 5:39 mean? 
The Sermon on the Mount, which began early in chapter 5, contains difficult concepts for human nature to accept. Jesus is setting a seemingly impossible standard for those who would enter the kingdom of heaven (Matthew 5:20). Refusing to murder is not enough: don't even insult another in anger (Matthew 5:21–22). Not committing adultery is not enough: don't even intentionally lust (Matthew 5:27–28). His larger point is that none are righteous enough to enter heaven, based on their own good deeds (Matthew 5:48). Everyone, no matter how "holy" they may seem, must receive forgiveness of sins and righteousness through faith in Christ.

This verse is often badly misunderstood, due to two ideas that are less common today: lex talionis and the idea of being slapped on the cheek.

In the prior verse (Matthew 5:38), Jesus referred to a rule in the Old Testament (Deuteronomy 19:21) called the lex talionis, often summarized as "eye for an eye." After thousands of years of Christian influence, and in fact because of that influence, modern people often think this as a cruel standard. In truth, God established this to limit violence and revenge. The point of "eye for an eye" was that punishment is to be proportional to the crime, rather than an ever-escalating cycle of revenge.

Jesus does not dispute the legal aspects of "eye for an eye," so far as they apply to a courtroom or the government. But in personal terms, He sets a much more challenging standard. Limiting revenge is not God's intent for the hearts of His people. Refusing revenge is God's will and Jesus' command to His followers (Romans 12:19). This does not mean Christians cannot flee, nor does it mean that blatant violence and evil should be met with total pacifism (Luke 22:36). It does mean that so far as we're able, Christians are not to "return evil for evil" (Romans 12:20–21).

This is consistent with Jesus' comments about turning the other cheek. In the ancient world, the right hand was always assumed to be dominant. Jesus specifically refers to the "right cheek," here." That implies a backhanded movement: to slap someone on the right cheek, with the right hand, is more intimidation and abuse than mayhem. Even in the modern world, the term "slap in the face" is used in reference to insults and slights. To "turn the other cheek" implies taking that insult and accepting that another might be on the way.

In short, Christ's command here does not mean
[B]you must do nothing while someone beats you into a bloody pulp.[/b] He is speaking to believers who will experience persecution and hate from the world (Matthew 5:11–12). The proper Christian response to discrimination, mocking, or insults is to simply let it go: "don't resist the evil person." Instead, prove that such acts are not worth a response.
Re: Killings: It’s Fire For Fire’, Adeboye Asks Followers To Defend Themselves by Lighthouse50: 11:21am On Jul 03, 2022
kals4luv990:
OUR JEHOVAH IS A GOD OF WAR..SHOW ME WHERE THE BIBLE SAYS WE SHOULD KEEP CALM WHILE WE ARE SLAUGHTERED
Have you not read where Jesus Christ when they chase you in a city. Flee to another. Have you not read where he told us to be faithful even unto death. Have you not read when he explained the horrors in matthew 10 where he said we will be hated by all nations for his sake. He ask us to flee and even when caught, we should remain faithful to death. There he said we shovld not fear those who kill the body.

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