Luke.22.36 Then He said to them, "But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a knapsack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one. (NKJV)
quote author=Lighthouse50 post=114357577]I think the scripture says pay no one evil for evil but repel evil with good[/quote]

Lighthouse50:
I think the last time i read the bible, the messiah had eradicated eye for an eye mosaic law

You have no understanding.. This is self defence and not revenge.. even the constitution and criminal laws recognise the right to self defence

For more than a century after the start of Christianity, they refused to join the army of their nations because they wouldn't kill but christians understand better now that it is not an act of personal grudges but an act of defense.
However, christians in vulnerable states may not be able to defend themselves because they lack the awareness, training and weapon to do so therefore we should rather compel the government to play their roles in securing life and properties.
There should be renewed agitation for state police and community police not under the control of the federal government and the federal police should be trained to complement not rivaled such outfit.
Landlord associations should understand the times we are living in, to become more vigilant and give information to the police.
Some of our practices that are not in tune with modernity should be banned like open grazing, hawking or any other practice that allow 'aimless movement' from one point to another.
Christians are the salt of the world, they should not compete with the people of other religion in a show of madness. Our patience has been keeping this country together. It will someday be rewarded in this country.

AstroHenri:


On social media you are free to your Opinions and on Earth u will reap the reward for blasphemy

Blasphemy kill you there. So adeboye is now God that shouldn't be blasphemed... Clown

GodPrince:
The idiots are admitting that their God does not exist to defend or protect them. These people will forever be bloody fools, finally Christians are about to return to their old status as Terrorists. Soon is going to be Muslim Terrorists vs Christian Terrorists, Lol. Atheists will be very happy to see you guys kill yourselves

I agree on your lines. But why would Atheists be happy seeing us killing ourself?

MaxInDHouse:


The time to prove your faithfulness in Jesus is now, if you want to be on Jesus' side you must decide now.

Jesus revealed to John that during the end time all religions under Satan's control will be carried away with the wind Satan blew in the air which is wiping out humanity completely {Revelations 6:3-4} Jesus even told us that if not for the Born Again Christians no human will remain on planet earth when Satan launch the campaign globally! Matthew 24:22

We're gradually getting there when all false religious leaders will be blinded by Satan's darkness {Joel 2:31; Act 2:20} that will cover the sky spiritually and nobody will see the light except just one group: Real Born Again brothers of Christ that will be feeding Jesus' real followers globally! Matthew 24:45

So by the time Satan has finished with the master plan to carry the whole world into destruction along with him those feeding from the spiritual table of Jesus' brothers will be separated from Satan's agents! Revelations 18:4

Today all religionists in the world will be asked to pick up their weapons and fight either in support of their religion or protect themselves {Revelations 6:3-4} but Jesus' real earthly subjects will never pick up weapons for any reason whatsoever {Matthew 26:52} they will not allow Satan's wind to carry them away by surprise! John 15:14

Thanks for reminding us the words of our Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus in this time when billions claiming Christians are ignoring Christ's orders and ready to obey the teachers they chose for themselves! 2Timothy 4:3

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

You are such an educated illiterate for fostering this falsehood. Nigeria will not go the way of Syria, Keep shut!

Ken4Christ:
This is not a good advice. First, we don't have access to the kind of weapons we need to defend ourselves. Second, if we try to get the weapons illegally, we might be arrested for being in possession of it. Third, we are not trained to fight that way. So in an attempt to defend ourselves, we might still be on the losing side.

The scripture says that the weapons of our warfare are not carnal. It is spiritual.

There is something we are not doing right. Where are the angels we read of in the Bible? Are they dead? Is our God not the same God of king Jehosaphath who led a war with praise singers and the three nations that came against Judah fought and killed themselves.

What I expect Papa Adeboye to do is to give direction to the church like declaring days of fasting and prayers and praise night.

The God of the Bible is still the same God. What he did in the Bible, he can still do.

Let the leaders and worship leaders forsake their sins and cry out to God. He will scatter their plans and save us.

This Morosoph thinks that he knows God more than us. You have been emotionaly subjugated by fulanism and intellectually bankrupt. Keep shut forever!

Kobojunkie:
Not only did Jesus Christ make it clear that it is of sin to defend yourself as His follower from an attacker ...
.... He also said it is of sin to pray against an enemy using His name.
Similar teachings are found written of in Luke 6 vs 27 - 38

una go de south the enjoy una self,wen main christain in North I facing real persecution,come here de quote Bible up and down,no be person write am,David nd others did not the fight fr God,Jesus even defend his father's temple wen the were selling in his father's house,mk una dey mk dis terrorist wipe una all out of face of the Earth,de quote up and down,go north and do this preaching u guys wont

Lighthouse50:
I think the scripture says pay no one evil for evil but repel evil with good

But the same scripture also says it is a right thing to pay evil to the wicked...2.thesselonians ..1:6.

Mk una no defend una church,land and save ur kids life, isrealite till today defend there land ,same romans,na ppl way bring religion,Africa just carry am fr head de teach oyibo pple christain religion,the owo massacre happened,ppl HV forgotten it,becos it did not happened to u or some one dear to u,and u tink this ppl are not going to unleash another one soon,u guys must be joking shaa

Fairmedia:
I remember the part of the bible that says"an eye for an eye" there was a reason for this. If you don't defend yourself, you are not a Christian you are a lame duck, a coward. The Christian family in Nigeria, should take a cue from Israel, spend money on guns, security, secure your domains. Work with state and local governments to secure your domains, use your youths, buy them guns and bombs to decimate the enemy. I remember a part of the bible that says "there is a time for everything under the sun" this is a time to go after your enemies, like the Israelites did in the bible, not a time to be hiding, praying and dying, pray and fight.

May I ask 'Who are the enemies now? Whom are you going to start Fighting

Are you going to start fighting your Neighbor down South who is a Muslim? Or whom are you going to start defending yourself against?

This is one of the reasons given by those who says "Religion' is the Number problem of this World".
Religion create more problems than what they claim to represent.

Instead of us to redefined our ways/part for general understanding and progress, we always want to be Hyppocritical in our propose Solutions.
A Godly persons wouldn't do that to their Society.


There is no differences between Nigeria Religious Leaders and Her Politicians.
And that's the main reason we're not making progress as a Nation.

Ken4Christ:
This is not a good advice. First, we don't have access to the kind of weapons we need to defend ourselves. Second, if we try to get the weapons illegally, we might be arrested for being in possession of it. Third, we are not trained to fight that way. So in an attempt to defend ourselves, we might still be on the losing side.

The scripture says that the weapons of our warfare are not carnal. It is spiritual.

There is something we are not doing right. Where are the angels we read of in the Bible? Are they dead? Is our God not the same God of king Jehosaphath who led a war with praise singers and the three nations that came against Judah fought and killed themselves.

What I expect Papa Adeboye to do is to give direction to the church like declaring days of fasting and prayers and praise night.

The God of the Bible is still the same God. What he did in the Bible, he can still do.

Let the leaders and worship leaders forsake their sins and cry out to God. He will scatter their plans and save us.

Everyone has suddenly become a theologian with a good grasp of scriptural truth. If you think your understanding is better hold on to it. After all he was not talking to you or are you one of his children? Listen to your own father and let him speak to his children. Do note however that his message is laud and clear.

Ken4Christ:
This is not a good advice. First, we don't have access to the kind of weapons we need to defend ourselves. Second, if we try to get the weapons illegally, we might be arrested for being in possession of it. Third, we are not trained to fight that way. So in an attempt to defend ourselves, we might still be on the losing side.

The scripture says that the weapons of our warfare are not carnal. It is spiritual.

There is something we are not doing right. Where are the angels we read of in the Bible? Are they dead? Is our God not the same God of king Jehosaphath who led a war with praise singers and the three nations that came against Judah fought and killed themselves.

What I expect Papa Adeboye to do is to give direction to the church like declaring days of fasting and prayers and praise night.

The God of the Bible is still the same God. What he did in the Bible, he can still do.

Let the leaders and worship leaders forsake their sins and cry out to God. He will scatter their plans and save us.

...Anyway, What do you know? I'm sure you think you know something...

Nasir123:


May I ask 'Who are the enemies now? Whom are you going to start Fighting

Are you going to start fighting your Neighbor down South who is a Muslim? Or whom are you going to start defending yourself against?

This is one of the reasons given by those who says "Religion' is the Number problem of this World".
Religion create more problems than what they claim to represent.

Instead of us to redefined our ways/part for general understanding and progress, we always want to be Hyppocritical in our propose Solutions.
A Godly persons wouldn't do that to their Society.


There is no differences between Nigeria Religious Leaders and Her Politicians.
And that's the main reason we're not making progress as a Nation.

Are you blind?

Who are those targeting and killing Christians?

Target the Fulani terrorists enemies of humanity, of course.

FERNANDEZISBACK:

Yur papa,

They should stop going to church for mirage protection if they really have sense of their own. Church na scam.

Lighthouse50:
I think the scripture says pay no one evil for evil but repel evil with good

The good in today's world is in the tools. U no want get sense abi

ajagidiagbo1:
They should stop going to church for mirage protection if they really have sense of their own. Church na scam.

So make ur headslamming junkies take over right? We will go to church with our tools. Make una dey come. We done ready. U can't stop the church. Worse we go wake the spirit of the crusaders

Kobojunkie:
Not only did Jesus Christ make it clear that it is of sin to defend yourself as His follower from an attacker ...
.... He also said it is of sin to pray against an enemy using His name.
Similar teachings are found written of in Luke 6 vs 27 - 38

Oga go and readLuke 22:36

How many guns una go buy sef. Hope you can get AK79 for all members of your church. Una too like joke for that country. Didn't know God said we should all get weapons to protect ourselves lol.

As for CAN, no comment because those ones are like Nigeria politicians. Sorry for anyone or group taking them serious

Kobojunkie:
He did that indeed.

Quote bible forever, we will defend ourselves by any means possible, nobody has d monopoly for madness n killings, we can kill and repent later.

Kobojunkie:
Not only did Jesus Christ make it clear that it is of sin to defend yourself as His follower from an attacker ...
.... He also said it is of sin to pray against an enemy using His name.
Similar teachings are found written of in Luke 6 vs 27 - 38

So it is ok for Christians to always present their neck for slaughter abi?.If Christians continue to be this dossil there won't be any Christian left in Nigeria by the time the Fulanis start slaughtering them one by one because a scripture was misinterpreted to make the Christians helpless and foolish at the same time.

This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord,I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them.
And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
It means that, when we read them in the word,the inclination to do them is in our hearts by the Holy Spirit.
Grace is a teacher and His name is Jesus.
Grace is the power of God that will fight for us,if only our gathering is to observe Him, behold His beauty, and be transfixed by His loveliness.
This battle is not ours, this battle is of the Lord, and He knows where to hit the enemies of the Church.
He said," where two or three are gathered in My name , there I am in their midst.
Let the Church begin to preach pure Grace, not mixture of law and Grace, but pure Grace
The teachers of law are hard and mean, they opened the door of oppression and mockery of the Church to the enemies.
Grace is amazing,ever present.
The devil knows that the solution to the world's crises is Jesus being known, not as they are projecting Him now, but in knowing Him through the eyes of His finished work.
Jesus Christ is Lord.
You can receive the Prince of Peace into your life today.

These tricksters, jobbermen, fake prophet/prophetess fake pastors, imam, Uztaz, mallams etc move around with heavily armed security personnel but they sell anointing oil & aprons to their gullible followers.

MURIC, PFN, CAN etc are group of political jobbermen.

They ask Nigerians to defend themselves against heavily armed IPOBians pigs, Bandits, Terrorist etc with their bear hands.

Nigerians be wise.

Ken4Christ:
This is not a good advice. First, we don't have access to the kind of weapons we need to defend ourselves. Second, if we try to get the weapons illegally, we might be arrested for being in possession of it. Third, we are not trained to fight that way. So in an attempt to defend ourselves, we might still be on the losing side.

The scripture says that the weapons of our warfare are not carnal. It is spiritual.

There is something we are not doing right. Where are the angels we read of in the Bible? Are they dead? Is our God not the same God of king Jehosaphath who led a war with praise singers and the three nations that came against Judah fought and killed themselves.

What I expect Papa Adeboye to do is to give direction to the church like declaring days of fasting and prayers and praise night.

The God of the Bible is still the same God. What he did in the Bible, he can still do.

Let the leaders and worship leaders forsake their sins and cry out to God. He will scatter their plans and save us.

The Jews are the only nation on earth with direct covenant with God yet they don't depend on only prayers to defend themselves in times of war they would have since gone extinct if they were only depending on prayers. The same bible u are quoting also advised christains to take what belong to them force.

Baba be calming down, we are not the delegates that rejected ur star boy "Osibanjo"

This man is preaching terrorism

TheMan3:
an eye for an eye is a law given to Israel for the Jews among themselves. The law didn't apply to outsuders

Precisely! Instead the commandment that Jesus Christ gave to those who are of the Kingdom of God is as detailed above and it stipulates that you not defend yourself when attacked by enemies because you belong to Him.

Baba has his well armed personal bodyguards and the congregation has only Jesus to protect them.

They will later understand why Apostle Johnson suleiman seems aggressive in his opinion

oscarlamba:
pls can you explain further using David Vs Goliath as a case study? I would love to hear ur take on this matter because I'm getting confuse

As one who claims to be a follower of Jesus Christ, you are not called according to God's Old Covenant Law of Moses, God's Constitution given to the people of Israel- those born with the blood of Jacob coursing through their veins - as the National Constitution of the Nation of Israel in the Land of Canaan - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20. So it makes no sense of any kind to try to model your life after even David in any way or form.

Instead you are called according to God's New Covenant Law and Truth, Jesus Christ, in the Kingdom of God and are so expected to live your life in submission to and obedience of the teachings(and commandments) of Jesus Christ, the Law in the Kingdom of God - John 14 vs 15 - 25 & John 15 vs 14.

Jesus Christ said you are not to defend yourself when attacked by enemies because of Him. Do you obey Jesus Christ whom you claim to love or do you simply ignore Him because you believe you know better than He in His own Kingdom?