TenQ:

Because we don't claim we know EVERYTHING: we leave the Unknown to the Uncaused First-Cause of Everything!

Even common sense tells us that IF the world and EVERYTHING in it is NOT an Accident, then there must be a PURPOSE of our Existing! We understand that as the Pinnacle of the Uncaused First-Cause of Everything's Creation, the Earth is a place of selection Of Humans with deserable traits.


To you on the other Hand,
1. You believe in the Miracle of spontaneous purposeless existence of the Universe and Everything in it, a product of evolution over billions of years
2. You believe that there is no Consciousness behind the existence of Everything seen and Unseen.
3. You believe that, Reality is determined ONLY by that which can be explained by the natural sciences (which came into existence less than 13.8billion years ago)
4. A few of you chose Atheism as a reaction against the God they once knew for whatever the reason peculiar to them.


Because of all this:
According to Atheists, you have no PURPOSE in existence. You are just mere Stardust.

Some of you want especially us Christians to reject our God and choose HOPELESSNESS like you.

Do you think this makes sense?

This is not my argument.
My argument is Christianity is full of shit

Father0fjesus:
This is not my argument.
My argument is Christianity is full of shit

It doesn't matter!
I didn't say anything untrue about you Atheists, so don't gloss over them.

1. Do you think this makes sense that
Some of you want especially us Christians to reject our God and choose HOPELESSNESS like you?

2. What do YOU as atheists have in exchange for the Hope Christians have in their Creator?


3. Are you an Atheist or Agnostic?

TenQ:

Sorry, your punch is terribly feeble. Like a drowning man seeking straws to clutch at.

Only the one who is having a Deformed AND Handicapped Slave-Master should be disturbed!

Deformed and handicapped yhwh o 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽

Father0fjesus:
This is not my argument.
My argument is Christianity is full of shit

Hey future thief TenQ - FYA

Cc: potential thief TenQ

LegalWolf:


Deformed and handicapped yhwh o 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽

I've closed your case here.

I didn't send you to adopt a Schizophrenic Messanger of a Deformed Handicapped personality.

Go rest. If I need you, I'll call you. Just be civil and you will receive civility in return.

TenQ:

I've closed your case here.

I didn't send you to adopt a Schizophrenic Messanger of a Deformed Handicapped personality.

Go rest. If I need you, I'll call you. Just be civil and you will receive civility in return.

Civil with a future thief that worships a blood guzzling imbe?

Deformed and handicapped yhwh o 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽

Father0fjesus:
lol, everyone is just coming up with shit in their head

will pretend like I didn't see this, I will let it slide

Hey my Nemesis, spanker and a destined thief!!!

You know I love you 🥰 I really needed ti come do this point!

TenQ:

……

I told you that TenQ is your Nemesis on Nairaland didn't I?
First, I drove you off active too-know on religious threads on NL. You suddenly became mute after much spoon feeding you of things Islamic Scholars hide from you. You were the one who brought yourself for spanking today. The stone thrown at a palm tree is what the palm tree throws back. When you learn to be civil, you will receive back civil treatment.

….

Whenever I need you to comment on a thread, I'll call you. All the time you were nursing your wounds, did I disturb or pester you?

Have a good night rest

(underlined mine)

Do you think I’m disturbing you? Do you remotely expect me to stop ? Fa fa fa foul!

I have the constitutional, unfettered, and unrestricted RIGHT to mention you as much as I can and you have NO RIGHT to complain. If it disturbs you, that is your business as I can’t help it!


Again, send my regards to your god. It’s pronouns has been changed to they and he’s an imbe 💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽

@TenQ You keep asking and quoting what you don't understand. In Luke 20:37-38 christ was talking about resurrection. That is the keyword. What christ is saying their is that though abraham, isaac and jacob were dead but in the resurrection they shall live again. They passed their tests and are in the spiritual realm of the righteous as dead souls. They are dead cos they can't function on earth. The aim of God is that we inherit eternal life on paradise earth. They can only inherit this when they resurrect on the last day. They are in the realm of the righteous waiting for the last day when christ will rule as king on earth. God call them living cos every righteous person will live forever on the last day even if they die - eternal life. This is what christ is trying to explain their. This is very simple. Next time read in context to understand. Will answer your other questions 2moro. You will know how i got my reborn thesis when you stop believing and start knowing

TenQ:

I wish you can be a man and talk to me directly, not like a coward scared of a spider on his doorstep.

I asked a question to which YOU don't have any intelligent response : and here your excuse is that you can't answer because I want you to be chasing me!

What if my response to you was exactly the same? Is that not hypocrisy!?

The major WEAKNESS of Cults like Islam and JW organisation is that, your fake theologies break down with simple questions!

Are you now willing to respond to my questions?

With respect to Matt 10:28
Matt 10:28
28 Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Instead, fear the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

Question:
1. What is the Soul of a person?
2. When a person dies, what happens to his Soul?
3. Why can a human being not kill or destroy the Soul?

1. It is the life of a person according to the context
2. The Hebrew meaning of the word Soul which is translated as Nephesh whci literally means life, living being or creature and used for both man and animals. Since the soul is the person, once a person dies, the soul dies (the entire being) dies. Same with animals. So, a dead person is a dead soul.. A dead horse is a dead soul... Souls are born and they die. They are immortal. Only Jehovah God and Jesus are immortal
3. God does not look at us as mere flesh or dust. It is the flesh we see and kill. Thst is the limit for humans. They can't do anything beyond that. Note that, when God made man, it consisted of the combination of body and spirit (life force) to make a soul or person of Adam. Since humans have no control of the spirit (life force), they cannot kill the soul or the entire BEING. The Jews would have done that to Jesus Christ to prevent his predicted resurrection. Only Jehovah God, the Maker of life can KILL the soul (the entire life or life or personality) of such person beyond any hope of resurrection. You may get killed for be righteous. That is all they can do. Jehovah will reward your integrity and give you back your life. But if you compromise from fear of being killed by humans, Jehovah not only has the power to destroy you (your body) but the entire person of you forevrr6from his memory. That is who you should fear. Thst is what Jesus meant

So TenQ, grow in your understanding and stop being childish. Based on that same verse, as Jesus himself said the Soul can be killed, Is the soul immortal or not.

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1. Why is it difficult for you to answer the simple comprehension questions. It isn't as they told you to memorize?

If Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are dead and know nothing, why did God say they are ALIVE to Him
Luk 20:37-38:
"Now that the dead are raised, even Moses showed at the bush, when he calls the Lord the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. For he is not a God of the dead, but of the living: for all live to him."

Jesus gave the answer
To us as humans, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are Dead
BUT
To God, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are NOT Dead

Now, answer this question:
According to you, Are Abraham, Isaac and Jacob DEAD or ALIVE to God?



Are your DEAD loved ones ALIVE to you (fresh in your memory with a longing to see them again) or are they DEAD (you don't care about them cos they are non - existent to you or simply gone forever and nothing you can do about it)
I would have commended you if you were asking a sincere question but you love to fool yourself and bury your head in the mud so remain that way. You would have gotten a clear answer by YOURSELF if you read from verse 27 cos Jesus was questioned by people that did not believe in the resurrection. He quoted from the scripture by mentioning three faithful men of God who were dead for several centuries and they claim to the children of one of those men, Abraham. In what sense were they alive to God? Jehovah still remember their good works, their faithfulness, and he miss them so much and longs to bring them back to life (resurrection). They are LIVING to him and he has not forgotten them till now. Those who exercise faith in God, even when they die are still living to him and he will resurrect them cos he is the God of the living unlike other gods who have no such power to bring their dead back to life. Those who reject God are dead to him, what does he want to use their memories for? Imagine your best friend robbed you of millions, slander you, and later dies. Is he ALIVE (missing him and longing to see him) in your memory like your late relatives or is he DEAD? If you had the power, will you want to bring him to life or allow him remain dead? What about your dead LOVED ones? If you had the power, will you resurrect them? Yes! Because they are livin to you, they remain fresh in your mind and you miss them. That is what Jesus meant and sadly, your blind pride and ignorance won't let you receive sense.

[quote author=TenQ post=122830413]
I wish you can be a man and talk to me directly, not like a coward scared of a spider on his doorstep.

I asked a question to which YOU don't have any intelligent response : and here your excuse is that you can't answer because I want you to be chasing me!

What if my response to you was exactly the same? Is that not hypocrisy!?

I believe that the soul does not die but you are quoting where Jesus said it cn be KILLED. If that is not Hypocrisy, is it not deliberate ignorance you are showing

bobestman:
@TenQ You keep asking and quoting what you don't understand. In Luke 20:37-38 christ was talking about resurrection. That is the keyword. What christ is saying their is that though abraham, isaac and jacob were dead but in the resurrection they shall live again. They passed their tests and are in the spiritual realm of the righteous as dead souls. They are dead cos they can't function on earth. The aim of God is that we inherit eternal life on paradise earth. They can only inherit this when they resurrect on the last day. They are in the realm of the righteous waiting for the last day when christ will rule as king on earth. God call them living cos every righteous person will live forever on the last day even if they die - eternal life. This is what christ is trying to explain their. This is very simple. Next time read in context to understand. Will answer your other questions 2moro. You will know how i got my reborn thesis when you stop believing and start knowing

Luk 20:37-38:
"Now that the dead are raised, even Moses showed at the bush, when he calls the Lord the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. For he is not a God of the dead, but of the living: for all live to him."

Jesus was initially speaking about resurection however Jesus made a
Reference to Moses:
who calls the Lord the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.
Who were ALREADY Dead

Jesus then said:
The reason Why Moses did that was Because In GOD, ALL are ALIVE to Him


Question:
Is this not contradictory that Moses said "God IS the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob when they were Clearly Dead as of this time AND God is NOT the God of the dead?

You see that your concept of @resurrection break down woefully!
Again:
If Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are dead, and God is NOT the God of the Dead, how can God be their God?

Aemmyjah:


1. It is the life of a person according to the context

Mat 10:28:
"And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell."

Luk 12:4-5:
"And I say to you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do. But I will forewarn you whom you shall fear: Fear him, which after he has killed has power to cast into hell; yes, I say to you, Fear him."

But humans can kill a PERSON can't they?

Meaning that your definition is wrong in the context of Matt10:28 and Lk12:4-5

Aemmyjah:

2. The Hebrew meaning of the word Soul which is translated as Nephesh whci literally means life, living being or creature and used for both man and animals. Since the soul is the person, once a person dies, the soul dies (the entire being) dies. Same with animals. So, a dead person is a dead soul.. A dead horse is a dead soul... Souls are born and they die. They are immortal. Only Jehovah God and Jesus are immortal

You have just said ONE meaning of the word Soul.
The definition of Soul can vary according to the context as
a. A living Physical Being
b. A Person or a person's total Self
c. The Emotion
d. Immaterial Essence of a Being


Can a human being kill the life, living being or creature ?

If they can, then you are extremely wrong in the context of Matt10:28 and Lk12:4-5

Aemmyjah:

3. God does not look at us as mere flesh or dust. It is the flesh we see and kill. Thst is the limit for humans. They can't do anything beyond that. Note that, when God made man, it consisted of the combination of body and spirit (life force) to make a soul or person of Adam. Since humans have no control of the spirit (life force), they cannot kill the soul or the entire BEING. The Jews would have done that to Jesus Christ to prevent his predicted resurrection. Only Jehovah God, the Maker of life can KILL the soul (the entire life or life or personality) of such person beyond any hope of resurrection. You may get killed for be righteous. That is all they can do. Jehovah will reward your integrity and give you back your life. But if you compromise from fear of being killed by humans, Jehovah not only has the power to destroy you (your body) but the entire person of you forevrr6from his memory. That is who you should fear. Thst is what Jesus meant

This is now a confused mix-up because according to your definition of SOUL, a human being can kill it!

This is contrary to the explicit words of Christ in Matt10:28

What then is the definition of Soul that a human being CANNOT kill?

Aemmyjah:
So TenQ, grow in your understanding and stop being childish. Based on that same verse, as Jesus himself said the Soul can be killed, Is the soul immortal or not.

JESUS said that ONLY God has the power to kill or destroy the Soul. There is no human being that can kill or destroy the Soul!


Question:
If the Soul can be killed, then it would be ALIVE isn't it?


I wonder who should grow in understanding?

TenQ:

1. Why is it difficult for you to answer the simple comprehension questions. It isn't as they told you to memorize?

If Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are dead and know nothing, why did God say they are ALIVE to Him
Luk 20:37-38:
"Now that the dead are raised, even Moses showed at the bush, when he calls the Lord the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. For he is not a God of the dead, but of the living: for all live to him."

Jesus gave the answer
To us as humans, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are Dead
BUT
To God, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are NOT Dead

Now, answer this question:
According to you, Are Abraham, Isaac and Jacob DEAD or ALIVE to God?

Aemmyjah:

Are your DEAD loved ones ALIVE to you (fresh in your memory with a longing to see them again) or are they DEAD (you don't care about them cos they are non - existent to you or simply gone forever and nothing you can do about it)

See how you are trying hard to twist narratives to fit REMEMBRANCE of the Dead!? SMH!

Every human being have the power to Remember their Dead Loved ones Just as God has the Power to Remember the Acts and Deeds of Every Human on earth.

Jesus was speaking about something ONLY God can do about the Soul of a Person.

Mat 10:28:
"And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell."

Luk 12:4-5:
"And I say to you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do. But I will forewarn you whom you shall fear: Fear him, which after he has killed has power to cast into hell; yes, I say to you, Fear him."

What does it mean according to Lk 12:5
Fear him, which after he has killed has power to cast into hell;

Aemmyjah:

I would have commended you if you were asking a sincere question but you love to fool yourself and bury your head in the mud so remain that way. You would have gotten a clear answer by YOURSELF if you read from verse 27 cos Jesus was questioned by people that did not believe in the resurrection. He quoted from the scripture by mentioning three faithful men of God who were dead for several centuries and they claim to the children of one of those men, Abraham. In what sense were they alive to God? Jehovah still remember their good works, their faithfulness, and he miss them so much and longs to bring them back to life (resurrection). They are LIVING to him and he has not forgotten them till now. Those who exercise faith in God, even when they die are still living to him and he will resurrect them cos he is the God of the living unlike other gods who have no such power to bring their dead back to life. Those who reject God are dead to him, what does he want to use their memories for? Imagine your best friend robbed you of millions, slander you, and later dies. Is he ALIVE (missing him and longing to see him) in your memory like your late relatives or is he DEAD? If you had the power, will you want to bring him to life or allow him remain dead? What about your dead LOVED ones? If you had the power, will you resurrect them? Yes! Because they are livin to you, they remain fresh in your mind and you miss them. That is what Jesus meant and sadly, your blind pride and ignorance won't let you receive sense.

1. The bolded in RED is correct!
2. The highlight in Yellow is a LIE Smuggled in to change the narrative of Christ.

Again:
Moses said:
"The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob" AND God is NOT the God of the Dead but the LIVING

What does it mean?
Abraham, Isaac and Jacob may be dead, buried and forgotten by men, HOWEVER they are ALIVE in God and not Dead.


Questions:
According to
Luk 12:4-5:
"And I say to you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do. But I will forewarn you whom you shall fear: Fear him, which after he has killed has power to cast into hell; yes, I say to you, Fear him."


1. If the dead know NOTHING, why should a person be AFRAID of what God can do to his Corpse AFTER he is dead?
2. Is it true that your organisation teach that the hell is simply the grave: if this is true, what is the difference between a human burying a corpse and God casting a corpse into hell?

TenQ:

I wish you can be a man and talk to me directly, not like a coward scared of a spider on his doorstep.

I asked a question to which YOU don't have any intelligent response : and here your excuse is that you can't answer because I want you to be chasing me!

What if my response to you was exactly the same? Is that not hypocrisy!?

Aemmyjah:

I believe that the soul does not die but you are quoting where Jesus said it cn be KILLED. If that is not Hypocrisy, is it not deliberate ignorance you are showing

Except I am misunderstanding you. All your arguments seem to point to the teachings of JW. Their a few primary thrusts with respect to this topic is
1. The soul is a person (partially correct but not correct in context)
2. Hell is the grave
3. The dead are in Unconscious non existent state
4. At resurection, God will restore the memory of the dead back to their bodies


I believe that in context, the Soul is the Immaterial Us and interface to the Physical and Spiritual Environments. In simple terms, man is a Trinity of
1. His Body:
By which he relates with his physical environment. This is his Physical Identity
2. His Spirit:
By which he relates with his spiritual Environment . This is his Spiritual Identity
3. His Soul:
By which he relates to both his Body and Spirit Intellectually, Emotionally and Logically . The Soul is what an individual knows as His Unique Personal IDENTITY which he calls as "I", "ME" or "MYSELF"!

The old testament does not distinguish between the Soul and Spirit of Man and thus use it interchangeably!

1Ths 5:23:
"And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ."

Dear nemesis and spanker TenQ

Happy workers day! 🤨

Regards

LegalWolf:
Dear nemesis and spanker TenQ

Happy workers day! 🤨

Regards

Happy workers day LegalWolf

TenQ:







See how you are trying hard to twist narratives to fit REMEMBRANCE of the Dead!? SMH!

Every human being have the power to Remember their Dead Loved ones Just as God has the Power to Remember the Acts and Deeds of Every Human on earth.

Jesus was speaking about something ONLY God can do about the Soul of a Person.

Mat 10:28:
"And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell."

Luk 12:4-5:
"And I say to you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do. But I will forewarn you whom you shall fear: Fear him, which after he has killed has power to cast into hell; yes, I say to you, Fear him."

What does it mean according to Lk 12:5
Fear him, which after he has killed has power to cast into hell;


1. The bolded in RED is correct!
2. The highlight in Yellow is a LIE Smuggled in to change the narrative of Christ.

Again:
Moses said:
"The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob" AND God is NOT the God of the Dead but the LIVING

What does it mean?
Abraham, Isaac and Jacob may be dead, buried and forgotten by men, HOWEVER they are ALIVE in God and not Dead.


Questions:
According to
Luk 12:4-5:
"And I say to you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do. But I will forewarn you whom you shall fear: Fear him, which after he has killed has power to cast into hell; yes, I say to you, Fear him."


1. If the dead know NOTHING, why should a person be AFRAID of what God can do to his Corpse AFTER he is dead?
2. Is it true that your organisation teach that the hell is simply the grave: if this is true, what is the difference between a human burying a corpse and God casting a corpse into hell?

. Even Jesus went to he'll according to the scriptures. Remain blind and bury your head in the sand. If you want to go to he'll, fare well. God has not forgotten his faithful servants till now and you say it's a lie. Ok na

TenQ:

JESUS said that ONLY God has the power to kill or destroy the Soul. There is no human being that can kill or destroy the Soul!


Question:
If the Soul can be killed, then it would be ALIVE isn't it?


I wonder who should grow in understanding?

Then why ask mumu question about humans KILLING the soul. Note that soul is killed, not tormented. Bad Bible student

death is not the end it's just a transition to a higher plane of life and consciousness

TenQ:


Mat 10:28:
"And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell."

Luk 12:4-5:
"And I say to you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do. But I will forewarn you whom you shall fear: Fear him, which after he has killed has power to cast into hell; yes, I say to you, Fear him."

But humans can kill a PERSON can't they?

Meaning that your definition is wrong in the context of Matt10:28 and Lk12:4-5


You have just said ONE meaning of the word Soul.
The definition of Soul can vary according to the context as
a. A living Physical Being
b. A Person or a person's total Self
c. The Emotion
d. Immaterial Essence of a Being


Can a human being kill the life, living being or creature ?

If they can, then you are extremely wrong in the context of Matt10:28 and Lk12:4-5



This is now a confused mix-up because according to your definition of SOUL, a human being can kill it!

This is contrary to the explicit words of Christ in Matt10:28

What then is the definition of Soul that a human being CANNOT kill?

... What does humans kill. Body or soul. Keep fooling yourself. Did Jesus say that humans can kill the soul beyond resurrection. Can you tell us why the Bible mentions dead souls and describes animals as souls

Aemmyjah:
. Even Jesus went to he'll according to the scriptures. Remain blind and bury your head in the sand. If you want to go to he'll, fare well. God has not forgotten his faithful servants till now and you say it's a lie. Ok na

That is why the only thing that betray your wrong doctrines is Questions. When you answer my questions even to yourself, you'd become free

Exactly!
1. Was Jesus buried OR He descended into Hell?
Meaning that in context, Hell is NOT the grave!

2. When Jesus descended into Hell, did He set the Captives free?

3. When did Jesus preach to the spirits in prison

1Pet 3:18-20:
"For Christ also has once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: By which also he went and preached to the spirits in prison; Which sometime were disobedient, when once the long-suffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water."


Did God send the offending angels into the grave according to 2Pt 2:4?
2Pet 2:4:
"For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved to judgment;"

Aemmyjah:
Then why ask mumu question about humans KILLING the soul. Note that soul is killed, not tormented. Bad Bible student

JW believe that humans can kill the soul (by their definition of Soul)

Are you a JW?

Aemmyjah:
... What does humans kill. Body or soul. Keep fooling yourself. Did Jesus say that humans can kill the soul beyond resurrection. Can you tell us why the Bible mentions dead souls and describes animals as souls

So, what is the Soul?

At least Jesus made a distinction: that is why you cannot answer the question truthfully. It hangs your throat!

Aemmyjah:
Then why ask mumu question about humans KILLING the soul. Note that soul is killed, not tormented. Bad Bible student

According to Jesus only Jehovah can destroy the body and the soul! Matthew 10:28

Of course soul is the person so any creature known by name being called upon by those who know such a creature is a SOUL. If you have a pet it's a SOUL because anyone can't just kill your pet and say "i will replace it" since the replacement won't be the exact character.

So when Jesus said humans can destroy the body but can't destroy the SOUL he's referring to the destruction of the person's physic that people see to identify the person but if that person is deaf, dumb, blind, cripple burnt no human can recognize such a person easily without the deformities whereas God has stored the person's name in His memory book if he is righteous {Malachi 3:16; Revelations 20:15} when it's time for resurrection the person that humans recognized with the infirmities will be made whole again without a single blemish.
WHY because it's what humans see they can destroy nobody can tamper with God's memory book in which the person's name is written!

TenQ:


That is why the only thing that betray your wrong doctrines is Questions. When you answer my questions even to yourself, you'd become free

Exactly!
1. Was Jesus buried OR He descended into Hell?
Meaning that in context, Hell is NOT the grave!

2. When Jesus descended into Hell, did He set the Captives free?

3. When did Jesus preach to the spirits in prison

1Pet 3:18-20:
"For Christ also has once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: By which also he went and preached to the spirits in prison; Which sometime were disobedient, when once the long-suffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water."


Did God send the offending angels into the grave according to 2Pt 2:4?
2Pet 2:4:
"For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved to judgment;"

did Jesus go to talk to those angels WHEN he was dead or after he was resurrected, yu de reason backwards. Job wished to go to he'll so his suffering would end. Jacob too wished to do that after what happened to his son. Jonah oprayed to God from hell. . I never said that demons are in he'll. U have zero understanding of the scriptures and can never understand anything. See the mumu question he is asking me. Whether Jesus was buried or he descended into hell. Abi u wan tell us say Jesus was never buried again. Jesus went to HELL according to the scripture res but was not left there cis he was resurrected. Your second question is foolish and deserves no answer. I am ok that you understood that the spirits you mentioned were angels and not humans in a prison like place. Now, you will fool yourself to tell us angels are in he'll. It is interesting that you mentioned that 8 souls were SAVED from water. What about the other souls. Did they die

TenQ:

So, what is the Soul?

At least Jesus made a distinction: that is why you cannot answer the question truthfully. It hangs your throat!

the soul is the life of the individual according to the context. According to you, you said it is emotional whatever. I say again, the soul can DIE A

Aemmyjah:
the soul is the life of the individual according to the context. According to you, you said it is emotional whatever. I say again, the soul can DIE A

If the soul is the life of the individual, Then a human being can kill the soul according to you.

I didn't say the soul is "emotional whatever" quote me properly

If humans can kill the soul, this is contrary to what Jesus said.

Aemmyjah:
did Jesus go to talk to those angels WHEN he was dead or after he was resurrected, yu de reason backwards. Job wished to go to he'll so his suffering would end. Jacob too wished to do that after what happened to his son. Jonah oprayed to God from hell. . I never said that demons are in he'll. U have zero understanding of the scriptures and can never understand anything. See the mumu question he is asking me. Whether Jesus was buried or he descended into hell. Abi u wan tell us say Jesus was never buried again. Jesus went to HELL according to the scripture res but was not left there cis he was resurrected. Your second question is foolish and deserves no answer. I am ok that you understood that the spirits you mentioned were angels and not humans in a prison like place. Now, you will fool yourself to tell us angels are in he'll. It is interesting that you mentioned that 8 souls were SAVED from water. What about the other souls. Did they die

Why the tantrum?

Just answer the Questions one by one!


1. Was Jesus buried OR He descended into Hell?
Meaning that in context, Hell is NOT the grave!

2. When Jesus descended into Hell, did He set the Captives free?

3. When did Jesus preach to the spirits in prison

1Pet 3:18-20:
"For Christ also has once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: By which also he went and preached to the spirits in prison; Which sometime were disobedient, when once the long-suffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water."


Did God send the offending angels into the grave according to 2Pt 2:4?
2Pet 2:4:
"For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved to judgment;"


You are angry because you couldn't answer the questions as they betray your faulty doctrine.