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Re: Is Death The End Of The Road? by Father0fjesus: 9:25pm On May 01, 2023
TenQ:

It doesn't matter!
I didn't say anything untrue about you Atheists, so don't gloss over them.

1. Do you think this makes sense that
Some of you want especially us Christians to reject our God and choose HOPELESSNESS like you?

2. What do YOU as atheists have in exchange for the Hope Christians have in their Creator?


3. Are you an Atheist or Agnostic?
my mean issue is that Christianity is shit.

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Re: Is Death The End Of The Road? by TenQ: 10:01pm On May 01, 2023
Father0fjesus:
my mean issue is that Christianity is shit.
No problemo!
It's not about being paranoid about Christianity. Leave Christianity and Christians alone for now

1. Do you think this makes sense that
Some of you want especially us Christians to reject our God and choose HOPELESSNESS like you?

2. What do YOU as atheists have in exchange for the Hope Christians have in their Creator?


3. Are you an Atheist or Agnostic?
Re: Is Death The End Of The Road? by Father0fjesus: 6:54am On May 02, 2023
TenQ:

No problemo!
It's not about being paranoid about Christianity. Leave Christianity and Christians alone for now

1. Do you think this makes sense that
Some of you want especially us Christians to reject our God and choose HOPELESSNESS like you?

2. What do YOU as atheists have in exchange for the Hope Christians have in their Creator?


3. Are you an Atheist or Agnostic?
If you like reject God or not, Christianity is shit

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Re: Is Death The End Of The Road? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:40am On May 02, 2023
Father0fjesus:

If you like reject God or not, Christianity is shit
You know nothing about Christianity! smiley
Re: Is Death The End Of The Road? by TenQ: 7:53am On May 02, 2023
Father0fjesus:
If you like reject God or not, Christianity is shit
It doesn't matter! It's just your opinion.

I am challenging you on the fundamentals:

1. Do you think this makes sense that
Some of you want especially us Christians to reject our God and choose HOPELESSNESS like you?

2. What do YOU as atheists have in exchange for the Hope Christians have in their Creator?


3. Are you an Atheist or Agnostic?




Why are you afraid to face your truth?
Re: Is Death The End Of The Road? by Father0fjesus: 8:10am On May 02, 2023
TenQ:

It doesn't matter! It's just your opinion.

I am challenging you on the fundamentals:

1. Do you think this makes sense that
Some of you want especially us Christians to reject our God and choose HOPELESSNESS like you?

2. What do YOU as atheists have in exchange for the Hope Christians have in their Creator?


3. Are you an Atheist or Agnostic?




Why are you afraid to face your truth?
Christianity still remains shit

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Re: Is Death The End Of The Road? by TenQ: 8:20am On May 02, 2023
Father0fjesus:
Christianity still remains shit
You are sounding like a broken record!

If you repeat the phrase "I am not a man" 100000 times a day, it doesn't change your biology.

1. Do you think this makes sense that
Some of you want especially us Christians to reject our God and choose HOPELESSNESS like you?

2. What do YOU as atheists have in exchange for the Hope Christians have in their Creator?


3. Are you an Atheist or Agnostic?
Re: Is Death The End Of The Road? by Father0fjesus: 7:57pm On May 02, 2023
TenQ:

You are sounding like a broken record!

If you repeat the phrase "I am not a man" 100000 times a day, it doesn't change your biology.

1. Do you think this makes sense that
Some of you want especially us Christians to reject our God and choose HOPELESSNESS like you?

2. What do YOU as atheists have in exchange for the Hope Christians have in their Creator?


3. Are you an Atheist or Agnostic?
christianity still shit
Re: Is Death The End Of The Road? by TenQ: 10:16pm On May 02, 2023
Father0fjesus:
christianity still shit
Time will surely tell!
Wait for it
Re: Is Death The End Of The Road? by Ken4Christ: 10:38pm On May 02, 2023
Father0fjesus:
If you like reject God or not, Christianity is shit

Christianity is a higher life. It's a far superior life to the ordinary human life.

We are in a higher class. We are partakers of God's divine nature.

We are the new supermen on earth.
Re: Is Death The End Of The Road? by Ken4Christ: 10:41pm On May 02, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun. Ecclesiastes 9:5-6

Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave (hell), whither thou goest. Ecclesiastes 9:10

You love backing up your opinions with old testament verses. Why not quote what Jesus taught us about hell?
Re: Is Death The End Of The Road? by Father0fjesus: 5:50am On May 03, 2023
Ken4Christ:


Christianity is a higher life. It's a far superior life to the ordinary human life.

We are in a higher class. We are partakers of God's divine nature.

We are the new supermen on earth.
Christianity is a higher life in weed for morons without capacity to use their brain.

Where conmen confuse simps that a god that created the universe with his words needs their money to build his house.

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Re: Is Death The End Of The Road? by Father0fjesus: 5:50am On May 03, 2023
TenQ:

Time will surely tell!
Wait for it
wait for nonsense. Brainwashed fellows with no capacity to think

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Re: Is Death The End Of The Road? by TenQ: 5:53am On May 03, 2023
Father0fjesus:
wait for nonsense. Brainwashed fellows with no capacity to think
I repeatedly gave you questions which showed if you could think, but what did you do?
You showed that you can only repeat without independent thoughts!
Re: Is Death The End Of The Road? by Father0fjesus: 5:55am On May 03, 2023
TenQ:

I repeatedly gave you questions which showed if you could think, but what did you do?
You showed that you can only repeat without independent thoughts!
I'm not here to answer any questions from a simp who thinks a god who build the whole universe with his words exist.
Who are you to ask questions?
You don't have a Brain, you questions are probably silly.

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Re: Is Death The End Of The Road? by TenQ: 6:19am On May 03, 2023
Father0fjesus:
I'm not here to answer any questions from a simp who thinks a god who build the whole universe with his words exist.
Who are you to ask questions?
You don't have a Brain, you questions are probably silly.
Take your ignorance elsewhere
Re: Is Death The End Of The Road? by Father0fjesus: 6:26am On May 03, 2023
TenQ:

Take your ignorance elsewhere
ok sheep 🤣
Re: Is Death The End Of The Road? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:01am On May 03, 2023
Ken4Christ:

You love backing up your opinions with old testament verses. Why not quote what Jesus taught us about hell?

Jesus never came to contradict inspired word of God:

“Do not think I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I came, not to destroy, but to fulfill" Matthew 5:17

Jesus taught in parables:
"That is why I speak to them by the use of illustrations; for looking, they look in vain, and hearing, they hear in vain, nor do they get the sense of it" Matthew 13:13

So if you're not a diligent student of God's word you will continue to misconstrue Jesus' words! Daniel 12:10

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Re: Is Death The End Of The Road? by Ken4Christ: 10:28am On May 03, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Jesus never came to contradict inspired word of God:

“Do not think I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I came, not to destroy, but to fulfill" Matthew 5:17

Jesus taught in parables:
"That is why I speak to them by the use of illustrations; for looking, they look in vain, and hearing, they hear in vain, nor do they get the sense of it" Matthew 13:13

So if you're not a diligent student of God's word you will continue to misconstrue Jesus' words! Daniel 12:10

OK. Quote at least five verses of scriptures Jesus made reference to hell either as Hades, Gehenna or any other word.
Re: Is Death The End Of The Road? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:16pm On May 03, 2023
Ken4Christ:

OK. Quote at least five verses of scriptures Jesus made reference to hell either as Hades, Gehenna or any other word.

The writers of those gospel penned down the message in Greek not English so if you want to find out the truth just make a research on the words translated as Hell! smiley

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Re: Is Death The End Of The Road? by sonmvayina(m): 10:37am On May 04, 2023
TenQ:

No problemo!
It's not about being paranoid about Christianity. Leave Christianity and Christians alone for now

1. Do you think this makes sense that
Some of you want especially us Christians to reject our God and choose HOPELESSNESS like you?

2. What do YOU as atheists have in exchange for the Hope Christians have in their Creator?


3. Are you an Atheist or Agnostic?

Do Christians worship God or a man that was nailed to a cross?
Re: Is Death The End Of The Road? by TenQ: 11:41am On May 04, 2023
sonmvayina:


Do Christians worship God or a man that was nailed to a cross?
We worship the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit as ONE single GOD!
Re: Is Death The End Of The Road? by sonmvayina(m): 3:58pm On May 04, 2023
TenQ:

We worship the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit as ONE single GOD!

Who are they?

I don't understand this concept of God...

Care to explain. Just for me.....please.

You Christian are a funny bunch ..
Re: Is Death The End Of The Road? by TenQ: 5:14pm On May 04, 2023
sonmvayina:


Who are they?

I don't understand this concept of God...

Care to explain. Just for me.....please.

You Christian are a funny bunch ..
I don't know your "they"!
Re: Is Death The End Of The Road? by sonmvayina(m): 10:09am On May 05, 2023
TenQ:

I don't know your "they"!

We worship the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit as ONE single GOD!
Re: Is Death The End Of The Road? by TenQ: 10:45am On May 05, 2023
sonmvayina:


We worship the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit as ONE single GOD!
True!

But is your "they" a description of "ONE single GOD"!?
Re: Is Death The End Of The Road? by Michael547(m): 12:49pm On May 05, 2023
TenQ:

If the soul is the life of the individual, Then a human being can kill the soul according to you.

I didn't say the soul is "emotional whatever" quote me properly

If humans can kill the soul, this is contrary to what Jesus said.
Ok....I have been following your line of thought and it has been interesting. Do you believe that the soul is immortal?
Re: Is Death The End Of The Road? by TenQ: 1:09pm On May 05, 2023
Michael547:

Ok....I have been following your line of thought and it has been interesting. Do you believe that the soul is immortal?
Immortality is a relative term and i hardly use it because it can be misinterpreted to mean other things.

1. God is immortal:
Meaning that God does not have a beginning and will never cease to exist.
2. Angels are immortal:
Meaning that Angels have a beginning and will never cease to exist!
3. Humans are immortal:
Meaning that humans have a beginning but will never cease to exist!
4. Satan, Demons , Unclean spirits are immortal:
Meaning that Satan, Demons and Unclean spirits have a beginning and will never cease to exist!

Only God the Creator of Existence has the Power to make His own Creations Cease to Exist: such that a Creation of God will exist forever UNLESS God Himself TERMINATE its EXISTENCE!
This is the proper definition of immortality with respect to ALL His Creations that He has bestowed His Spirit eg. Angels, Humans etc.

Finally,
When a Human being dies Physically, His Soul? Spirit is Disconnected from His Body
This is the worst a human can do to him.
God can after this Physical death Grab the man Body, Soul and Spirit and destroy in Hell!

Questions:
Are the 24 Elders in the Book of Revelation immortal?
Are the 4 Beasts in the Book of Revelation Immortal?
Are those whose name are written in the lambs Book of Life immortal?

If they are immortal, Does God have the power to make them Cease to EXIST (if He chooses)?


In the full and Correct sense of Definition, ONLY God is fully IMMORTAL!
Re: Is Death The End Of The Road? by Michael547(m): 1:26pm On May 05, 2023
TenQ:

Immortality is a relative term and i hardly use it because it can be misinterpreted to mean other things.

1. God is immortal:
Meaning that God does not have a beginning and will never cease to exist.
2. Angels are immortal:
Meaning that Angels have a beginning and will never cease to exist!
3. Humans are immortal:
Meaning that humans have a beginning but will never cease to exist!
4. Satan, Demons , Unclean spirits are immortal:
Meaning that Satan, Demons and Unclean spirits have a beginning and will never cease to exist!

Only God the Creator of Existence has the Power to make His own Creations Cease to Exist: such that a Creation of God will exist forever UNLESS God Himself TERMINATE its EXISTENCE!
This is the proper definition of immortality with respect to ALL His Creations that He has bestowed His Spirit eg. Angels, Humans etc.

Finally,
When a Human being dies Physically, His Soul? Spirit is Disconnected from His Body
This is the worst a human can do to him.
God can after this Physical death Grab the man Body, Soul and Spirit and destroy in Hell!

Questions:
Are the 24 Elders in the Book of Revelation immortal?
Are the 4 Beasts in the Book of Revelation Immortal?
Are those whose name are written in the lambs Book of Life immortal?

If they are immortal, Does God have the power to make them Cease to EXIST (if He chooses)?


In the full and Correct sense of Definition, ONLY God is fully IMMORTAL!
Immortality simply means a person that is not subject to death or indestructible......Does the Bible teach that God gives half Immortality?
I would need scriptures that support that humans angels devils and the demons have Immortality.
Re: Is Death The End Of The Road? by TenQ: 1:45pm On May 05, 2023
Michael547:

Ok....so what exactly is the soul, can the soul be killed by another person?
A human being is a Trinity of a Body , a Soul and a Spirit. This three represe4nts a person in three realms

1. Body:
This is your PHYSICAL IDENTITY!
This is the Physical Representation of a man on earth. By his Body, He interacts with the Physical Dimensions.
Everyone on earth including you dog know your Body as YOU and it is the truth.
At death, people will say YOU are dead: This is you
2. The Spirit:
This is your SPIRITUAL IDENTITY!
This is the Spiritual Representation of a man in the spiritual realm. By a man's Spirit, He interacts with the Spiritual Dimensions.
Angels, Demons and God Himself deal with your Spirit as YOU. Even angels interact with themselves aas Spirits!
3. The Soul:
This is your INTERNAL or PERSONAL IDENTITY!
This is how YOU Identify your Consciousness! It is the Center of our WILL, our INTELLECT and our EMOTIONS.
Even when your Body is mangled beyond recognition, you will still IDENTIFY yourself as "ME", "I", "MYSELF".


Summary:
A Human being has three Identities
1. His Physical Identity
2. His Spiritual Identity
3. His Internal/Personal/Individual Identity.

Each one of this IDENTITIES fully represent him.

At Physical Death, we lose our Physical Identity (till the day of resurrection) BUT our Personal and Spiritual Identity remain Intact.

At this point we are like Angels who have DUAL Identities (Internal and Spiritual Identities) aka Soul and Spirit!

IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR A HUMAN BEING TO KILL THE SOUL OF ANOTHER PERSON: Only God Can do that!
Re: Is Death The End Of The Road? by Michael547(m): 1:58pm On May 05, 2023
TenQ:

A human being is a Trinity of a Body , a Soul and a Spirit. This three represe4nts a person in three realms

1. Body:
This is your PHYSICAL IDENTITY!
This is the Physical Representation of a man on earth. By his Body, He interacts with the Physical Dimensions.
Everyone on earth including you dog know your Body as YOU and it is the truth.
At death, people will say YOU are dead: This is you
2. The Spirit:
This is your SPIRITUAL IDENTITY!
This is the Spiritual Representation of a man in the spiritual realm. By a man's Spirit, He interacts with the Spiritual Dimensions.
Angels, Demons and God Himself deal with your Spirit as YOU. Even angels interact with themselves aas Spirits!
3. The Soul:
This is your INTERNAL or PERSONAL IDENTITY!
This is how YOU Identify your Consciousness! It is the Center of our WILL, our INTELLECT and our EMOTIONS.
Even when your Body is mangled beyond recognition, you will still IDENTIFY yourself as "ME", "I", "MYSELF".


Summary:
A Human being has three Identities
1. His Physical Identity
2. His Spiritual Identity
3. His Internal/Personal/Individual Identity.

Each one of this IDENTITIES fully represent him.

At Physical Death, we lose our Physical Identity (till the day of resurrection) BUT our Personal and Spiritual Identity remain Intact.

At this point we are like Angels who have DUAL Identities (Internal and Spiritual Identities) aka Soul and Spirit!

IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR A HUMAN BEING TO KILL THE SOUL OF ANOTHER PERSON: Only God Can do that!
Ok....if Immortality simply means a person that is not subject to death or indestructible......Does the Bible teach that God gives half Immortality?
I would need scriptures that support that humans angels devils and the demons have Immortality.
Re: Is Death The End Of The Road? by TenQ: 2:11pm On May 05, 2023
Michael547:

Ok....[s]if Immortality simply means a person that is not subject to death or indestructible[/s]......Does the Bible teach that God gives half Immortality?
I would need scriptures that support that humans angels devils and the demons have Immortality.
Was this what I said is Immortality?
Or you are Creating a Strawman for argument purposes?
I think you should state EXACTLY what I said about IMMORTALITY before you start asking Question on the basis of my definition



You asked me about IMMORTALITY and I have explained it: therefore Use EXACTLY my definition to ask your question and NOT what you assumed I mean.

I told you that:
1. I don't use the word immortality, because it can mean different things to different people
2. I explained what people define as immortality by using the immortality of God, Angels, Demons and humans as examples
3. I explained that TRUE immortality ONLY belongs to God because He is the OnLY Being Without a Beginning and will have NO End.
4. I explained to you that ONLY God can Terminate the EXISTENCE of Any of His Creatures
5., I gave you some questions to answer in perspective as per

Questions:
Are the 24 Elders in the Book of Revelation immortal?
Are the 4 Beasts in the Book of Revelation Immortal?
Are those whose name are written in the lambs Book of Life immortal?
If they are immortal, Does God have the power to make them Cease to EXIST (if He chooses)?



In the full and Correct sense of Definition, ONLY God is fully IMMORTAL!


So, without YOU putting YOUR Words into my MOUTH you can answer your own question from what I have said.

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