TenQ:

Was this what I said is Immortality?
Or you are Creating a Strawman for argument purposes?
I think you should state EXACTLY what I said about IMMORTALITY before you start asking Question on the basis of my definition



You asked me about IMMORTALITY and I have explained it: therefore Use EXACTLY my definition to ask your question and NOT what you assumed I mean.

I told you that:
1. I don't use the word immortality, because it can mean different things to different people
2. I explained what people define as immortality by using the immortality of God, Angels, Demons and humans as examples
3. I explained that TRUE immortality ONLY belongs to God because He is the OnLY Being Without a Beginning and will have NO End.
4. I explained to you that ONLY God can Terminate the EXISTENCE of Any of His Creatures
5., I gave you some questions to answer in perspective as per




So, without YOU putting YOUR Words into my MOUTH you can answer your own question from what I have said.

Does the Bible give a difference between true Immortality and half Immortality according to your third point? If there is please cite an example where one with Immortality can be destroyed.

Michael547:

Does the Bible give a difference between true Immortality and half Immortality according to your third point? If there is please cite an example where one with
Immortality can be destroyed.

Please, help me because I don't use the word immortality!

To help me understand, you can answer the question
If anyone's name is written in the book of life AND in Paradise, would he be mortal or immortal?



1. What is true Immortality?
2a. What is immortality that can be destroyed.?
b. Is this the same as false Immortality?

You are the preacher here....when the bible talks about immortality, can the person sill be destroyed? Yes or no?

TenQ:

Please, help me because I don't use the word immortality!

To help me understand, you can answer the question
If anyone's name is written in the book of life AND in Paradise, would he be mortal or immortal?



1. What is true Immortality?
2a. What is immortality that can be destroyed.?
b. Is this the same as false Immortality?

You are in the best position to answer those questions because you claim that there are levels to immortality. So where does the bible imply that one who is immortal is still subject to destruction?

Michael547:

You are in the best position to answer those questions because you claim that there are levels to immortality. So where does the bible imply that one who is immortal is still subject to destruction?

I NEVER once mentioned layers of immortality perhaps you can quote me!

Then you will notice a difference between us. I've answered your question but you NEVER attempted to answer mine. Is this hypocrisy?

Again:

To help me understand, you can answer the question
If anyone's name is written in the book of life AND in Paradise, would he be mortal or immortal?



Why are you afraid of answering questions. You've asked several questions and I have answered till the point I asked my own.

TenQ:

I NEVER once mentioned layers of immortality perhaps you can quote me!

Then you will notice a difference between us. I've answered your question but you NEVER attempted to answer mine. Is this hypocrisy?

Again:

To help me understand, you can answer the question
If anyone's name is written in the book of life AND in Paradise, would he be mortal or immortal?

But you insinuated with a question that those given immortality in the book of revelation are still subject to destruction by God? So how is that immortality?

Michael547:

But you insinuated with a question that those given immortality in the book of revelation are still subject to destruction by God? So how is that immortality?

No sir!
I asked you questions based on the book of Revelation to which you've not answered till now.

I am giving you just a single question to resolve if you are true to yourself or you are being hypocritical.


If anyone's name is written in the book of life AND in Paradise, would he be mortal or immortal?

TenQ:

No sir!
I asked you questions based on the book of Revelation to which you've not answered till now.

I am giving you just a single question to resolve if you are true to yourself or you are being hypocritical.


If anyone's name is written in the book of life AND in Paradise, would he be mortal or immortal?

I thought you were the teacher......you said humans and angels and the devil are all immortal and you've not shown me one verse from the bible.

Michael547:

I thought you were the teacher......you said humans and angels and the devil are all immortal and you've not shown me one verse from the bible.

I am concluding that you are a FRAUDULENT person not worth being a Disciple of Christ.

Even though I told you that I DON'T UDE the WORD Immortality, you still somehow attributed the definition to ME.


You asked:

Michael547:

Ok....I have been following your line of thought and it has been interesting. Do you believe that the soul is immortal?

I responded with:

TenQ:

Immortality is a relative term and I hardly use it because it can be misinterpreted to mean other things.

1. God is immortal:
Meaning that God does not have a beginning and will never cease to exist.
2. Angels are immortal:
Meaning that Angels have a beginning and will never cease to exist!
3. Humans are immortal:
Meaning that humans have a beginning but will never cease to exist!
4. Satan, Demons , Unclean spirits are immortal:
Meaning that Satan, Demons and Unclean spirits have a beginning and will never cease to exist!

Only God the Creator of Existence has the Power to make His own Creations Cease to Exist: such that a Creation of God will exist forever UNLESS God Himself TERMINATE its EXISTENCE!
This is the proper definition of immortality with respect to ALL His Creations that He has bestowed His Spirit eg. Angels, Humans etc.

Finally,
When a Human being dies Physically, His Soul? Spirit is Disconnected from His Body
This is the worst a human can do to him.
God can after this Physical death Grab the man Body, Soul and Spirit and destroy in Hell!

Questions:
Are the 24 Elders in the Book of Revelation immortal?
Are the 4 Beasts in the Book of Revelation Immortal?
Are those whose name are written in the lambs Book of Life immortal?
If they are immortal, Does God have the power to make them Cease to EXIST (if He chooses)?


In the full and Correct sense of Definition, ONLY God is fully IMMORTAL!

1. These are what is called IMMORTALITY by people
2. I then told you that

Only God the Creator of Existence has the Power to make His own Creations Cease to Exist: such that a Creation of God will exist forever UNLESS God Himself TERMINATE its EXISTENCE!
This is the proper definition of immortality with respect to ALL His Creations that He has bestowed His Spirit eg. Angels, Humans etc.


So, Quote me Correctly bro and stop being a FRAUD!

Now answer my Question:

If anyone's name is written in the book of life AND in Paradise, would he be mortal or immortal?

TenQ:


I am concluding that you are a FRAUDULENT person not worth being a Disciple of Christ.

Even though I told you that I DON'T UDE the WORD Immortality, you still somehow attributed the definition to ME.


You asked:

I responded with:



1. These are what is called IMMORTALITY by people
2. I then told you that

Only God the Creator of Existence has the Power to make His own Creations Cease to Exist: such that a Creation of God will exist forever UNLESS God Himself TERMINATE its EXISTENCE!
This is the proper definition of immortality with respect to ALL His Creations that He has bestowed His Spirit eg. Angels, Humans etc.


So, Quote me Correctly bro and stop being a FRAUD!

Now answer my Question:

If anyone's name is written in the book of life AND in Paradise, would he be mortal or immortal?

So how can angels and humans be immortal if they can still be destroyed?

Michael547:

So how can angels and humans be immortal if they can still be destroyed?

Did I tell you that as my view?


Please answer my question:
If anyone's name is written in the book of life AND in Paradise, would he be mortal or immortal?

TenQ:

Did I tell you that as my view?


Please answer my question:
If anyone's name is written in the book of life AND in Paradise, would he be mortal or immortal?

Since you have said humans and angels and the devil are all immortals, can they be destroyed? Yes or no

Michael547:

Since you have said humans and angels and the devil are all immortals, can they be destroyed? Yes or no

You are a LIAR and a FRAUD!

Stop mentioning me if you CANNOT Quote me Correctly NOR honestly answer my Questions!

TenQ:

Immortality is a relative term and i hardly use it because it can be misinterpreted to mean other things.

1. God is immortal:
Meaning that God does not have a beginning and will never cease to exist.
2[b]. Angels are immortal:
Meaning that Angels have a beginning and will never cease to exist!
3. Humans are immortal:
Meaning that humans have a beginning but will never cease to exist!
4. Satan, Demons , Unclean spirits are immortal:
Meaning that Satan, Demons and Unclean spirits have a beginning and will never cease to exist![/b]

Only God the Creator of Existence has the Power to make His own Creations Cease to Exist: such that a Creation of God will exist forever UNLESS God Himself TERMINATE its EXISTENCE!
This is the proper definition of immortality with respect to ALL His Creations that He has bestowed His Spirit eg. Angels, Humans etc.



In the full and Correct sense of Definition, ONLY God is fully IMMORTAL!

Please who said this?

Michael547:
Please who said this?

If you were just a little honest, you would have read this

TenQ:

Immortality is a relative term and i hardly use it because it can be misinterpreted to mean other things.

.....
In the full and Correct sense of Definition, ONLY God is fully IMMORTAL!

You will see ONLY what your Fraud will allow you to see!


Please answer my question:
If anyone's name is written in the book of life AND in Paradise, would he be mortal or immortal?

TenQ:

If you were just a little honest, you would have read this



You will see ONLY what your Fraud will allow you to see!


Please answer my question:
If anyone's name is written in the book of life AND in Paradise, would he be mortal or immortal?

So what about those who God gives immortality....are they fully IMMORTAL or half IMMORTAL? That is my question since

Except you are being dishonest, I didn't mention anything like full or half Immortality. These are your Inventions.

And simply answering my question will answer your question

Michael547:

So what about those who God gives immortality....are they fully IMMORTAL or half IMMORTAL? That is my question since

Let me know what YOU mean by Immortality by Honestly answering my Question!

It is fraudulent to AVOID answering Questions simply because it seems you have some inadequacies to hide.

Please answer my question:
If anyone's name is written in the book of life AND in Paradise, would he be mortal or immortal?

Is the question difficult for you to answer?

TenQ:
Except you are being dishonest, I didn't mention anything like full or half Immortality. These are your Inventions.

And simply answering my question will answer your question

Let me know what YOU mean by Immortality by Honestly answering my Question!

It is fraudulent to AVOID answering Questions simply because it seems you have some inadequacies to hide.

Please answer my question:
If anyone's name is written in the book of life AND in Paradise, would he be mortal or immortal?

Is the question difficult for you to answer?

So what do you mean that God is fully IMMORTAL? How do we refer to those he gives immortality?

Michael547:

So what do you mean that God is fully IMMORTAL? How do we refer to those he gives immortality?

Your Question has been answered

TenQ:

Immortality is a relative term and i hardly use it because it can be misinterpreted to mean other things.

1. God is immortal:
Meaning that God does not have a beginning and will never cease to exist.
......

In the full and Correct sense of Definition, ONLY God is fully IMMORTAL!

Apart from God , do you know any Being that does not have a beginning nor will cease to exist?

You know what!
When Jesus asked the Pharisees a single Question, they couldn't respond because they know that their response will make them look STUPID!


Answer my question:
If anyone's name is written in the book of life AND in Paradise, would he be mortal or immortal?


Does this Question betray your hypocrisy?

TenQ:

Your Question has been answered



Apart from God , do you know any Being that does not have a beginning nor will cease to exist?

You know what!
When Jesus asked the Pharisees a single Question, they couldn't respond because they know that their response will make them look STUPID!


Answer my question:
If anyone's name is written in the book of life AND in Paradise, would he be mortal or immortal?


Does this Question betray your hypocrisy?

Ok.....what about those God gives immortality, are they fully immortal? How can we describe them? Can they be destroyed after been immortal?

Michael547:

Ok.....what about those God gives immortality, are they fully immortal? How can we describe them? Can they be destroyed after been immortal?

It is obvious my question betray your hypocrisy. Did I tell you that God gave anyone immortality?

Answer my question:
If anyone's name is written in the book of life AND in Paradise, would he be mortal or immortal?

TenQ:

It is obvious my question betray your hypocrisy. Did I tell you that God gave anyone immortality?

Answer my question:
If anyone's name is written in the book of life AND in Paradise, would he be mortal or immortal?

So no one apart from God is immortal?

Michael547:

So no one apart from God is immortal?

Answer my question:
If anyone's name is written in the book of life AND in Paradise, would he be mortal or immortal?


Can you see your hypocrisy!?
You can't answer!


You perfectly remind me of Christ's interaction with people exactly like you.


Mat 21:25-27:
"The baptism of John, from where was it? from heaven, or of men? And they reasoned with themselves, saying, If we shall say, From heaven; he will say to us, Why did you not then believe him? But if we shall say, Of men; we fear the people; for all hold John as a prophet. And they answered Jesus, and said, We cannot tell. And he said to them, Neither tell I you by what authority I do these things."

Too bad!

TenQ:


Answer my question:
If anyone's name is written in the book of life AND in Paradise, would he be mortal or immortal?


Can you see your hypocrisy!?
You can't answer!


You perfectly remind me of Christ's interaction with people exactly like you.


Mat 21:25-27:
"The baptism of John, from where was it? from heaven, or of men? And they reasoned with themselves, saying, If we shall say, From heaven; he will say to us, Why did you not then believe him? But if we shall say, Of men; we fear the people; for all hold John as a prophet. And they answered Jesus, and said, We cannot tell. And he said to them, Neither tell I you by what authority I do these things."

Too bad!

Ok....I don't know the answer....why not tell me

Michael547:

Ok....I don't know the answer....why not tell me

Neither will I tell you Hypocrite!


You are so empty: tell them in your organisation to update your memory verses as they are inadequate to respond to simple questions!

Good night!

TenQ:

True!

But is your "they" a description of "ONE single GOD"!?

That sound like 3 to me...

How is it 1?

You see how confusing it is..

sonmvayina:


That sound like 3 to me...

How is it 1?

You see how confusing it is..

To the blind, such is confusing because they expect a God that is so simple to cage in their box.

Aisha Buhari found it confusing too that Her husband Mohamadu Buhari is also the President of Nigeria and is also the Commander in chief of the Nigerian Armed forces. It's so confusing can't you see!?