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Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by Lukuluku69(m): 2:26pm On Jun 07, 2023
advocatejare:

Stop blabbing, answer the simple question I asked you or bury your head in shame

The Fits are coming on slowly but surely cheesy
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by advocatejare(m): 3:11pm On Jun 07, 2023
Lukuluku69:


The Fits are coming on slowly but surely cheesy
Oh you remember how your false prophet Muhammad used to fit and snort like a camel and moved his lips repeatedly bi onigiri?


"...Would that I see revelation coming to the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ). He (Hadrat 'Umar) said: Would it please you to see the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) receiving the revelations 'Umar lifted a corner of the cloth and I looked at him and he was emitting a sound of snorting . He (the narrator) said: I thought it was the sound of a camel..."
-Sahih Muslim Book 7, Hadith 2654

Jibreel the demon really dealt with Muhammad, o han Muhamo leemo!

Narrated By Said bin Jubair
Ibn 'Abbas in the explanation of the Statement of Allah. 'Move not your tongue concerning (the Qur'an) to make haste therewith." (75.16) Said "Allah's Apostle used to bear the revelation with great trouble and used to move his lips (quickly) with the Inspiration." Ibn 'Abbas moved his lips saying, "I am moving my lips in front of you as Allah's Apostle used to move his."
-Sahih Bukhari 1:1:4
IL- LegalfWolf i hope you, AntiChristian and Lukuluku69 are aware that muhamo snorted like a camel and moved his lips bi onigiri?
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by sonmvayina(m): 9:26pm On Jun 07, 2023
advocatejare:

You have a lot to learn then.

Have you heard of Jewish historian Josephus and Roman historian Tacitus. before?

Go and read about them and what they wrote about Jesus Christ

We have thrashed this before....

They are later addition to the original works...
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by advocatejare(m): 9:43pm On Jun 07, 2023
sonmvayina:


We have thrashed this before....
You and who?


They are later addition to the original works...
Can you show proof for this?
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by MightySparrow: 12:54am On Jun 08, 2023
AntiChristian:
We have only one Islam! Islam and Muhammad came from Saudi Arabia and is established on the texts! I am for the texts of Islam and owe no allegiance to any country!

Christianity no longer exist pass 10% at its source!
Catholic Christians vs Chosen Christians vs Jehovah Witness vs Celestial Church Christians vs Cherubim & Seraphim Christians vs Celestial Church Christians vs Anglican Christians vs Seven Days Adventist Church Christians vs....................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
Liar, even your Quran have many versions.
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by MightySparrow: 12:56am On Jun 08, 2023
Lukuluku69:


I belonged to the Quranic position on this. And if you care to know about it, open the Quran and edify yourself.

Artful Dodger. When the Quran is ugly, you believe in Hadith; when Hadith is ugly you believe in Quran.
When both are ugly, you deny the Tasfir.

All of them are produced ugly minds.



grin grin grin
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by MightySparrow: 12:58am On Jun 08, 2023
ANTIlSLAM:


Leave judgement alone and answer the question, shey your alfas only gather you at Ile-kewu to beat hell out of you nii


Beat hell into them.
grin grin grin
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by AntiChristian: 7:42am On Jun 08, 2023
MightySparrow:
Liar, even your Quran have many versions.

I never mention Bible yet! Why are you jumping?
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by Lukuluku69(m): 8:17am On Jun 08, 2023
AntiChristian:


I never mention Bible yet! Why are you jumping?



Elementary Reverse Psychology.

They know the Book is full of Horse poo 💩💩
and to divert attention, they accuse your own Book.

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Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by MightySparrow: 8:44am On Jun 08, 2023
AntiChristian:


I never mention Bible yet! Why are you jumping?


What is your take about Jesus return and your scholars?
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by MightySparrow: 8:45am On Jun 08, 2023
Lukuluku69:



Elementary Reverse Psychology.

They know the Book is full of Horse poo 💩💩
and to divert attention, they accuse your own Book.

Truth is ever straight forward.
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by Lukuluku69(m): 8:48am On Jun 08, 2023
MightySparrow:

Truth is ever straight forward.

You are sha looking for attention.

Now you have it, so what?
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by MightySparrow: 8:50am On Jun 08, 2023
Lukuluku69:


You are sha looking for attention.

Now you have it, so what?


Be conscious of God and always say the truth.
Quran.

Why are Muslims always lying?
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by Lukuluku69(m): 8:52am On Jun 08, 2023
MightySparrow:


What is your take about Jesus return and your scholars?

Any Scholar and every Scholar do have an opinion on myriads of stuff. Sometimes they are right, sometimes they are wide of the Mark.

The Question you ought to ask the Muslims is what is the Quranic and Prophetic Traditions says on any matter not what the Scholars says.

So, in this case put up another thread and invite Muslims to say what the Quran and the Hadeeths says.
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by AntiChristian: 8:53am On Jun 08, 2023
Wetin concern you in such matters?
MightySparrow:


What is your take about Jesus return and your scholars?

Make it your goal to live a quiet life, minding your own business and working with your hands, just as we instructed you before.
1st Letter of Paul to the Thessalonians 4:11

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Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by Lukuluku69(m): 8:53am On Jun 08, 2023
MightySparrow:



Be conscious of God and always say the truth.
Quran.

Why are Muslims always lying?

And The Truth is?

At the bolded, can you point out my lies?
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by Lukuluku69(m): 8:55am On Jun 08, 2023
MightySparrow:



Be conscious of God and always say the truth.
Quran.

Why are Muslims always lying?

Please furniture us with their "Lies"
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by MightySparrow: 9:07am On Jun 08, 2023
Lukuluku69:


Please furniture us with their "Lies"


That Mohammed will marry Virgin Mary in Al - jannah. grin

al-Siyuti (6/395)
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by SIRTee15: 9:08am On Jun 08, 2023
Lukuluku69:


That Nasara is really a funny guy. He "sees" Confusion in this but not in the Thousand and one major Schism in his own Faith. Detailing such major differences will require at least a Thousand Thesis. The guy is only using an Elementary form of Reverse Psychology.

I only see Confusion amongst Muslims the day I see or hear any Muslim openly against the Pillars of the Faith and not misinterpretations of an otherwise plain Text.

Adejare @Advocatejare until you bring Muslims who don't believe in Allah and the Prophethood of Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him), Muslims who dispute about Sollat (having in its place clapping/dancing etc) who observe Ramadan outside the Months stipulated or who regard Zakat as old fashion and never look forward to going for Hajj, then I will agree with you that there is Confusion in our midst, until then, keep roaming, keep digging perhaps you will see the Light....

So are u saying Shia and ahmadiyah Muslims follow true Islam.
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by Shantyken(m): 9:24am On Jun 08, 2023
AntiChristian:
And are you the judge in our affairs?


But do u judge or condemn others in their affairs bro
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by MightySparrow: 9:39am On Jun 08, 2023
AntiChristian:

Wetin concern you in such matters?


Make it your goal to live a quiet life, minding your own business and working with your hands, just as we instructed you before.
1st Letter of Paul to the Thessalonians 4:11

Do you believe in this scripture?
Why then dó you poke your nose into christian issues?
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by MightySparrow: 9:46am On Jun 08, 2023
Lukuluku69:


Any Scholar and every Scholar do have an opinion on myriads of stuff. Sometimes they are right, sometimes they are wide of the Mark.

The Question you ought to ask the Muslims is what is the Quranic and Prophetic Traditions says on any matter not what the Scholars says.

So, in this case put up another thread and invite Muslims to say what the Quran and the Hadeeths says.


Meaning that Muslims can interprete Qur'an with their own colouration , shey?

Are you sunni or shia or... ?

Tell me the position of Quran and Hadith different than the position these scholars of yours.
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by AntiChristian: 10:02am On Jun 08, 2023
MightySparrow:


Do you believe in this scripture?
Why then dó you poke your nose into christian issues?

Do you believe in the one's you quote from the Qur'an?

FoolishQuestionVsStupidAnswer!
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by AntiChristian: 10:03am On Jun 08, 2023
Shantyken:


But do u judge or condemn others in their affairs bro

I judge Christians Scholars in their interpretations? Where?

Hope you know the context before you join midway?
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by MightySparrow: 10:42am On Jun 08, 2023
AntiChristian:


Do you believe in the one's you quote from the Qur'an?

FoolishQuestionVsStupidAnswer!


I don't believe anything in Quran. It is all fabrications.
However, a dead clock can be right twice a day.
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by AntiChristian: 11:57am On Jun 08, 2023
MightySparrow:


I don't believe anything in Quran. It is all fabrications.
However, a dead clock can be right twice a day.

I only believe in whatever the Qur'an confirms from your Book!
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by advocatejare(m): 12:18pm On Jun 08, 2023
SIRTee15:


So are u saying Shia and ahmadiyah Muslims follow true Islam.
Leave am Lukuluku69, AntiChristian and IL- LegalWolf are confused Muslims. They don’t know what they are doing
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by TenQ: 12:34pm On Jun 08, 2023
advocatejare:
AntiChristian, what is the Islamic: Quranic/Hadith position on the second coming of Jesus Christ?

Your brother Lukuluku69 doesn’t know and your scholars are confused, they don’t seem to agree on their positions
AntiChristian , Lukuluku69
The Quran did not say anything about the Return of Jesus!
I just checked!

1. Where did the Nigerian Muslims get the fact that Jesus wouldn't come again/
2. Where did the "Saudi/White" scholars get the information that Jesus is coming back again to rule the whole world from Jerusalem?


Up till now, i never knew that there is no unanimous consensus by Muslims on the Return of Jesus!

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Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by advocatejare(m): 12:49pm On Jun 08, 2023
TenQ:

AntiChristian , Lukuluku69
The Quran did not say anything about the Return of Jesus!
I just checked!

1. Where did the Nigerian Muslims get the fact that Jesus wouldn't come again/
2. Where did the "Saudi/White" scholars get the information that Jesus is coming back again to rule the whole world from Jerusalem?


Up till now, i never knew that there is no unanimous consensus by Muslims on the Return of Jesus!
Oya give us the answer Lukuluku69, AntiChristian, IL- LegalWolf
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by AntiChristian: 12:51pm On Jun 08, 2023
The beliefs of a Muslim towards ‘Eesa ibn Maryam (Jesus the son of Mary – peace be upon him) are derived from the Qur'an and Sunnah!

1. Muslims do believe in ‘Eesa as a Prophet, a messenger and a noble slave of Allah sent to the children of Israel to call them to believe in Allah alone and to worship Him alone.

2. ‘Eesa was never a god or the son of God as the Christians claim.

3. We believe that Allaah supported him with miracles that proved he was speaking the truth. Many Prophets before him did miracles. The miracles includes ‘Eesa speaking while he was still in the cradle, breathing in to a clay bird making it turn to a live bird, healing the blind & lepers, quickening the dead, etc. All this happens solely with the permission of Allah.

4. We believe ‘Eesa has no father and his mother Maryam was a virgin. This is similar to Adam who has no father or Mother and Hawa (Eve) who has no mother but was created from Adam (peace be upon them both).

5. We believe that he permitted to the Jews some of the things that had been forbidden to them.

6. We believe that he did not die and his enemies the Jews did not kill him, rather Allaah saved him from them and raised him up to heaven alive.

7. We believe that he told his followers of the coming of our Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).

8. We believe that he will come back down at the end of time, and will disprove the claim of his enemies the Jews that they killed him, and will disprove the claim of the Christians that he is God or the son of God, and he will not accept anything from them but Islam.

9. Then he will die and the Muslims will offer the funeral prayer for him and bury him.

These are the beliefs of a Muslim towards ‘Eesa ibn Maryam (peace be upon him) as founded in the Books of Islam.

TenQ:

AntiChristian , Lukuluku69
The Quran did not say anything about the Return of Jesus!
I just checked!

1. Where did the Nigerian Muslims get the fact that Jesus wouldn't come again/
2. Where did the "Saudi/White" scholars get the information that Jesus is coming back again to rule the whole world from Jerusalem?


Up till now, i never knew that there is no unanimous consensus by Muslims on the Return of Jesus!
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by TenQ: 1:31pm On Jun 08, 2023
AntiChristian:

The beliefs of a Muslim towards ‘Eesa ibn Maryam (Jesus the son of Mary – peace be upon him) are derived from the Qur'an and Sunnah!

1. Muslims do believe in ‘Eesa as a Prophet, a messenger and a noble slave of Allah sent to the children of Israel to call them to believe in Allah alone and to worship Him alone.

2. ‘Eesa was never a god or the son of God as the Christians claim.

3. We believe that Allaah supported him with miracles that proved he was speaking the truth. Many Prophets before him did miracles. The miracles includes ‘Eesa speaking while he was still in the cradle, breathing in to a clay bird making it turn to a live bird, healing the blind & lepers, quickening the dead, etc. All this happens solely with the permission of Allah.

4. We believe ‘Eesa has no father and his mother Maryam was a virgin. This is similar to Adam who has no father or Mother and Hawa (Eve) who has no mother but was created from Adam (peace be upon them both).

5. We believe that he permitted to the Jews some of the things that had been forbidden to them.

6. We believe that he did not die and his enemies the Jews did not kill him, rather Allaah saved him from them and raised him up to heaven alive.

7. We believe that he told his followers of the coming of our Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).
Thanks
I think I know exactly what you Muslims believe.

AntiChristian:

8. We believe that he will come back down at the end of time, and will disprove the claim of his enemies the Jews that they killed him, and will disprove the claim of the Christians that he is God or the son of God, and he will not accept anything from them but Islam.

9. Then he will die and the Muslims will offer the funeral prayer for him and bury him.

These are the beliefs of a Muslim towards ‘Eesa ibn Maryam (peace be upon him) as founded in the Books of Islam.

I used to think that the above was the general consensus of Muslims.
1. Does that mean that we can't trust what the Nigerian preachers (on the facebook page) said?
2. Do you know if these nigerian preachers are using some weak hadiths or tafsirs to arrive at their position?
3. One of the Arab speakers said that Jesus is judging people in paradise right now, is that true?
Re: Confusion Among Muslims About The Coming Back Of Jesus by SIRTee15: 1:32pm On Jun 08, 2023
AntiChristian:

The beliefs of a Muslim towards ‘Eesa ibn Maryam (Jesus the son of Mary – peace be upon him) are derived from the Qur'an and Sunnah!

1. Muslims do believe in ‘Eesa as a Prophet, a messenger and a noble slave of Allah sent to the children of Israel to call them to believe in Allah alone and to worship Him alone.

2. ‘Eesa was never a god or the son of God as the Christians claim.

3. We believe that Allaah supported him with miracles that proved he was speaking the truth. Many Prophets before him did miracles. The miracles includes ‘Eesa speaking while he was still in the cradle, breathing in to a clay bird making it turn to a live bird, healing the blind & lepers, quickening the dead, etc. All this happens solely with the permission of Allah.

4. We believe ‘Eesa has no father and his mother Maryam was a virgin. This is similar to Adam who has no father or Mother and Hawa (Eve) who has no mother but was created from Adam (peace be upon them both).

5. We believe that he permitted to the Jews some of the things that had been forbidden to them.

6. We believe that he did not die and his enemies the Jews did not kill him, rather Allaah saved him from them and raised him up to heaven alive.

7. We believe that he told his followers of the coming of our Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).

8. We believe that he will come back down at the end of time, and will disprove the claim of his enemies the Jews that they killed him, and will disprove the claim of the Christians that he is God or the son of God, and he will not accept anything from them but Islam.

9. Then he will die and the Muslims will offer the funeral prayer for him and bury him.

These are the beliefs of a Muslim towards ‘Eesa ibn Maryam (peace be upon him) as founded in the Books of Islam.


The concept of Eesa coming back in not in the Qur'an but the hadith. That's why it's not universally accepted by Muslims.
Some Muslim sects believed Jesus survived the crucifixion but eventually died in far away India and he's not coming back.

So above is the believe of a sect in Islam, don't talk for others.

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