Lukuluku69:


If you need evidence that the Zoroastrians are waiting for a Reformer, read up on that Faith. Research! I can actually help out but I won't because you won't believe it coming from me. So, go dig stuff on your own. The Internet and a Device, you have a Library before you.

You are asking me how old was Jesus when his Momma fled with him? Really really? Ask Mathew nah, he wrote the story or better still, entreat the Holy Spirit to inspire you with that? An age could not be given because it was a fabrication. No wise men came, no massacre occured, no Egypt journey. He just lumped stuff together to prove and claim fulfilment of Prophesy.

I wish I had the time, even if I do, you won't believe them. Weaning Christians from Lies foisted on them is an herculean task.

SIRTee15:


Abeg u no get point. All this one no be talk.

Your bible exegesis outside of searching for Muhammed in the bible isn't good enough.

Asking why God can't morphed into angels to redeem them shows u need a lot of studies to do if u are to become a bible critic.

TenQ:

Mohammed is the greatest 419 since Adam. He over did it that Aisha could not help but exclaim why Allah seem to obey Mohammeds slightest wish.

They didn't know that the man under the masquerade costume is the masquerade

advocatejare:

Alright.

You’re just being unreasonable. I was trying to tell you why I refer to him as Ustaz because Ustaz means teacher/leader, that was why I pointed it to you that he had students.

As per the lying pastors, they must have copied it from Muhammad who was notorious for giving false prophecies!

SIRTee15:


None of this verse is new to u but I will not allow u hide behind one finger.

“Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star when it rose and have come to worship him.” Mat 2.2

On coming to the house, they saw the child with his mother Mary, and they bowed down and worshiped him. Mat 2.11

i] The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God. Luke 1.35
Now answer my question.

Did the wise men worshipped little baby Jesus that was enjoying the warm cuddle of his mother OR the divinity in Jesus.

sonmvayina:


I know the bible..I don't believe it..

And I know a woman cannot give birth without the input of a man ...

Mention two people who actually saw him...there where people who could write in his time...so what did they write about him,even if they don't believe him...

AntiChristian:


I won't hide. Would answer if I wish to! And if i don't answer that doesn't mean i don't have a response!



This concept of translating "Bow down" to mean "worship" in all these verses particularly when it involves Jesus is dubious!

And those people that visited were not Christians but Zoroastrians who believed in the stars! How would Idol worshipers worship Jesus?



Who are the magi that visited and bowed for Jesus because they saw his star?

AntiChristian:
Having students means nothing here.

Lying pastors with Bible dey copy Muhammad that they don't believe in?

Your IQ is unstable!

advocatejare:

What does Ustaz mean?

My IQ is far better than that of the lunatic you emulate who used filthy water to do ablution. I hope you are following that sunnah too

Sunan an-Nasa'i 326
It was narrated that Abu Sa'eed Al-Khudri said:
"It was said: 'O Messenger of Allah, you perform Wudu' from the well into which the bodies of dogs, menstrual rags and garbage are thrown?' He said: 'Water is pure and it is not made impure by anything.'"

AntiChristian:


An expert in certain field! It can mean a type of Professor!

Yeah! So how many Book you don write? How many dey follow you like sheeple? Mumu! Wetin you don achieve in terms of political, religious, economical, social aspect of life!

Haven't we argued this out before? Na to always regurgitate your previous vomit!

SIRTee15:


The 3 wise men couldn't be Christians, they came to worship the founder of Christianity.

The Zoroastrians are monotheist. In fact Zoroastrianism is believed to be the world’s first monotheistic religion, predating Judaism.

Many ancient culture believed in one God even outside of abrahamic faith.

So while the Magi may not believe in the same God as the Hebrews, they were familiar with the idea of a monotheistic religion and that's why God used the magi to spread the word to other culture and religion about the only true God.

According to various traditions, the Magi returned to the East and were eventually baptized by Saint Thomas the Apostle and are still regarded by some churches as Christian saints. They were also inspirational to the establishment of early church in Syriac and Persian region.

So now that I answered your question, can u be honest enough to reply mine.
Did the wise men worshipped the baby Jesus or the divinity in baby Jesus?

AntiChristian:
Where did it mention that they were three? And show me where Jesus founded Christianity?

You mean the Hebrew God that the Magi didn't believe in used them to spread the word to other culture...?

You need to show us the verse for all these.

They didn't worship a human baby in a manger! They were idol worshippers who saw his star! Magians no dey worship human! They were Persians who study stars or are your saying Jesus is their Ahura Mazda?

SIRTee15:


Then they worshiped the divinity in Jesus. That's your answer.
They acknowledged the Godhead divinity in baby Jesus and bow down to him.

So all the Muslims argument of Mary taking care of God, God coming out of woman's private part is nonsense. Mary took care of baby Jesus and not God.

You confirmed it yourself. Stop using your mouth to attract curse upon yourself by talking heresy.

Regarding God using magi to spread the word. Sheba spread God's monotheism to Ethiopia.
Balaam was meant to do the same but his greed won't allow him.
The magi believed in monotheism and God directed them to know the only true God.

Shikenah.

AntiChristian:


This your divinity is in the seeing of a star right by non-Christians idolaters? Lol! Laughable!

Of course that's inane, illogical and irrational.
What did i confirmed?

Even if the Magi believed in monotheism they still were not Jews nor Christians!
Rest bro!
Those Magis are Idolaters!

Jesus is not Ahura Mazda that is worshiped in Zoroastrianism!

If God could use non-Christians/Jews to spread monotheism then he won't have killed many in the Old testament!

AntiChristian:
We are not created to agree! The Prophet has already said there will be divisions!

Do all Christians agree as one? Why are there over a thousand Denomination of Christianity in Nigeria? Your IQ is low!

The one who brings a false statement should explain it! Tabari is not an Hadith nor Qur'an verse!

Some Bible Stories too exists in other books before it. Does that proof that the Bible was copied from those books?

Na Paul and your Church father package letters for you as scriptures!

Muslims are the ones who usually call themselves the slaves/servant of Allah. Christians seldom call themselves by such except calling themselves sons of God.

But it's amazing why these servitude exist in the Bible.

1. Paul allegedly said in Romans 6:16:
Don’t you know that when you offer yourselves to someone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one you obey—whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness?

This means if we obey God then we are God's slaves!

2. Paul continues later in Romans 6:22:
But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life.

Here we see that those who have been set free from sins become slaves of God!

3. Luke also said in Acts 3:13
The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus.

Here we see Jesus relegated to being a servant of God by Luke.

(Many Bible translations including NKJV used "Servant Jesus" in the above verse but KJV, Catholic and Aramaic Bible translation used "son Jesus". Amplified Bible decided to used "Servant and son Jesus" showing amplification of course. Young's Literal translation used "His Child Jesus".)

Allah says in the Qur'an that Jesus called himself a slave of Allah.
"He ['Iesa (Jesus)] said: Verily! I am a slave of Allah, He has given me the Scripture and made me a Prophet;"
Qur'an 19:30

So we see Jesus, righteous people are slaves/servants of Allah/God from the Bible and Qur'an!

Are Christians slaves of God too?

It is evident you possess the devil! What's holy spirit inspired in what you typed now and before?
You type like a JS 2 student!

AntiChristian:


This your divinity is in the seeing of a star right by non-Christians idolaters? Lol! Laughable!

SIRTee15:


See Muslim calling Zoroastrian

To us Christians, U Muslims are more pagans than Zoroastrian.
Not only are u guys pagans but big time idolaters, 2ce a year u must go to Mecca to kiss black stone, u can't pray unless u face the Mecca.
U people engage in daily ritualistic routines just because u want to pray.
Muhammed sold a scam to u people about a god called Allah. Who is he? A god that has a shin and 2 right hands.
The Almighty God, the God of the bible is a spirit. An invisible God.

Zoroastrian was the first monotheistic religion in the world- the believe in One God. They are definitely not idolaters in the true sense of the world.

God can use non Jews to spread his word and fulfil his prophecy. God used king Cyrus of Persia to restore Judah and encouraged the scribes to compile the biblical texts. Is he a Jew.
Same for king Darius. What about queen Sheba who took the true God to Ethiopia.

If u want to talk about killings in the old testament, open a different topic for that. Don't be jumping from one topic to another.

tonytony208:


Tell me what's logical about believing a book descending from heaven according to a prophet without prophecy and a prophet that no one knew about until he started spreading his religion by committing murder.

tonytony208:


There is no agreement among you, yet you want to make others believe you are the best. You should focus on resolving the division in your camp before spreading your fake religion based on a fake unverifiable poorly-copied book to the world.

Each book in the Bible was obtained from scrolls earlier written by individuals inspired by God. In fact, there are so many scrolls. The 66 or thereabout scrolls were just few of them. We Christians aren't pretending that Bible books descend directly from heaven like you Muslims are pretending. Mohamed copied those texts from the Bible and changed the stories some to suit his selfish interest.

Thank God the Bible has a traceable origin. What's the origin of the Quran? Don't even tell me it descended from heaven. . You should feel very stupid if you believe that crappy story.

A son can be a servant, but a slave can never be a son.

Check below for Bible texts that refer to followers of Christ (Christians) as sons of God):

He predestined us for adoption as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will. Ephesians 1:5

To redeem those who were under the law, so that we might receive adoption as sons. And because you are sons, God has sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, crying, “Abba! Father!” So you are no longer a slave, but a son, and if a son, then an heir through God.
Galatians 4:5-7

Beloved, we are God’s children now, and what we will be has not yet appeared; but we know that when he appears we shall be like him, because we shall see him as he is.
1 John 3:2

This means that it is not the children of the flesh who are the children of God, but the children of the promise are counted as offspring.
Romans 9:8

But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God,
John 1:12

See what kind of love the Father has given to us, that we should be called children of God; and so we are. The reason why the world does not know us is that it did not know him.
1 John 3:1

For in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith.
Galatians 3:26

For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God. For you did not receive the spirit of slavery to fall back into fear, but you have received the Spirit of adoption as sons, by whom we cry, “Abba! Father!” The Spirit himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, and if children, then heirs—heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, provided we suffer with him in order that we may also be glorified with him. For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worth comparing with the glory that is to be revealed to us.
Romans 8:14-19.

Dear Abọ̀rìsá Antichristian, don't compare yourselves to Christians. We are children of God, while you are a slave of your idol called allah, the idol worshipped in Mecca before Mohamed was born.

Àsírí ti tú.

AntiChristian:


You should just google the Prophecy of Muhammad!

Why do you guys tell lies anyhow like this? Everything you typed above is false!

tonytony208:


I hope his prophecy also said Muslim men will start kissing the penis of small boys like him.

Your so-called prophet is a sexually immoral dog.

There was no boundary to his sexual perversion.

AntiChristian:


I just told your brother that you guys type gibberish! So na Holy Spirit inspire these nonsense to you?

AntiChristian:


You're free to regard us as anything you like. You can't do worse that Paul in his letters turned scriptures! But must you guys mix lies into your speech just to defend yourself? I have never being to Mecca 2ce as you have said we must go!

Your God that Moses saw face to face is an invisible God? Same God Jacob fought and won? You're simple pathetic! Catholism and Christianity is paganism! Christmas, Xmas tree and father Christmas (foreign masquerade) is paganism! Holy communion where you eat bread and wine thinking you're eating Jesus's body and drinking his like cannibals is paganism! Even the Christian belief of vicarious atonement is paganism! Trinity is paganism! God turned man is paganism!

What's the name of their God? Is it Jesus? If they worshiped Jesus then Jesus is a Zoroastrian God! Ahura Mazda!

So no point in God killing many people in the old testament since he could have used all of them to spread his word! Isn't this foolishness?
Why can't God use Sodom and Gomorrah but had to destroy them?


You started the diversion by comparing Zoroastrianism to Islam in terms of idolatry mentioning Mecca which wasn't part of your Magi discussion!
Seems you can't even follow the rules you're promoting!