I truly need ur help to make me understand why u dont believe in GOD and let me see if it might make sense to me .
Because the evedence is everywhere of GOD's existence but u still choose to be ignorant.

y not start up with your "evidence" of god then we can debunk them successfully to show you why we dont believe in your daddy big boss ywhw

Dont tell me u re scared to present ur evidence.

I have issues with the supernatural gods, cos if there were those, this would be a supernatural world.

Kay 17: I have issues with the supernatural gods, cos if there were those, this would be a supernatural world.

i dont get ur point pls elaborate.

lilcutie8916: Dont tell me u re scared to make me believe.

You're a male lil cutie?
Where is this evidence you speak of? You will have to enlighten us

From a knowledge of God's work we shall know Him~Robert Boyle

lilcutie8916: i dont get ur point pls elaborate.

A supernatural world will be one that lacks a constant personality, its irrational.

k2039: From a knowledge of God's work we shall know Him~Robert Boyle

That already presumes god.

I don't understand re u guys scared to present ur facts well i am not surprised.

The fact is the Christian god is assumed to exist and yet incomprehensible

No facts how typical i was expecting some form of very super inteligent mentaly independent people as u call urselves.

lilcutie8916: No facts how typical i was expecting some form of very super inteligent mentaly independent people as u call urselves.

What facts were you expecting?

lilcutie8916: No facts how typical i was expecting some form of very super inteligent mentaly independent people as u call urselves.

We don't believe in god(s) because there is no evidence to support his/her/their existence. In your first post, you claimed that there was such evidence and that it was everywhere. We're still waiting for you to point some of it out so we can examine it and either debunk it or turn from our wicked ways and become devout christians/muslims/Orunmila-worshippers.

Your move.

Evil Brain:

We don't believe in god(s) because there is no evidence to support his/her/their existence. In your first post, you claimed that there was such evidence and that it was everywhere. We're still waiting for you to point some of it out so we can examine it and either debunk it or turn from our wicked ways and become devout christians/muslims/Orunmila-worshippers.

Your move.

lol.. Exactly why I kept quiet after my first post.

Bring forth your evidence OP...

Op, you need to realise that the atheists will never believe whatever you say to convince them of God's existence and will unfailingly come up with an argument because they have blocked their minds to whatever proof there is that God exists and they look down on religions as illogical and meant for the deluded.
No offense atheists, love you all.

I'll break it down for you, though I really should get back to work....

You are the one claiming there is a god, not us. You've mentioned evidence, where is it?

If I told you that my dog can jump over the moon you'd ask me for proof. If I demanded you accept it on faith you'd think I was being rude, no? If you just accepted it you'd be an idi.ot, and we are not idiots.

Then again, people think lightning will strike their enemies after visiting some really broke dude in a hut (it only works in villages though), or talking snakes, etc so meh

Wiegraf you have never experienced anything of the supernatural?

fellis: Wiegraf you have never experienced anything of the supernatural?

There is no such thing as supernatural, just inconsistent explanations.

fellis: Wiegraf you have never experienced anything of the supernatural?

I have
I was in a boarding school see. After visiting day, I was enjoying some garri (complete with kulin kuly) but there were some bros who insisted on parasiting. I was hungry so I tried to get them away. But suddenly, one screamed "Winch!", and we all ran.... I didn't want to, but everyone was doing it so I thought what the heck. I didn't see the winchie, but the garri disappeared and the bros were all smirking, I've never figured out why.
That's my only experience with the supernatural.

wiegraf:

I have
I was in a boarding school see. After visiting day, I was enjoying some garri (complete with kulin kuly) but there were some bros who insisted on parasiting. I was hungry so I tried to get them away. But suddenly, one screamed "Winch!", and we all ran.... I didn't want to, but everyone was doing it so I thought what the heck. I didn't see the winchie, but the garri disappeared and the bros were all smirking, I've never figured out why.
That's my only experience with the supernatural.

lol....the garri disappeared? Why is it that claims of miracles always lack details? Did the whole bowl disappear or only the garri? Did the garri disappear with only the water left in the bowl?

Sorry, we can not believe your miraculous story for some reasons;

1) Garri is bad for eyesight, you might not have seen things clearly
2) Fear is also a recipe for hallucination and mistakes,therefore bad memory
3) Garri drinkers are never reliable when they are dispossessed of their garri
4) Boarding school is a ground for fairytales and lies eg bush baby.


lol....

On topic


1) There is no consistent definition of God. Which God? Jesus Christ or Allah? Is god a male or female? Does god create evil or not? Does god rest or not? Is god a force or a spirit? Is god a trinity or not?

2) There is no evidence for god. Only mysteries used as evidence for god. People use miracles and the origin of the universe. A mystery can not be proof of anything.

@ Op,ever heard of russell's teapot? U'r d one laying claim to d existence of a god n several evidences of his existence too.pls,kindly give us a few of these.if u ask me,i think there's more evidence dat god doesnt exist.even some theists will agree with me.

Kay 17:

There is no such thing as supernatural, just inconsistent explanations.

See what I mean? How can you experience it when you tell yourself that it doesn't exist?
@wie,
cool story bro.

MacDaddy01: On topic

2) There is no evidence for god. Only mysteries used as evidence for god. People use miracles and the origin of the universe. A mystery can not be proof of anything.

So your problem is not that God doesn't reveal Himself, it is that He uses mysteries to do so?
Anyway for your info, God reveals Himself in different ways to different people. An atheist like yourself became a believer not from witnessing mysteries but from reading books and broadening his knowledge of the origin of the earth and human beings. Besides these 'mysteries' serve to let you know that a spiritual realm exists and that everything isn't all about the logical and physical.

fellis:
So your problem is not that God doesn't reveal Himself, it is that He uses mysteries to do so?
Anyway for your info, God reveals Himself in different ways to different people. An atheist like yourself became a believer not from witnessing mysteries but from reading books and broadening his knowledge of the origin of the earth and human beings. Besides these 'mysteries' serve to let you know that a spiritual realm exists and that everything isn't all about the logical and physical.

Wow, what foolish thinking!

A mystery is not proof of anything. You dont say that "we dont know how Mr X died, therefore God killed him".

The pagan would say that the god of rain/water reveals himself through mysterious floods. That is the same nonsense you make when you claim that god reveals himself through mysteries.

Another thing is that a mystery by itself is unkown and not understandable. For you to claim that god did it is to acknowledge that you understand the mystery. Paradox. It is like christians claiming that the world was created in 6 days; are they geologists?

Ok where do i start . If for example u see a statue that is like a hundred years old first thing that come to ur mind is some dude carved this right. When archeologists find a triangular shaped rock with some chipings on it they say man made it as a spear head. Ok look at the brains u use in debunking ur selves and u tell me that it evolved by chance and it wasn't designed.
Our solar system arranged in perfect harmony and that also happened by chance from one big explosion. If a sculpture cant happen by chance but had to be made by someone then why cant ur perfect anatomy be made by a supreme designer.

lilcutie8916: Ok where do i start . If for example u see a statue that is like a hundred years old first thing that come to ur mind is some dude carved this right. When archeologists find a triangular shaped rock with some chipings on it they say man made it as a spear head. Ok look at the brains u use in debunking ur selves and u tell me that it evolved by chance and it wasn't designed.
Our solar system arranged in perfect harmony and that also happened by chance from one big explosion. If a sculpture cant happen by chance but had to be made by someone then why cant ur perfect anatomy be made by a supreme designer.

Your analogy does not apply to living things, the furthest we can go with the origin of living things is that they evolved from other living things. If you want to claim god, you are going in a circular argument because the question becomes; who made god? If u say that the origin of a statue is a human sculptor, who made the human? It is an infinite regress.



Our solar system is not perfect. Some planets too hot for lie, some too cold. Furthermore, there are other failed solar systems and our solar system will fail in the future. Even if there is a a god, he is a rubbish creator that makes a lot of galaxies many of which we know to be uninhabitable and some failed with exploding stars.

lilcutie8916: Ok where do i start . If for example u see a statue that is like a hundred years old first thing that come to ur mind is some dude carved this right. When archeologists find a triangular shaped rock with some chipings on it they say man made it as a spear head. Ok look at the brains u use in debunking ur selves and u tell me that it evolved by chance and it wasn't designed.
Our solar system arranged in perfect harmony and that also happened by chance from one big explosion. If a sculpture cant happen by chance but had to be made by someone then why cant ur perfect anatomy be made by a supreme designer.

you need to understand something,these arguments are not new.you should realise that almost all atheists and agnostics at one time believed in the fairytale of god.
lemme put it to you this way,even if god exists,he or she isnt the one potrayed in the bible or quran.those religions are human inventions.
even if god exists,he didnt have a son named jesus who came to the world to die for the sins of man that god created knowing fully well that he will commit the sin that will require his only son dying to redeem the man god created.you confused yet?

even if god exists,he didnt select a group of stubborn nitwits called isreal and send them on a murderous rage around the "world".

recently,i started a research on astrophysics and my findings have been astounding.it might do you some good to do your research

MacDaddy01:
Wow, what foolish thinking!
A mystery is not proof of anything. You dont say that "we dont know how Mr X died, therefore God killed him".

this isn't what I am saying at all, stop trivializing it.

MacDaddy01:

The pagan would say that the god of rain/water reveals himself through mysterious floods. That is the same nonsense you make when you claim that god reveals himself through mysteries.

It isn't the same thing at all. Most times, mysteries that have been revealed to us in religion to be the manifestation of God's work happen exactly the way we are told they are going to happen.
I am not sure how to explain it sadly. But somethings like predictions or dreams in which the things you see happen in real life exactly how they appeared in the dream or prayers that you make and then you get what you asked for exactly how you asked

MacDaddy01:

Another thing is that a mystery by itself is unkown and not understandable. For you to claim that god did it is to acknowledge that you understand the mystery. Paradox.

That's not true. It isn't a paradox.
A mystery is not understandable by man but we know that God is responsible for them, that doesn't mean that we understand the mystery.

Delafruita:
lemme put it to you this way,even if god exists,he or she isnt the one potrayed in the bible or quran.those religions are human inventions.
recently,i started a research on astrophysics and my findings have been astounding.it might do you some good to do your research

Is there a scientific explanation why scientists not been able to get the exact same combination of atoms that brought about the first life on earth?

@OP,IF YOU CAN PROVIDE ME A PHOTOGRAPH OF THE OLD MAN IN THE CLOUDS,THEN I AM WILLING TO BECOME A CHRISTIAN IMMEDIATELY!!!.............................I JUST PRAY THAT HE DOESN'T LOOK LIKE BABA SUWE!!!................CAUSE THAT BLACK FACE WILL SCARE ALL THE LITTLE CHILDREN INTO THE WORSHIP OF LUCIFER(THE MAGNIFICENT BEAUTY)!!!