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Come down from your high horse and study, study and study. Nazism has nothing to do with Christianity in its article of faith-the handy work of Hitler. Throughout his rein, Hitler, with zeal and determination propagated Darwin "Natural Selection"-Darwinism. He never invoke Christendom article of faith that reads love your brother as you love yourself.

Sequel to this, yes, communism is state religion. But I never knew, but I could see you are right, thanks for making my point come alive. I thought Communism is the doctrine of the conditions of the liberation of the proletariat. Who are the Proletariat? Proletariat is that class in society which lives entirely from the sale of its labor and does not draw profit from any kind of capital; whose weal and woe, whose life and death, whose sole existence depends on the demand for labor. That is, demand for materialism. Under communism, what was the condition of the Proletariat? Poor, wretched, weak in 19th century till today. The articles of faith of communism, con Atheism is materialism, which is propagated by Darwinism.

As for Fascism, may be you don't know it was founded during First World War(WWI) and got its article of faith in Darwinism. Brother, read through pages laid in history to confirm my assertion-facts. None of them has any religion echo of "thy brothers helper". But oppression and Survival of The Fittest.

To the Slavery, slavery thrives when people start group classification-Social Stratification-Natural Selection, con Survival of the Fittest. Kindly read about these issues. The article of faith of Darwinism and his predecessor in Greek Era. The first record of slavery was in 1762 BC.

The scripture never preach all you ascribed to it. These are widely conspicuous in Darwinism articles of faith adopted by all the isms.

MacDaddy01:




You are a muslim and you have the nerve to point fingers at atheists about violence?


You trolling?

Just research through the genesis of violence in the old world and the present. You will understand from where this world is coming from. This is the fallout of seed of discord plant in materialism. So you believe the calamities of the WW1 and WW2 will not have multiplier effects in ages that follow. Be wise brother, the reason the Korean war still abide. The recent China-Japanese face-off, oh started yesterday! A calamity will ever begets calamity, as WW1 begets WW2. Reason my brother. Religion has no hand in these. Have you read how Christians were persecuted in its early stage. And how how Christianity came to power in suddenness. Kindly read about world history, you will no doubt connects all these.

Hye-Bits:


Albert Einstein theory of general relativity has made a fine conclusion to the creation facts. Einstein had a great sympathy for materialist/atheism/Darwinism. In his theory of relativity, Einstein scientifically discovered that universe could not be static. The scientific fact that rupture the believe of these "isms". But they convince Einstein that matter was absolute, this made him to add "Cosmological Constant" to his equation in order to make it compatible to Atheist view. Years later, Einstein was to admit that this "Cosmological Constant" was the biggest mistake of his career. This believe strengthen atheism as propaganda and problem of scientific and enlightened world-A cancer. They have ever lived with this propaganda since Greek Era. Atheism will soon be leveled in history and God supreme promise for his creator will soon be manifested. No matter how the unbelievers hate it.

Einstein didn't really discover that, but wanted a static universe for philosophical reasons, yes, so he added the constant. Some catholic priest showed him the universe should have a beginning, and the fact that a man in a robe was pointing this out made him suspicious, for very good reason. Science and religion should never mix, period. But the priest was right, and the astrologer hubble showed einstein the universe was indeed expanding. So guess what Einstein did, he admitted he had been wrong, maybe even unscientific in ignoring the priest's claims (maybe unfair to the priest even), and fully accepted the priest's assertions, even calling the constant the 'biggest blunder of my life'. This is a demonstration of the scientific method at work. When you are proven wrong, you concede, alter or discard the theory, and then continue using it for the benefit of all. Regardless of creed, race, or religion.
Note though, the cosmological constant was in fact added back into the equations for general relativity, but how it works is still a mystery. It is only known that it is related to the for now exotic dark energy/matter in the universe, which account for over 90 percent of the universe's mass. Also, even without the priests involvement, it's fairly obvious this universe has a starting point, or at least resets every once in a while, for other reasons. For instance, considering entropy is irreversible, if this universe had existed forever then we wouldn't be here now, in fact there'd be nothing but chaos more or else.

Rant: the rest of this post not so relevant to the cosmological constant
Some eediots actually consider the scientific method dogmatic. Others demand that their texts written in antiquity (like say 1400 years ago by some probably schizophrenic dude in a cave) are divinely inspired, absolute truths, so they cannot be changed. Said texts are shown to be wrong and widely inaccurate all the time, they also have absolutely no evidence to back up their claims of divinity or whatever, yet these people demand the rest of us take them seriously. Luckily we have rights, scientists can tell these eediots to stfu and stay out of their way while they continue to build the nice things said eediots will use to enrichen their lives. Unless, of course, one of them actually brings up good scientific evidence to back up his claim, like your priest.

What in the world does relativity have to do with evolution, or 'darwinism'?

I'm not even sure what to make of your posts, troll or no? What in the world are you on about?
There is more, but I'm sort of busy atm, I'll leave it here, for now.

wiegraf:

Rant: the rest of this post not so relevant to the cosmological constant
Some eediots actually consider the scientific method dogmatic. Others demand that their texts written in antiquity (like say 1400 years ago by some probably schizophrenic dude in a cave) are divinely inspired, absolute truths, so they cannot be changed. Said texts are shown to be wrong and widely inaccurate all the time, they also have absolutely no evidence to back up their claims of divinity or whatever, yet these people demand the rest of us take them seriously. Luckily we have rights, scientists can tell these eediots to stfu and stay out of their way while they continue to build the nice things said eediots will use to enrichen their lives. Unless, of course, one of them actually brings up good scientific evidence to back up his claim, like your priest.

Read this thread. You will go from ranting to being speechless and a little surprised and confused at the ignorance being diplayed by these people that are supposedly educated..........or at least have some formal education.

https://www.nairaland.com/1047418/science-more-accurate-than-bible

https://www.nairaland.com/1047418/science-more-accurate-than-bible

Kay 17: BUT communism and Nazism are ideological enemies, how come they get to praise themselves??

Thank you brother. But this is it. No they are not ideological enemies, Hitler rode the socialism to get to power and later redefined to suit his objective. The only difference between his and Marxism was the cast off of the private property which Hitler reject. But this in view of bringing advantage to Aryan race(male among) which he claimed was the superior among the race. Maxism favour distribution based on need while Hitler favour Aryan. If you read through their Articles of faith, it tends towards materialism, con atheism. As you can see in religious sects Judaism, Christianity and Islam of today. This does not stop them to proclaim that God creates our world and that they will return to him. The articles of faith is the bottom line here.

Martian:

Read this thread. You will go from ranting to being speechless and a little surprised and confused at the ignorance being diplayed by these people that are supposedly educated..........or at least have some formal education.

https://www.nairaland.com/1047418/science-more-accurate-than-bible

https://www.nairaland.com/1047418/science-more-accurate-than-bible

Oh but I have, sort off. I follow a bit, cringe, then un-follow. Then out of some sort of perverse desire I follow again, despair at our situation, then un-follow. @Mkmyers sure has patience. There's little he, or about 99.9 percent of us could do about the situation there imo.

wiegraf:

Einstein didn't really discover that, but wanted a static universe for philosophical reasons, yes, so he added the constant. Some catholic priest showed him the universe should have a beginning, and the fact that a man in a robe was pointing this out made him suspicious, for very good reason. Science and religion should never mix, period. But the priest was right, and the astrologer hubble showed einstein the universe was indeed expanding. So guess what Einstein did, he admitted he had been wrong, maybe even unscientific in ignoring the priest's claims (maybe unfair to the priest even), and fully accepted the priest's assertions, even calling the constant the 'biggest blunder of my life'. This is a demonstration of the scientific method at work. When you are proven wrong, you concede, alter or discard the theory, and then continue using it for the benefit of all. Regardless of creed, race, or religion.
Note though, the cosmological constant was in fact added back into the equations for general relativity, but how it works is still a mystery. It is only known that it is related to the for now exotic dark energy/matter in the universe, which account for over 90 percent of the universe's mass. Also, even without the priests involvement, it's fairly obvious this universe has a starting point, or at least resets every once in a while, for other reasons. For instance, considering entropy is irreversible, if this universe had existed forever then we wouldn't be here now, in fact there'd be nothing but chaos more or else.

Rant: the rest of this post not so relevant to the cosmological constant
Some eediots actually consider the scientific method dogmatic. Others demand that their texts written in antiquity (like say 1400 years ago by some probably schizophrenic dude in a cave) are divinely inspired, absolute truths, so they cannot be changed. Said texts are shown to be wrong and widely inaccurate all the time, they also have absolutely no evidence to back up their claims of divinity or whatever, yet these people demand the rest of us take them seriously. Luckily we have rights, scientists can tell these eediots to stfu and stay out of their way while they continue to build the nice things said eediots will use to enrichen their lives. Unless, of course, one of them actually brings up good scientific evidence to back up his claim, like your priest.

What in the world does relativity have to do with evolution, or 'darwinism'?

I'm not even sure what to make of your posts, troll or no? What in the world are you on about?
There is more, but I'm sort of busy atm, I'll leave it here, for now.

Ok brother, to set it all right. Through Einstein experiment with the Special Relativity which applied to special case of inertia reference frame, he had undoubtedly found out against the claim that time was absolute which defeat Atheism that he had sympathy. Kindly don't turn this discuss to a folktale, no man in robe told Einstein no story. He simply fell for erroneous believe of materialism/atheism. Edwin Hubble discovery in Mount Wilson was a great blow to Atheism/materialist. But why did front line materialist/atheist like Hawkins fought back with concept of Imaginary Time, Oscillating Model, Quantum Model of Universe and their likes? They did this simply to defeat the concept of Creation if you never know.

Again, concerning the cosmological constant re-introduction there is no mystery how it works. It was just not done in the concept the Einstein erroneously did to suggest static universe but to affirm cosmic acceleration which is found in Dark Matter negative pressure relative homogeneous distribution in space.

Before 20th century it has been your believe that universe has no beginning and your stand has been to discredit the teaching in bible to race people to atheism. But when you are beaten you quickly come up with points that discredit your believe to corroborate it. Atheists be sincere once. Why did you propagate Darwinism to make it seemed scientific, just to antagonize atheism. Your education and intellect is what really need call into question.

At instance you use science to discredit religion but when the ball is out of your court you claim science and religion can't meet, what an hypocrisy.

I'm surprised you ask what relativity has to do with Evolution. For your enlightenment, Relativity said universe in not by accident while Evolution read Universe is product of accident(Atheism believe).

If my writeup caused you to reply as such, then we have much more to discuss. Come up with your facts that there is no hand of divinity is cosmic and lets proof and disprove one another points to drive points home.

^^

Bible or other divine Scripture are not book of science. Your claims using science as yardsticks to discredit religion in 19th century when it serves you. The people of scriptures are also using the same yardstick in 20th century and now on you when science disprove your claims. Science is never divine mouthpiece. Get that, we never deligate science this authority but we are only using it as payback for you. So now you are bitter. Not about bitterness but intellectual cross-check is what we need between Theism and Atheism.

Hye-Bits:


Ok brother, to set it all right. Through Einstein experiment with the Special Relativity which applied to special case of inertia reference frame, he had undoubtedly found out against the claim that time was absolute which defeat Atheism that he had sympathy. Kindly don't turn this discuss to a folktale, no man in robe told Einstein no story. He simply fell for erroneous believe of materialism/atheism. Edwin Hubble discovery in Mount Wilson was a great blow to Atheism/materialist. But why did front line materialist/atheist like Hawkins fought back with concept of Imaginary Time, Oscillating Model, Quantum Model of Universe and their likes? They did this simply to defeat the concept of Creation if you never know.

Again, concerning the cosmological constant re-introduction there is no mystery how it works. It was just not done in the concept the Einstein erroneously did to suggest static universe but to affirm cosmic acceleration which is found in Dark Matter negative pressure relative homogeneous distribution in space.

Before 20th century it has been your believe that universe has no beginning and your stand has been to discredit the teaching in bible to race people to atheism. But when you are beaten you quickly come up with points that discredit your believe to corroborate it. Atheists be sincere once. Why did you propagate Darwinism to make it seemed scientific, just to antagonize atheism. Your education and intellect is what really need call into question.

At instance you use science to discredit religion but when the ball is out of your court you claim science and religion can't meet, what an hypocrisy.

I'm surprised you ask what relativity has to do with Evolution. For your enlightenment, Relativity said universe in not by accident while Evolution read Universe is product of accident(Atheism believe).

If my writeup caused you to reply as such, then we have much more to discuss. Come up with your facts that there is no hand of divinity is cosmic and lets proof and disprove one another points to drive points home.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Lema%C3%AEtre

Before you go around making claims couldn't you at least verify them? Or at least make it clear that you are a novice to the topic, or something.
From your write ups we have very little to discuss, you have no grasp of the topics, at all. The posts are for the most part complete nonsense. I'm no expert but even I can tell you're completely lost.
At least, for the sake of clarity, explain clearly what evolution has to do relativity?

Then you accuse me of making folktales

wiegraf:

http://en.wikipedia.org/Georges_Lematre

Before you go around making claims couldn't you at least verify them? Or at least make it clear that you are a novice to the topic, or something.
From your write ups we have very little to discuss, you have no grasp of the topics, at all. The posts are for the most part complete nonsense. I'm no expert but even I can tell you're completely lost.
At least, for the sake of clarity, explain clearly what evolution has to do relativity?

Then you accuse me of making folktales

The reason you can't comprehend is because you are lettered but unschooled. I can lecture you with my notes on Georges Lemaitre that you cited in wikipedia, I had studied that personality but you goorgled and wikied him, an evidence of your ignorance. I never knew what to call myself if go to your link before responding to you. The Belgian Astronomer was among those who sealed your faith in absolute universe-materialist/atheist believe of old. He only did his work to corroborate the work of the Russian, Alexander Friedman, a computation that shows that the universe structure was not static and that even the tiny impulse might be sufficient to cause the whole structure to expand or contract according to Einstein's Theory of Relativity.

Your problem is that you never research but run to google and wiki to defend your religion,Atheism, with jot and titters of information. Sorry for you.

What majority of the population do not know is that Evolution is kept alive not because it has a scientific worth but because it is an ideological obligation. It is simply a dogma that has corrupted scientific world which you must believe, otherwise you are ostracized and labeled as unscientific. So materialist/atheism thrive on the propaganda that atheism lead to science.

They intimidate us that deep knowledge in science will lead religious people to atheism. The simple truth is that the modern science thrive on the believe in God as it ethos.

In ancient Greek, most of the pagan philosophers defended the idea of Evolution as a dogmatic believe to deny the facts of creation. Idea of evolution in that era constitute the bedrock of pagan philosophies.

However, it is not the ancient philosophies that ignite and stimulate modern Science, but believe in God. Contrary to what Atheists make us believe to day, that creationism is unscientific.

Most of the pioneer of modern science has strong and firm believe in God. So when they study science they sought to discover universe in the light of their faith in God. And to perceive His laws and details in His creation.

Astronomers such as Copernicus, Keppler, and Galileo; the father of paleontology, Cuvier; the pioneer of botany and zoology, Linnaeus;and Isaac Newton, who is referred to as the "greatest scientist who ever lived", all studied science believing not only in the existence of God but also that the whole universe came into being as a result of His creation.

One of the founders of modern physics, German physician Max Planck of Plank Constant said: "Anybody who has been seriously engaged in scientific work of any kind realizes that over the entrance to the gates of the temple of science are written the words: Ye must have faith. It is a quality which the scientist cannot dispense with."

The atheist has put forward this deceit of "unscientific" if you see science in the light of God. The theory of evolution is the outcome of the materialist philosophy that surfaced with the reawakening of ancient materialistic philosophies and became widespread in the 19th century.

Evolution-Darwinism/Atheism is simply the reawakening of the ancient Greek pagan philosophies. They do not have any proof whatsoever which make Evolution scientific.

Emm, genius, aka @hye, you still haven't told me what evolution has to do with relativity.

Also, does the tone of my post imply I've read only the wiki article? (Actually, If I had read that wiki article I would have added details like the fact that Einstein praised him highly eventually, and the priest himself was against mixing science and religion despite being devout. He was against the pope using his model to support creationism for instance. The article is rather good actually.) Does the gist of your posts indicate in anyway that you know what you are talking about? I've come across propaganda written by islamic 'scholars' before. They are truly, truly sad thing to behold. It would take a first rate poet to accurately describe just how terrible they are. If only I could find the writer of whatever nonsense you've been reading, I'd show him your posts, the embarrassment might be enough to make him reconsider writing any more such 'papers'. Except I'm pretty sure he's as deluded and confused as you are. Or being that it's propaganda, he might actually be pretty delighted with the results of his not-so-hard work.
If you are actually misrepresenting his ideas, then well...
I'll be optimistic and conclude he's the confused or disingenuous one, not you.

Hye-Bits:
What majority of the population do not know is that Evolution is kept alive not because it has a scientific worth but because it is an ideological obligation. It is simply a dogma that has corrupted scientific world which you must believe, otherwise you are ostracized and labeled as unscientific. So materialist/atheism thrive on the propaganda that atheism lead to science.

They intimidate us that deep knowledge in science will lead religious people to atheism. The simple truth is that the modern science thrive on the believe in God as it ethos.

In ancient Greek, most of the pagan philosophers defended the idea of Evolution as a dogmatic believe to deny the facts of creation. Idea of evolution in that era constitute the bedrock of pagan philosophies.

However, it is not the ancient philosophies that ignite and stimulate modern Science, but believe in God. Contrary to what Atheists make us believe to day, that creationism is unscientific.

Most of the pioneer of modern science has strong and firm believe in God. So when they study science they sought to discover universe in the light of their faith in God. And to perceive His laws and details in His creation.

Astronomers such as Copernicus, Keppler, and Galileo; the father of paleontology, Cuvier; the pioneer of botany and zoology, Linnaeus;and Isaac Newton, who is referred to as the "greatest scientist who ever lived", all studied science believing not only in the existence of God but also that the whole universe came into being as a result of His creation.

One of the founders of modern physics, German physician Max Planck of Plank Constant said: "Anybody who has been seriously engaged in scientific work of any kind realizes that over the entrance to the gates of the temple of science are written the words: Ye must have faith. It is a quality which the scientist cannot dispense with."

The atheist has put forward this deceit of "unscientific" if you see science in the light of God. The theory of evolution is the outcome of the materialist philosophy that surfaced with the reawakening of ancient materialistic philosophies and became widespread in the 19th century.

Evolution-Darwinism/Atheism is simply the reawakening of the ancient Greek pagan philosophies. They do not have any proof whatsoever which make Evolution scientific.

What do you think the theory of evolution says?