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Re: The Act Of 'giving To God' As Explained By Pastor E. A. Adeboye by PalmTree(m): 8:47am On Nov 21, 2012
oloto: Please, let's be careful about the way we abuse d men of God. If you don't like their message, free them. Its is better for us not to judge that we ourselves might not be judged. Remember, His word says that we shouldn't touch His annointed. Moreover, if pastors preach God's word for their personal gain, it is still Gods word. Not your own. So, let Him deal with them himself.

Gosh! The sooner we stopped this idea of swallowing everything that any MOG says hook, line and sinker without giving it deep thoughts the better. The bible is there for every man to read and moreover its because of quotes like 'touch not my anointed' that some fake pastors con unsuspecting individuals.
When Rev King was indicted, would you have advocated that he should be freed just because he is a man of God?
...and if we can't question them because what they preach is God's word, we can at least query the teachings using the same God's word...

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Re: The Act Of 'giving To God' As Explained By Pastor E. A. Adeboye by Nobody: 8:49am On Nov 21, 2012
i will answer this thieving, scammer from the scriptures:

1 Tim 6:5-9
5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.

6 But godliness with contentment is great gain.


7 For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out.

8 And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.


9 But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.

10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

11 But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.

YOU CANT HELP BUT WONDER WHY THE SO-CALLED FLOCKS DONT GO INTO THE SCRIPTURE AND READ ALL THE TRUTHS THERE-IN! angry angry


these pastorprenures will surely bring an end to Christianity! cry cry

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Re: The Act Of 'giving To God' As Explained By Pastor E. A. Adeboye by matrix789: 8:51am On Nov 21, 2012
i think it is high time the owner of this post moderates the topics.
Attacking Adeboye is just to show the level of frustration in Nigeria.
Did anybody force you to give?
look at the governors,the dangotes,otedolas milking the country of your own resources and employs graduates as drivers that is what you should focus your energy.
taking it out on an old man is not a fruitful one
Re: The Act Of 'giving To God' As Explained By Pastor E. A. Adeboye by naturalwaves: 8:54am On Nov 21, 2012
I personally lost my respect for that MOG the day he laid hands on Obasanjo to personally pray for him for election success few days to an election that was well known that it will be rigged. He has laid hands on several corrupt persons too all for fringe benefits. Or, will Obasanjo leave the church without dropping 10 million + for the church? Impossible! Adeboye is a Pastor that likes to seat on the fence, neither here nor there which is a bad thing. Of course, no corrupt Govt official will step into Bakare's church cos he won't even hesitate to change the topic just to correct them. A man that can even castigate his own wife in church for wrong doings and even top members of the church. Truth be told, Pastors are becoming too greedy for money nowadays. The aggressiveness with which the RCCG is using to build churches all boils down to the Objective function....money, money and more money. There are about 5 of them just about 20 minutes walk from where I stay.The funny thing is that, most of them are not standard.....poor choir, poor pastor(intellectually, might not be well prepared for sermon most times), poor everything. Is it not better to operate few churches well than to have a lot of them that cannot be properly managed? Only God knows and time will tell.

BTW, what does he mean by Open Heavens?
Re: The Act Of 'giving To God' As Explained By Pastor E. A. Adeboye by mrcali1: 8:57am On Nov 21, 2012
BOWEN UNIVERSITY N650,000 per semester,
COVENANT UNIVERSITY N640,000 per
semester, BENSON IDAHOSA N500,000 per
semester, BABCOCK UNIVERSITY N450,000 per
semester, REDEEMERS UNIVERSITY N450,000
per semester, AJAYI CROWTHER UNIVERSITY
N350,000 per semester, MADONNA
UNIVERSITY 350,000 per semester.



Are these fees per annum or per semester?
Re: The Act Of 'giving To God' As Explained By Pastor E. A. Adeboye by Sogo10: 9:04am On Nov 21, 2012
He is not a liar.if u go and read larry izamoje scoring life goals.u will find something like dat.where larry izamoje donated 10000naira from his pocket 2 d church,wen he was looking 4 sponsor 4 his sports programme.and God rewarded him wit sponspors 4rm cadbury and coca cola plc.am neither a christian nor a muslim,so dont think am defending him.he is saying d fact.
Re: The Act Of 'giving To God' As Explained By Pastor E. A. Adeboye by mbulela: 9:05am On Nov 21, 2012
I have enormous respect for this man but this part in bold cannot be biblical. This idea of God as a vending machine,where you put in an amount and get something specific is ungodly and ca never be right.The tendency to use God as a money doubler is worrying.

In addition, the various denominations of each currency are different measures too. Take for instance the Nigeria Naira, you have N1000, N500, N200, N100, N50, N20, N10 and N5 notes. It is the particular denomination that you use that God will multiply and return to you. If you keep using the smallest of the denominations and think you are thrifty or wise, you are only limiting yourself. Do yourself a favour by using the biggest denominations so as to get the greatest harvest.
Re: The Act Of 'giving To God' As Explained By Pastor E. A. Adeboye by PalmTree(m): 9:06am On Nov 21, 2012
matrix789: i think it is high time the owner of this post moderates the topics.
Attacking Adeboye is just to show the level of frustration in Nigeria.
Did anybody force you to give?
look at the governors,the dangotes,otedolas milking the country of your own resources and employs graduates as drivers that is what you should focus your energy.
taking it out on an old man is not a fruitful one

This is pathetic! How dare you compare Dangote and co to Religious leaders? When the world heats up and we feel like we are hanging mid-air, when life becomes so frustrating and we feel lost, is it not the church that should come to our rescue? The solace, the love, the fellowship that Jesus Christ promised us is what is expected of the church, but now most xtains run away from wolfs into the waiting hands of the dire wolfs.
But pls don't ever compare capitalists and clerics again because the latter is expected to be a role model to the former.

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Re: The Act Of 'giving To God' As Explained By Pastor E. A. Adeboye by nosagold(m): 9:10am On Nov 21, 2012
Hmmmmmmm.....make I close my mouth b4 I receive bashing from una
Re: The Act Of 'giving To God' As Explained By Pastor E. A. Adeboye by danikik7: 9:12am On Nov 21, 2012
This is a loud slap on christiandom
Re: The Act Of 'giving To God' As Explained By Pastor E. A. Adeboye by PalmTree(m): 9:18am On Nov 21, 2012
Sogo10: He is not a liar.if u go and read larry izamoje scoring life goals.u will find something like dat.where larry izamoje donated 10000naira from his pocket 2 d church,wen he was looking 4 sponsor 4 his sports programme.and God rewarded him wit sponspors 4rm cadbury and coca cola plc.am neither a christian nor a muslim,so dont think am defending him.he is saying d fact.

Lmao!!!
Let's go scriptural, somewhere in the book of malachi God promised to bless us if we bring our TITHES and OFFERINGS and I agree. But pastors are not contented with that so we should sow seeds again? If there is any on going project in the church, members should sow, if pastor wan buy jet, members should sow again? So what will the members eat. The scriptures also say that God loves a cheerful giver, I'm sure after the tithe and offering most members can't give cheerfully anymore.
You knw larry izamoje who donated 10k and got blessed? How are you sure that he got blessed because of the donation? Ok, I know bukky adekeye who also donated 20k because she wanted to fund her building project and got nothing! Explain.

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Re: The Act Of 'giving To God' As Explained By Pastor E. A. Adeboye by Nobody: 9:23am On Nov 21, 2012
PalmTree:

Lmao!!!
Let's go scriptural, somewhere in the book of malachi God promised to bless us if we bring our TITHES and OFFERINGS and I agree. But pastors are not contented with that so we should sow seeds again? If there is any on going project in the church, members should sow, if pastor wan buy jet, members should sow again? So what will the members eat. The scriptures also say that God loves a cheerful giver, I'm sure after the tithe and offering most members can't give cheerfully anymore.
You knw larry izamoje who donated 10k and got blessed? How are you sure that he got blessed because of the donation? Ok, I know bukky adekeye who also donated 20k because she wanted to fund her building project and got nothing! Explain.


grin grin grin grin. Una no dey disappoint.
Re: The Act Of 'giving To God' As Explained By Pastor E. A. Adeboye by Nobody: 9:27am On Nov 21, 2012
Giving is good no doubt but please give to those who need it. the less privileged are everywhere but we prefer to give to the pastor.As far as i know give with your heart even though u might never receive. The joy of giving is when u see others happy. Giving and expecting to receive is a waste of time.

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Re: The Act Of 'giving To God' As Explained By Pastor E. A. Adeboye by Maxymilliano(m): 9:30am On Nov 21, 2012
matrix789: i think it is high time the owner of this post moderates the topics.
Attacking Adeboye is just to show the level of frustration in Nigeria.
Did anybody force you to give?
look at the governors,the dangotes,otedolas milking the country of your own resources and employs graduates as drivers that is what you should focus your energy.
taking it out on an old man is not a fruitful one

The 'Open Heavens' where the post was lifted was written by Adeboye and not the governors, Dangote and Otedola, what else will you suggest the topic to be?

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Re: The Act Of 'giving To God' As Explained By Pastor E. A. Adeboye by golamike: 9:32am On Nov 21, 2012
I've gone through d article and never saw any place he stated that your money should be given to him. Sowing can be to God or to man. You don't have to sow into your pastor's life to be blessed. Helping the less-privileged around you is a great way to sow. People should stop thinking whenever a preacher preaches about giving he's directing d message to himself. Whether we like it or not, GIVING is one of the fundamental teachings in Christianity. Acts 4:32-35

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Re: The Act Of 'giving To God' As Explained By Pastor E. A. Adeboye by mcqt21: 9:33am On Nov 21, 2012
Al of u r jus ere blabin because u al r terible @giv(in...ny1 who gives esp in d house of God n wories of hw d moni is spent is som1 who's stingy 2 d core......wat pastor adeboye is sayin is nutin bt d truth...mst people r stil on desame level because de r stil givin 10 n 20naira in oferings..2 mov 2 d nxt level of blesin u hv 2 gv a litle biger n b4 u kn it u r used 2 it n u wil c Gods blesin...d truth is dat most people tink if de giv above wat de hv,,dia money wil get finisht...(QUESTION?) .hv u tried it b4 2 c if ur money actualy got finsiht..(ANS---NO)..ders no way u wil give higher n God wnt bles u even b4 u reach ur home...its al bout faith...
Re: The Act Of 'giving To God' As Explained By Pastor E. A. Adeboye by Iaz93: 9:36am On Nov 21, 2012
There would be great surprises on the last day! Hmm! Can't wait mehn! What kind of surprises? Hehe!
Re: The Act Of 'giving To God' As Explained By Pastor E. A. Adeboye by mko2005: 9:43am On Nov 21, 2012
These are kingdom messages.It will for sure be difficult to understand when you look at it carnally or trying to use the earthly wisdom.There are people who stay in church all their life or have a good relationship with God but scarcely receive financial blessings from God.
The kingdom is tied to principles and it takes the grace of God to identify those kingdom principles.Another grace to hear or be among men of God who teach this kingdom principles and a greater grace to adhere to those kingdom principles.
PST.Adeboye who has always maintained a biblical stands on issues all along has now tried to bring the word of God to the levels that even a lay man will understand and adhere to with the help of the power of the holy spirit and will have no reason to be tied down financially.

Hear instruction and be wise, and do not neglect it.-Proverbs 8:33.

For some of us here,we may see it as scam,some will see it as the word of God and will tap into it and you see them moving up the FINANCIAL LADDER while their SALVATION is still not threatened. -Luke 6:38''give, and it will be given to you. Good measure, pressed down, shaken together, running over, will be put into your lap. For with the measure you use it will be measured back to you'' He used this scripture in teaching financial upliftment.He has also used this scripture to teach love.In the area of finance,he is saying that what you give is what you get.
(1 Corinthians 9:11If we have sown spiritual seed among you, is it too much if we reap material benefits from you?)This was the exact saying of apostle paul to the corinthians regarding men of God receiving from the church members or people who listen to their messages.But i know ofcourse if pastors start to speak this way people might say they are being greedy and scamers.
But regarding whether it is proper to teach seed sowing so as to receive from God,let's see the following scriptures:

''The point is this: whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows bountifully will also reap bountifully.-2 Corinthians 9:6
''Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap.-Galatians 6:7
''In the morning sow your seed, and at evening withhold not your hand, for you do not know which will prosper, this or that, or whether both alike will be good-Ecclessiastes 11:6
''And Isaac sowed in that land and reaped in the same year a hundredfold. The Lord blessed him,Gen.26:12
''One gives freely, yet grows all the richer; another withholds what he should give, and only suffers want. Whoever brings blessing will be enriched, and one who waters will himself be watered.-Proverbs 11:24-25
''While the earth remains, seed time and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night, shall not cease.-Gen 8:22
''He who supplies seed to the sower and bread for food will supply and multiply your seed for sowing and increase the harvest of your righteousness.-2CORINTHIANS 9:10
''They sow fields and plant vineyards and get a fruitful yield.-Psalm 107:37
''Truly, truly, I say to you, unless a grain of wheat falls into the earth and dies, it remains alone; but if it dies, it bears much fruit. .-John 12:24
Well going by the above,i think there is nothing wrong bringing out all that matters in the holy scriptures regarding wealth building. Pst.Adeboye only came down for all to understand so as not to deprive anyone from receiving that which God has made available for his children.I have read about Pst Adeboye saying that if you are an unbeliever and tithe or sow seeds or even bring offerings unto God,you are wasting your time according to the scriptures.
Having said all these,i think there is absolutely nothing wrong teaching seed sowing in any way you like.Just give and you will receive.If you give SHEKELS,you will receive SHEKELS.If you give NAIRA you will receive NAIRA.If you give DOLLARS,u will receive DOLLARS.If you give EURO,you will receive EURO.If you give pounds,you will receive POUNDS.If you DON'T give,you WILL NOT receive.If you give and dnt believe you will receive,you will not receive.If you dnt give at all,you will not receive at all.
BUT NOTE;YOU CAN RECEIVE FROM DEVIL BUT YOU DNT HAVE TO GIVE TO GOD or MAN to receive from the devil.
God bless us.

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Re: The Act Of 'giving To God' As Explained By Pastor E. A. Adeboye by Nobody: 9:43am On Nov 21, 2012
so if i do not sow in the church GOD will not bless me?

does God need my money?
Re: The Act Of 'giving To God' As Explained By Pastor E. A. Adeboye by juman(m): 9:46am On Nov 21, 2012
Bacteriocin: If U̶̲̥̅̊ give jet, U̶̲̥̅̊ will buy airport.
Indeed there was a country!

This is funny. grin grin.

I agree with you, there was a country. Nigerians became "RELIGIOUS" during IBB time when he (IBB) destroyed the economy. I vividly remember. It was that economic problem that time that pushed people to "leaders of religions".
Re: The Act Of 'giving To God' As Explained By Pastor E. A. Adeboye by mko2005: 9:52am On Nov 21, 2012
PalmTree:

Lmao!!!
Let's go scriptural, somewhere in the book of malachi God promised to bless us if we bring our TITHES and OFFERINGS and I agree. But pastors are not contented with that so we should sow seeds again? If there is any on going project in the church, members should sow, if pastor wan buy jet, members should sow again? So what will the members eat. The scriptures also say that God loves a cheerful giver, I'm sure after the tithe and offering most members can't give cheerfully anymore.
You knw larry izamoje who donated 10k and got blessed? How are you sure that he got blessed because of the donation? Ok, I know bukky adekeye who also donated 20k because she wanted to fund her building project and got nothing! Explain.
These are kingdom messages.It will for sure be difficult to understand when you look at it carnally or trying to use the earthly wisdom.There are people who stay in church all their life or have a good relationship with God but scarcely receive financial blessings from God.
The kingdom is tied to principles and it takes the grace of God to identify those kingdom principles.Another grace to hear or be among men of God who teach this kingdom principles and a greater grace to adhere to those kingdom principles.
PST.Adeboye who has always maintained a biblical stands on issues all along has now tried to bring the word of God to the levels that even a lay man will understand and adhere to with the help of the power of the holy spirit and will have no reason to be tied down financially.

Hear instruction and be wise, and do not neglect it.-Proverbs 8:33.

For some of us here,we may see it as scam,some will see it as the word of God and will tap into it and you see them moving up the FINANCIAL LADDER while their SALVATION is still not threatened. -Luke 6:38''give, and it will be given to you. Good measure, pressed down, shaken together, running over, will be put into your lap. For with the measure you use it will be measured back to you'' He used this scripture in teaching financial upliftment.He has also used this scripture to teach love.In the area of finance,he is saying that what you give is what you get.
(1 Corinthians 9:11If we have sown spiritual seed among you, is it too much if we reap material benefits from you?)This was the exact saying of apostle paul to the corinthians regarding men of God receiving from the church members or people who listen to their messages.But i know ofcourse if pastors start to speak this way people might say they are being greedy and scamers.
But regarding whether it is proper to teach seed sowing so as to receive from God,let's see the following scriptures:

''The point is this: whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows bountifully will also reap bountifully.-2 Corinthians 9:6
''Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap.-Galatians 6:7
''In the morning sow your seed, and at evening withhold not your hand, for you do not know which will prosper, this or that, or whether both alike will be good-Ecclessiastes 11:6
''And Isaac sowed in that land and reaped in the same year a hundredfold. The Lord blessed him,Gen.26:12
''One gives freely, yet grows all the richer; another withholds what he should give, and only suffers want. Whoever brings blessing will be enriched, and one who waters will himself be watered.-Proverbs 11:24-25
''While the earth remains, seed time and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night, shall not cease.-Gen 8:22
''He who supplies seed to the sower and bread for food will supply and multiply your seed for sowing and increase the harvest of your righteousness.-2CORINTHIANS 9:10
''They sow fields and plant vineyards and get a fruitful yield.-Psalm 107:37
''Truly, truly, I say to you, unless a grain of wheat falls into the earth and dies, it remains alone; but if it dies, it bears much fruit. .-John 12:24
Well going by the above,i think there is nothing wrong bringing out all that matters in the holy scriptures regarding wealth building. Pst.Adeboye only came down for all to understand so as not to deprive anyone from receiving that which God has made available for his children.I have read about Pst Adeboye saying that if you are an unbeliever and tithe or sow seeds or even bring offerings unto God,you are wasting your time according to the scriptures.
Having said all these,i think there is absolutely nothing wrong teaching seed sowing in any way you like.Just give and you will receive.If you give SHEKELS,you will receive SHEKELS.If you give NAIRA you will receive NAIRA.If you give DOLLARS,u will receive DOLLARS.If you give EURO,you will receive EURO.If you give pounds,you will receive POUNDS.If you DON'T give,you WILL NOT receive.If you give and dnt believe you will receive,you will not receive.If you dnt give at all,you will not receive at all.
BUT NOTE;YOU CAN RECEIVE FROM DEVIL BUT YOU DNT HAVE TO GIVE TO GOD or MAN to receive from the devil.
God bless us.

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Re: The Act Of 'giving To God' As Explained By Pastor E. A. Adeboye by mko2005: 9:53am On Nov 21, 2012
Aqva: Giving is good no doubt but please give to those who need it. the less privileged are everywhere but we prefer to give to the pastor.As far as i know give with your heart even though u might never receive. The joy of giving is when u see others happy. Giving and expecting to receive is a waste of time.
When ever you give and dnt expect to receive from God,you can't receive anything.
Re: The Act Of 'giving To God' As Explained By Pastor E. A. Adeboye by chucky234(m): 9:54am On Nov 21, 2012
What do expect from a man who cruise round the world in a Bombardia jet while his congregation lavish in abject poverty,extorts the poor for his retirement.
Re: The Act Of 'giving To God' As Explained By Pastor E. A. Adeboye by spartanian(m): 9:54am On Nov 21, 2012
mr-cali:
BOWEN UNIVERSITY N650,000 per semester,
COVENANT UNIVERSITY N640,000 per
semester, BENSON IDAHOSA N500,000 per
semester, BABCOCK UNIVERSITY N450,000 per
semester, REDEEMERS UNIVERSITY N450,000
per semester, AJAYI CROWTHER UNIVERSITY
N350,000 per semester, MADONNA
UNIVERSITY 350,000 per semester.



Are these fees per annum or per semester?
its per annum (session) not per semester
Re: The Act Of 'giving To God' As Explained By Pastor E. A. Adeboye by Goldenheart(m): 9:55am On Nov 21, 2012
this is a manipulated version of the message... ahhhhhhhhhhhhh rara o. i cant believe it at all.
Re: The Act Of 'giving To God' As Explained By Pastor E. A. Adeboye by chucky234(m): 9:58am On Nov 21, 2012
m.k.o2005:
These are kingdom messages.It will for sure be difficult to understand when you look at it carnally or trying to use the earthly wisdom.There are people who stay in church all their life or have a good relationship with God but scarcely receive financial blessings from God.
The kingdom is tied to principles and it takes the grace of God to identify those kingdom principles.Another grace to hear or be among men of God who teach this kingdom principles and a greater grace to adhere to those kingdom principles.
PST.Adeboye who has always maintained a biblical stands on issues all along has now tried to bring the word of God to the levels that even a lay man will understand and adhere to with the help of the power of the holy spirit and will have no reason to be tied down financially.

Hear instruction and be wise, and do not neglect it.-Proverbs 8:33.

For some of us here,we may see it as scam,some will see it as the word of God and will tap into it and you see them moving up the FINANCIAL LADDER while their SALVATION is still not threatened. -Luke 6:38''give, and it will be given to you. Good measure, pressed down, shaken together, running over, will be put into your lap. For with the measure you use it will be measured back to you'' He used this scripture in teaching financial upliftment.He has also used this scripture to teach love.In the area of finance,he is saying that what you give is what you get.
(1 Corinthians 9:11If we have sown spiritual seed among you, is it too much if we reap material benefits from you?)This was the exact saying of apostle paul to the corinthians regarding men of God receiving from the church members or people who listen to their messages.But i know ofcourse if pastors start to speak this way people might say they are being greedy and scamers.
But regarding whether it is proper to teach seed sowing so as to receive from God,let's see the following scriptures:

''The point is this: whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows bountifully will also reap bountifully.-2 Corinthians 9:6
''Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap.-Galatians 6:7
''In the morning sow your seed, and at evening withhold not your hand, for you do not know which will prosper, this or that, or whether both alike will be good-Ecclessiastes 11:6
''And Isaac sowed in that land and reaped in the same year a hundredfold. The Lord blessed him,Gen.26:12
''One gives freely, yet grows all the richer; another withholds what he should give, and only suffers want. Whoever brings blessing will be enriched, and one who waters will himself be watered.-Proverbs 11:24-25
''While the earth remains, seed time and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night, shall not cease.-Gen 8:22
''He who supplies seed to the sower and bread for food will supply and multiply your seed for sowing and increase the harvest of your righteousness.-2CORINTHIANS 9:10
''They sow fields and plant vineyards and get a fruitful yield.-Psalm 107:37
''Truly, truly, I say to you, unless a grain of wheat falls into the earth and dies, it remains alone; but if it dies, it bears much fruit. .-John 12:24
Well going by the above,i think there is nothing wrong bringing out all that matters in the holy scriptures regarding wealth building. Pst.Adeboye only came down for all to understand so as not to deprive anyone from receiving that which God has made available for his children.I have read about Pst Adeboye saying that if you are an unbeliever and tithe or sow seeds or even bring offerings unto God,you are wasting your time according to the scriptures.
Having said all these,i think there is absolutely nothing wrong teaching seed sowing in any way you like.Just give and you will receive.If you give SHEKELS,you will receive SHEKELS.If you give NAIRA you will receive NAIRA.If you give DOLLARS,u will receive DOLLARS.If you give EURO,you will receive EURO.If you give pounds,you will receive POUNDS.If you DON'T give,you WILL NOT receive.If you give and dnt believe you will receive,you will not receive.If you dnt give at all,you will not receive at all.
BUT NOTE;YOU CAN RECEIVE FROM DEVIL BUT YOU DNT HAVE TO GIVE TO GOD or MAN to receive from the devil.
God bless us.
I am sure you are one of the ushers in RCCG,keep twisting the bible to suit your greed.
Re: The Act Of 'giving To God' As Explained By Pastor E. A. Adeboye by Autotrader1: 9:58am On Nov 21, 2012
I am not a regular contributor on Nairaland but am always amazed how people read things absolutely out of context. For those who don't know, open heavens is a daily devotional with 365 entries. I think it's a little irresponsible to take one entry out of that 365 and use that to pronounce judgement on this man. Secondly, the op convinently left out the bible passage and Key point of this devotional.

I see Nigerians always like to come accross as knowledgable but am always surprised to see that we can't read a simple piece and put it into context. I will expect a resonable person to first go back and read the full text of this piece, try to understand where the man is coming from, then disagree with him. Did it occur to any of you hauling insults at this man that he was talking about sowing and reaping and I did't see anywhere in the piece where it says you should sow to a church.

And one last question, is it just me...I noticed that negative news/post about christianity makes it very fast to the frontpage on Nairaland?

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Re: The Act Of 'giving To God' As Explained By Pastor E. A. Adeboye by kosalabaro: 10:04am On Nov 21, 2012
But didn't Ibori sow in billions and billions and where is he today?
In PRISON ofcourse where he rightfully belongs!
The same goes for Akingbola, Cecilia Ibru and the Ihejiahis.........

Learning point in all of this: No one can bribe God!
Re: The Act Of 'giving To God' As Explained By Pastor E. A. Adeboye by mko2005: 10:05am On Nov 21, 2012
greateros: i will answer this thieving, scammer from the scriptures:

1 Tim 6:5-9
5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.

6 But godliness with contentment is great gain.


7 For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out.

8 And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.


9 But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.

10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

11 But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.

YOU CANT HELP BUT WONDER WHY THE SO-CALLED FLOCKS DONT GO INTO THE SCRIPTURE AND READ ALL THE TRUTHS THERE-IN! angry angry


these pastorprenures will surely bring an end to Christianity! cry cry



These are kingdom messages.It will for sure be difficult to understand when you look at it carnally or trying to use the earthly wisdom.There are people who stay in church all their life or have a good relationship with God but scarcely receive financial blessings from God.
The kingdom is tied to principles and it takes the grace of God to identify those kingdom principles.Another grace to hear or be among men of God who teach this kingdom principles and a greater grace to adhere to those kingdom principles.
PST.Adeboye who has always maintained a biblical stands on issues all along has now tried to bring the word of God to the levels that even a lay man will understand and adhere to with the help of the power of the holy spirit and will have no reason to be tied down financially.

Hear instruction and be wise, and do not neglect it.-Proverbs 8:33.

For some of us here,we may see it as scam,some will see it as the word of God and will tap into it and you see them moving up the FINANCIAL LADDER while their SALVATION is still not threatened. -Luke 6:38''give, and it will be given to you. Good measure, pressed down, shaken together, running over, will be put into your lap. For with the measure you use it will be measured back to you'' He used this scripture in teaching financial upliftment.He has also used this scripture to teach love.In the area of finance,he is saying that what you give is what you get.
(1 Corinthians 9:11If we have sown spiritual seed among you, is it too much if we reap material benefits from you?)This was the exact saying of apostle paul to the corinthians regarding men of God receiving from the church members or people who listen to their messages.But i know ofcourse if pastors start to speak this way people might say they are being greedy and scamers.
But regarding whether it is proper to teach seed sowing so as to receive from God,let's see the following scriptures:

''The point is this: whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows bountifully will also reap bountifully.-2 Corinthians 9:6
''Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap.-Galatians 6:7
''In the morning sow your seed, and at evening withhold not your hand, for you do not know which will prosper, this or that, or whether both alike will be good-Ecclessiastes 11:6
''And Isaac sowed in that land and reaped in the same year a hundredfold. The Lord blessed him,Gen.26:12
''One gives freely, yet grows all the richer; another withholds what he should give, and only suffers want. Whoever brings blessing will be enriched, and one who waters will himself be watered.-Proverbs 11:24-25
''While the earth remains, seed time and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night, shall not cease.-Gen 8:22
''He who supplies seed to the sower and bread for food will supply and multiply your seed for sowing and increase the harvest of your righteousness.-2CORINTHIANS 9:10
''They sow fields and plant vineyards and get a fruitful yield.-Psalm 107:37
''Truly, truly, I say to you, unless a grain of wheat falls into the earth and dies, it remains alone; but if it dies, it bears much fruit. .-John 12:24
Well going by the above,i think there is nothing wrong bringing out all that matters in the holy scriptures regarding wealth building. Pst.Adeboye only came down for all to understand so as not to deprive anyone from receiving that which God has made available for his children.I have read about Pst Adeboye saying that if you are an unbeliever and tithe or sow seeds or even bring offerings unto God,you are wasting your time according to the scriptures.
Having said all these,i think there is absolutely nothing wrong teaching seed sowing in any way you like.Just give and you will receive.If you give SHEKELS,you will receive SHEKELS.If you give NAIRA you will receive NAIRA.If you give DOLLARS,u will receive DOLLARS.If you give EURO,you will receive EURO.If you give pounds,you will receive POUNDS.If you DON'T give,you WILL NOT receive.If you give and dnt believe you will receive,you will not receive.If you dnt give at all,you will not receive at all.
BUT NOTE;YOU CAN RECEIVE FROM DEVIL BUT YOU DNT HAVE TO GIVE TO GOD or MAN to receive from the devil.
God bless us.
Re: The Act Of 'giving To God' As Explained By Pastor E. A. Adeboye by Nobody: 10:16am On Nov 21, 2012
greateros:
6 But godliness with contentment is great gain.


7 For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out.

8 And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.


Preach on....It is the contentment that they do not have,and the opposite of contentment is avarice,greed,and it is that greed that will eventually destroy them
Re: The Act Of 'giving To God' As Explained By Pastor E. A. Adeboye by dammybambo: 10:18am On Nov 21, 2012
"My people perish for lack of knowlege..." "Anyone who has ears let him hear what the Spirit is saying to the churches..."

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