Maxymilliano: To the posters calling some of us ignorant for reading the post with carnal minds, how do you guys feel each time the church is mentioned in corruption cases? May be the import of this type of message is yet to be dawn on you, 2 churches in Delta State was mentioned recently by EFCC to be beneficiaries of corrupt tendencies and financial malpractices perpetrated by the former MD of Bank PHB.

Another church in Oregun area of Lagos sometimes ago play host to officials of NDLEA when an arrested drug trafficker claimed to have sowed millions of naira to the church. This two scenarios will continue to be witnessed in the Christendom if this type of message by Adeboye is allowed to go unchallenged.

oloto: Please, let's be careful about the way we abuse d men of God. If you don't like their message, free them. Its is better for us not to judge that we ourselves might not be judged. Remember, His word says that we shouldn't touch His annointed. Moreover, if pastors preach God's word for their personal gain, it is still Gods word. Not your own. So, let Him deal with them himself.

larrymoore: @oloto no! If they err, we can fold our hands n watch them corrupt our comin generation of pastors that d scripture is al abnut prosperity. We need to hear more on salvation-inculcate d fear of God. Even when someone steals in d bank he want to pay tithe out of it. God is never hungry bt cn get angry over our insubordination.

Maxymilliano: To the posters calling some of us ignorant for reading the post with carnal minds, how do you guys feel each time the church is mentioned in corruption cases? May be the import of this type of message is yet to be dawn on you, 2 churches in Delta State was mentioned recently by EFCC to be beneficiaries of corrupt tendencies and financial malpractices perpetrated by the former MD of Bank PHB.

Another church in Oregun area of Lagos sometimes ago play host to officials of NDLEA when an arrested drug trafficker claimed to have sowed part of the proceeds he made from drug trafficking to the church. This two scenarios will continue to be witnessed in the Christendom if this type of message by Adeboye is allowed to go unchallenged.

PortHarcourtBoy: In China, warehouses are used for manufacturing.......

In Naija, warehouses are used as churches.......

m.k.o2005:

Yes it is good to advance the kingdom of God !

jp philips:

Give to God and Adeboye buys jet, who is fooling who?? Adeboye, are you God's account officer??

Show me a proof that only the Pastor should be the sole custodian of God's money from the bible. You pastors have really abused that privilege

superfour:


If you thing that Money using to buy Jet or build Universities is from the church money you have missed it. The money coming in through the Books that all this Man of

God are writting is millions of diffrent currency. If they desided to bucket all this they are Billonier already. But most of the time they reinvested some of this money

back to the ministries. Even OPEN HEAVEN where He talked about this GIVEN is bringing Billion yearly. If there more then JET they can used it, they are working hard for

it. Stop talking any how to all the MEN of GOD.

superfour:


If you thing that Money using to buy Jet or build Universities is from the church money you have missed it. The money coming in through the Books that all this Man of

God are writting is millions of diffrent currency. If they desided to bucket all this they are Billonier already. But most of the time they reinvested some of this money

back to the ministries. Even OPEN HEAVEN where He talked about this GIVEN is bringing Billion yearly. If there more then JET they can used it, they are working hard for

it. Stop talking any how to all the MEN of GOD.

rusher14:
Yes so the church might be rich but the congregation poverty stricken.

A-ZeD:


All this don't talk anyhow about men of God... Can someone please tell me who a man of God is? Is it one who does the will of God or one who gives himself a title(Rev, Pastor)?

onobi7:

Your ignorance is immense, 1000 messages and this big gaff! Go and read your Bible and stop displaying your ignorance. Was the US dollars in existence when Jesus spoke those words? The US dollars is what it is because of the hard work of its citizens over the years. Today, it has become a more viable "seed". Ignoramus!

m.k.o2005:


A man of God is like a Shepherd who tends the flocks.He or she dedicates time just to hear from God and pleases God as well.Having heard from God,he also act as a teacher or preacher of the word.
''So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers, 12 to equip his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up 13 until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ. Ephesians 4:11-13
So it is not wrong to call one a pastor.A 'PASTOR' does the will of God and does not live in sin.But can stil mistakenly fall into sin becos he is human but does not live in sin !
PLS DNT ABUSE OR CURSE THEM NO MATTER WHAT ! I am not a pastor but if you curse or abuse me,u will face the wrath of God unless you ask for forgiveness and repent !

Pastor Kun: With thrash like this that Adeboye regularly teaches, it still beats my imagination why majority of his church members don't see him as the charlatan he his. This is what I would term 'abuse of scriptures'

rusher14:
Same prayer i wish for you.
So it is his interpretation of the Bible not what is most times clearly written e.g Deuteronomy 14 vs 22-29 that matters.
Continue!!

Bidam: Stop quoting dat scripture out of context..if i remember clearly wat d OP quoted Adeboye sayin..it was sowing seed and not tithing which is a diffrent matter entirely...moreso tithing has been misintepreted by so many of u folks dat...it will be useless to argue with u.

m.k.o2005:
What happens when we get to heaven and find the men of God we hate and abuse there even willing to welcome us just like Jesus will do to some of us here ?
The main point should be working out your own salvation !
If you must contribute to a thread,don't curse people please.
There are agents of satan here on this site,do not allow them draw you to their father the devil.
For the un-repentant on this site,pls accept Jesus today and seek the presence of the holy spirit in ur life.
STOP CURSING AND USING ABUSIVE WORDS !
None of us here can help God.
Mind you with all the hate words used and stil ongoing against the Roman Catholic Church from centuries back till date regarding how they worship mary and the use of non biblical doctrines and others,did it make any change ?That is how it is .It's only God that can change things expecially spiritual things.
Be careful friends !

jp philips:


shut up!!!

Adeboye has defined his seed, don't force words into his mouth. his seed is nothing but money, little wonder he cared less about volunteers who used their energy to build his university.

m.k.o2005:

I DNT UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU MEAN BY POVERTY STRICKEN !
I attend these churches of God and i see people there both the regenerated and non regenerated most come in flashy cars still we call them poverty stricken ! Well,no one is saying owning a car or other properties will take one to heaven.But what i know and believe is that it is still very posible to be rich and still make heaven and if i fall or grow in love with my wealth or riches,then am doomed here on earth and in the life after.
Stop hating what is genuine.Just ask God to help u understand spiritual things !

A-ZeD:

Going by your explanation, then you should not call our politicians greedy afterall you don't know if they are called by "God".

m.k.o2005:


A man of God is like a Shepherd who tends the flocks.He or she dedicates time just to hear from God and pleases God as well.Having heard from God,he also act as a teacher or preacher of the word.
''So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers, 12 to equip his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up 13 until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ. Ephesians 4:11-13
So it is not wrong to call one a pastor.A 'PASTOR' does the will of God and does not live in sin.But can stil mistakenly fall into sin becos he is human but does not live in sin !
PLS DNT ABUSE OR CURSE THEM NO MATTER WHAT ! I am not a pastor but if you curse or abuse me,u will face the wrath of God unless you ask for forgiveness and repent !

o9999: We are CHRISTians which means CHRIST LIKE,

Put in this contest, what would CHRIST HAVE DONE?
I tought that Christ preached that we should give to those who have no capacity to give back and given with a good mind (not expecting repayment)? if i am already sowing seed in anticipation for something else, does it still follow this principle?

Christ had it all, BUT POSSESSED NOTHING!!!!!!!
let us remember that in alll our lives, doings, thinking etc.

For those of us that always stick to - talk not about men of God, Let God judge them himselve, THey are God's annoited so you should live them alone etc.
IS that WHOLELY what the bible and CHRIST tought us Was David not God's annointed? yet he was judged, caution etc by a man, The disciples /apostles in the new testament, did we not record of corrections / admonitions they received? or is it recorded that they waited for judgement day for God?

Forget not that the person may just not know what he/she is doing, but your word of correction MAY (i repeat, may) just help save/correct the person.

Finally, i pray tell, whose words do you hang on to? WORD of GOD or Word of MEN of GOD
For he said, before you were born, i knew you by name, i know the number of hair on your body.

If he (GOD) can look after the wild animals, plants etc, He will give u WHAT U NEED!!

Remember the guy that was born blind? when the apostles asked - whose sin it was, Jesus replied, nobody, it s for the will/ power of God to be shown.
Now if that man was of this generation, he will be made to feel he hasnt given God enough, thats why his blindness is not cured. Is that christianity?

PalmTree:

What if the reverse is the case