rusher14:
That can only happen if they are indeed MOGs. I have serious doubts about that.

m.k.o2005:

Then we will thank God that we all made it atlast.

m.k.o2005:

We don't know yet ! God knows.They did not come themselves men of the people BUT OF GOD ! Let God be the judge !

o9999: We are CHRISTians which means CHRIST LIKE,

Put in this contest, what would CHRIST HAVE DONE?
I tought that Christ preached that we should give to those who have no capacity to give back and given with a good mind (not expecting repayment)? if i am already sowing seed in anticipation for something else, does it still follow this principle?

Christ had it all, BUT POSSESSED NOTHING!!!!!!!
let us remember that in alll our lives, doings, thinking etc.

For those of us that always stick to - talk not about men of God, Let God judge them himselve, THey are God's annoited so you should live them alone etc.
IS that WHOLELY what the bible and CHRIST tought us Was David not God's annointed? yet he was judged, caution etc by a man, The disciples /apostles in the new testament, did we not record of corrections / admonitions they received? or is it recorded that they waited for judgement day for God?

Forget not that the person may just not know what he/she is doing, but your word of correction MAY (i repeat, may) just help save/correct the person.

Finally, i pray tell, whose words do you hang on to? WORD of GOD or Word of MEN of GOD
For he said, before you were born, i knew you by name, i know the number of hair on your body.

If he (GOD) can look after the wild animals, plants etc, He will give u WHAT U NEED!!

Remember the guy that was born blind? when the apostles asked - whose sin it was, Jesus replied, nobody, it s for the will/ power of God to be shown.
Now if that man was of this generation, he will be made to feel he hasnt given God enough, thats why his blindness is not cured. Is that christianity?

PalmTree:

What if HE expressed disappointment in us for being so gullible that we were constantly falling for con men despite all the teachings that was available in the bible? You wouldn't want GOD to be disappointed now, would you?

rusher14:
Yes, if you are in Lagos, PH or Abuja. Look at the crowd in agenebode, oturkpo, or even damaturu.
How is Jesu oyingbo, rev dr. King and sign fireman different from these MOG's.

m.k.o2005:

Reason is becos he will always tell you dat if you are not born again and contribute to the work of God,you do that in vain,for nothing. He does not encourage even liars to give.

Maxymilliano:

Bros, hard as o try to reason with you on what you quoted above, does the church reject whatever money sowed into its kitty? Pastor Adeboye can say anything but is the church scrutinizing and turning down money from such illicit sources or is it not the same money they go ahead to re-invest and tell us God is good?

Maxymilliano:

Bros, hard as o try to reason with you on what you quoted above, does the church reject whatever money sowed into its kitty? Pastor Adeboye can say anything but is the church scrutinizing and turning down money from such illicit sources or is it not the same money they go ahead to re-invest and tell us God is good?

Autotrader1: I am not a regular contributor on Nairaland but am always amazed how people read things absolutely out of context. For those who don't know, open heavens is a daily devotional with 365 entries. I think it's a little irresponsible to take one entry out of that 365 and use that to pronounce judgement on this man. Secondly, the op convinently left out the bible passage and Key point of this devotional.

I see Nigerians always like to come accross as knowledgable but am always surprised to see that we can't read a simple piece and put it into context. I will expect a resonable person to first go back and read the full text of this piece, try to understand where the man is coming from, then disagree with him. Did it occur to any of you hauling insults at this man that he was talking about sowing and reaping and I did't see anywhere in the piece where it says you should sow to a church.

And one last question, is it just me...I noticed that negative news/post about christianity makes it very fast to the frontpage on Nairaland?

dabriggs:

Hardly had I spoken. The part the poster posted was clear enough.
There are no hidden interpretations. The message was clear and direct.
However I don't intend to spoil anyones fantasy and bring crashing down, their belief in role models and super heroes. I once believed in Superman too but outgrew it when I became older and wiser.

superfour:


If you thing that Money using to buy Jet or build Universities is from the church money you have missed it. The money coming in through the Books that all this Man of

God are writting is millions of diffrent currency. If they desided to bucket all this they are Billonier already. But most of the time they reinvested some of this money

back to the ministries. Even OPEN HEAVEN where He talked about this GIVEN is bringing Billion yearly. If there more then JET they can used it, they are working hard for

it. Stop talking any how to all the MEN of GOD.

rusher14:
Ok. Please tell me how God judges. Is it with pestilence or through man (jail sentence, say) or at the gates of heaven or hell when we all are no more?

superfour:


If you thing that Money using to buy Jet or build Universities is from the church money you have missed it. The money coming in through the Books that all this Man of

God are writting is millions of diffrent currency. If they desided to bucket all this they are Billonier already. But most of the time they reinvested some of this money

back to the ministries. Even OPEN HEAVEN where He talked about this GIVEN is bringing Billion yearly. If there more then JET they can used it, they are working hard for

it. Stop talking any how to all the MEN of GOD.

Bidam: Depends on how u see this message...God message is multifaceted and multi-dimensional. Adeboye may be talking abt naira and dollars as seeds but seeds can be ur time, energy and resources u put in a particular venture d quality of ur time determines d quality of ur harvest..in spiritual realm jus lyk d earthly realm currency is d rule of d game and wen i mean currency it is just not only money but consistency,persistency and perseverance in ur goals and pursuit for a better future and destiny. Peace.

duni04:
I really don't understand why anyone would stand up in defence of these 'Pastors'. Does it surprise you that the same person preaching this kind of message about sowing in dollars is also the same person cruising in a Gulf stream Private jet? These pastors are using the name of the church and the name of God to coax people into surrendering their hard earned money. The definition of Fraud is collecting money under false pretence.

m.k.o2005:

No ! I dnt see any false pretence regarding collecting money here !All i see is a pastor telling us how it is SCRIPTURALLY using the things we can see,feel and understand to bring out the word on the surface ! By the special grace of God,i am a bible student ! Not unto the letter but the spirit behind the spoken word ! I hav disagreed with the man of God on one occasion but that does not made me to stop listening to him. He can't be a perfect bein neither am i one.And even the ground i disagreed with him was becos i am yet to see that particular stand where it is written in the bible.Who knows he might even be right on that one !
The only time i will say to a man of God that he is wrong is when i dnt find his actions in the holy bible as supported by the new covenant !

May God help us and bless us all !

m.k.o2005:

No ! I dnt see any false pretence regarding collecting money here !All i see is a pastor telling us how it is SCRIPTURALLY using the things we can see,feel and understand to bring out the word on the surface ! By the special grace of God,i am a bible student ! Not unto the letter but the spirit behind the spoken word ! I hav disagreed with the man of God on one occasion but that does not made me to stop listening to him. He can't be a perfect bein neither am i one.And even the ground i disagreed with him was becos i am yet to see that particular stand where it is written in the bible.Who knows he might even be right on that one !
The only time i will say to a man of God that he is wrong is when i dnt find his actions in the holy bible as supported by the new covenant !

May God help us and bless us all !

ehie: i WONDER WHAT John the Baptist would have called your Daddy,or wasnt John the Baptist a man of God,eating locusts and honey,living in the desert,Jesus had no assest that i know of,no horse,no house,no silk robes,what he had he made sure his discples and the crowd following him ate,if he ate bread,they ate bread.

luluosas:
Agreed but, Pastor Adeboye pointed it out in blue and white (Naira and Dollars).

ziondaughter: if u dont know how to give or sow that ur bizness. Keep using ur tongue to lash men of GOD remember wat happened to Aaron & Miriam. Generally Nigerians do not know how to give. I thank God that all the tithes n offerings are used to for developments n we are seeing them. Adeboye n other men of God, u are doing a good work. Keep soaring cos we are on ur wings too. God bless u

Ben Global: Beta b carefull d way u talk abt men of God,so among all he wrote from jenuary till date dis is d only one u can pick to update?....God hv mercy on u

rusher14:
So your defence is that though he wrote it he always used to write the truth before.

Bidam: Jesus was made poor so that tru His poverty we might be rich..He said i wish above all things dat thou mayest prosper and be in health even as your soul prospers.(3 john2).

Pastor Kun:

Even before the open heavens 'devotional' as always contained a lot of heretic thrash. The twisted write up on '100 fold return' written on March 17 2010 easily comes to mind where he claimed to be an high priest and any money given to him would attract a hundred fold return from God.