Autotrader1: I am not a regular contributor on Nairaland but am always amazed how people read things absolutely out of context. For those who don't know, open heavens is a daily devotional with 365 entries. I think it's a little irresponsible to take one entry out of that 365 and use that to pronounce judgement on this man. Secondly, the op convinently left out the bible passage and Key point of this devotional.

I see Nigerians always like to come accross as knowledgable but am always surprised to see that we can't read a simple piece and put it into context. I will expect a resonable person to first go back and read the full text of this piece, try to understand where the man is coming from, then disagree with him. Did it occur to any of you hauling insults at this man that he was talking about sowing and reaping and I did't see anywhere in the piece where it says you should sow to a church.

And one last question, is it just me...I noticed that negative news/post about christianity makes it very fast to the frontpage on Nairaland?

These are kingdom messages.It will for sure be difficult to understand when you look at it carnally or trying to use the earthly wisdom.There are people who stay in church all their life or have a good relationship with God but scarcely receive financial blessings from God.
The kingdom is tied to principles and it takes the grace of God to identify those kingdom principles.Another grace to hear or be among men of God who teach this kingdom principles and a greater grace to adhere to those kingdom principles.
PST.Adeboye who has always maintained a biblical stands on issues all along has now tried to bring the word of God to the levels that even a lay man will understand and adhere to with the help of the power of the holy spirit and will have no reason to be tied down financially.

Hear instruction and be wise, and do not neglect it.-Proverbs 8:33.

For some of us here,we may see it as scam,some will see it as the word of God and will tap into it and you see them moving up the FINANCIAL LADDER while their SALVATION is still not threatened. -Luke 6:38''give, and it will be given to you. Good measure, pressed down, shaken together, running over, will be put into your lap. For with the measure you use it will be measured back to you'' He used this scripture in teaching financial upliftment.He has also used this scripture to teach love.In the area of finance,he is saying that what you give is what you get.
(1 Corinthians 9:11If we have sown spiritual seed among you, is it too much if we reap material benefits from you?)This was the exact saying of apostle paul to the corinthians regarding men of God receiving from the church members or people who listen to their messages.But i know ofcourse if pastors start to speak this way people might say they are being greedy and scamers.
But regarding whether it is proper to teach seed sowing so as to receive from God,let's see the following scriptures:

''The point is this: whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows bountifully will also reap bountifully.-2 Corinthians 9:6
''Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap.-Galatians 6:7
''In the morning sow your seed, and at evening withhold not your hand, for you do not know which will prosper, this or that, or whether both alike will be good-Ecclessiastes 11:6
''And Isaac sowed in that land and reaped in the same year a hundredfold. The Lord blessed him,Gen.26:12
''One gives freely, yet grows all the richer; another withholds what he should give, and only suffers want. Whoever brings blessing will be enriched, and one who waters will himself be watered.-Proverbs 11:24-25
''While the earth remains, seed time and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night, shall not cease.-Gen 8:22
''He who supplies seed to the sower and bread for food will supply and multiply your seed for sowing and increase the harvest of your righteousness.-2CORINTHIANS 9:10
''They sow fields and plant vineyards and get a fruitful yield.-Psalm 107:37
''Truly, truly, I say to you, unless a grain of wheat falls into the earth and dies, it remains alone; but if it dies, it bears much fruit. .-John 12:24
Well going by the above,i think there is nothing wrong bringing out all that matters in the holy scriptures regarding wealth building. Pst.Adeboye only came down for all to understand so as not to deprive anyone from receiving that which God has made available for his children.I have read about Pst Adeboye saying that if you are an unbeliever and tithe or sow seeds or even bring offerings unto God,you are wasting your time according to the scriptures.
Having said all these,i think there is absolutely nothing wrong teaching seed sowing in any way you like.Just give and you will receive.If you give SHEKELS,you will receive SHEKELS.If you give NAIRA you will receive NAIRA.If you give DOLLARS,u will receive DOLLARS.If you give EURO,you will receive EURO.If you give pounds,you will receive POUNDS.If you DON'T give,you WILL NOT receive.If you give and dnt believe you will receive,you will not receive.If you dnt give at all,you will not receive at all.
BUT NOTE;YOU CAN RECEIVE FROM DEVIL BUT YOU DNT HAVE TO GIVE TO GOD or MAN to receive from the devil.
God bless us.

A danfo bus ------------------------> a moto park
a filling station --------------------> a refinery
A barrel of crude oil------------------>a well head
an oil feild--------------------------> EXXON MOBIL or TOTALfina ELF or SHELL or NNPC
a ship--------------------------------?------------------------NPA?
a train---------------------------------?
a house---------------------------------> an estate
an estate------------------------------>a township
Lagos state----------------------------->?
a shirt ------------------------------->a boutique
a hummer jeep--------------------------?
a camry-------------------------------->bugatti
Nigeria--------------------------------> africa ---no Tha whole world

keep sowing bros

And out of all 365 messages in the Open heaven which has been published for over ten years, only one makes it to nairaland and majority of you lambast this man on this one message; not the one of yesterday neither the one of last month nor the one three years ago. If you guys are really itching for the truth go to the bible and see if what our humble Adeboye preaches is contrary to it.

salafiyy: hmmm...systematic way of getting people to pay for a jumbo plane...anyway i'm proud to be a MUSLIM

muslim indeed, Go ask ur iman or wat eva u call dem, hw much dey give 2 boko haram every month. Muslim rubbish

God don turn money-doubler? Wonderful! Who read Chike and the River??

matrix789: i think it is high time the owner of this post moderates the topics.
Attacking Adeboye is just to show the level of frustration in Nigeria.
Did anybody force you to give?
look at the governors,the dangotes,otedolas milking the country of your own resources and employs graduates as drivers that is what you should focus your energy.
taking it out on an old man is not a fruitful one

So it's best to justify the acts of charlatans with dubious businessmen?
You do also realise that they contribute in their own little ways to the minuscule GDP of this failure of a nation?
I fear the problem with Nigerians nay the black race is the reluctance to think and a lack of contentment.
We as a people can do better than this but we need to conciously make an effort to escape this quagmire.
The way is to educate ourselves, the Bible is a template but there are many manuals for success: books on computer programming, flower decoration, medicine and the likes.
A re-education and knowing that the Lord is kinder than your earthly father and he would never ask you to give Him before providing for you.
He would expect charity from you cause there are less fortunate people than you (see Deuteronomy 14 vs 22-29) that is the tithe not something you pay as tax to an individual who in turn makes you pay premium charges for facilities you provided money to contrive.
Nigerians wake up. THINK.
Devotees of other religions prosper as well and the reason is simple; they work hard and so succes is guaranteed. What cannnot be guaranteed is the measure of success. Here I preach prosperity to be good health and contentment.
THINK MY PEOPLE!!!

Autotrader1: I am not a regular contributor on Nairaland but am always amazed how people read things absolutely out of context. For those who don't know, open heavens is a daily devotional with 365 entries. I think it's a little irresponsible to take one entry out of that 365 and use that to pronounce judgement on this man. Secondly, the op convinently left out the bible passage and Key point of this devotional.

I see Nigerians always like to come accross as knowledgable but am always surprised to see that we can't read a simple piece and put it into context. I will expect a resonable person to first go back and read the full text of this piece, try to understand where the man is coming from, then disagree with him. Did it occur to any of you hauling insults at this man that he was talking about sowing and reaping and I did't see anywhere in the piece where it says you should sow to a church.

And one last question, is it just me...I noticed that negative news/post about christianity makes it very fast to the frontpage on Nairaland?

I have noticed that as well.And the devil is happy.But no reason to fight. Becos the word of God isn't ours but God.He will change them for good.

jimino: muslim indeed, Go ask ur iman or wat eva u call dem, hw much dey give 2 boko haram every month. Muslim rubbish

As a Christian I think this issue is more important than you contributing to derail the thread. Please stick to the issue rather than digress.

rusher14:
So it's best to justify the acts of charlatans wit dubious businessmen?
You do also realize that they contribute in their own little ways to the minuscule GDP of this failure of a nation?
I fear the problem with Nigerians nay the black race is the reluctance to think and a lack of contentment.
We as a people can do better than this but we need to conciously make an effort to escape this quagmire.
The way is to educate ourselves, the Bible is a template but there are many manuals for success: books on computer programming, flower decoration, medicine and the likes.
A re-education and knowing that the Lord is kinder than your earthly father and he would never ask you to give Him before providing for you.
He would expect charity from you cause there are less fortunate people than you (see Deuteronomy 14 vs 22-29) that is the tithe not something you pay as tax to an individual who in turn tells makes you pay premium charges for facilities you provided money to contrive.
Nigerians wake up. THINK.
Devotees of other religions prosper as well and the reason is simple; they work hard and so succes is guaranteed. What cannnot be guaranteed is the measure of success. Here I preach prosperity to be good health and contentment.
THINK MY PEOPLE!!!

These are kingdom messages.It will for sure be difficult to understand when you look at it carnally or trying to use the earthly wisdom.There are people who stay in church all their life or have a good relationship with God but scarcely receive financial blessings from God.
The kingdom is tied to principles and it takes the grace of God to identify those kingdom principles.Another grace to hear or be among men of God who teach this kingdom principles and a greater grace to adhere to those kingdom principles.
PST.Adeboye who has always maintained a biblical stands on issues all along has now tried to bring the word of God to the levels that even a lay man will understand and adhere to with the help of the power of the holy spirit and will have no reason to be tied down financially.

Hear instruction and be wise, and do not neglect it.-Proverbs 8:33.

For some of us here,we may see it as scam,some will see it as the word of God and will tap into it and you see them moving up the FINANCIAL LADDER while their SALVATION is still not threatened. -Luke 6:38''give, and it will be given to you. Good measure, pressed down, shaken together, running over, will be put into your lap. For with the measure you use it will be measured back to you'' He used this scripture in teaching financial upliftment.He has also used this scripture to teach love.In the area of finance,he is saying that what you give is what you get.
(1 Corinthians 9:11If we have sown spiritual seed among you, is it too much if we reap material benefits from you?)This was the exact saying of apostle paul to the corinthians regarding men of God receiving from the church members or people who listen to their messages.But i know ofcourse if pastors start to speak this way people might say they are being greedy and scamers.
But regarding whether it is proper to teach seed sowing so as to receive from God,let's see the following scriptures:

''The point is this: whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows bountifully will also reap bountifully.-2 Corinthians 9:6
''Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap.-Galatians 6:7
''In the morning sow your seed, and at evening withhold not your hand, for you do not know which will prosper, this or that, or whether both alike will be good-Ecclessiastes 11:6
''And Isaac sowed in that land and reaped in the same year a hundredfold. The Lord blessed him,Gen.26:12
''One gives freely, yet grows all the richer; another withholds what he should give, and only suffers want. Whoever brings blessing will be enriched, and one who waters will himself be watered.-Proverbs 11:24-25
''While the earth remains, seed time and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night, shall not cease.-Gen 8:22
''He who supplies seed to the sower and bread for food will supply and multiply your seed for sowing and increase the harvest of your righteousness.-2CORINTHIANS 9:10
''They sow fields and plant vineyards and get a fruitful yield.-Psalm 107:37
''Truly, truly, I say to you, unless a grain of wheat falls into the earth and dies, it remains alone; but if it dies, it bears much fruit. .-John 12:24
Well going by the above,i think there is nothing wrong bringing out all that matters in the holy scriptures regarding wealth building. Pst.Adeboye only came down for all to understand so as not to deprive anyone from receiving that which God has made available for his children.I have read about Pst Adeboye saying that if you are an unbeliever and tithe or sow seeds or even bring offerings unto God,you are wasting your time according to the scriptures.
Having said all these,i think there is absolutely nothing wrong teaching seed sowing in any way you like.Just give and you will receive.If you give SHEKELS,you will receive SHEKELS.If you give NAIRA you will receive NAIRA.If you give DOLLARS,u will receive DOLLARS.If you give EURO,you will receive EURO.If you give pounds,you will receive POUNDS.If you DON'T give,you WILL NOT receive.If you give and dnt believe you will receive,you will not receive.If you dnt give at all,you will not receive at all.
BUT NOTE;YOU CAN RECEIVE FROM DEVIL BUT YOU DNT HAVE TO GIVE TO GOD or MAN to receive from the devil.
God bless us.

m.k.o2005:

I have noticed that as well.And the devil is happy.But no reason to fight. Becos the word of God isn't ours but God.He will change them for good.

You may feel disheartened but this is the information age plus this act of people expecting rewards for little effort as preached by the modern day MOG borders on criminality and should be a regarded as a burning issue.
Of course some might differ but we need to discuss this and so front page it is on NL.

dabriggs: Let me even ask. Howmany of the early christians gave because they wanted "Double Portion of Blessing"? They gave and out of love, never expecting returns.
How many of the Appostles taught that sowing seeds in dollars or denari or gold coins or silver coins will give you blessings in denari and gold coins?

However I am waiting for people to justify his principle, even quoting from the scriptures and interpreting it to suit their notions.

These are kingdom messages.It will for sure be difficult to understand when you look at it carnally or trying to use the earthly wisdom.There are people who stay in church all their life or have a good relationship with God but scarcely receive financial blessings from God.
The kingdom is tied to principles and it takes the grace of God to identify those kingdom principles.Another grace to hear or be among men of God who teach this kingdom principles and a greater grace to adhere to those kingdom principles.
PST.Adeboye who has always maintained a biblical stands on issues all along has now tried to bring the word of God to the levels that even a lay man will understand and adhere to with the help of the power of the holy spirit and will have no reason to be tied down financially.

Hear instruction and be wise, and do not neglect it.-Proverbs 8:33.

For some of us here,we may see it as scam,some will see it as the word of God and will tap into it and you see them moving up the FINANCIAL LADDER while their SALVATION is still not threatened. -Luke 6:38''give, and it will be given to you. Good measure, pressed down, shaken together, running over, will be put into your lap. For with the measure you use it will be measured back to you'' He used this scripture in teaching financial upliftment.He has also used this scripture to teach love.In the area of finance,he is saying that what you give is what you get.
(1 Corinthians 9:11If we have sown spiritual seed among you, is it too much if we reap material benefits from you?)This was the exact saying of apostle paul to the corinthians regarding men of God receiving from the church members or people who listen to their messages.But i know ofcourse if pastors start to speak this way people might say they are being greedy and scamers.
But regarding whether it is proper to teach seed sowing so as to receive from God,let's see the following scriptures:

''The point is this: whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows bountifully will also reap bountifully.-2 Corinthians 9:6
''Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap.-Galatians 6:7
''In the morning sow your seed, and at evening withhold not your hand, for you do not know which will prosper, this or that, or whether both alike will be good-Ecclessiastes 11:6
''And Isaac sowed in that land and reaped in the same year a hundredfold. The Lord blessed him,Gen.26:12
''One gives freely, yet grows all the richer; another withholds what he should give, and only suffers want. Whoever brings blessing will be enriched, and one who waters will himself be watered.-Proverbs 11:24-25
''While the earth remains, seed time and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night, shall not cease.-Gen 8:22
''He who supplies seed to the sower and bread for food will supply and multiply your seed for sowing and increase the harvest of your righteousness.-2CORINTHIANS 9:10
''They sow fields and plant vineyards and get a fruitful yield.-Psalm 107:37
''Truly, truly, I say to you, unless a grain of wheat falls into the earth and dies, it remains alone; but if it dies, it bears much fruit. .-John 12:24
Well going by the above,i think there is nothing wrong bringing out all that matters in the holy scriptures regarding wealth building. Pst.Adeboye only came down for all to understand so as not to deprive anyone from receiving that which God has made available for his children.I have read about Pst Adeboye saying that if you are an unbeliever and tithe or sow seeds or even bring offerings unto God,you are wasting your time according to the scriptures.
Having said all these,i think there is absolutely nothing wrong teaching seed sowing in any way you like.Just give and you will receive.If you give SHEKELS,you will receive SHEKELS.If you give NAIRA you will receive NAIRA.If you give DOLLARS,u will receive DOLLARS.If you give EURO,you will receive EURO.If you give pounds,you will receive POUNDS.If you DON'T give,you WILL NOT receive.If you give and dnt believe you will receive,you will not receive.If you dnt give at all,you will not receive at all.
BUT NOTE;YOU CAN RECEIVE FROM DEVIL BUT YOU DNT HAVE TO GIVE TO GOD or MAN to receive from the devil.
God bless us.

juman:

This is funny. .

I agree with you, there was a country. Nigerians became "RELIGIOUS" during IBB time when he (IBB) destroyed the economy. I vividly remember. It was that economic problem that time that pushed people to "leaders of religions".

It was around this time that warehouses, malls, eateries and factories became mega churches.

rusher14:
You may feel disheartened but this is the information age plus this act of people expecting rewards for little effort as preached by the modern day MOG borders on criminality and should be a regarded as a burning issue.
Of course some might differ but we need to discuss this and so front page it is on NL.

It's good to discuss it but shouldn't do it in a negative sense.The devil wan't s us to be divided every now and then regarding the things of God.But if what some of these preachers say and do are in line with scriptures,let's not abuse them.Even if they err,let's not curse them or fight them for the battle is of the lord.Remember they are humans and not CHRIST.When we contribute to issues,let's do it scripturally. I know the bible never asked us to sin just becos some body may or a man of God erred! Guard your heart jealously and also control your tongues for it habours life and death !

my pastor say dat u should
neve let d lack of money intemedate u
dnt measure ur life with wat u have give more than u have nd u will recive more than expect.

m.k.o2005:

These are kingdom messages.It will for sure be difficult to understand when you look at it carnally or trying to use the earthly wisdom.There are people who stay in church all their life or have a good relationship with God but scarcely receive financial blessings from God.
The kingdom is tied to principles and it takes the grace of God to identify those kingdom principles.Another grace to hear or be among men of God who teach this kingdom principles and a greater grace to adhere to those kingdom principles.
PST.Adeboye who has always maintained a biblical stands on issues all along has now tried to bring the word of God to the levels that even a lay man will understand and adhere to with the help of the power of the holy spirit and will have no reason to be tied down financially.

Hear instruction and be wise, and do not neglect it.-Proverbs 8:33.

For some of us here,we may see it as scam,some will see it as the word of God and will tap into it and you see them moving up the FINANCIAL LADDER while their SALVATION is still not threatened. -Luke 6:38''give, and it will be given to you. Good measure, pressed down, shaken together, running over, will be put into your lap. For with the measure you use it will be measured back to you'' He used this scripture in teaching financial upliftment.He has also used this scripture to teach love.In the area of finance,he is saying that what you give is what you get.
(1 Corinthians 9:11If we have sown spiritual seed among you, is it too much if we reap material benefits from you?)This was the exact saying of apostle paul to the corinthians regarding men of God receiving from the church members or people who listen to their messages.But i know ofcourse if pastors start to speak this way people might say they are being greedy and scamers.
But regarding whether it is proper to teach seed sowing so as to receive from God,let's see the following scriptures:

''The point is this: whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows bountifully will also reap bountifully.-2 Corinthians 9:6
''Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap.-Galatians 6:7
''In the morning sow your seed, and at evening withhold not your hand, for you do not know which will prosper, this or that, or whether both alike will be good-Ecclessiastes 11:6
''And Isaac sowed in that land and reaped in the same year a hundredfold. The Lord blessed him,Gen.26:12
''One gives freely, yet grows all the richer; another withholds what he should give, and only suffers want. Whoever brings blessing will be enriched, and one who waters will himself be watered.-Proverbs 11:24-25
''While the earth remains, seed time and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night, shall not cease.-Gen 8:22
''He who supplies seed to the sower and bread for food will supply and multiply your seed for sowing and increase the harvest of your righteousness.-2CORINTHIANS 9:10
''They sow fields and plant vineyards and get a fruitful yield.-Psalm 107:37
''Truly, truly, I say to you, unless a grain of wheat falls into the earth and dies, it remains alone; but if it dies, it bears much fruit. .-John 12:24
Well going by the above,i think there is nothing wrong bringing out all that matters in the holy scriptures regarding wealth building. Pst.Adeboye only came down for all to understand so as not to deprive anyone from receiving that which God has made available for his children.I have read about Pst Adeboye saying that if you are an unbeliever and tithe or sow seeds or even bring offerings unto God,you are wasting your time according to the scriptures.
Having said all these,i think there is absolutely nothing wrong teaching seed sowing in any way you like.Just give and you will receive.If you give SHEKELS,you will receive SHEKELS.If you give NAIRA you will receive NAIRA.If you give DOLLARS,u will receive DOLLARS.If you give EURO,you will receive EURO.If you give pounds,you will receive POUNDS.If you DON'T give,you WILL NOT receive.If you give and dnt believe you will receive,you will not receive.If you dnt give at all,you will not receive at all.
BUT NOTE;YOU CAN RECEIVE FROM DEVIL BUT YOU DNT HAVE TO GIVE TO GOD or MAN to receive from the devil.
God bless us.

how many times will you post this thing? it is when people dispute whatever your revered MOG saya you'll now come here and tell us that it is a spiritual message that carnal minds cant understand. my own take in this matter is simple, if you want wealth you should work hard and work smart whether you believe in God or not. your reason for serving God should not be to gain material benefits, it should out of love and the desire to make paradise. give out your own free will whatever is most comfortable for you not out of compulsion, threat, promises or because you want money doubling. . .

autotrader,i hope u know how the message of christ was spread around the world?pple were burnt,beheaded,fed to lions,as a catholic priest or nun,sex and children were out of it,can we even begin to count those missionaries that would have died of malaria before cure was found!christian leaders that sit on fence are not what this country needs right now,they say they dont want to incite violence as if they will be the first to do peaceful march,but they can go to yankee for convention after rev MLK died for civil rights,infact our pastors(esp pentecostal pastors)spike the desperation to be rich at all cost with their teachings as they have linked financial excess with holiness or favorable disposition of God towards the believer,missionaries built schools all over nigeria to help free the mind of newer generations of africans,thats why schooling was not associated with the wealthy in the olden days.giving is good but the giving any pastor talks about is not to give pple on the street and come to church empty handed.i agree there is a direct connection between giving and getting but i also wont stop a person from complaining if he noticed a pastor wearing a suit that will cost thousands of dollars(adeboye has maintained an appearance that at least proves he his not vain),we need men of God that can speak the truth to kings as easily as they encourage the collection of tithe,offerings and seeds

acidtalk:

If he doesn't preach such how do you think he will be amongst the private jet and university owners.

I read this recent City People Magazine and I wept for christians and christianity. See the list of landed properties, warehouses, hotels and event centers owned to Chris Oyakhilome. Omo, the word MAGA originated from the christian community.

did I hear you say City People Magazine? Sorry oh! U really miss road

m.k.o2005:

These are kingdom messages.It will for sure be difficult to understand when you look at it carnally or trying to use the earthly wisdom.There are people who stay in church all their life or have a good relationship with God but scarcely receive financial blessings from God.
The kingdom is tied to principles and it takes the grace of God to identify those kingdom principles.Another grace to hear or be among men of God who teach this kingdom principles and a greater grace to adhere to those kingdom principles.
PST.Adeboye who has always maintained a biblical stands on issues all along has now tried to bring the word of God to the levels that even a lay man will understand and adhere to with the help of the power of the holy spirit and will have no reason to be tied down financially.

Hear instruction and be wise, and do not neglect it.-Proverbs 8:33.

For some of us here,we may see it as scam,some will see it as the word of God and will tap into it and you see them moving up the FINANCIAL LADDER while their SALVATION is still not threatened. -Luke 6:38''give, and it will be given to you. Good measure, pressed down, shaken together, running over, will be put into your lap. For with the measure you use it will be measured back to you'' He used this scripture in teaching financial upliftment.He has also used this scripture to teach love.In the area of finance,he is saying that what you give is what you get.
(1 Corinthians 9:11If we have sown spiritual seed among you, is it too much if we reap material benefits from you?)This was the exact saying of apostle paul to the corinthians regarding men of God receiving from the church members or people who listen to their messages.But i know ofcourse if pastors start to speak this way people might say they are being greedy and scamers.
But regarding whether it is proper to teach seed sowing so as to receive from God,let's see the following scriptures:

''The point is this: whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows bountifully will also reap bountifully.-2 Corinthians 9:6
''Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap.-Galatians 6:7
''In the morning sow your seed, and at evening withhold not your hand, for you do not know which will prosper, this or that, or whether both alike will be good-Ecclessiastes 11:6
''And Isaac sowed in that land and reaped in the same year a hundredfold. The Lord blessed him,Gen.26:12
''One gives freely, yet grows all the richer; another withholds what he should give, and only suffers want. Whoever brings blessing will be enriched, and one who waters will himself be watered.-Proverbs 11:24-25
''While the earth remains, seed time and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night, shall not cease.-Gen 8:22
''He who supplies seed to the sower and bread for food will supply and multiply your seed for sowing and increase the harvest of your righteousness.-2CORINTHIANS 9:10
''They sow fields and plant vineyards and get a fruitful yield.-Psalm 107:37
''Truly, truly, I say to you, unless a grain of wheat falls into the earth and dies, it remains alone; but if it dies, it bears much fruit. .-John 12:24
Well going by the above,i think there is nothing wrong bringing out all that matters in the holy scriptures regarding wealth building. Pst.Adeboye only came down for all to understand so as not to deprive anyone from receiving that which God has made available for his children.I have read about Pst Adeboye saying that if you are an unbeliever and tithe or sow seeds or even bring offerings unto God,you are wasting your time according to the scriptures.
Having said all these,i think there is absolutely nothing wrong teaching seed sowing in any way you like.Just give and you will receive.If you give SHEKELS,you will receive SHEKELS.If you give NAIRA you will receive NAIRA.If you give DOLLARS,u will receive DOLLARS.If you give EURO,you will receive EURO.If you give pounds,you will receive POUNDS.If you DON'T give,you WILL NOT receive.If you give and dnt believe you will receive,you will not receive.If you dnt give at all,you will not receive at all.
BUT NOTE;YOU CAN RECEIVE FROM DEVIL BUT YOU DNT HAVE TO GIVE TO GOD or MAN to receive from the devil.
God bless us.

Please can you explain how giving was done in the old testament? because that is the basis for all what we do today. I take it that no 10% was given to the Levites (MOG) but shared among the widows, orphans and destitute in the society including the Levites. When did all this change and why now after it has changed do these Levites constitute the richest amongst the same givers? Has God suddenly changed?

Maxymilliano: I was quite dumbfounded when I read the hard copy of the post, this is just prosperity message taken too far, I never knew God moves around with calculator monitoring the currencies in which the numerous and assorted seeds are collected in His name. God must sure be a business man.

my broda d problm wit most xtians lyk u is dat u dnt read d bible.if u do u wil knw dat even makng a mockery of a man of god is smting seros nt even god hmsf.excdpt ure nt a xtian cos niraland is fild wit atheist

salafiyy: hmmm...systematic way of getting people to pay for a jumbo plane...anyway i'm proud to be a MUSLIM

atleast we dnt sponsor terorist wit our money.islam my ass

rusher14:
Please can you explain how giving was done in the old testament? because that is the basis for all what we do today. I take it that no 10% was given to the Levites (MOG) but shared among the widows, orphans and destitute in the society including the Levites. When did all this change and why now after it has changed do these Levites constitute the richest amongst the same givers? Has God suddenly changed?

Even when it was given to the Levites it was because the lineage of the levites who were exempted from all form of labour.


i got this from a jewish website that will explain a lot and will open ur eyes

Shemos

The Kohanim and Leviim (priests and Levites) form a distinct and special group among the Jewish people.

The Torah grants them special privileges and the Jewish people as a whole accord them special honors.

In Temple times, they were the custodians and public servants of Israel in the Temple service.

The gifts and tithes of Israel supported them and they were exempted from many civic responsibilities and national duties.

They were to be devoted to the service of God and of Israel, a holy and dedicated cadre of teachers, role models and public servants.

Even today, when Temple services in Jerusalem are nonexistent and the kohanim and Leviim receive no tithes or special gifts from the rest of Israel, they still receive special honors in the synagogue and family and are viewed with unique respect and honor.

In the enslavement of the Jews in Egypt, which is described in this week's Torah reading, the tribe of Levi was exempted from the physical toil of forced labor.

Moshe and Aharon, the first kohanim, were the leaders of Israel and it is through their hands that the deliverance from Egyptian bondage was achieved. We all know that being a kohen or a Levi is a matter of Jewish patrilineal descent.
But nevertheless, there is a clearer and much more universal definition of being a member of this group that the Torah provides, and that definition includes all of us, in fact, every human being on earth.

Rabbi Moshe ben Maimon in his Mishna Torah, at the end of Hilchot Shmita V'Yovel, states: "What differentiated the tribe of Levi...was that they were designated and separated from the others in order to devote themselves to the service of God, to teach God's righteous ways and just statutes to the many...

Therefore, they were held apart from worldly ways and mundane tasks; they did not participate in the battles of war;
they did not inherit or acquire for themselves land.

doesnt that last statement blow your mind

Churches have been turned to financial institutions. Prosperity is the theme of sermons. Nigrerians have become unproductive because they believe so much in miracles & sowing of seeds. Faith without works is death.

PalmTree:

This is pathetic! How dare you compare Dangote and co to Religious leaders? When the world heats up and we feel like we are hanging mid-air, when life becomes so frustrating and we feel lost, is it not the church that should come to our rescue? The solace, the love, the fellowship that Jesus Christ promised us is what is expected of the church, but now most xtains run away from wolfs into the waiting hands of the dire wolfs.
But pls don't ever compare capitalists and clerics again because the latter is expected to be a role model to the former.

Oga I concur.
Leave d Matrix guy alone, he too wan start in own church business soon.

ActiveMan: so if i do not sow in the church GOD will not bless me?

does God need my money?

A carnal man cannot receive anything frm d Lord..for to be carnally minded is death and to be spiritualy is lyf and peace.

if you want to teach a religion then you ought to teach it well....the Levis and custodians do not have land or aquire wealth,in Isreal.

.......now I knw why the pastors can buy jets,limousines,range rovers,build schools continuosly and without stress ......


With this kind of message why won't a gullible person tithe or give an offering of 1 million naira so that he or she can get it double.......""Double portion""......

They've turned God into a money doubler.....

God lists the various matenot kehuna, the "priestly gifts"
that the people must bring to the kohanim in exchange for their work and service of God in the
Mishkan (Tabernacle).

The Levi'im, too, who assist the kohanim, are given a tithe from farmers'
produce as reward for their service.
This arrangement also entails a provision that the tribe of Levi,
which of course includes both the kohanim and the Levi'im, does not receive a portion in the Land of
Israel. Regarding the kohanim, we read, "The Lord said to Aharon: You shall inherit no portion in
their land, and you shall have no share in their midst – I am your share and portion among the
Israelites"

Thus, the Torah ordains that the kohanim and Levi'im must not own farmland, as do the other
tribes, and should be sustained through the various gifts prescribed in this section. Rather than living
off the fruits of their own labor, the kohanim and Levi'im must desist from profitable work and be
supported by the rest of the nation.

Accordingly, Maimonides, in his Sefer Ha-mitzvot (lo ta'aseh 169-170), lists two prohibitions
relating to property acquisition on the part of the tribe of Levi – that they shall have no "portion" and
no "share."

"Portion" (nachala), Maimonides explains (based on the Sifrei), refers to a portion in the
land of Israel, whereas "share" (chelek) denotes rights to spoils won during a nationwide military
campaign. The kohanim and Levi'im were denied both a tribal portion of Eretz Yisrael, as well as a
share in the wartime spoils.

In Mishneh Torah (Hilkhot Shemita Ve-yovel 13:12), Maimonides provides the reason behind this
prohibition:
“Why did Levi not earn a portion of the Land of Israel or its

Bidam: Depends on how u see this message...God message is multifaceted and multi-dimensional. Adeboye may be talking abt naira and dollars as seeds but seeds can be ur time, energy and resources u put in a particular venture d quality of ur time determines d quality of ur harvest..in spiritual realm jus lyk d earthly realm currency is d rule of d game and wen i mean currency it is just not only money but consistency,persistency and perseverance in ur goals and pursuit for a better future and destiny. Peace.

tanx man sum ppl jst commennt anyhw jst get d message out of it & forget abt d pastorpreneur, me personally i don't lyk im either but d message dat am interested in

Why did Levi not earn a portion of the Land of Israel or its spoils together with its
brethren? Because it was set aside to serve God, to attend to Him, and to instruct His
upright ways and just laws to the masses… They were therefore set apart from the ways
of the world: they do not conduct warfare like the rest of Israel, nor do they receive a
portion [of the land]… They are rather the army of God… and He, blessed is He, earns
on their behalf, as it says, "I am Your share and Your portion."