paul on talking about himself said;acts 21:33,i have coveted no man' silver or gold,or apparel, yourselves know that these hands have ministered unto my neccesities and to them that were with me,i have showed u all things,how that so labouring you ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the lord jesus,it is more blessed to give than to recieve

Study the scriptures and be diligent. Do not let a man created in ‘like-passions’ pull a wool over your eyes in the name of God.....open ur eyes wide

These pastors should focus their energy on "What the Church can give the poor, over-milked" masses!

Even God is tired of receiving "MONEY" from the poor masses ..... HE only needs their PRAISES AND SONGS OF WORSHIP now!

These 419 Pastors should cover their head in shame!

Its their type that Jesus used Koboko, to whip out of the Synagogue, in the Biblical times!

Shege-banza!

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shadrach77: in a haste to criticize the man of God, some people failed to realise that their is a difference between sowing and giving. Your contributions in church is GIVING. God did not say sow your tithe, he said BRING it because it belongs to Him. Also the bible did not say God loves a cheerful sower, it said God loves a cheerful giver. SOWING is what you do when you are expecting a harvest and many portions of the bible support this.

Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. Galatians 6:7 (KJV)

Why do people like to "quote Bible passage" in a way to buttress their pre-conceived positions?

The highlighted phrase above WAS NOT USED in the "CONTEXT OF MONEY"!

It was used in the context of "our general livelihood and behavior to MAN and GOD"!

In simple terms, it means "If you do evil (sow evil or wickedness), you will reap same .... but if you practice righteousness (so Godliness, obidience to his laws), you will also reap likewise in terms of Peace and salvation.

STOP Twisting the BIBLE to suit your penchant for mischief and dubiousness!

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Caveat: The above post does not refer to your person (messenger) but to the quote (message) you made, so please dont take it "personal".

A message from me about giving: ' God is tired of receiving from fraudsters and swindlers in political offices and wants you to give the ophanage homes, natural disasters victims, taking up the responsibilities of sponsorship to higher learnings; those who lacks the resources. God listens to their cry more than those of the churches, since all their pastors/priests do is purchasing of 'private jets', and cruising the latest jeeps, with their wives travelling from one country to the other like first lady. Who is deceiving who?

Zeus I: A message from me about giving: ' God is tired of receiving from fraudsters and swindlers in political offices and wants you to give the ophanage homes, natural disasters victims, taking up the responsibilities of sponsorship to higher learnings; those who lacks the resources. God listens to their cry more than those of the churches, since all their pastors/priests do is purchasing of 'private jets', and cruising the latest jeeps, with their wives travelling from one country to the other like first lady. Who is deceiving who?

very true zeus.

The best way to practice christianity is by strictly paying more attention to ur conscience n reading ur bible. Not by taking another man as ur God no matter how ordained the person is.I fill more fulfilled giving my tithe to the less priveleged than dropping it in a church box.

PortHarcourtBoy: Imagine the bullshyte!!

Make this rogue pastor go the Middle East and see Arabs dey reap mega without sowing in a church

Make e go India and see Buddhist dey reap through brainwork

Make e go China and see the reward for hardwork

Na only gullible Nigerians wey one asz(h)ole pastor go come decieve say na by giving a certain denomination wey go amount to your blessings...Lazy set of people...

Me I no dey go church, I no dey pay tithe, I no dey give offering, but the same God wey create you and I dey bless me mega...

if u d'nt hav any tin to say ,beter shut up ,do not tempt GoD,a bus was coming to east from lagos and a preacher started to preach,one man stood and started chalenging him,although everybody were against the man,people were telling him if u sre nt interested that it is nt by force,suddenly the bus had un-esplainable accident and onley the man died,do nt chalenge GOD.

stankezzy: if u d'nt hav any tin to say ,beter shut up ,do not tempt GoD,a bus was coming to east from lagos and a preacher started to preach,one man stood and started chalenging him,although everybody were against the man,people were telling him if u sre nt interested that it is nt by force,suddenly the bus had un-esplainable accident and onley the man died,do nt chalenge GOD.

So in your "little brain", you attribute this "accident" to the fact that the man challenged the Preacher-man?

What about all those who got roasted and died (a very painful death!) in the DANA Air crash?
Who did they challenge? General Overseer?

or did you not know that some of those people were even Pastors?

All those "collapsed building accidents" in Lagos is also because somebody in those houses challenged an MOG, abi?
You can as well say that Yar Ardua died because he challenged a Pastor!

Use your brain and stop being to superstitious!

The real God does not exact those kind of wickedness/revenge for "challenging the status-quo" .....
..... Otherwise he could have created us like "Animals or Robots", without a "thinking faculty and ability to know right from wrong"!

Read your Bible well, know the God you serve.

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So in your "little brain", you attribute this "accident" to the fact that the man challenged the Preacher-man?

What about all those who got roasted and died (a very painful death!) in the DANA Air crash?
Who did they challenge? General Overseer?

or did you not know that some of those people were even Pastors?

All those "collapsed building accidents" in Lagos is also because somebody in those houses challenged an MOG, abi?
You can as well say that Yar Ardua died because he challenged a Pastor!

Use your brain and stop being to superstitious!

The real God does not exact those kind of wickedness/revenge for "challenging the status-quo" .....
..... Otherwise he could have created us like "Animals or Robots", without a "thinking faculty and ability to know right from wrong"!

Read your Bible well, know the God you serve.

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God bless you. It appears that some people no longer worship God, rather they worship their pastor.

jasmin3: The best way to practice christianity is by strictly paying more attention to ur conscience n reading ur bible. Not by taking another man as ur God no matter how ordained the person is.I fill more fulfilled giving my tithe to the less priveleged than dropping it in a church box.

not all true there ia also a place for mentorship..and a mature christain does not take their pastor as God..they honor and respect them.

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Why do people like to "quote Bible passage" in a way to buttress their pre-conceived positions?

The highlighted phrase above WAS NOT USED in the "CONTEXT OF MONEY"!

It was used in the context of "our general livelihood and behavior to MAN and GOD"!

In simple terms, it means "If you do evil (sow evil or wickedness), you will reap same .... but if you practice righteousness (so Godliness, obidience to his laws), you will also reap likewise in terms of Peace and salvation.

STOP Twisting the BIBLE to suit your penchant for mischief and dubiousness!

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Caveat: The above post does not refer to your person (messenger) but to the quote (message) you made, so please dont take it "personal".

okay. I was misquoting the bible, abi? What about the scripture below? Was it also talking about God and Man ?

But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully. - 2 Corinthians 9:6 (KJV)

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So in your "little brain", you attribute this "accident" to the fact that the man challenged the Preacher-man?

What about all those who got roasted and died (a very painful death!) in the DANA Air crash?
Who did they challenge? General Overseer?

or did you not know that some of those people were even Pastors?

All those "collapsed building accidents" in Lagos is also because somebody in those houses challenged an MOG, abi?
You can as well say that Yar Ardua died because he challenged a Pastor!

Use your brain and stop being to superstitious!

The real God does not exact those kind of wickedness/revenge for "challenging the status-quo" .....
..... Otherwise he could have created us like "Animals or Robots", without a "thinking faculty and ability to know right from wrong"!

Read your Bible well, know the God you serve.

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Thank you my brother and the bighead also forgot how Paul totured and killed the preachers of God in the Bible, but God never killed him rather he turned him to his servant. Trust me, if that story sef was true and not one of those many scam stories those con pastors use to put fears into their gullible members(so as not to check their excesses), God would not allow that man to die, rather he would give him so many chances to change his ways. God is not a wicked God and I kinda wonder which kind of God these guys serve these days, cos these pastors present Him to their members as a very wicked God.

@OP----So this stupid Adeboye in his theory wants to tell us that a poor man will always remain poor as he has no dollar nor pounds to give. Whatever happened to widows mite

shadrach77:
okay. I was misquoting the bible, abi? What about the scripture below? Was it also talking about God and Man ?

But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully. - 2 Corinthians 9:6 (KJV)

You can sow in so many ways my fried, God has already told you in the Bible how to give and sow, He said; When you give to the poor, you are giving to me. So you do not need any man of God(whatever you guys call these thieves) to tell you how to give to Him. The richest men on forbes list sowed nothing and most are not even christians. Listen, God is not interested in the riches of this world and who told you that God's blessings must be in monetary terms. Honestly, Nigerians do not love God cos they are only worshipping Him cos of what they will get from Him and not true love

ehie: i WONDER WHAT John the Baptist would have called your Daddy,or wasnt John the Baptist a man of God,eating locusts and honey,living in the desert,Jesus had no assest that i know of,no horse,no house,no silk robes,what he had he made sure his discples and the crowd following him ate,if he ate bread,they ate bread.

Was John the baptist crucified on the cross or did he die for our sins ? Was Jesus in the bush eating locust and wild honey ?
Christ said if you believe in HIM you will do exceedingly greater things than HE did ? Peter and other disciples were busy preaching to the Jews but Paul the Apostle said he was inspired by God to preach to EVEN the gentiles !
Each man with his own revelation but it must never contradict the word of God.If it does,then it's not from God !
God bless us !

Zeus I: A message from me about giving: ' God is tired of receiving from fraudsters and swindlers in political offices and wants you to give the ophanage homes, natural disasters victims, taking up the responsibilities of sponsorship to higher learnings; those who lacks the resources. God listens to their cry more than those of the churches, since all their pastors/priests do is purchasing of 'private jets', and cruising the latest jeeps, with their wives travelling from one country to the other like first lady. Who is deceiving who?

There are grounds for giving ! Not everyone can receive from God ! If you are against God and yet to accept Jesus as your lord and personal saviour,do you think God will want to give to you ? NO.So why will i give to whom God did not approve ? If you sow on a fertile soil you know what will happen bro but if on a rocky or stony ground,you sure know what will happen. Give wisely because not or less privilege or poor people can receive from God !
God bless us

ehie: 1 peter 2 21,for hereunto u were called,becos christ also suffered for us,that u should follow in his steps. Let me tell u a truth,life is not fair,some will be rich some be poor,some will have good health,some will not,but in everything give thanks.

The bible which is the word of God has offered you life but you want to choose death.He said there is good and there is evil but HE is advising us to choose the good so that we will live. If some must be poor no mater what,do you want to be that poor some when you can be rich and still have your salvation intact.Or If christ has made good health possible and you are now saying that some must be in bad health,do you want to be that some that must be in bad health ?
The truth is that you can be poor and die in your bad and health poverty and still make heaven.Where as i can be rich be in good health and still join you in heaven. BE WISE MATE !
God bless us

High_Chief:

You can sow in so many ways my fried, God has already told you in the Bible how to give and sow, He said; When you give to the poor, you are giving to me. So you do not need any man of God(whatever you guys call these thieves) to tell you how to give to Him. The richest men on forbes list sowed nothing and most are not even christians. Listen, God is not interested in the riches of this world and who told you that God's blessings must be in monetary terms. Honestly, Nigerians do not love God cos they are only worshipping Him cos of what they will get from Him and not true love

Do you think the richest men on forbes are ''rich''?
That's one of the reasons Jesus came,that's why we have apostle and others and also that's why we have this man called pst.Adeboye whom you just labelled thief ! Christ was also called thief and a heretic.Apostle paul and other apostles were also called thives and heretics.And now Adeboye ! Anyway,all of them came to teach you and i but he who has ears let him hear ! Christ thot and did the one biggest thing that brought HIM to earth,DIED FOR YOU AND I.
Pls what is riches or wealth ? God said i have given you power to make wealth !''The blessing of the LORD brings wealth, and he adds no trouble to it.Proverb.11:4.
''therefore wisdom and knowledge will be given you. And I will also give you wealth, riches and honor, such as no king who was before you ever had and none after you will have."-2 Chronicles 1:12 This was the exact word of God to Solomon. Brother,you can talk about wealth and riches leaving out money ! Wealth is all encompassing BUT THAT IS NOT THE REASON WHY WE ARE HER !
God bless us

m.k.o2005:

The bible which is the word of God has offered you life but you want to choose death.He said there is good and there is evil but HE is advising us to choose the good so that we will live. If some must be poor no mater what,do you want to be that poor some when you can be rich and still have your salvation intact.Or If christ has made good health possible and you are now saying that some must be in bad health,do you want to be that some that must be in bad health ?
The truth is that you can be poor and die in your bad and health poverty and still make heaven.Where as i can be rich be in good health and still join you in heaven. BE WISE MATE !
God bless us

My silence doesnt mean i believe you,but its becos its better to leave a fool in his folly

High_Chief:

Thank you my brother and the bighead also forgot how Paul totured and killed the preachers of God in the Bible, but God never killed him rather he turned him to his servant. Trust me, if that story sef was true and not one of those many scam stories those con pastors use to put fears into their gullible members(so as not to check their excesses), God would not allow that man to die, rather he would give him so many chances to change his ways. God is not a wicked God and I kinda wonder which kind of God these guys serve these days, cos these pastors present Him to their members as a very wicked God.

@OP----So this stupid Adeboye in his theory wants to tell us that a poor man will always remain poor as he has no dollar nor pounds to give. Whatever happened to widows mite

The widow did not sow but gave ! And was appreciated by the receiver -Jesus Christ. She gave even while in pains ! But if i go to church with one thousand naira,and when it's time for giving and i give 20 naira,i tell you it would have been better i did not give at all. David said he won't give God what will not cost him !That is to say,he will give even when it's not convenient to give.Remember the case of cane and abel ? one was accepted and the other wasn't accepted yet they were both children of God ! So God can reject your offering whether cash or farm produce.
And brother pls,dnt call somebody stupid.Besides,this man did not do anything to you and people who attend his church go there on their own.And you are not God whom he claims to be worshipping. If you think he is a thief,leave God to judge him accordingly.
God bless us

ehie: My silence doesnt mean i believe you,but its becos its better to leave a fool in his folly

I am no fool neither are you one. But the only person my bible told me that can be regarded or addressed as a fool is one who has said in his heart that there is no God !
My brother,Jesus loves you ,he died for you and i.I know you are familiar with this line but think about it and allow the holy spirit full time in your live !
I love you my brother !
God bless us

jasmin3: The best way to practice christianity is by strictly paying more attention to ur conscience n reading ur bible. Not by taking another man as ur God no matter how ordained the person is.I fill more fulfilled giving my tithe to the less priveleged than dropping it in a church box.

It is good to give money to the less privileges but that is not tithe. The tithe is to take to the house of God so there will be plenty there as we have it today but only that some people say that the plenty in church is not for plenty people(not going round) but for few in the house of God.Only God knows this one.Or you can be like some other who say they dnt pay tithe at all becos it is only an old testament instruction. But sse below the words of Jesus to the Pharisees who only want to pay tithe and not listen to the less privileges or attend to their needs:
[b]"What sorrow awaits you Pharisees! For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens, but you ignore justice and the love of God. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things.''LUKE 11:42. You see why i say you must do both to be in God's good book! It is good to tithe if you understand it and also good to give to the poor !
God bless us

You fundamental nutjob.

You are obviously a discipline of the scripture of avarice,greed and self love..
i made certain things clear in my post

I stated that the doctrine of tithing practiced in present day Israel,the genesis of christainty states that the people of Israel should give the tithes to the levis,priest etc,but the levis should not own any property.

the health and wealth doctrines championed by the your MOG is wrong
why wasn't a lot of emphasis placed on wealth during Jesus sojourn but a lot of emphasis placed on righteousness,charity,love?


[b]) You cannot truly give your allegiance to God while at the same time trusting in and lusting after material gain - you can't worship both God and "Mammon" at the same time (Matt.6:24; Lk.16:13).

2) We brought nothing into this world and will take nothing out of it (1Tim.6:7).

3) Lust for material gain makes us vulnerable to the devil's attacks, and threatens our salvation (1Tim.6:9).

4) The love of money is a source of all sorts of evils, turning us from the faith and causing us much anguish (1Tim.6:10).

5) Greed is essentially idolatry (Col.3:5), and its practitioners idolaters (Eph.5:5).

6) Covetousness lured Balaam into sacrificing his relationship with God for the sake of money, so that his actions are proverbial for the deceptiveness of wealth (2Pet.2:15; Jude 11).

7) Envy is the true root of acquisition lust (Eccl.4:4).

8. The lust for wealth can never be satisfied by any success (Eccl.5:10).

9) Wealth can be a severe disadvantage, keeping us from God (Lk.18:23-25).

10) Where your treasure is, there is your heart also (Matt.6:19-21; cf. Lk.12:32-34).

11) What does it profit a man to gain the world but lose his soul? (Mk.8:36; Lk.9:25)

12) Your life does not depend upon an abundance of possessions (Lk.12:15).

13) Storing up material things rather than striving to be rich towards God is folly (Lk.12:21).

14) Discipleship requires the willingness to put God before possessions (Lk.14:33).

15) Wealth can distort one's perspective, choking spiritual growth (Mk.4:19).

16) Nothing is permanent, not even great wealth; great wealth merely subjects the possessor to greater temptation and a higher standard of judgment (Jas.5:1-6 and Lk.12:48).

17) Covetousness is forbidden by the 10th commandment (Ex.20:17; Deut.5:21).


you only see and hear what you want to hear..
every man is entitled to be a fool[/b]

ehie: My silence doesnt mean i believe you,but its becos its better to leave a fool in his folly

Don't bastardise the word of God by calling a brother a fool jus becos he tends not to follow ur line of reasonin..He is right and u re wrong

Good friend,the above are all true cos they are scriptural !
If you present anything first before God,you will be heading to hell !

THE LOVE OF MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL.

When you love money it becomes the root of all evil. Pls try to love God,fellow humans and use money !
When you present money before God it will definitely take you to hell.
Lust over material things is bad but does not mean we shouldn't posses them.
When you covet,you sure love money and will value it above God.
Money worshipping is idolatry no doubt.That's why we don't have to worship money. I.e,when you are supposed to be in the presence of God you are busy running after money.
YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON God and not money ,very true.It must be God first before money
Yes,wealth can be disadvantage to making heaven but that's why we must not make money at all cost.That's why the bible said the blessings of God maketh rich and added no sorrow. God can't give you money that will take you to hell.It's not possible.
Your life depends on the abundance of the presence of God in your life and not money. Yes no body said your life will be all about God and not money. YOU SEE WHY I SAID THE MEN ON THE FORBES LIST AREN'T RICH AT ALL-THEY LACK JESUS.THEY ARE NOT LIKE JOB WHO WAS RICH AND STILL THE FRIEND OF GOD.
If all my life i put my heart on wealth as against making heaven or having a good relationship with God,then my treasure can't be in heaven but my wealth.
Any man who does not put God first before possesion,is doomed eternally
What will it profit me to gain the whole world and loose my soul ? No wonder Christ said i should seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness AND EVERY OTHER THINGS WILL FOLLOW !
The kingdom of God first before the wealth !
Money is only a defence according to king solomon.
The only permanent thing in life is GOD !Money is not permanent so we can't make it our God.
If the preachers teach only how to make wealth every day in church,then they have missed it all together.This only mean they value money above God-Sin. Just like the laodicean church in revelation,they had riches/wealth but no Jesus.They were just like the richest men of Forbes list.Christ said they weer poor and naked. You see. You remember the rich fool in luke,he stored up wealth and said ther is no need to know who God is and God took his soul.
Please brethren,the principal thing is to Know Jesus even with all your wealth.It amy be difficult but not impossible.Christ said the rich and the poor can still make heaven becos of the possibilities with God.
You can distant your self from wealth and riches and still go to hell.And a rich man like Job can still be in heaven. The thing is accept christ as your lord and personal savior and ask for the spirit to guide you.

For me,i want to remain here to fulfill the promises of God in my life,to be rich and be in good health as i go about preaching the good news that jesus christ is lord ! If i dnt have good health,how will i enjoy long life !
God bless us

[quote author=ehie]


[b]) You cannot truly give your allegiance to God while at the same time trusting in and lusting after material gain - you can't worship both God and "Mammon" at the same time (Matt.6:24; Lk.16:13).

2) We brought nothing into this world and will take nothing out of it (1Tim.6:7).

3) Lust for material gain makes us vulnerable to the devil's attacks, and threatens our salvation (1Tim.6:9).

4) The love of money is a source of all sorts of evils, turning us from the faith and causing us much anguish (1Tim.6:10).

5) Greed is essentially idolatry (Col.3:5), and its practitioners idolaters (Eph.5:5).

6) Covetousness lured Balaam into sacrificing his relationship with God for the sake of money, so that his actions are proverbial for the deceptiveness of wealth (2Pet.2:15; Jude 11).

7) Envy is the true root of acquisition lust (Eccl.4:4).

8. The lust for wealth can never be satisfied by any success (Eccl.5:10).

9) Wealth can be a severe disadvantage, keeping us from God (Lk.18:23-25).

10) Where your treasure is, there is your heart also (Matt.6:19-21; cf. Lk.12:32-34).

11) What does it profit a man to gain the world but lose his soul? (Mk.8:36; Lk.9:25)

12) Your life does not depend upon an abundance of possessions (Lk.12:15).

13) Storing up material things rather than striving to be rich towards God is folly (Lk.12:21).

14) Discipleship requires the willingness to put God before possessions (Lk.14:33).

15) Wealth can distort one's perspective, choking spiritual growth (Mk.4:19).

16) Nothing is permanent, not even great wealth; great wealth merely subjects the possessor to greater temptation and a higher standard of judgment (Jas.5:1-6 and Lk.12:48).

17) Covetousness is forbidden by the 10th commandment (Ex.20:17; Deut.5:21).

ehie: You fundamental nutjob.

You are obviously a discipline of the scripture of avarice,greed and self love..
i made certain things clear in my post

I stated that the doctrine of tithing practiced in present day Israel,the genesis of christainty states that the people of Israel should give the tithes to the levis,priest etc,but the levis should not own any property.

the health and wealth doctrines championed by the your MOG is wrong
why wasn't a lot of emphasis placed on wealth during Jesus sojourn but a lot of emphasis placed on righteousness,charity,love?


[b]) You cannot truly give your allegiance to God while at the same time trusting in and lusting after material gain - you can't worship both God and "Mammon" at the same time (Matt.6:24; Lk.16:13).

2) We brought nothing into this world and will take nothing out of it (1Tim.6:7).

3) Lust for material gain makes us vulnerable to the devil's attacks, and threatens our salvation (1Tim.6:9).

4) The love of money is a source of all sorts of evils, turning us from the faith and causing us much anguish (1Tim.6:10).

5) Greed is essentially idolatry (Col.3:5), and its practitioners idolaters (Eph.5:5).

6) Covetousness lured Balaam into sacrificing his relationship with God for the sake of money, so that his actions are proverbial for the deceptiveness of wealth (2Pet.2:15; Jude 11).

7) Envy is the true root of acquisition lust (Eccl.4:4).

8. The lust for wealth can never be satisfied by any success (Eccl.5:10).

9) Wealth can be a severe disadvantage, keeping us from God (Lk.18:23-25).

10) Where your treasure is, there is your heart also (Matt.6:19-21; cf. Lk.12:32-34).

11) What does it profit a man to gain the world but lose his soul? (Mk.8:36; Lk.9:25)

12) Your life does not depend upon an abundance of possessions (Lk.12:15).

13) Storing up material things rather than striving to be rich towards God is folly (Lk.12:21).

14) Discipleship requires the willingness to put God before possessions (Lk.14:33).

15) Wealth can distort one's perspective, choking spiritual growth (Mk.4:19).

16) Nothing is permanent, not even great wealth; great wealth merely subjects the possessor to greater temptation and a higher standard of judgment (Jas.5:1-6 and Lk.12:48).

17) Covetousness is forbidden by the 10th commandment (Ex.20:17; Deut.5:21).


you only see and hear what you want to hear..
every man is entitled to be a fool[/b]

Good friend,the above are all true cos they are scriptural !
If you present anything first before God,you will be heading to hell !

THE LOVE OF MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL.

When you love money it becomes the root of all evil. Pls try to love God,fellow humans and use money !
When you present money before God it will definitely take you to hell.
Lust over material things is bad but does not mean we shouldn't posses them.
When you covet,you sure love money and will value it above God.
Money worshipping is idolatry no doubt.That's why we don't have to worship money. I.e,when you are supposed to be in the presence of God you are busy running after money.
YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON God and not money ,very true.It must be God first before money
Yes,wealth can be disadvantage to making heaven but that's why we must not make money at all cost.That's why the bible said the blessings of God maketh rich and added no sorrow. God can't give you money that will take you to hell.It's not possible.
Your life depends on the abundance of the presence of God in your life and not money. Yes no body said your life will be all about God and not money. YOU SEE WHY I SAID THE MEN ON THE FORBES LIST AREN'T RICH AT ALL-THEY LACK JESUS.THEY ARE NOT LIKE JOB WHO WAS RICH AND STILL THE FRIEND OF GOD.
If all my life i put my heart on wealth as against making heaven or having a good relationship with God,then my treasure can't be in heaven but my wealth.
Any man who does not put God first before possesion,is doomed eternally
What will it profit me to gain the whole world and loose my soul ? No wonder Christ said i should seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness AND EVERY OTHER THINGS WILL FOLLOW !
The kingdom of God first before the wealth !
Money is only a defence according to king solomon.
The only permanent thing in life is GOD !Money is not permanent so we can't make it our God.
If the preachers teach only how to make wealth every day in church,then they have missed it all together.This only mean they value money above God-Sin. Just like the laodicean church in revelation,they had riches/wealth but no Jesus.They were just like the richest men of Forbes list.Christ said they weer poor and Unclad. You see. You remember the rich fool in luke,he stored up wealth and said ther is no need to know who God is and God took his soul.
Please brethren,the principal thing is to Know Jesus even with all your wealth.It amy be difficult but not impossible.Christ said the rich and the poor can still make heaven becos of the possibilities with God.
You can distant your self from wealth and riches and still go to hell.And a rich man like Job can still be in heaven. The thing is accept christ as your lord and personal savior and ask for the spirit to guide you.

For me,i want to remain here to fulfill the promises of God in my life,to be rich and be in good health as i go about preaching the good news that jesus christ is lord ! If i dnt have good health,how will i enjoy long life !
God bless us

ehie: paul on talking about himself said;acts 21:33,i have coveted no man' silver or gold,or apparel, yourselves know that these hands have ministered unto my neccesities and to them that were with me,i have showed u all things,how that so labouring you ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the lord jesus,it is more blessed to give than to recieve

Yes very true.We are supposed to give to the weak and the poor but it is not wrong at all to give to MEN OF GOD !
Pls see below sentence as was made by apostle paul :
''If we have sown spiritual seed among you, is it too much if we reap material benefits from you?'' 1 Corinthians 9:11
I love the bible. It is very very very complete.Anything you dnt see in the bible is not relevant.Let's work or make do with what is there in.
God bless us

juliusagbo: Study the scriptures and be diligent. Do not let a man created in ‘like-passions’ pull a wool over your eyes in the name of God.....open ur eyes wide

If you ask the holy spirit to guide you,you will walk with God like a child. No personal reasoning but allowing the holy spirit to teach you the WORD!
God bless us

ehie: You fundamental nutjob.

You are obviously a discipline of the scripture of avarice,greed and self love..
i made certain things clear in my post

I stated that the doctrine of tithing practiced in present day Israel,the genesis of christainty states that the people of Israel should give the tithes to the levis,priest etc,but the levis should not own any property.

the health and wealth doctrines championed by the your MOG is wrong
why wasn't a lot of emphasis placed on wealth during Jesus sojourn but a lot of emphasis placed on righteousness,charity,love?


[b]) You cannot truly give your allegiance to God while at the same time trusting in and lusting after material gain - you can't worship both God and "Mammon" at the same time (Matt.6:24; Lk.16:13).

2) We brought nothing into this world and will take nothing out of it (1Tim.6:7).

3) Lust for material gain makes us vulnerable to the devil's attacks, and threatens our salvation (1Tim.6:9).

4) The love of money is a source of all sorts of evils, turning us from the faith and causing us much anguish (1Tim.6:10).

5) Greed is essentially idolatry (Col.3:5), and its practitioners idolaters (Eph.5:5).

6) Covetousness lured Balaam into sacrificing his relationship with God for the sake of money, so that his actions are proverbial for the deceptiveness of wealth (2Pet.2:15; Jude 11).

7) Envy is the true root of acquisition lust (Eccl.4:4).

8. The lust for wealth can never be satisfied by any success (Eccl.5:10).

9) Wealth can be a severe disadvantage, keeping us from God (Lk.18:23-25).

10) Where your treasure is, there is your heart also (Matt.6:19-21; cf. Lk.12:32-34).

11) What does it profit a man to gain the world but lose his soul? (Mk.8:36; Lk.9:25)

12) Your life does not depend upon an abundance of possessions (Lk.12:15).

13) Storing up material things rather than striving to be rich towards God is folly (Lk.12:21).

14) Discipleship requires the willingness to put God before possessions (Lk.14:33).

15) Wealth can distort one's perspective, choking spiritual growth (Mk.4:19).

16) Nothing is permanent, not even great wealth; great wealth merely subjects the possessor to greater temptation and a higher standard of judgment (Jas.5:1-6 and Lk.12:48).

17) Covetousness is forbidden by the 10th commandment (Ex.20:17; Deut.5:21).


you only see and hear what you want to hear..
every man is entitled to be a fool[/b]

hmmmmn...i wonder whether u truly are born again.. D devil knows scriptures and he quotes them dnt forget..d diffrences is dat he has no revelation or light in his quotes.