^^^

Okay , later.

For now ruminate on this :

"For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments; and His commandments are not burdensome." - 1 John 5:3

" And this is love: that we walk in obedience to his commands. As you have heard from the beginning, his command is that you walk in love " - 2 John 1:6

frosbel:

So we are no longer under the Law of Sin and Death pertaining to the Letter and the flesh , which was not able to meet it's requirements, but under the Law of Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus who by his sacrificial death and resurrection has fulfilled the LAW enabling us to obey it by grace through faith .

Every time you use that phrase, 'pertaining to the letter and the flesh', there is nothing like that. The letter is actually the 'law' itself given to Moses. It doesn't refer to the things written in black and white as in following what is written in black and white; no, it is following the 'law' itself.

#Yawns#

Goshen360:

Every time you use that phrase, 'pertaining to the letter and the flesh', there is nothing like that. The letter is actually the 'law' itself given to Moses. It doesn't refer to the things written in black and white as in following what is written in black and white; no, it is following the 'law' itself.

and :

" You show that you are a letter from Christ, the result of our ministry, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts." - 2 Corinthians 3:3

Once written with ink , now written by the Spirit of GOD on our hearts as :

"This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel after that time," declares the LORD. "I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people." - Jeremiah 31:33

Regarding the underlined, kindly explain, My LAW , which LAW ?

frosbel: ^^^

Okay , later.

For now ruminate on this :

"For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments; and His commandments are not burdensome." - 1 John 5:3

" And this is love: that we walk in obedience to his commands. As you have heard from the beginning, his command is that you walk in love " - 2 John 1:6

Now, you're talking. I've been saying love is fulfilling the law of Moses. It seems you didn't read the whole article I posted. Sinai is abolished and Zion is presented to us. The commandments that is mentioned here doesn't specify it to be '10' commandments but when part of the '10' re-surfaced to us, did it re-surfaced because Moses said so or because 'love' said so?

Goshen360:

Now, you're talking. I've been saying love is fulfilling the law of Moses. It seems you didn't read the whole article I posted. Sinai is abolished and Zion is presented to us. The commandments that is mentioned here doesn't specify it to be '10' commandments but when part of the '10' re-surfaced to us, did it re-surfaced because Moses said so or because 'love' said so?

1. You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the first and the great commandment. And the second is like it. You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments hang all the Law and Prophets" (Mat 22:37-40);


2. "And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ" (Rev 12:17).

frosbel:

" You show that you are a letter from Christ, the result of our ministry, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts." - 2 Corinthians 3:3

Once written with ink , now written by the Spirit of GOD on our hearts as :

Correct! What is written on stones brought death and condemnation and what is written in our heart came by the new birth which is by the Spirit of the living God. That is, we become a living carrier of the new law of love unlike stone that is a non-living thing.

frosbel:

"This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel after that time," declares the LORD. "I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people." - Jeremiah 31:33

Regarding the underlined, kindly explain, My LAW , which LAW ?

Again, 'my law' didn't specify it was 10 minus the 1 which some said is the sabbath and gives us 9 to follow . The 'my law' is the 'love' that when is in your heart, you're not going about thinking of hurting another person, lying, killing, committing adultery, bearing false witness.....etc.....after the manner of Moses. It graciously flow from your heart because Grace doesn't follow Do's and Don't, it lives the life of God and God is love.

Do you get it?

Goshen360:

Correct! What is written on stones brought death and condemnation and what is written in our heart came by the new birth which is by the Spirit of the living God. That is, we become a living carrier of the new law of love unlike stone that is a non-living thing.



Again, 'my law' didn't specify it was 10 minus the 1 which some said is the sabbath and gives us 9 to follow . The 'my law' is the 'love' that when is in your heart, you're not going about thinking of hurting another person, lying, killing, committing adultery, bearing false witness.....etc.....after the manner of Moses. It graciously flow from your heart because Grace doesn't follow Do's and Don't, it lives the life of God and God is love.

Do you get it?

Oh yes, I was just about to say we are saying the same thing, albeit in different ways.

Love is the fulfillment of the LAW.

Peace

frosbel:

1. You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the first and the great commandment. And the second is like it. You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments hang all the Law and Prophets" (Mat 22:37-40);


2. "And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ" (Rev 12:17).

Brother,

Relax and take time to read the article I presented up there. All your references to Matthew 22:37-40 was discussed therein. It's like you haven't gone through the article yet though. Take your time bro.

frosbel:

Oh yes, I was just about to say we are saying the same thing, albeit in different ways.

Love is the fulfillment of the LAW.

Peace

Christians obeying or following the 10 commandments ALONE because Moses said so is wrong. There are many things that is sin that Moses did not mention in those 10 minus the 1 called Sabbath and many of say because Christ is the Lord of the Sabbath. If Christ is the Lord of the Sabbath, isn't he also the Lord of the remaining 9s?

This 'love' that is the fulfillment of the law...of Moses is what is deposited on our heart at new birth. It's like the breathe we breath. It's the very life of Christ. It doesn't bear false witness, doesn't commit adultery\fornication, doesn't kill, cheat, slander, hate etc. It is fulfillment of the life of Christ BEYOND a stipulated 10 figures - 1. Do you get the point I'm driving at?

^^^

I think you are still not getting my point.

God has Laws ,those 10 commandments were hand written by GOD on tablets of Stone. We use Moses to differentiate between the era of grace and the era of pre-grace.


God has commandments .

He wrote the 10 commandments .

Those Laws are now written on our hearts .

We obey them through the Spirit .

If we cease to walk after the Spirit we break God's Laws.

^ Frosbel, my post edited. I removed the part you said I said you teach....~over statement~ Kindly edit yours also. Thanks

Goshen360: ^ Frosbel, my post edited. I removed the part you said I said you teach....~over statement~ Kindly edit yours also. Thanks

Done.

Speak later.

frosbel: ^^^

God has commandments .

He wrote the 10 commandments .

Those Laws are now written on our hearts .

We obey them through the Spirit .

If we cease to walk after the Spirit we break God's Laws.

You're right here but to point of but few. The God who wrote the 10 also set aside the 10 in Hebrews. When he re-presented or re-surfaced it to Christians. It was resurfaced as the law of Spirit of LIFE in Christ Jesus. It's beyond 10 now for Christian but the bedrock is LOVE undiluted. Yes, walk in the Spirit..of life, in Christ Jesus and you shall not fulfill the LUST of the flesh....breaking his laws, not of Moses now but law of the Spirit of life.

Before some folks here starts to mis-understand me, this is not to teach lawlessness o. We are not under the law of Moses but under the Grace. The law of Moses is rules by (law of) sin & death but Grace is ruled by (law of) the Spirit of LIFE, in Christ.

haibe:

Like Goshen asked, do you keep the sabath?

Yes, the way Jesus did it. Becareful, the jews may try to judge you or condemn you. Do not let them. It is a day of rest but we can do the works of the Most High. Holiness is holiness.


By the way don't confuse the word rest. There are many words in the bible that look the same. Keep it in context. Remember the bloodshed of david? What did god say about davids son? About peace and rest from what? Jesus told us not to kill. We cannot kill anyone for any reason. We have to pick up our cross as we are persecuted. Could it be rest from bloodshed? Who are we to condemn our neighbor? Live nby the sword. Die by the sword...of God. It is now a sin to live by the sword. We must drink the cup. Read about the cup. Jesus said no more of this. No more killing. Jesus is the way, truth, and life. He kept the sabbath. He is Lord of the sabbath. Obey all ten commandments.

Alwaystrue: WHAT IS SABBATH? TRUE MEANING AND APPLICATION

The Lord of the Sabbath is Jesus Christ. Matthew 12:1-14. He said this when the Pharisees were asking why His disciples were plucking grain in the field and when the Pharisees asked if they can 'work on the sabbath' as a way to bait him.

Sabath means rest just as God rested on the 7th day from all his labours. This is symbolic of what Christ Jesus said in Matthew 11:28, come to me all you who are burdened and heavy laden and I will give you rest. Jesus is the only one who can give rest and that is why He said Sabbath (rest) was made for man and not man for the Sabbath (rest).

Further on, Paul said:


Hebrews 4:1-8
God’s promise of entering his rest still stands, so we ought to tremble with fear that some of you might fail to experience it. 2 For this good news—that God has prepared this rest—has been announced to us just as it was to them. But it did them no good because they didn’t share the faith of those who listened to God .[a] 3 For only we who believe can enter his rest. As for the others, God said,

“In my anger I took an oath:
‘They will never enter my place of rest,’”

even though this rest has been ready since he made the world. 4 We know it is ready because of the place in the Scriptures where it mentions the seventh day: “On the seventh day God rested from all his work.”[c] 5 But in the other passage God said, “They will never enter my place of rest.”[d]

6 So God’s rest is there for people to enter, but those who first heard this good news failed to enter because they disobeyed God. 7 So God set another time for entering his rest, and that time is today. God announced this through David much later in the words already quoted:

“Today when you hear his voice,
don’t harden your hearts.”[e]

8 Now if Joshua had succeeded in giving them this rest, God would not have spoken about another day of rest still to come. 9 So there is a special rest[f] still waiting for the people of God. 10 For all who have entered into God’s rest have rested from their labors, just as God did after creating the world. 11 So let us do our best to enter that rest. But if we disobey God, as the people of Israel did, we will fall .

Does this mean we should not still 'rest' our physical bodies especially. No, because:

Colosians 2:16-17
16 So don’t let anyone condemn you for what you eat or drink, or for not celebrating certain holy days or new moon ceremonies or Sabbaths. 17 For these rules are only shadows of the reality yet to come. And Christ himself is that reality.

The law was the shadow and Christ is the full reality or true expression of that shadow/law that is why He came to give the true meaning/fulfillment of what God meant and backed it up with the law.

So whether you chose to 'rest' on Saturday or Sunday, do it all to the Lord for those that trust in Jesus Christ (The Lord of Sabbath) have received His rest ('sabbath').
That is my contribution based on my understanding of scripture.



For all those who want to understand how Jesus Christ fulfilled the law, please follow this link to study with scriptures..

www.cbcg.org/franklin/SA/SA_fullfilllaw.pdf

Jesus Christ was fulfilling the law while he was alive and whatever he spoke to anyone was in congruece with his father. He spoke what His Father commanded Him to.

John 12:47-49
47 I will not judge those who hear me but don’t obey me, for I have come to save the world and not to judge it. 48 But all who reject me and my message will be judged on the day of judgment by the TRUTH I have spoken. 49 I don’t speak on my own authority. The Father who sent me has commanded me what to say and how to say it.

Goshen360:

You're right here but to point of but few. The God who wrote the 10 also set aside the 10 in Hebrews. When he re-presented or re-surfaced it to Christians. It was resurfaced as the law of Spirit of LIFE in Christ Jesus. It's beyond 10 now for Christian but the bedrock is LOVE undiluted. Yes, walk in the Spirit..of life, in Christ Jesus and you shall not fulfill the LUST of the flesh....breaking his laws, not of Moses now but law of the Spirit of life.

Before some folks here starts to mis-understand me, this is not to teach lawlessness o. We are not under the law of Moses but under the Grace. The law of Moses is rules by (law of) sin & death but Grace is ruled by (law of) the Spirit of LIFE, in Christ.

GOSHEN ARE YOU SAYING EVERY CHRISTIAN IS UNDER GRACE ?

I had to comment on this thread, @goshen360, I respect u as an individual and as somebody who teaches well, but be warned do not go about teaching false doctrines to gullible christians on nairaland, lest the wrath of God fall on u,

Our lord jesus said that it's easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one letter of the law to become invalid,luke 16 v 17, mathew 5 v 18-19, and also apostle paul told us in 2 timothy 3 v 16, that all scripture is inspired by God, so I don't see what all the fuss is about, @goshen the other day you said sex between two unmarried people who are engaged is not a sin, now u have come again, pls be careful of what u teach, cos on the last day heretics would be thrown into the lake of fire,

bolaino: I had to comment on this thread, @goshen360, I respect u as an individual and as somebody who teaches well, but be warned do not go about teaching false doctrines to gullible christians on nairaland, lest the wrath of God fall on u,

Our lord jesus said that it's easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one letter of the law to become invalid,luke 16 v 17, mathew 5 v 18-19, and also apostle paul told us in 2 timothy 3 v 16, that all scripture is inspired by God, so I don't see what all the fuss is about, @goshen the other day you said sex between two unmarried people who are engaged is not a sin, now u have come again, pls be careful of what u teach, cos on the last day heretics would be thrown into the lake of fire,

LMAO. GOSHEN BRINGING IN HERESIES. HE LEADING PEOPLE RIGHT INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE. GOSHEN YOUR SOUL IS REQUIRED FOR BRINGING IN HERESIES

obadiah777: LMAO. GOSHEN BRINGING IN HERESIES. HE LEADING PEOPLE RIGHT INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE. GOSHEN YOUR SOUL IS REQUIRED FOR BRINGING IN HERESIES

lol, no be laffin mata ooo, this is serious, his teachings are becoming more strange everyday, and people could be easily misled if it's not handled properly.

bolaino: lol, no be laffin mata ooo, this is serious, his teachings are becoming more strange everyday, and people could be easily misled if it's not handled properly.

LMAO, GOSHEN HAS LED MORE PEOPLE INTO FIRE IN THIS SECTION THAN ANYONE I KNOW. LMAO. ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT 'WE ARE UNDER GRACE' OR STUFF LIKE ' THE OLD TESTAMENT IS OBSOLETE SO WE HAVE TO FILTER THE OLD THROUGH THE NEW' LMAO.

Just to weigh in here for hopefully the last time, and I mean hopefully .

GOD has commandments made for the Moral preservation and upliftment of MAN.

As Goshen agreed to recently , these commandments are summed up as follows :

"36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”

37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.” - Matthew 22:36-40


Goshen has stated this quite clearly , and while I do not agree with him on a number of issues, I think it is almost slander to try to distort the meaning of what someone has said.

I have noticed impatience and rashness from many of us, who rather than read an article carefully and patiently, pick one or 2 lines and rush to judgement.

I personally do not believe that Goshen is teaching anyone to SIN , and if he ever did , that will be the day we part ways.

Please stop this dishonesty and misrepresenting his position, it is almost malicious.

Finally, if you are a Christian and still practicing SIN , you need to be honest with yourself and assess whether you are truly a Christian or have probably lost your first love.

Nothing that has the taint, stain or pollution of SIN can ever be admitted into the presence of GOD , but the good news is that if we repent , Jesus will cleanse us and give us a new lease of life.

Do not be deceived, " The Soul that SINs shall DIE "

All Christians are actually SAVED by Grace

frosbel: Just to weigh in here for hopefully the last time, and I mean hopefully .

GOD has commandments made for the Moral preservation and upliftment of MAN.

As Goshen agreed to recently , these commandments are summed up as follows :

"36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”

37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.” - Matthew 22:36-40


Goshen has stated this quite clearly , and while I do not agree with him on a number of issues, I think it is almost slander to try to distort the meaning of what someone has said.

I have noticed impatience and rashness from many of us, who rather than read an article carefully and patiently, pick one or 2 lines and rush to judgement.

I personally do not believe that Goshen is teaching anyone to SIN , and if he ever did , that will be the day we part ways.

Please stop this dishonesty and misrepresenting his position, it is almost malicious.

Finally, if you are a Christian and still practicing SIN , you need to be honest with yourself and assess whether you are a truly a Christian or have probably lost your first love.

Nothing that has the taint, stain or pollution of SIN can ever be admitted into the presence of GOD , but the good news is that if we repent , Jesus will cleanse us and give us a new lease of life.

Do not be deceived, " The Soul that SINs shall DIE "

i fully concur with this

Candour: All Christians are actually SAVED by Grace

But grace is not a license to SIN

frosbel:

But grace is not a license to SIN

Exactly my brother

Romans 6:1-2
''What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin,that grace may abound? God forbid..........''

We can't continue in sin because by the help of the Holy Spirit,we are dead to sin.If sin still comes naturally to a professed Christian,he/she needs to check himself.

bolaino: I had to comment on this thread, @goshen360, I respect u as an individual and as somebody who teaches well, but be warned do not go about teaching false doctrines to gullible christians on nairaland, lest the wrath of God fall on u,

Our lord jesus said that it's easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one letter of the law to become invalid,luke 16 v 17, mathew 5 v 18-19, and also apostle paul told us in 2 timothy 3 v 16, that all scripture is inspired by God, so I don't see what all the fuss is about, @goshen the other day you said sex between two unmarried people who are engaged is not a sin, now u have come again, pls be careful of what u teach, cos on the last day heretics would be thrown into the lake of fire,

bolaino: lol, no be laffin mata ooo, this is serious, his teachings are becoming more strange everyday, and people could be easily misled if it's not handled properly.

Did someone hijack your user name (here or or on another thread)?

Otherwise how do you move from being a "freethinker" (possibly meaning atheist?) saying Jesus is fictional in the link below to calling Jesus "lord" on this thread?

https://www.nairaland.com/1240536/ugly-truth-jesus

Enigma:



Did someone hijack your user name (here or or on another thread)?

Otherwise how do you move from being a "freethinker" (possibly meaning atheist?) saying Jesus is fictional in the link below to calling Jesus "lord" on this thread?

https://www.nairaland.com/1240536/ugly-truth-jesus

It get's worse by the day

FROSBEL. YOU DONT BELIEVE GOSHEN IS TELLING ANYONE TO SIN ? WHAT DO YOU THINK THIS IS >>> WE ARE UNDER GRACE ? TELLING THAT TO PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT UNDER GRACE IS LEADING THEM TO SIN. BUT I DIGRESS. LET ME BREAKDOWN THIS GRACE ISSUE ONCE AND FOR ALL SO MAYBE I CAN SAVE A FEW PEOPLE FROM BEING DIVERTED BY GOSHENS HERESIES.

OK FIRST OF ALL, SOME OF THE LETTERS IN THE NEW-TESTAMENT BY PAUL ARE WRITTEN TO SPECIFIC PEOPLE. THESE LETTERS ARE NOT WRITTEN TO THE WHOLE WORLD. THEY DO NOT APPLY TO THE WHOLE WORLD. THE LETTERS REFERING TO GRACE ARE WRITTEN TO THE ELECT. NOT THE WHOLE WORLD.

COLOSIANS 3 VS 12 Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering; <<< THE ELECT, NOT THE WHOLE WORLD. THIS IS WHO MOST OF PAULS LETTERS ARE REFERING TOO. HE IS MOBILIZING THE ELECT AT THAT POINT IN TIME WHO HAD BEEN SPIRITUALLY RESSURECTED AND SEALED ( MATTHEW 27 VS 51 - 53 ) BY CHRISTS DEATH. HE WAS MOBILIZING AND ENCOURAGING THEM AND TELLING THEM THAT THEY HAVE BEEN SAVED BY GRACE.

NOW WHAT IS GRACE ? GRACE MEANS FAVOR. WHAT DID IT MEAN FOR THE ELECT TO BE SAVED BY GRACE ? IT MEANS THE LORD NEEDED WORKERS ON GROUND LEVEL SO HE PICKED THE MOST RIGHTEOUS AMONGST THE LOT ( 144,000 TO BE EXACT ) AND FORGAVE THEM ALL THEIR SINS SO THAT HE CAN SEAL THEM AS HIS REPRESENTATIVES ON EARTH. THESE WOULD BE THE EYE OF THE LORD ON EARTH. THESE ARE HIS WORK-HORSE ON EARTH. THEY ARE HIS NOW. THEY ARE NOW CELESTIAL BODIES NOW AND NO LONGER TERRESTRIAL BODIES. THE FORGIVING OF THEIR SIN IS WHAT IS CALLED GRACE ( HE DID THEM A FAVOR. THATS WHAT GRACE MEANS, FAVOR. NORMALLY YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR YOUR SINS-GALATIANS 6 VS 7, BUT HE DID THEM A FAVOR AND FORGAVE THEIR SINS, THIS IS FAVOR, GRACE ). SO GRACE ONLY HAPPENED TO THE ELECT. THE ELECT WERE SAVED BY GRACE ( MEANING THEY WERE SAVED BY THE LORD DOING THEM A FAVOR WHICH IS PARDONING THEM THEIR SINS ). NOW AS SOON AS THEIR SINS WERE PARDONED AND THEY BECAME CELESTIAL BODIES, IT MEANS THEY ARE NO LONGER SUBJECT TO THE LAWS IMPOSED ON ALL MEN. THE LAWS IMPOSED ON MEN ARE LAWS USED TO BRING CHECKS AND BALANCES TO A SINFUL AND DIABOLIC WORLD. HOWEVER THE ELECT HAVE NOW TRANSCENDED THOSE LAWS AND ARE ABOVE THOSE LAWS. THE ELECT DO NOT HAVE TO FOLLOW LAWS ANYMORE. THEY ARE GUIDED BY THEIR OWN SPIRITS NOW ( ARE THEY PERFECT ? OF COURSE NOT. THEY STILL BATTLE LUSTS JUST AS EVERYONE ELSE BUT WHEN THE NEW COVENANT KICKS IN DURING THE SECOND COMING, THEY WOULD BE MADE PERFECT, MEANING THE LAWS WOULD BE WRITTEN IN THEIR INWARD PARTS, MEANING THEY WOULD NO LONGER BE ABLE TO SIN, MEANING THE CORRUPTIBLE HAS INHERITED INCORRUPTION ). HOWEVER THE ELECT ARE CELESTIAL BODIES AND ARE NO LONGER SUBJECT TO LAWS MADE TO KEEP MEN IN CHECK AND BALANCE.

SO WHAT ABOUT THE REST OF THE PEOPLE ? THE REST OF YOU WHO ARE NOT THE ELECT ARE STILL BOUND BY THE LAWS. DO NOT LET ANYONE TELL YOU ANY DIFFERENT. FOR EXAMPLE, THERE ARE DIETARY LAWS. WHILE THE ELECT CAN EAT ANYTHING AND NOT BE AFFECTED BY IT BECAUSE THEY ARE NOW CELESTIAL BODIES. THEIR BODIES ARE PROTECTED FROM THE DAMAGING EFFECTS OF ABOMINABLE FOODS
COLOSIANS 2 VS 16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: << THE ELECT ARE NO LONGER AFFECTED BY THESE THINGS BECAUSE THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT BODY NOW. THE LORD HAS DONE IT TO WHERE NOTHING ON EARTH CAN AFFECT THEM NOW. THEY ARE MINI-gODS WALKING THE EARTH AMONGST US. THEY ARE NOW CELESTIAL BODIES 1 CORINHTHIANS 15 VS 40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. BASICALLY THE ELECT HAVE 'BULLET-PROOF' BODIES.
NOW IF SOMEONE WHO IS NOT AN ELECT MISTAKENLY READS THAT PART AND THINKS HE CAN EAT ALL KINDS OF MEAT BECAUSE WE ARE UNDER GRACE AND STARTS EATING PORK AND OTHER SCAVENGING ANIMAL, THEY WOULD END UP DISEASED WITH GOUT, HBP, DIABETES, CANCER ETC ETC. THIS IS WHY IT IS IMPORTANT TO LET PEOPLE KNOW YOU ARE STILL UNDER THE LAW. GRACE WAS FOR THE ELECT, NOT THE WHOLE WORLD. THE OTHERS ARE STILL UNDER THE LAW

AND TO END MY RANT, THE LETTERS IN THE NEW TESTAMENT ARE MOSTLY TOWARDS SPECIFIC PEOPLE WHO WERE FELLOW ELECTS OF PAUL.

SAY FOR EXAMPLE IF I PUBLISH A BOOK WITH MOSTLY LETTERS I HAVE WRITTEN TO FROSBEL AND GOSHEN AND IJAWKID AND OLAADEGBU AND DAVIDYLAND AND JESOUL. IF SOMEONE READS THIS BOOK AND STARTS THINKING I HAVE WRITTEN THE LETTERS TO HIM AND I AM REFERING TO HIM, IS THAT NOT CRAZINESS ? LET US LEARN TO BE DISCERNING READERS.

bolaino: I had to comment on this thread, @goshen360, I respect u as an individual and as somebody who teaches well, but be warned do not go about teaching false doctrines to gullible christians on nairaland, lest the wrath of God fall on u,

Our lord jesus said that it's easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one letter of the law to become invalid,luke 16 v 17, mathew 5 v 18-19, and also apostle paul told us in 2 timothy 3 v 16, that all scripture is inspired by God, so I don't see what all the fuss is about, @goshen the other day you said sex between two unmarried people who are engaged is not a sin, now u have come again, pls be careful of what u teach, cos on the last day heretics would be thrown into the lake of fire,

AND TO CONSOLIDATE MY POINT, I WOULD LET THE BIBLE DO THE TALKING

COLOSIANS 2 VS 13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering; <<<< ELECT MEN ONLY. HE SPEAKING TO AND MOBILIZING HIS HOMEBOYS SILVANUS TIMOTHEUS ONESIPHORUS ETC ETC ETC

THE REST OF YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO READ THE LETTERS AS AN INSIGHT INTO HOW THE GOSPEL GOT SPREAD AFTER THE SEALING OF THE FIRST FRUIT. THIS IS AN ACCOUNT OF HOW THE WORD TRAVELLED AND GOT TO YOU TODAY. YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO PUT YOURSELF IN THE PICTURE. ITS AN ACCOUNT OF HOW THE WORD WAS PUSHED BY THE ELECT AND HOW IT EVENTUALLY ENDED UP IN OUR LAPS. THOSE EARLY MEN NEEDED THEIR SINS PARDONED ( GRACE ) IN OTHER TO PUSH THE WORD BECAUSE THE LORD DOES NOT WORK WITH SINNERS. THEY HAD TO BE PARDONED FIRST ( GRACE ). PARDONED AND THEN SEALED.

AND TO THE REST OF US WHO ARE NOT THE ELECT, WHICH JUDGING FROM THE POSTS I HAVE SEEN, I AM GUESSING MOST OF US ARE NOT >>>>> 2 JOHN 1 VS 6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.