chukwudi44:

Thank God st Peter is not dead but alive!! He is no mediator between God and man rather he is a mediator between man and jesus like everyone else.Thank God even a 'dead' elisha could raise the dead by the power of the holy spirit.

Ok

chukwudi44: Luke 20:34-38

New International Version (NIV)

34 Jesus replied, “The people of this age marry and are given in marriage. 35 But those who are considered worthy of taking part in the age to come and in the resurrection from the dead will neither marry nor be given in marriage, 36 and they can no longer die; for they are like the angels. They are God’s children, since they are children of the resurrection. 37 But in the account of the burning bush, even Moses showed that the dead rise, for he calls the Lord ‘the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.’[a] 38 He is not the God of the dead, but of the living, for to him all are alive.”


@Ajibam and ayoku

Was abraham,isaac and jacob reffered to in the passage above dead or alive?

Yeah, they are referred to as alive TO GOD. Luke 20v38 -for TO HIM all are alive. Not to us. They are dead to us.

Everyone is alive to God coz he dwells outside of time. So when someone is on earth, he is alive to God and to men, but when he dies and leaves the earth, he is still alive to God but DEAD TO MEN.

So to us on earth, Peter, Paul etc ARE DEAD. And they will remain so to us until the resurrection. So they cant interceed for us. Only Jesus, the risen Christ can.

Believe that you will believe anything...........

That's great !

Very soon they will come out with a bone telling those my slave brother who have been held captive for long that is Jesus Christ bone... wake up Africans!

chukwudi44:

Bros if you can't answer my questions then I have no business discussing anything with you.


Ignore button activated!!!

Do you even understand what you are saying at all......


U've just fed on man made doctrines all your life...

Try reading ur bible more often...rather than all those novena(s) u read here and there

whjat will his bones do 4 me...

Truely, there is no other name given among men by which we will be saved, except the name of Jesus Christ who abolished death and brought life and imortality through the Gospel. Same Gospel through which the Grace of God was given to us in Christ Jesus before the world began but was revealed at the appearance of the Man Jesus, our Lord and Saviour.

Ignore Him to your own peril or embrace Him to experience the eternal riches of God through forgivenes of sin and salvation of your soul.

Why worship and call on the name of the dead when you have the Living God all to you?

Lost scriptures mentioned in the BIBLE,(1)The book of the wars of the Lord:Num21:14,(2)The book of Jasher,Josh10:13;2sam 1:18,(3)Book of the acts of solomon,1kng11:41,Book of samuel the seer1 chr 29:29,Book of Gad the seer,1chr 29:29,will post more with scripture reference later!pls read also The Book of Mormon another Testament of Jesus the Christ

I'm still seeking dat catholic individual that can quote portions of the bible well....

Most can recite d 14 stations of the cross but to tell u d passage(s) in the bible na wahala

chukwudi44:

Bros I asked you a question above which you did not answer!! Are Abraham,isaac and Jacob which Jesus mentioned in the gospel passage I posted dead or alive? When you answer this question then we can progress

You have made reference to a scripture you quoted out of context. They are alive because they will be part of the age to come! Has that age arrived? definitely not, the age refered to shall be heralded by resurrection.
Again, human by nature are inclined unto winning arguements even when he is sure he is wrong. Biblical issue should not be a debate and each of us should be open to correction 2 Tim 2:23-26; Gal 2:11-14. We show true spiritual maturity by being genuiely open to correction and not pushing biblically unfounded doctrines . The bible says if any man thinks he know ought, he knows not as he should know. This is suppose to the our guide into learning. Let all we uphold as doctrine be x-rayed by what the bible teaches and discards those that are not biblically founded

bad meat: Lost scriptures mentioned in the BIBLE,(1)The book of the wars of the Lord:Num21:14,(2)The book of Jasher,Josh10:13;2sam 1:18,(3)Book of the acts of solomon,1kng11:41,Book of samuel the seer1 chr 29:29,Book of Gad the seer,1chr 29:29,will post more with scripture reference later!pls read also The Book of Mormon another Testament of Jesus the Christ

Are you an LDS member?

When pentecostals say the God of abraham, isaac and jacob dey aint saying dey shuld pray for us like the catholics do bt wat dey mean is dt the God that worked wonders in the life of abraham, isaac and jacob is stil d same and can do greater tins and that is why i like RCCG's motto, the same God today, yesterday and forever.

ayoku777:

The dead can't pray for you. Only Christ can pray for you. Not only is He the risen Christ, He is also the ONLY mediator between God and man. 1Tim 2v5 -For there is one God, and ONE MEDIATOR between God and men, the man CHRIST JESUS.

God bless.

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TELL THEM!
HOW CAN SOME PEOPLE BE DEMONIC OBSTINATE? GLUED TO SATANIC TRADITIONS?

Why is it that u people like to attack the catholic church?u talk of worshiping mary and saint While individually u worship ur pastors who are sinners like me and u. We are christians becos of our faith and belief. The bible says that blessed are those who do not see but believe, so leave the catholics doctrine and their belief and concentrate on ur own belief and doctrine.

I believe there's a way they can use the bones of people to know what they really look like. Can't remember what it's called. Would be really nice to know what Peter looked like!.

MEILYN: Are you an LDS member?

yes

No mata what any1/thing thinks 4 al i care no religion on earth can surpass d Roman Catholic church.

Who else feels the Roman catholic religion is actually.............Mystery Babylon of the book of Revelations?

akd jr: Very soon they will come out with a bone telling those my slave brother who have been held captive for long that is Jesus Christ bone... wake up Africans!

i wonder what they are even doing with those bones. Are there special anointing in those rotten bones? Pls catholic allow those bones to rest in peace abeg. u people are nt dogs. Ok

ayoku777:

The dead can't pray for you. Only Christ can pray for you. Not only is He the risen Christ, He is also the ONLY mediator between God and man. 1Tim 2v5 -For there is one God, and ONE MEDIATOR between God and men, the man CHRIST JESUS.

God bless.

Wats d difference between Jesus and Peter? they're both dead, if Peter can't pray for us, Jesus can't either.
If Jesus can, Peter can as well as my grand father

chukwudi44:

Thank God st Peter is not dead but alive!! He is no mediator between God and man rather he is a mediator between man and jesus like everyone else.Thank God even a 'dead' elisha could raise the dead by the power of the holy spirit.

plz who is God and who is Jesus? Come unto me all ye that labour and are heavy laddened and i will give u rest. peter is dead and the dead cant pray. there is no repentance in the grave. Are u trying to tell me that u cant cry Abba father. are u a servant or son to the throne of grace? Jesus is God and God is the same as Jesus. Do not be carried away by religious tradition or tradition of men that is unbiblical ..... thank u

IDOLATRY...
renewed...
Redefined!

I have learnt alot from this thread from people's comment.

chukwudi44:

Bros I asked you a question above which you did not answer!! Are Abraham,isaac and Jacob which Jesus mentioned in the gospel passage I posted dead or alive? When you answer this question then we can progress

they are alive but are not permitted to pray for anyone. the same reason Abraham was nt permitted to help the richman's family in the story of lazarus and the richman. Only JESUS is the mediator between God and man

WHAT A FIGHT!!! Hey guys, be careful what u say. The bible said u shldn't jugde and both sides are doing just that.

WHAT IS WRONG WITH CHRISTIANS? Always fighting each other. U both believe in Christ and yet, see fight!
What will u say to the Hindu or Moslems who don't believe in Christ Jesus.

)Our life is what God is interested in and not what u think of each other's doctrine.
Remember the story of the Tax collector and the Pharisee. Don't think because u don't believe someone else's doctrin, that u are better than that person before God.

YOU ARE NOT GOD! And u don't know how God thinks. His ways are not ours neither are His thoughts like ours.
Ok, u claim to know the bible, then obey it and stop being judgemental. On that day church or doctrine will not save u but the way u lived ur life in Christ.

What is the highest commandment?[b][/b] LOVE OTHERS AS URSELF. No matter their faults or even their belief.

Better be sorry for not obeying that bible u claim to know which tells u NOT to jugde.

Give ur life to Christ Jesus, NOW!!!

ayoku777:

There is no scriptural reference to this 'revelation'. That Paul and Peter are praying for us. Its a man-made doctrine.

The bible itself is written by men

You don't need any mediator except Christ to intercede on your behave, nor honour them. I need a scripture to convince me that I need(them). They were mere brethren like us. Except if you guys are telling me a have a more better position of office in heaven..
We seem to find it difficult to accept the fact that peter and the other apostles are long dead, and cannot help us. Only the Holy spirit can help us. Guys, you need to study your Bibles and ask God to give you the understanding, not man!

what rubish.let the dead rest in peace.

Ogeam:

Yet Peter can't still pray for you, only Christ can do that! No other person has that ministry but Christ, not mary, not peter, not paul or any other mortal that lived. There is only one mediator between God and man [bold] the man Christ Jesus[/bold]. No man takes this honour (of priesthood) on himself except him that is called. Heb 5:4.

so why can a pastor pray for you ?

Ukuts gp: i wonder what they are even doing with those bones. Are there special anointing in those rotten bones? Pls catholic allow those bones to rest in peace abeg. u people are nt dogs. Ok

i repeat u people are not dogs. Leave the bones of the saint alone