alBHAGDADI:
WHat's wrong with this one?

He said I believe Jesus Immortal, to which I agreed. He proceed to ask if an Immortal being can die for my sins, I simply answered by showing him that he came in the flesh for that purpose. He didn't come as an immortal, otherwise he won't have been able to die.

I now find it funny how you believe I'm confused. Perhaps, it's something else you folks are discussing which is quite different.

Barristter07:

You would see why you are confused now



" Man is an immortal person ( soul ) housed in a body "

Do you agree with the above quote ?

alBHAGDADI:
Is the talk that Jesus made mistake a teaching of JW? If you made the discovery yourself, who else holds the same view?

alBHAGDADI:
Is the talk that Jesus made mistake a teaching of JW? If you made the discovery yourself, who else holds the same view?

very disorganized person , its obvious already .

search4truth:

Why do you think i left a few spaces between the link and the red text? I never implied the red text was from the JW link. It was separate

I see English is your problem.. Don't you know words used in their past, present or future form can render a different meaning to any statement used in?
You said Jesus come in flesh. If you were trying to say he was born as human to save mankind then the proper tense to use is "Jesus Came in flesh" and not Jesus Come in flesh.
Besides the discussion wasn't about How Jesus came as an human to save mankind rather it was about his ressurection form.If you could comprehend well then you shouldn't have brought that up then.
Comprehende?

Forgetfulness is also a problem for you ?

I was responding to this post where you said

" baffling thing is that the JWs don't beleive in the Physical resurrection of Jesus Christ.
Look at what the bibke said about that
1 John 4: 2,3

"2 This is how you know that the inspired statement is from God: Every inspired statement that acknowledges Jesus Christ as having come in the flesh originates with God . 3 But every inspired statement that does not acknowledge Jesus does not originate with God."


Can you now process why I used " Come in the flesh " in my question ? Don't just discuss anyhow like a disorganized file, Learn to follow the tone of the discussion.

My position on the meaning was proved with John 1:14 as well .

As for your taking it to mean resurrection in flesh, that's pure comprehension problem on your part . the apostle was testifying to his having come in flesh when he born by a woman .

I have nothing to prove to you.
Go do your research on the subject. I know your GB does not encourage research outside the organization.

Barristter07:
very disorganized person , its obvious already .



Busted! Next time indicate your source of gibberish, so the users would know where you are copying and pasting from is not the website you claimed .



Forgetfulness is also a problem for you ?

I was responding to this post where you said

" baffling thing is that the JWs don't beleive in the Physical resurrection of Jesus Christ.
Look at what the bibke said about that
1 John 4: 2,3

"2 This is how you know that the inspired statement is from God: Every inspired statement that acknowledges Jesus Christ as having come in the flesh originates with God . 3 But every inspired statement that does not acknowledge Jesus does not originate with God."


Can you now process why I used " Come in the flesh " in my question ? Don't just discuss anyhow like a disorganized file, Learn to follow the tone of the discussion.

My position on the meaning was proved with John 1:14 as well .

As for your taking it to mean resurrection in flesh, that's pure comprehension problem on your part . the apostle was testifying to his having come in flesh when he born by a woman .





next time just say " I have no idea " . instead of writing the above nonsense

TATIME:
You're talking with more intelligence than that IDIOT jare! So back to your question, must someone confirm it before a competent Christian could come out and prove it otherwise?(1) Jesus asked his father to turn away the cup that has been predestined before His birth which He has already know how everything will go,please explain how that is not a mistake and why He immediately concluded "your will not mine be done" if that is not to correct Himself because to me the question sounds like "daddy,do you think it's OK like this?" (2) Thugs came to arrest Him and He answered in a powerful utterance so that those coming to arrest Him all fell backwards TO THE GROUND, please why such powerful blow on the arresters?(3)On the stake He said "my God,my God why have you forsaken me?",please has God ever forsaken any of HIS loyal ones more or less "HIS only begotten son"? Those are the Bible quotations and i am saying those are mistakes due to the power of the FLESH, He Himself said " the SPIRIT is willing but the FLESH is weak" due to the condition of His Apostles! And Satan(who lived together with Jesus in heaven before for thousands of years) came to tempt Him, of course Satan won't try that if Jesus can't err "in the flesh". End of the story. So go and tell all your Pastors that a Bible student claims that Jesus made mistakes "in the flesh" or keep quiet if you can't do anything to the equation. This is mature food for mature Christians not for those who thinks Jesus is God Almighty "who is above mistakes".

Barristter07:
very disorganized person , its obvious already .



Busted! Next time indicate your source of gibberish, so the users would know where you are copying and pasting from is not the website you claimed .



Forgetfulness is also a problem for you ?

I was responding to this post where you said

" baffling thing is that the JWs don't beleive in the Physical resurrection of Jesus Christ.
Look at what the bibke said about that
1 John 4: 2,3

"2 This is how you know that the inspired statement is from God: Every inspired statement that acknowledges Jesus Christ as having come in the flesh originates with God . 3 But every inspired statement that does not acknowledge Jesus does not originate with God."


Can you now process why I used " Come in the flesh " in my question ? Don't just discuss anyhow like a disorganized file, Learn to follow the tone of the discussion.

My position on the meaning was proved with John 1:14 as well .

As for your taking it to mean resurrection in flesh, that's pure comprehension problem on your part . the apostle was testifying to his having come in flesh when he born by a woman .





next time just say " I have no idea " . instead of writing the above nonsense

alBHAGDADI:


I asked a simple question, instead of you to give a simple answer, you are going about stating the same things we've argued about.

Once again,

Is the talk that Jesus made mistake a teaching of JW? If you made the discovery yourself, who else holds the same view?

Hairyrapunzel:


This one that says Jesus Christ came in 1914 invisibly and only Rutherford saw him giving the command that watchtower publishing company is his one and only organization. Lol

How did Rutherford see Jesus in 1914 sef?

TATIME:
Sorry you're ignorant of the topic of discuss in this podium and the accusations of the critics. You only saw JWs and decided to join in the argument without knowing the motives of the commentators. For your information, the critics here are agitating that JWs ONLY believes whatever our GB (who can err on doctrinal matters and organisational directions) published in our publications. But i as a member now declared what the watchtower has NEVER published before with references from the Bible with 100% conviction to prove these critics wrong! So you can see why your question is INVALID regarding what is on ground. What you can do now to help them is disprove the claim WITH REFERENCES from the Bible so that they can have something to say because now they've been silenced as they can't say "it's from the watchtower publications" neither can they say "why must you thing separately" since that has been their agitation from the beginning. :

TATIME:
Can you now see the reason why you're truly a "GOOD FOR NOTHING IDIOT"? You've always agitated that relying ONLY on the publications from the Watchtower is wrong and that been a member of a religious group does not guarantee salvation. OK i made a PERSONAL research and publicly declared that Jesus as perfect as He is made mistakes "in the flesh",instead of a correction if the need be or commendation if you have thought over the points presented from the scriptures, you're now calling members of JW to confirm the discovery from a PERSONAL BIBLE STUDY of one of their members! FOR WHAT PURPOSE? So that you can now say "JWs said" After i said "this can't be found in any of the organization's publications right from the 1870s till today". If you're not a GOOD FOR NOTHING IDIOT like a chameleon, are you in support of Christianity base on PERSONAL study or Christianity based on been a member of a group?

alBHAGDADI:

Have you presented your findings to the JWs or the 8 old men in GB?

What did they say about it?

Or you just kept it to yourself, but came here to parrot it like it has always been the believe of JW, the Apostles and all the Christians that lived before now?

TATIME:
This is to help a Christian to know how powerful the FLESH is when you're trying to concentrate on the things of the SPIRIT! Of course the Apostles shared the same believe otherwise Apostle John won't have said in his second letter that anyone who didn't believe that Jesus came "in the flesh" is the Antichrist! 2John 7 Perhaps you need to go back and make a thorough research as to how Apostle Paul explained the power of the FLESH! Romans 7:1-25 pay rapt attention to verses 21-25.

achorladey:



I was wondering initially why should I respond. Asking questions and answering questions all by your own at the same time. You know what that means.......after YOU na YOU. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!

"Oga" that go after GOOD FOR NOTHING IDIOTS I have already answered your questions.

TATIME:
You're not relevant as you try to prove since you failed to maintain your stand on your agitation.

alBHAGDADI:
Give simple answers, instead of saying what the Apostles never said.

If that is what the Apostles believed also, then why are you afraid of telling GB about this your finding?

Hairyrapunzel:


See as e dey pain am. Sorry no lala land/paradise earth. Take heart you hear?

TATIME:
The GB has been my TEACHER from day one,so don't think i now know more than them because if not for them i wouldn't have responded to the insensibility of those claiming Christians without the WORKS to show for their professed faith. So it's on the bases of the teachings i received from them that i discovered more SPIRITUAL GEMS And if you don't agree that Jesus Christ came "in the flesh" it's OK, as for me i agreed that He did that was why He fought a lot of battle against His the flesh till death,laying a foundation for me also to follow His footsteps CLOSELY so that i too can become a conqueror in the battle against this powerful enemy "flesh". Jesus was "in the flesh" was an equivalent of Adam (the first man) according to the Bible Adam made mistakes because of the flesh but instead of turning around he blamed God for giving him a wife. That was what Jesus NEVER did,instead He always acknowledged that His father's decision is the best. Sorry as i've told you that this is for mature Christians not for those who don't even know the foundation of the faith called CHRISTIANITY.

alBHAGDADI:


I'm glad you used mistake to qualify Adam's sin, which means mistake also means sin in a certain context. According to you, Jesus was better than Adam because Adam failed to turn around after making mistake. In essence, what you are saying is that the mistakes you claim Jesus made are sins as well. But look at what the Bible says below.

2 Corinthians 5:21
21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

Now, according to you, how come a sinner died for our sins? What you are saying in essence is that God presented a sinner to die for the sins of mankind. Isn't that a mad thing to say as someone who claims to be Christian?

You say this discovery s not what GB taught you, but somethings they taught you led to it. For you to believe this is true and that the Apostles also hold the same view, how come you are yet to tell GB about it? Or are they the only one commissioned to bring out Biblical discoveries?

You not telling them shows you doubt it as well. Perhaps you are scared of excommunication.

TATIME:
Indisputably we all know that Jesus has a congregation,during His Revelations to John Jesus pointed to the errors in each of them as they are meeting together as smaller groups or congregations (Revelations 1:4) meaning there is no congregation without errors. The problem now is how to IDENTIFY those who are also gathering people (as congregations or churches) just to enrich themselves.If you don't know the features of true Christianity, how will you know those who are disguising themselves as Apostles of Christ. 2Corinthians 11:12-15 You and your friends have been able to single out Jehovah's Witnesses as a false religious group but i wonder why you're now having the problems to IDENTIFY those that a sincere and honest hearted person can associate with for continuous insight. Or should we conclude that it's ONLY the Jehovah's Witnesses that are false Christians when all the others are true? Keep deceiving yourselves.

alBHAGDADI:
If man is an immortal person, how come you JW say man seizes to exist as soon as he dies?

Comprehension oooo!!!

A quote was given and I asked , do you agree with it ?

achorladey:


Did you answer mine? After showing you how those pertinent questions applies to your own organisation you adhered to, did you respond? The post are not far off go and check?

Someone has asked again whose congregation is Jesus head over? Is it the congregation that its founder want to be seen as CHRISTIANS or the one that the person succeeding the founder want to be known as JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES that appeared late in the 19th century and that kept evolving into the early 20th century that even its founder will not readily identify or which one?

You backed TATIME that JESUS makes mistake in the Flesh too?

As regards the congregation christ is head over. I have answered that repeatedly

Your case of course can never be the one to be pitied.

alBHAGDADI:
WHat's wrong with this one?

He said I believe Jesus Immortal, to which I agreed. He proceed to ask if an Immortal being can die for my sins, I simply answered by showing him that he came in the flesh for that purpose. He didn't come as an immortal, otherwise he won't have been able to die.

I now find it funny how you believe I'm confused. Perhaps, it's something else you folks are discussing which is quite different.

Barristter07:



Comprehension oooo!!!

A quote was given and I asked , do you agree with it ?

Barristter07:



Comprehension oooo!!!

A quote was given and I asked , do you agree with it ?

achorladey:



search4truth created a thread code named:

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES BELIEVED THEY ARE THE ONLY TRUE CHRISTIANS PLEASE COME IN

Obviously you(TATIME) is a JW that is why you come in to join the discussion.

Your first post did not address the issues listed by search4truth but immediately you entered defensive mode by saying.........

August 16 at 8:05am
TATIME: So before you can say anything worth considering as in a change of heart for a dedicated member of the organization, you must first have a BETTER group to present as another option!

Achorladey: Obviously you are not ready to go against the notion that Jws are the only true Christian. I dont think search4truth is after setting up another organisation or even raising one above the other. But come........

August 22 at 2:56pm
TATIME: There is no CONGREGATION without errors.

Achorladey: These words are found in the post am responding to now. Which several others including myself have brought to your notice that, even the GB admit to making mistakes and errors in organisational direction and doctrinal matters.

FOOD FOR THOUGHT.......... is CHRISTIAN CONGREGATIONS of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES under the leading of the GB of JEHOVAH'S ORGANISATION ERROR FREE?

With these words, search4truth and every other person can ask........Is Jehovah's witnesses believe that they are the only TRUE CHRISTIANS correct?

Of course you don't expect a GOOD FOR NOTHING IDIOTS to answer that.

The thread was never created to identify better alternative. You(TATIME) is the individual forcing it into the thread.

Barristter07:


in translation to English, Other is used to make emphasis or clarify a point intended by the Author of the Greek Material in translation
Many versions insert other at various places for emphasis .


So the accusations AlbhagdadI paste there lacks Credibility. Coming from a man who is too intellectually lazy to know what El Gibbor mean

Barristter07:



Comprehension oooo!!!

A quote was given and I asked , do you agree with it ?

alBHAGDADI:

Is Jesus not the same person talking below? Yet you say Jesus never said this... he never said that.

JOHN 5:23
That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.

Jozzy4:


Lolzzzzzzzzzzzzz

So Jesus is not an immortal soul ?