shadeyinka:

They speak a version of Yoruba!
It's very difficult to comprehend but the similarity is very high.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQBG_0ShlUs

Check this out

Cc: compton11

They only use this language as a liturgical language. It is not an everyday spoken language in Brazil.

GermanPoison:
they can speak yoruba very well

OK bro,do video call with one of them and confirm.

Nowenuse:


Santeria is the one practiced in Cuba. The one in Brazil has another name, however, both are very similar and are offshoots of mostly yoruba culture (however, not entirely yoruba).

candomble and santeria

Mo ki yin pupo eyin Omo Oduduwa. These are the descendants of the children of my great grand parents who were victims of the then American slave trade in the 18th century from Oduduwa region of today's Nigeria. I am happy they still maintain the language and culture and tradition of Oduduwa. Today Yoruba is the most spoken African language in the world .Aside from Brazil , Yoruba is well spoken in U S , Cuba and some part of Russia. There are department of Yoruba studies in some part of U S and Russian Universities. These is not to even talk of Benin Republic , Togo Ivory coast and some of other countries like that. For further checks go to the Oxford dictionary and check for the word YORUBA.
Oodua, adupe ,your inherited language is now part of world spoken language.

Igbobyblood:
same way Yoruba or Igbo might become a minority in the future.

The Benin's are doing everything to bring those distant cousins under one umbrella.

It will take time but it will happen

Bro, I am neither yoruba or Igbo, I am from a minority, but to tell u the truth. The Edo unity project to group all the Edoid peoples as one large majority ethnic group will never work.
The British colonizers were the ones who created the 3 major tribes and it stays that way forever.

Esan, Etsako, Urhobo & Isoko of today are all very divided and too ambitious on their own to ever return to a Benin umbrella. It will never happen anymore.
The time it would have been able to happen was decades ago, had it been all Edo groups were able to come together under Bendel/Midwest, form a common central dialect, everybody learns it and promote it's wide usage in official status, by now about 20 million Edoid people would have had a common language that unites them. Today that is already impossible. Pidgin has taken over.

Today, many northern minorities are becoming Hausanized. I am from Plateau state, my people are very similar in languages and cultures with each other and with neighbours like Southern Kaduna, Nasarawa, Taraba, South Bauchi & Adamawa tribes, the British had the power to unite us as one large majority ethnic group, but they never did, instead they tried to Hausanize us by forcing us under Hausa-fulanis.
The only reason we have managed to escape Hausanization is because we are christians and u know Hausanization thrives on islam.

superstar1:


Read your history the first Oba of Benin is Oranmiyan and he even renamed Benin to the present name.

Ogisos dynasty is dead and dead forever. Our Obaship reign supreme in Benin.

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what about his father,is he not from the ogiso dynasty look the binis have existed even before they Begin to see the obas dy have now,so it very wrong for you to say oramiyan is the first king or oba of the binis, somebody gave birth to his father sir

omohz:


oga keep quite , oranmiya is the son of izoduwa who you guys call oduduwa, he was a banish prince who ran to ile-ife , get your face right , the first rulers of benin are the ogiso

Oranmiyan is no son of any Izoduwa.

And Oduduwa is not the same as any fraudulent Izoduwa, Imoduduwa, or Ekaladerhan that y'all can't even agree on his name.

Provide me any authoritative and world-renowned historical source that supports your Izoduwa desperation.

You get your facts right!

TAO11:


The Ogisos were not Obas. They were simply Igisos from Igodo to Owodo.

even when they where not name obas but the have ruled bini kingdom before the coming of the obas we see today,infact the ogiso dynasty gave birth to the dynasty to the current oba rulership,even if they where not call oba at that time,you tell me the meaning of OGISO

walexy100:


A friend of mine from Delta State was speaking a particular Yoruba dialect that shares similarity with Ilaje; he asked me to guess the language and I said Itshekiri. He said no it's Lukumi. I was speechless because I always thought Itshekiri is the language similar to Yoruba in Delta State.

Yes, there are yoruba speaking villages in the midst of Delta north. They are gradually being Igbonized. They were 5 towns in the past, today 3 of these towns have been Igbonized and lost their yoruba language, only 2 are still able to speak yoruba. They are called 'Olukumi' people.

amstardi:
you called these people yoruba?. white men?

Lol, they are not really full whites. They have a lot of African ancestry, they are only mixed.

arazanbal:


even when they where not name obas but the have ruled bini kingdom before the coming of the obas we see today,infact the ogiso dynasty gave birth to the dynasty to the current oba rulership,even if they where not call oba at that time,you tell me the meaning of OGISO

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Thank God you just admitted Oranmiyan is the first OBA of Benin.

And OGISO means SKY-KING (from: OGIE and ISO). In other words the INDIGENOUS EDO word for KING is "OGIE" not "OBA".

This again confirms that the word " OBA" for king is alien to EDO lexicon.

Which again supports the fact that:

Oranmiyan is the first " 'OBA' of BENIN"

YourNemesis:


Most so called "White" people in Brazil would be at lest 7-10% Black if they went for a DNA test.

Hahaha, it's higher than that. The majority of white people in Brazil have at least 30% Black African DNA according to studies, except the newer European settlers of the 20th century immigrations to Southern Brazil.

grandstar:


You may have a point.

There was this white American supremacist who was soon to learn he was 14.8% black. Worse, he learnt this on a show on television

Serves him right. I'm black and proud.

I think I saw a study somewhere which claims that at least 30% of white Americans have a significant Black African ancestry (10%) and above

femolii:
Mumu of the year who is speaking Benin in ondo or ekiti state pls receive sense.

There are Edo speaking tribes scattered aclcross 5 LGA in Ondo state. I'm not sure about Ekiti.

gregyboy:

oduduwa was a benin prince and he was not a god as the yoruba presumed him to be

No, Oduduwa was not a Benin prince.

That's is simply a Benin lie which was first propagated in the amateurish revision of S. B. Omoregie in his 1970 "Edo History"

Cite me one (just one) authoritative world renowned historian who agrees with the modern Benin lie that Oduduwa is Ekaladerhan.

You will find none!

saajus:


They speak Lacumi. Lacumi is a form of Yoruba that has been influenced by Spanish. What really surprised me is how they keep the culture for hundred of years.

They were late slave arrivals of about 200 years ago and they were heavily concentrated in one area, this helped them easily maintain their culture. They were not mixed and seperated based on languages as was the case with earlier arrivals of slave ships elsewhere in other parts of the Americas.

ofwest47:
Mo ki yin pupo eyin Omo Oduduwa. These are the descendants of the children of my great grand parents who were victims of the then American slave trade in the 18th century from Oduduwa region of today's Nigeria. I am happy they still maintain the language and culture and tradition of Oduduwa. Today Yoruba is the most spoken African language in the world .Aside from Brazil , Yoruba is well spoken in U S , Cuba and some part of Russia. There are department of Yoruba studies in some part of U S and Russian Universities. These is not to even talk of Benin Republic , Togo Ivory coast and some of other countries like that. For further checks go to the Oxford dictionary and check for the word YORUBA.
Oodua, adupe ,your inherited language is now part of world spoken language.

Bro calm down, Yorubas are a great African race and language no doubt, but pls they are nowhere close to being the most spoken African language in the world.
Where did you put Swahili, Hausa, Somali and Amharic?

Yoruba is not even an official language in any country.

Smaller African languages like Zulu, Xhosa, Luganda, Kinyarwanda-Kirundi, Tswana, Lingala, Wolof e.t.c have the ability to last longer and be more influential than yoruba because all of these languages have official statuses in their respective countries and their children are taught to read and write first in these languages from their childhood before learning English/French.

How many yoruba children today can read, write and understand standard yoruba perfectly in Nigeria today?

gwinaB:


Historical, Awori owns most part of Lagos except the Island which belonged to the Binis but not even the whole of it

Aworis own the Island too.

In fact the Island was their first settlement when they first arrived in the Lagos region from Ile-Ife.

It wasn't until at least a century later before the foreign Bini invaders joined them on their Island settlement.

Although the foreign Bini invaders' monarchy was later sacked by the indigenous Yoruba people after their fourth Bini rule.

shadeyinka:

They speak a version of Yoruba!
It's very difficult to comprehend but the similarity is very high.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQBG_0ShlUs

Check this out

Cc: compton11

It's not a different version, it's actually the normal traditional yoruba version, which we have gradually changed over a long time here, we don't use some certain words again when we talk here again, because of modernity e.g thank you - eshewun (traditional yoruba) is now eshe (modern day) but those with historical links still use those words - other then that, the problem is intonation - most south American countries were composed mainly of red indians and they had their own language prior to africans being shipped there as slaves, inter-racial marriages actually made most of the blacks loose their mother tongue which was now replaced with Spanish - if we can filter the Spanish from their tongues, that is perfect yoruba - it's more closer then igbo and yoruba

Nowenuse:


They only use this language as a liturgical language. It is not an everyday spoken language in Brazil.

I didn't claim that:
All I stated was that it is a language, and it is very similar to our Nigerian Yoruba.

Sundaygeorge:
What is the name of the tribe...in Brazil,that descend from Yoruba

lol, jamb question.

The people am seeing her not Yoruba's.

gwinaB:

How did he trace it? What is the meaning of Oranmiyan in Yoruba?

Listen to Oba Ewuare II when he also agrees with the Yorubas that:

Oranmiyan is the first Oba of Benin and that he is from Ile-Ife.

Refer from time 13:22 to time 13:41


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXvXupQwaz0

Also, Oranmiyan in Yoruba means:

My problem is solved.

Oran-mi = My problem, my issue, or my crime, etc.

Yan = Solved or resolved.

I'm not sure what you need the meaning for, but that's it.

Thanks!

TAO11:


No, Oduduwa was not a Benin prince.

That's is simply a Benin lie which was first propagated in the amateurish revision of S. B. Omoregie in his 1970 "Edo History"

Cite me one (just one) authoritative world renowned historian who agrees with the modern Benin lie that Oduduwa is Ekaladerhan.



You will find none!

So were is oduduwa from ....was he the founder of the youruba race was he the first king who is oduduwa to yorubas letd know that before we discuss his arrival

gwinaB:



What does Oduduwa mean?

Decree (or power) which brings forth existence!

I'm still unsure what you would use all these meanings for.

But certainly it's good to always learn.

olajide8:


It's not a different version, it's actually the normal traditional yoruba version, which we have gradually changed over a long time here, we don't use some certain words again when we talk here again, because of modernity e.g thank you - eshewun (traditional yoruba) is now eshe (modern day) but those with historical links still use those words - other then that, the problem is intonation - most south American countries were composed mainly of red indians and they had their own language prior to africans being shipped there as slaves, inter-racial marriages actually made most of the blacks loose their mother tongue which was now replaced with Spanish - if we can filter the Spanish from their tongues, that is perfect yoruba - it's more closer then igbo and yoruba

Thanks so much. Even in Nigeria, there are Yoruba dialects much different from the standard Oyo dialect that we all use. Some are incomprehensible for day to day use. So, one can just imagine what happens when a language (of varying dialects collides with a foreign language like Spanish)

Are You a Nigerian but live in Brazil?

Some people are of the opinion that lukumi is just a mere liturgical language eg nowenuse

gregyboy:


So were is oduduwa from ....was he the founder of the youruba race was he the first king who is oduduwa to yorubas letd know that before we discuss his arrival

I expected the question: where then is Oduduwa from if he's not from Benin? Lol!

You had been long brainwashed into believing in the false idea that people can only be from Benin or nowhere else.

Well, to answer your question:

Oduduwa is from Ile-Ife

And the Yoruba race is several millennials before Oduduwas will ever be conceived.

Although, he later became the first person to unify all the many 13 or 15 Ile-Ife kingdom states under one political rule.

He became the first central king of Ile-Ife in addition to all the kings of the different states that have long existed in Ile-Ife.

shadeyinka:

Thanks so much. Even in Nigeria, there are Yoruba dialects much different from the standard Oyo dialect that we all use. Some are incomprehensible for day to day use. So, one can just imagine what happens when a language (of varying dialects collides with a foreign language like Spanish)

Are You a Nigerian but live in Brazil?

Some people are of the opinion that lukumi is just a mere liturgical language eg nowenuse

I am a Nigerian, and I stay here in nigeria, but my uncle is married to a Brazilian of this ethnic extract, I cannot honestly say if it is spoken as a liturgical language thou, but I know she didn't find it too hard understanding our yoruba and you can actually feel her own wrong intonation when she speaks yoruba too

olajide8:



I am a Nigerian, and I stay here in nigeria, but my uncle is married to a Brazilian of this ethnic extract, I cannot honestly say if it is spoken as a liturgical language thou, but I know she didn't find it too hard understanding our yoruba and you can actually feel her own wrong intonation when she speaks yoruba too

That's beautiful!
Stay blessed!

arazanbal:


even when they where not name obas but the have ruled bini kingdom before the coming of the obas we see today,infact the ogiso dynasty gave birth to the dynasty to the current oba rulership,even if they where not call oba at that time,you tell me the meaning of OGISO

Was there anytime the yourbas called thier kings oba if not during the time of the British that made it a renowed title for kings in southern western part of nigeria the britsh changed the king of lagos titled from eleko of eko to oba of lagos which was wrong. the other yorubas adopted the names to refer to as “kings" oba was simply a name coined by eweka he never had a father who stayed with him to give him a title ...the truth here is oba was spread to the west by the britsh because of similarities the British saw with the edo prople and yoruba people and again it was difficult pronouncing most of their titles so to make it easy They call them obas as they knew some of this kings in the west trace thier origin to benin regardless of thier titles, so many benin traditions and words that have become general like that of
The benin head dress
The red beads which is significant to be benins alone
The festac mask
Pounded yam and eguisi
Words like ikebe= ass ,aza= bank so many not to mention people use most of these words and culture not knowing they have origin

ovieigho:

Oranmiyan was not the first oba of Benin
After owodo there was no capable person to lead the Benin kingdom, note: even before owodo there have been Kings that ruled Benin kingdom(igodomigodo)

So the kingmakers sent emissaries to oduduwa in ile ife ( one of their sons anyways)
So oduduwa gifted them oranmiyan who gave birth to eweka.

Oduduwa did not sound like a yoruba name
If you know
Ozoduwa
Izoduwa
Ereduwa
Adesuwa
You will know even oduduwa migrated from benin

Ekaladerhan is the name of the only son of Ogiso Owodo, not Izoduwa, or Idoduwa, or Imadoduwa.

The Benin revisionists can't even agree on a name.

Ekaladerhan was banished from Igodomigodo to Ughoton where he lived and died. This is the fact agreed by all respected and world renowned historians.

The later Benin revision that Ekaladerhan is Oduduwa is ahistorical and comedic.

No respected historian takes the theory serious cos it's a joke.

S. B. Omoregie injected a lie into Edo history. He attempted to overturn Egharevba's 1930s account which historians all over the world have upheld because of its redoubtable historicity.

omohz:


during the ogiso dynasty, igodo stretched. from ughotton , to present day warri and present day okene.

You lied!

Ughoton wasn't founded until the end of the Ogiso dynasty when Ekaladerhan was banished.

In fact, during the last few years of the reign of the last Ogiso when Ekaladerhan founded Ughoton after his banishment; Ughoton existed as a separate and independent settlement.

It wasn't until well into the time of the Oba dynasty that the village of Ughoton became absorbed into the new expanding kingdom, i.e. Benin kingdom.