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Re: Benin Own Ife Bronze by SirNewtonNG: 7:16am On Jan 06, 2022
abulude:



I disagree that the history of Yoruba was falsely attached to the Benin for political relevance by the Whites. Your claims are not only irrational, baseless but also laced with sentiments. I would love you to furnish me with literatures and references to back up your unsubstantiated claims. Why would the Whites favour the Yorubas history over the Benin? What makes the Yorubas so special to them? I hope you know that most historical literature about the Benin and the Yoruba were mostly written before Nigeria independence, some before Nigeria was even formed? The word Ile Ibinu (Land of Anger) later corrupted to Benin is a Yoruba word and was coined by Odede. Likewise, the word Ewomika (my hand has reached it) later corrupted to Eweka is a Yoruba phrase. The royal house of Benin, Oyo, Ile-Ife, etc, are all related by blood. Even the Ibini Royalties never dispute or deny this (except commoners like you). I noticed that many of you that often meddle in Benin/Ife issue are not even from Benin. Being from Edo state doesn't mean you're a Benin.

In ancient times, there are tribes, clans and kins all over Africa some of which are related by blood, marriage or via common ancestral relatedness and cultural similarities. It was the creation of countries and states that divided us as a people. For instance, the Okuns, Ijebus, Ijesha, Aworis, Ibadans, Sarkis, Itsekiris, etc, are all kins. The first people to be called the Yorubas are the Oyos (Katunga). Although in recent times, the word Yoruba is used to refer to people with ancestral link to Ile Ife. The Oyos have a great empire that extended from the bank of River Niger to Ibadan and westward into Dahomey and parts of Togo, just as the Ibini empire extend eastward to parts of Niger Delta. Mind you, the Oyos are great people with an organized system of government just as the Ibinis. So, why would they need the Benin to be called great people? Meanwhile, these two great empires (Oyo and Benin) were founded by the same person Odede (also known as Emperor Oranmiyan) the son of Odu'a, the great king of Ile Ife. Invariably, the royalties of Oyo, Ile-Ife, Ibini, Eko, Ijesha, etc, are kins.

In modern era, the Yorubas are known to be educated, intelligent, exposed and are pace-setters, so why would they need anyone to validate them? Politically, the Yorubas need more of its population, education and expose to be relevant not an attachment with Benin. No matter how much you try, you can't change history. To break your heart, I would like to inform you that the Benins just like the Oyos were great in the past not anymore. I get am before no be property.












This guy is crazy. At least unlike his brothers he accepts the truth that's why he decides to rip every connection apart completely. Very laughable. I feel for him knowing full well the oba is a yoruba man. I mean oba is etymological yoruba anyways

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Re: Benin Own Ife Bronze by SirNewtonNG: 7:19am On Jan 06, 2022
valirex:



Lol you dey mind the clown grin grin their Oni when woman no dey last for him hand, him wife don divorce am grin grin

I heard na the 3rd woman dry divorce am grin grin
When an argument is lost, the loser descends into ad hominems and red herrings. What does the ooni private life have to do with anything. Id this some sort of consolation hahaha

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Re: Benin Own Ife Bronze by SirNewtonNG: 7:21am On Jan 06, 2022
gregyboy:



Follow my thread on my profile


The Yorubas started the attachment to benin history in 1820 benin sort to attach to the Yoruba history in 1920 for political reasons . But choose not to anymore but the Yorubas are still hell bent to attach themselves and leach on our history

No one cares about your history but when you come to tell lies. We'll always be here to debunk them i.e this very thread and the initial topic which has been well debunked hence why you moved on to your main goal which is to massage a battered who and denigrate yoruba people. Take heart my friend

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Re: Benin Own Ife Bronze by saddler: 7:24am On Jan 06, 2022
SirNewtonNG:

When an argument is lost, the loser descends into ad hominems and red herrings. What does the ooni private life have to do with anything. Id this some sort of consolation hahaha

It doesn't matter that Yoruba revisionists are more on nairaland and when you all come together to say the same thing even if incorrect, lies, or half-truths.

I guess this makes all of you feel good that you are in greater numbers and anything anyone of you says will be supported by all of you.

It doesn't change the truth from what it is. An argument won on nairaland doesn't mean you were right
Re: Benin Own Ife Bronze by valirex: 8:56am On Jan 06, 2022
SirNewtonNG:

When an argument is lost, the loser descends into ad hominems and red herrings. What does the ooni private life have to do with anything. Id this some sort of consolation hahaha

Ask the boy you call Oni grin grin
Re: Benin Own Ife Bronze by macof(m): 8:56am On Jan 06, 2022
saddler:


It doesn't matter that Yoruba revisionists are more on nairaland and when you all come together to say the same thing even if incorrect, lies, or half-truths.

I guess this makes all of you feel good that you are in greater numbers and anything anyone of you says will be supported by all of you.

It doesn't change the truth from what it is. An argument won on nairaland doesn't mean you were right

Lmao keep quiet
Present facts and logic

Arguments are never won with numbers but facts and logic

You have none and you know none exist but you prefer to still be delusional that even in the absence of any facts from you and presentation of the facts by others, you are somehow the one who is still correct
Better take it easy, that's how mental problems start

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Re: Benin Own Ife Bronze by macof(m): 8:59am On Jan 06, 2022
valirex:


Ask the boy you call Oni grin grin
Anger and frustration at your lack of any facts and logic grin
Insulting Yoruba obas when no Yoruba insults the omonoba

You can tell you lot still lack maturity and all this is just a tantrum

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Re: Benin Own Ife Bronze by valirex: 9:02am On Jan 06, 2022
macof:

Anger and frustration at your lack of any facts and logic grin
Insulting Yoruba obas when no Yoruba insults the omonoba

You can tell you lot still lack maturity and all this is just a tantrum


Oga maturity extend this maturity to your Oni he needs it more grin
Re: Benin Own Ife Bronze by macof(m): 11:47am On Jan 06, 2022
valirex:



Oga maturity extend this maturity to your Oni he needs it more grin
have you finished expressing your frustration and pains?

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Re: Benin Own Ife Bronze by valirex: 3:08pm On Jan 06, 2022
macof:
have you finished expressing your frustration and pains?


Your Oni is hiding his face in shame kai, no woman wants him grin grin
Re: Benin Own Ife Bronze by SirNewtonNG: 11:48pm On Jan 06, 2022
saddler:


It doesn't matter that Yoruba revisionists are more on nairaland and when you all come together to say the same thing even if incorrect, lies, or half-truths.

I guess this makes all of you feel good that you are in greater numbers and anything anyone of you says will be supported by all of you.

It doesn't change the truth from what it is. An argument won on nairaland doesn't mean you were right

Ok man smiley can you give me an evidence of the revisionism?? Someone makes a claim of our bronzes. Evidence is presented that the bronzes are much older with full facts yet you call that revisionism? Accounts from the 16th to 19th century are presented yet you call that revisionism
Which is more revisionist, a 1968-1978 change in the story of ekaladerhan or is it your 2020 revision that no connection happened at all between ife and benin or older accounts from oral history and even eye witness accounts of the relationship between ife and benin recorded down. You think the chiefs who gave egharevba his information were not alive during adolor time or his predecessor and didn't have any connection with ife??

See how dumb you guys are. You claim the argument is won yet you say the truth. So what truth anymore. You have already admitted the argument was won. So I'm wondering is it that you guys have a predetermined conclusion and make up lies along the way. Well keep coming up with them as they'll keep being debunked. I still like your sect of benin apoligist at least you don't attempt to tell lies on the origin of Oduduwa like your brothers.

But abeg bros get brain. Benin people and benin kingdom are great. Enough of this mental gymnastics and shenanigans.

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Re: Benin Own Ife Bronze by SirNewtonNG: 11:51pm On Jan 06, 2022
valirex:



Your Oni is hiding his face in shame kai, no woman wants him grin grin

Pathetic grin grin I feel for you. Is this how much Tao12 has dealt with you guys. Ooni who has women all over him. Or you think the previous issues wasn't about the amount of women flocking around him and guess what the Olori(you lot stole this word grin) is back

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Re: Benin Own Ife Bronze by SirNewtonNG: 11:52pm On Jan 06, 2022
macof:

Anger and frustration at your lack of any facts and logic grin
Insulting Yoruba obas when no Yoruba insults the omonoba

You can tell you lot still lack maturity and all this is just a tantrum

Omo noba is our son. His name says it all. He is oranmiyan son so we can't disrepect him even though this children of anger sometimes tempt us. They're completely loyal to him hence the mental gymnastics. It would be better they send him back to ife so they can have some peace undecided grin

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Re: Benin Own Ife Bronze by valirex: 7:54am On Jan 07, 2022
SirNewtonNG:


Pathetic grin grin I feel for you. Is this how much Tao12 has dealt with you guys. Ooni who has women all over him. Or you think the previous issues wasn't about the amount of women flocking around him and guess what the Olori(you lot stole this word grin) is back


Eya Oni go just dey one place dey reason the way you dey disgrace am without thinking grin
Re: Benin Own Ife Bronze by SirNewtonNG: 10:24am On Jan 07, 2022
valirex:



Eya Oni go just dey one place dey reason the way you dey disgrace am without thinking grin

Mumu you plunder into worse disgrace. Look at how dad gone we are from the topic. Me i just dey have fun now. Doesn't our son omo oba ewu a re(a yoruba name meaning trouble has ceased) also have multitudes of women he's married to? grin abeg. The ife overlord is only trying to be moderate but things happen. It's allowed. He is overlord of benin anyways wink

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Re: Benin Own Ife Bronze by valirex: 12:12pm On Jan 07, 2022
SirNewtonNG:


Mumu you plunder into worse disgrace. Look at how dad gone we are from the topic. Me i just dey have fun now. Doesn't our son omo oba ewu a re(a yoruba name meaning trouble has ceased) also have multitudes of women he's married to? grin abeg. The ife overlord is only trying to be moderate but things happen. It's allowed. He is overlord of benin anyways wink


See as this one is in serious pain grin
Oni has been rejected by all females grin
Oya begin to wail grin
Re: Benin Own Ife Bronze by SirNewtonNG: 1:00pm On Jan 07, 2022
valirex:



See as this one is in serious pain grin
Oni has been rejected by all females grin
Oya begin to wail grin
You are the one wailing because you are a slave to the yoruba omo Noba our son. And a slave to our civilization. Don't you see you can't actually do without us. The ooni has a sway of women with him. The wife's he officially married were jealous hence the rifts but the current one is back. That's what happens to overlords. Your overlord is in ife man. Be careful before another oromiyan or ogedemgbe is sent to deal with you all amd civilize you

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Re: Benin Own Ife Bronze by valirex: 4:15pm On Jan 07, 2022
SirNewtonNG:

You are the one wailing because you are a slave to the yoruba omo Noba our son. And a slave to our civilization. Don't you see you can't actually do without us. The ooni has a sway of women with him. The wife's he officially married were jealous hence the rifts but the current one is back. That's what happens to overlords. Your overlord is in ife man. Be careful before another oromiyan or ogedemgbe is sent to deal with you all amd civilize you


Lol see epistle grin

See as this one is in serious pain grin
Oni has been rejected by all females grin
Oya begin to wail grin
Re: Benin Own Ife Bronze by SirNewtonNG: 2:50am On Jan 08, 2022
valirex:



Lol see epistle grin

See as this one is in serious pain grin
Oni has been rejected by all females grin
Oya begin to wail grin

Of course nothing else to say cheesy e pain you. You are the wailer slave to our son the omo noba. Cry!
Re: Benin Own Ife Bronze by valirex: 7:09am On Jan 08, 2022
SirNewtonNG:


Of course nothing else to say cheesy e pain you. You are the wailer slave to our son the omo noba. Cry!

Serious pain grin
Oni has been rejected by all females grin
Oya begin to wail grin
Re: Benin Own Ife Bronze by SirNewtonNG: 7:44am On Jan 08, 2022
valirex:


Serious pain grin
Oni has been rejected by all females grin
Oya begin to wail grin
Pele slave to our son the omo noba grin grin angry grin
Re: Benin Own Ife Bronze by valirex: 8:41am On Jan 08, 2022
SirNewtonNG:

Pele slave to our son the omo noba grin grin angry grin


Lol no more epistles again grin
This one is in serious pain grin
Oni has been rejected by all females grin
Oya begin to wail grin
Re: Benin Own Ife Bronze by SirNewtonNG: 10:15am On Jan 08, 2022
valirex:



Lol no more epistles again grin
This one is in serious pain grin
Oni has been rejected by all females grin
Oya begin to wail grin

And you are forever a slave to our yoruba omo noba. Keep crying. You are a loser. You no get points again. Insecure edo people suffering from minority syndrome. Disgrace you leave argument focus on ooni marriage. Ooni wey dey ball. Ooni wey oba of benin dey pray to every morning. You'll keep crying I'm here for you slave grin
Re: Benin Own Ife Bronze by valirex: 10:44am On Jan 08, 2022
SirNewtonNG:


And you are forever a slave to our yoruba omo noba. Keep crying. You are a loser. You no get points again. Insecure edo people suffering from minority syndrome. Disgrace you leave argument focus on ooni marriage. Ooni wey dey ball. Ooni wey oba of benin dey pray to every morning. You'll keep crying I'm here for you slave grin

M*mu don start epistle grin grin
This one is in serious pain grin
Oni has been rejected by all females grin
Oya begin to wail grin
Re: Benin Own Ife Bronze by SirNewtonNG: 1:28pm On Jan 08, 2022
valirex:


M*mu don start epistle grin grin
This one is in serious pain grin
Oni has been rejected by all females grin
Oya begin to wail grin

Slave to the yoruba king of edo our son, the omo noba are you done with your work grin grin keep crying
Re: Benin Own Ife Bronze by gregyboy(m): 3:55pm On Jan 08, 2022
SirNewtonNG:


Slave to the yoruba king of edo our son, the omo noba are you done with your work grin grin keep crying

Where did you come from i think before you start a conversation with intellectual like is you must first be vast in both benin and Yoruba history

Youre not your just barking like a stray dog.. Please respect we scholars
Re: Benin Own Ife Bronze by SirNewtonNG: 4:59pm On Jan 08, 2022
gregyboy:


Where did you come from i think before you start a conversation with intellectual like is you must first be vast in both benin and Yoruba history

Youre not your just barking like a stray dog.. Please respect we scholars

You that Cc Tao12 has humiliated to stupor. You scholar?? �� Same bigot who has written away any ife benin connection. I should actually take you serious. You are a clown who has nothing but jealousy and hate hence your delusions. I have nothing to engage with you only to further re echo your humiliation in the hands of Tao12

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Re: Benin Own Ife Bronze by valirex: 5:28pm On Jan 08, 2022
SirNewtonNG:


Slave to the yoruba king of edo our son, the omo noba are you done with your work grin grin keep crying

Lol no more epistles again grin
This one is in serious pain grin
Oni has been rejected by all females grin
Oya begin to wail grin
Re: Benin Own Ife Bronze by SirNewtonNG: 6:10pm On Jan 08, 2022
valirex:


Lol no more epistles again grin
This one is in serious pain grin
Oni has been rejected by all females grin
Oya begin to wail grin

Slave to the yoruba king of edo the omo noba are you done with your work grin grin keep crying

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Re: Benin Own Ife Bronze by gregyboy(m): 10:39pm On Jan 08, 2022
SirNewtonNG:


Slave to the yoruba king of edo our son, the omo noba are you done with your work grin grin keep crying


Sure everyone wants to claim the father of a wealthy child without fact but little coincidence they can dig up

The question you should be asking is the edo and Yoruba history really routed in history or just a mere propaganda
Re: Benin Own Ife Bronze by valirex: 12:03am On Jan 09, 2022
SirNewtonNG:


Slave to the yoruba king of edo the omo noba are you done with your work grin grin keep crying

Lol no more epistles again grin
This one is in serious pain grin
Oni has been rejected by all females grin
Oya begin to wail grin

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