gregyboy:



Sure everyone wants to claim the father of a wealthy child without fact but little coincidence they can dig up

The question you should be asking is the edo and Yoruba history really routed in history or just a mere propaganda

Mr man you've been embarrassed severally. I don't understand how a record of over 500 years is propaganda. That's crazy! Especially when you literally have no evidence or anything academic or scholarly. It's embarrassing. Nigeria is what is making people like you insecure about some ancient history. You feel sad that a descendant of what is now yoruba a major ethnic group in the contraption called Nigeria once brought civilization and keeps ruling you. You think it's a coincidence that from the late 1960s to 1970s that oba erediauwa in an attempt to assert some form of independence for his people and some pride as a distinct group began to re write stories of over 500 years?? Ekaladerhan who died in ughatan all of a sudden became oduduwa, some even said oranmiyan. All this to assertions that the kingship has some paternal edo link. Nigeria happened and the British did whatever they liked. They increased the difference between groups and that's what you are suffering from. In the olden days( mostly pre colonial and even pre European contact) Kingdoms went against each other, yes between some kingdoms there was shared heritage like for instance oyo, ijebu, ijesha, ife and benin. They knew this but the idea of ethnicity wasn't ingrained. So the benin kings could proudly know where they came from and pay respect to ife while at times they could be in conflict with other kingdoms from ife. Same as the other yoruba kingdom states. In the past the bini palace was bi linguistic. The lingua franca was lukumi(ancient yoruba) and was spoken by many of Bini people both with ife ancestry and core bini people that's why there's so much inter relationship and why today's bini language has some yoruba dipped in many bini names have yoruba prefixes and suffixes.

And as to your spurious claims no one actually cares. It's usually bini people with crazy threads and on YouTube and on every media space trying to show some form of superiority with you being the leader here on nairaland, i mean this ridiculous thread was started by you and the question has been shown to be a lie and another attempt by you to show superiority. Only that your position is completely alien to what your compatriots say who don't deny the obvious relationship but turn it on its head, infact i somehow respect your position because at least you are not telling lies about Oduduwa and oranmiyan whether you believe they are real or not but at the end of the day your goals is similar to them at its core; you lot are trying to feel independent and unique in a nigerian space that has highlighted differences between groups. And that's why in the face of so much evidence you on one hand deny any relationship which is absurd the others try to turn any relationship on its head as emanating from bini

valirex:


Lol no more epistles again
This one is in serious pain
Oni has been rejected by all females
Oya begin to wail

Slave to the yoruba king of edo our son, the omo noba are you done with your work keep crying

SirNewtonNG:


Mr man you've been embarrassed severally. I don't understand how a record of over 500 years is propaganda. That's crazy! Especially when you literally have no evidence or anything academic or scholarly. It's embarrassing. Nigeria is what is making people like you insecure about some ancient history. You feel sad that a descendant of what is now yoruba a major ethnic group in the contraption called Nigeria once brought civilization and keeps ruling you. You think it's a coincidence that from the late 1960s to 1970s that oba erediauwa in an attempt to assert some form of independence for his people and some pride as a distinct group began to re write stories of over 500 years?? Ekaladerhan who died in ughatan all of a sudden became oduduwa, some even said oranmiyan. All this to assertions that the kingship has some paternal edo link. Nigeria happened and the British did whatever they liked. They increased the difference between groups and that's what you are suffering from. In the olden days( mostly pre colonial and even pre European contact) Kingdoms went against each other, yes between some kingdoms there was shared heritage like for instance oyo, ijebu, ijesha, ife and benin. They knew this but the idea of ethnicity wasn't ingrained. So the benin kings could proudly know where they came from and pay respect to ife while at times they could be in conflict with other kingdoms from ife. Same as the other yoruba kingdom states. In the past the bini palace was bi linguistic. The lingua franca was lukumi(ancient yoruba) and was spoken by many of Bini people both with ife ancestry and core bini people that's why there's so much inter relationship and why today's bini language has some yoruba dipped in many bini names have yoruba prefixes and suffixes.

And as to your spurious claims no one actually cares. It's usually bini people with crazy threads and on YouTube and on every media space trying to show some form of superiority with you being the leader here on nairaland, i mean this ridiculous thread was started by you and the question has been shown to be a lie and another attempt by you to show superiority. Only that your position is completely alien to what your compatriots say who don't deny the obvious relationship but turn it on its head, infact i somehow respect your position because at least you are not telling lies about Oduduwa and oranmiyan whether you believe they are real or not but at the end of the day your goals is similar to them at its core; you lot are trying to feel independent and unique in a nigerian space that has highlighted differences between groups. And that's why in the face of so much evidence you on one hand deny any relationship which is absurd the others try to turn any relationship on its head as emanating from bini

And why have you not yet be banned for insulting your father as a stray dog

You will never get my mention never on nairaland seems you're on drugs

gregyboy:


And why have you not yet be banned for insulting your father as a stray dog

You will never get my mention never on nairaland seems you're on drugs

Truth hurts. Look at this hypocritical idiot. You insulted me first when i never adressed you. I directed you to your father and gave you facts on why you are so insecure and feel inferior and you are crying. Pele o. We are proud of our yoruba son omo oba nedo may he continue to rule over the the bini people. Cry everyday

gregyboy:


And why have you not yet be banned for insulting your father as a stray dog

You will never get my mention never on nairaland seems you're on drugs

Truth hurts. Look at this hypocritical idiot. You insulted me first when i never adressed you. I directed you to your father and gave you facts on why you are so insecure and feel inferior and you are crying. Pele o. We are proud of our yoruba son omo oba nedo may he continue to rule over the the bini people. Cry everyday

SirNewtonNG:


Slave to the yoruba king of edo our son, the omo noba are you done with your work keep crying

Lol no more epistles again
This one is in serious pain
Oni has been rejected by all females
Oya begin to wail

valirex:


Lol no more epistles again
This one is in serious pain
Oni has been rejected by all females
Oya begin to wail

Tied and bounded to my yoruba omonoba. The tears are sweet ��

SirNewtonNG:


Tied and bounded to my yoruba omonoba. The tears are sweet ��

See this mπmu just dey wake up


This one is in serious pain
Oni has been rejected by all females
Oya begin to wail

valirex:



See this mπmu just dey wake up


This one is in serious pain
Oni has been rejected by all females
Oya begin to wail

Whos the mumu. It's The one forever in bondage to a yoruba king who has ruled his little kingdom for a 1000 years. Hurray to my omonoba

SirNewtonNG:


Whos the mumu. It's The one forever in bondage to a yoruba king who has ruled his little kingdom for a 1000 years. Hurray to my omonoba

Lol mumu dey ask question
more epistles again
This one is in serious pain
Oni has been rejected by all females
Oya begin to wail

valirex:



Lol mumu dey ask question
more epistles again
This one is in serious pain
Oni has been rejected by all females
Oya begin to wail

Whos the mumu. It's The one forever in bondage to a yoruba king who has ruled his little kingdom for a 1000 years. Hurray to my omonoba 

SirNewtonNG:


Whos the mumu. It's The one forever in bondage to a yoruba king who has ruled his little kingdom for a 1000 years. Hurray to my omonoba 

Lol no more epistles again
This one is in serious pain
Oni has been rejected by all females
Oya begin to wail

valirex:


Lol no more epistles again
This one is in serious pain
Oni has been rejected by all females
Oya begin to wail

Whos the mumu. It's The one forever in bondage to a yoruba king who has ruled his little kingdom for a 1000 years. Hurray to my omonoba

SirNewtonNG:


Whos the mumu. It's The one forever in bondage to a yoruba king who has ruled his little kingdom for a 1000 years. Hurray to my omonoba 

Lol no more epistles again
Ọba don become him king serious pain
Oni has been rejected by all females
Oya begin to wail

valirex:


Lol no more epistles again
Ọba don become him king serious pain
Oni has been rejected by all females
Oya begin to wail

Whos the mumu. It's The one forever in bondage to a yoruba king who has ruled his little kingdom for a 1000 years. Hurray to my omonoba. Forever may the omonoba rule his slvs

SirNewtonNG:


Whos the mumu. It's The one forever in bondage to a yoruba king who has ruled his little kingdom for a 1000 years. Hurray to my omonoba. Forever may the omonoba rule his slvs

Lol no more epistles again
Ọba don become him king serious pain
Oni has been rejected by all females
Oya begin to wail

valirex:


Lol no more epistles again
Ọba don become him king serious pain
Oni has been rejected by all females
Oya begin to wail

(1) The Edos who were still roaming stark n@ked without shame in as recent as the early-1900s.

Refer to the 1st attachment from page 24 of H.L. Roth(1903).

(2) I mean, there are many things you don't know, but an interesting one which I would love to highlight for you is the following from page 103 of H.L Roth(1903):

"Lieut. King found that “the king can sell his subjects when convicted of crime, or when they have incurred his displeasure." The royal right of abuse seems to have survived to the last days, for Gallwey (p. 129) mentions that “the Benin people are free, but are treated as slaves by the king, the title of king's slave being considered an honour." We have seen above that for different reasons the king claimed male children, widows and slaves belonging to deceased subjects; he could hardly get much more, so that the mass of the people were practically slaves to the king, and those who were not to the king were so to their chiefs."

Please note that the Yoruba King of Benin wouldn't have considered you Edos as slaves if he was truly an Edo like you all. 

Moreover, he has the right of royal abuse to sacrifice any of you his slaves to Yoruba gods of Benin as is seen in the 2nd attachment. 

(3) Refer to my comment found at the link below for refutation:

https://www.nairaland.com/5910322/olokun-worship-indigenous-benin-other/1#90502447

Also refer to my point (2a) at my comment found at the link below:

hhttps://www.nairaland.com/5846195/benins-owners-ogboni-confraternity/12#90501582

SirNewtonNG:



(1) The Edos who were still roaming stark n@ked without shame in as recent as the early-1900s.

Refer to the 1st attachment from page 24 of H.L. Roth(1903).

(2) I mean, there are many things you don't know, but an interesting one which I would love to highlight for you is the following from page 103 of H.L Roth(1903):

"Lieut. King found that “the king can sell his subjects when convicted of crime, or when they have incurred his displeasure." The royal right of abuse seems to have survived to the last days, for Gallwey (p. 129) mentions that “the Benin people are free, but are treated as slaves by the king, the title of king's slave being considered an honour." We have seen above that for different reasons the king claimed male children, widows and slaves belonging to deceased subjects; he could hardly get much more, so that the mass of the people were practically slaves to the king, and those who were not to the king were so to their chiefs."

Please note that the Yoruba King of Benin wouldn't have considered you Edos as slaves if he was truly an Edo like you all. 

Moreover, he has the right of royal abuse to sacrifice any of you his slaves to Yoruba gods of Benin as is seen in the 2nd attachment. 

(3) Refer to my comment found at the link below for refutation:

https://www.nairaland.com/5910322/olokun-worship-indigenous-benin-other/1#90502447

Also refer to my point (2a) at my comment found at the link below:

hhttps://www.nairaland.com/5846195/benins-owners-ogboni-confraternity/12#90501582

Lol like your mãmã wen dey n@ked for 3rd mainland bridge

valirex:



Lol like your mãmã wen dey n@ked for 3rd mainland bridge

Haha [left][/left] That one touch you. You stop copying and pasting. If any one's mam*a will be naked it's yours as apart from being slv!s of my omo nkba they're also known prostuts. Long may the yoruba king rule the bini ppl, his slvs. You will cry today. I'm here for you. Come again.

SirNewtonNG:


Haha [left][/left] That one touch you. You stop copying and pasting. If any one's mam*a will be naked it's yours as apart from being slv!s of my omo nkba they're also known prostuts. Long may the yoruba king rule the bini ppl, his slvs. You will cry today. I'm here for you. Come again.

Your mama wen dey n@ked for 3rd mainland bridge make she con read am

Lol no more epistles again
Oni has been rejected by all females
Oya begin to wail

valirex:


Your mama wen dey n@ked for 3rd mainland bridge make she con read am

Lol no more epistles again
Oni has been rejected by all females
Oya begin to wail

"Lieut. King found that “the king can sell his subjects when convicted of crime, or when they have incurred his displeasure." The royal right of abuse seems to have survived to the last days, for Gallwey (p. 129) mentions that “the Benin people ... are treated as slaves by the king, the title of king's slave being considered an honour." ... the mass of the people were practically slaves to the king, and those who were not to the king were so to their chiefs."

Reference: H.Ling Roth (1903), p.103.

Food For Thought: A king NEVER regards his subjects as his slaves IF he truly belongs to the same ethno-linguistic group as them.

Abieyuwa N'ovbi Oodua N'Uhe ghato kpere ... Ise!

Long may you reign, [Oh] son of the wealthy Oodua of Ife ... Amen!

Oya begin to wail. This is the obvious reality that you have only bn a slv to the yoruba oba for 1000 years. This same yoruba oba is the Son of the great revered stool of ife. Cry tears

valirex:


Your mama wen dey n@ked for 3rd mainland bridge make she con read am

Lol no more epistles again
Oni has been rejected by all females
Oya begin to wail

Whos the mumu. It's The one forever in bondage to a yoruba king who has ruled his little kingdom for a 1000 years. Hurray to my omonoba who has the binis forever tied to him

SirNewtonNG:


Whos the mumu. It's The one forever in bondage to a yoruba king who has ruled his little kingdom for a 1000 years. Hurray to my omonoba who has the binis forever tied to him

Lol no more epistles again?
Ọba don become him king serious pain
Oni has been rejected by all females
Oya begin to wail

valirex:


Lol no more epistles again?
Ọba don become him king serious pain
Oni has been rejected by all females
Oya begin to wail

"Lieut. King found that “the king can sell his subjects when convicted of crime, or when they have incurred his displeasure." The royal right of abuse seems to have survived to the last days, for Gallwey (p. 129) mentions that “the Benin people ... are treated as slaves by the king, the title of king's slave being considered an honour." ... the mass of the people were practically slaves to the king, and those who were not to the king were so to their chiefs."

Reference: H.Ling Roth (1903), p.103.

Food For Thought: A king NEVER regards his subjects as his slaves IF he truly belongs to the same ethno-linguistic group as them.

Abieyuwa N'ovbi Oodua N'Uhe ghato kpere ... Ise!

Long may you reign, [Oh] son of the wealthy Oodua of Ife ... Amen!

valirex:


Lol no more epistles again?
Ọba don become him king serious pain
Oni has been rejected by all females
Oya begin to wail

Whos the mumu. It's The one forever in bondage to a yoruba king who has ruled his little kingdom for a 1000 years. Hurray to my omonoba who has the binis forever tied to him

SirNewtonNG:


Whos the mumu. It's The one forever in bondage to a yoruba king who has ruled his little kingdom for a 1000 years. Hurray to my omonoba who has the binis forever tied to him

Lol no more epistles again na questions mumu dey ask now
Ọba don become him king serious pain
Oni has been rejected by all females
Oya begin to wail

valirex:

Lol no more epistles again na questions mumu dey ask now
Ọba don become him king serious pain
Oni has been rejected by all females
Oya begin to wail

Whos the mumu. It's The one forever in bondage to a yoruba king who has ruled his little kingdom for a 1000 years. Hurray to my omonoba who has the binis forever tied to him

valirex:

Lol no more epistles again na questions mumu dey ask now
Ọba don become him king serious pain
Oni has been rejected by all females
Oya begin to wail

"Lieut. King found that “the king can sell his subjects when convicted of crime, or when they have incurred his displeasure." The royal right of abuse seems to have survived to the last days, for Gallwey (p. 129) mentions that “the Benin people ... are treated as slaves by the king, the title of king's slave being considered an honour." ... the mass of the people were practically slaves to the king, and those who were not to the king were so to their chiefs."

Reference: H.Ling Roth (1903), p.103.

Food For Thought: A king NEVER regards his subjects as his slaves IF he truly belongs to the same ethno-linguistic group as them.

Abieyuwa N'ovbi Oodua N'Uhe ghato kpere ... Ise!

Long may you reign, [Oh] son of the wealthy Oodua of Ife ... Amen!

SirNewtonNG:


Whos the mumu. It's The one forever in bondage to a yoruba king who has ruled his little kingdom for a 1000 years. Hurray to my omonoba who has the binis forever tied to him

Lol no more epistles again na questions mumu dey ask now
Ọba don become him king serious pain
Oni has been rejected by all females
Oya begin to wail

valirex:


Lol no more epistles again na questions mumu dey ask now
Ọba don become him king serious pain
Oni has been rejected by all females
Oya begin to wail

Whos the mumu. It's The one forever in bondage to a yoruba king who has ruled his little kingdom for a 1000 years. Hurray to my omonoba

valirex:

Lol no more epistles again na questions mumu dey ask now
Ọba don become him king serious pain
Oni has been rejected by all females
Oya begin to wail

Whos the mumu. It's The one forever in bondage to a yoruba king who has ruled his little kingdom for a 1000 years. Hurray to my omonoba

valirex:


Lol no more epistles again na questions mumu dey ask now
Ọba don become him king serious pain
Oni has been rejected by all females
Oya begin to wail

Whos the mumu. It's The one forever in bondage to a yoruba king who has ruled his little kingdom for a 1000 years. Hurray to my omonoba