omo alaro:



I can go on and on and on citing examples of obvious contradictions in the bible.
God definitely can not be an author of confusion inspiring two different people with different messages on the same topic. But most men are deaf, dumb and blind they would never understand.

DARA1234:

@Evil Brain
, that was the thing that made me start losing my faith. What first struck  me was what a horrible, horrible person the old testament god was. He was cruel, petty vindictive, bloodthirsty, mean, killed people almost randomly for no good reason, and was basically the opposite of what I thought a decent person should be

This and the rest of your post is an example of how NOT to write a reflective article or statement, it has no base, no foundation, no source, please go back to the bible you read as an 8 year old read it again now that I presume you are an adult, reference the events that happened exactly as it is in the BIBLE come back and then we would have an INTELLIGENT discussion of the issues,

I am not a Christian. In my discussions of this fact
with Christians, I
have repeatedly run into one major
misunderstanding. The Christians assume
that if I believed the Bible were true, I would
become a Christian; that is, they believe that my reason for not being a
Christian is that I don't
believe in their god. This is not the case. One disclaimer: The thesis of this essay is that even
if a God as described
in the Bible does exist, he is not fit for worship due
to his low moral
standards. Consequently, I speak sometimes as if I
did believe the Bible, when in fact I do not. If I had undeniable proof of the existence of
Yahweh, aka Jehovah, aka
Adonai, aka El Shaddai, aka Yahweh Elohim, the
father of Jesus and the
ancient leader of the Semitic peoples, I still would
not worship the bastard. If an angel appeared to me and removed
my appendectomy scar so I
could never deny the reality of divine power, I still
would not be a
Christian. My primary reason for not being a
Christian or Jew has nothing to do with my lack of belief in their god. My primary
reason is that the
Bible is a disgusting book describing the behavior
of a god without the
morality of an average high school student. That God does what he wants, when he wants,
without even an attempt at
self-justification, and all for what reason? According
to Paul, all for his
own greater glory. Oh, how charming. For his own
glory he condemns billions to eternal torment, drowns millions of
innocent beasts and
thousands of children, orders the slaughter of
entire cities down to the
last man, woman, and child, creates a race that he
knows is flawed and will hurt itself (so that in their pain they can worship
him better), refuses to
deal with any other god on a friendly basis, restricts
the normal expression
of the sexual function, rains doom on those who
dare to try to be as knowledgable as he is, and so on. Jesus preaching love in no way atones for these
many hideous crimes; lest we
forget, it was at the time of Jesus that he created
Hell. This cruellest of
all concentration camps (certainly far worse than
the ones created by the Nazis) was at no time mentioned in the Old
Testament, and the wrathful and
threatening god of the Old Testament would hardly
have omitted any chance to
terrify his worshippers. I have heard some Christians who believe that
there is no everburning Hell
in their religion, that the "lake of fire" is purely
destructive, that
sinners will be annihilated rather than tortured after
the Last Judgment. Sometimes, they claim that medieval Catholics
created that "myth", and that
they would revile any god who made this
concentration camp. Well, get ready to start reviling then. The myth of
Hell was not created in
the Middle Ages. It is explicitly stated in a set of
books called the
Synoptic Gospels, you know, the ones by Matthew,
Mark, and Luke. Since some people don't seem to be very familiar with these
books, usually considered
the cornerstone of Christianity, I'll fill them in. Matthew 18:8-9 has Jesus saying, "If your hand or
your foot should cause you
to sin, cut it off and throw it away: it is better for you
to enter into
life crippled or lame, than to have two hands or two
feet and be thrown into eternal fire." A little while later, in 18:34-35 to be
exact, Jesus
finishes up a parable about an unforgiving debtor
with: "And in his anger
the master handed him over to the torturers till he
should pay all his debt. And that is how my heavenly Father will deal with
you unless you each
forgive your brother from your heart." Not clean
killing -- you will be
handed over to the torturers. In the parable of the
wedding feast, Matthew 22:1-14, Jesus concludes with "Then the king said
to the attendants, 'Bind
him hand and foot and throw him out into the dark,
where there will be
weeping and grinding of teeth.'" The king didn't
say, "Execute him", but bind him and throw him into a painful place. This is
echoed in Mat. 24:51,
in almost the same words, and again in Mat. 25:30,
again with similar words.
Finally (for Matthew), we have Mat. 25:41-46, on
the Last Judgment. "Next he will say to those on his left hand, 'Go away from
me, with your curse
upon you, to the eternal fire prepared for the devil
and his angels, And
they will go away to eternal punishment, and the
virtuous to eternal life.'" My point is proven, so I won't bore you with the
quotes from Mark and Luke;
however, check out Mark 9:43, Mark 9:48-49, Luke
13:27-28, and Luke
16:23-26 if you still doubt. You hear a lot from Christians about Yahweh's
"infinite compassion and
mercy". Tell it to the Midianites. Numbers 31 is a
classic example of
wholesale slaughter and rape under the direction
of Yahweh. A sample of this delightful tale: "They waged the campaign
against Midian, as Yahweh had
ordered Moses, and they put every male to death,
The sons of Israel took
the Midianite women captive with their young
children, and plundered all their cattle, all their flocks and all their goods. They
set fire to the
towns where they lived and all their
encampments, Moses was enraged with
the commanders of the army , who had come back
from this military expedition. He said, 'Why have you spared the life
of all the women? ,
So kill all the male children. Kill also all the women
who have slept with
a man. Spare the lives only of the young girls who
have not slept with a man, and take them for yourselves.'" Yes, friends,
this is infinite mercy
and compassion for you. I particularly like the way
that Moses got upset
with them for sparing women and male children,
but allowed the young girls to be kept for later raping. If only humans could
keep to such lofty
standards without the necessity of divine
revelation. I could go on for quite a while in this vein. I don't
think the firstborn
in Egypt during the captivity would have agreed
with the verdict of
compassion and mercy (Ex. 11:5,12:29),
particularly since it was due to Yahweh's hardening of Pharoah's heart in the first
place that made this
neccessary. Also, with omnipotence, Yahweh could
have teleported the Jews
out of captivity without bloodshed, or put the
Egyptians to sleep while they left, but no. That wouldn't be gory and exciting
enough for him. Then there are the charming instructions about
women taken in war, from
Deut. 21:10-14. And there is Deuteronomy
28:20-46, a long stream of
invectives and curses straight from the prophet's
mouth, all about the nasty things Yahweh will do if you upset him a tad. The
entire book of Joshua is
a long sequence of atrocities. I have not given all
these quotes for space
reasons -- I urge you to look them up for yourself.
If you are not shocked, then your moral standards must be low indeed. Of course, you will sometimes hear rationalizations
of this slaughter.
There are two major forms: the corruption
argument and the mercy argument.
The former says that those slaughtered were evil
and deserving of their fate; the latter says that since they were religiously
incorrect, it was a
mercy to terminate their existence. The corruption argument simply does not hold up.
The people slaughtered in
the Old Testament were almost uniformly blameless
(with a few exceptions, of
course -- for instance, the Sodomites violated the
conventions of hospitality.) Usually, no justification is offered
beyond the fact that
since they were of another tribe, it was OK to kill
them. As to the mercy argument: They shoot horses, don't
they? However, people
are not animals to be destroyed against their will in
the name of mercy. If
I don't claim to be suffering, and don't ask to die,
neither you nor any god has the right to decide that you know better. If you
tried to do this to
me, I would shoot you; if a god tried, well, the only
weapon I would have
would be withholding my worship. Most of us, given omnipotence, would be able to do
a far better job than
Yahweh. What would you do if given omnipotence?
If your answer is anything
other than "abolish world hunger", there's
something more than a little skewed in your perception of mankind. There is no
question that this is the
greatest evil in the world today. The second thing
would be to abolish
disease, right? This doesn't take "infinite mercy",
just normal compassion and a bit of common sense. God's supposedly
infinite mercy is apparently
the same thing as no mercy at all. What makes this particularly unforgivable is that
even Jesus's own standards
demand feeding of the poor. See Matthew 26:35, in
which it is stated that
the blessed feed the hungry, and that the damned
do not. Does the old saw about "practicing what you preach" not apply to
Yahweh? Is his hypocrisy
not a sin? One popular rationalization of this is that for
Yahweh to feed all the
hungry would somehow (and it is never explained
how) make it more difficult
for people to get into Heaven. Sure, and another
reason is that it would make the quality of newspapers worse, right? You
can't just say that two
things are connected when there is no apparent or
explained link between them! The charge against Yahweh of infecting us with
disease is particularly
strong. God made these micro-organisms, and
made us subject to them. If I
made a bunch of plague germs and set them loose,
you would rightly hold me accountable. Since (according to Genesis) all
disease comes from Yahweh, I
hold him similarly accountable. Suppose you were a god and there were other
gods. What would you do? What
I would try to do is the same thing I do as a person
among other people --
try to make friends or at least truce with as many of
them as possible. The jealous Judeo-Christian god does the opposite. Some people feel that Yahweh is the only god, and
therefore cannot be
faulted for not having friendly relations with other
gods. This idea is a
fairly modern invention: that not only is he the best
god, but the only one. Yahweh is repeatedly referred to as "our God" in
the Pentateuch, and there
is no implication that he is the only real one. Also,
try Deut. 5:7-9. It
is psychotic to be jealous of nonexistent beings.
The statement "You shall have no gods except me" clearly implies that the
contrary is possible. Suppose you were an omnipotent god and there
were no other gods. What would
you do? Perform a continual sequence of verifiable
miracles; after all,
this doesn't require any effort, and keeps people
from delusion. No such luck in the case of Jehovah. He demands absolute
fidelity without any
demonstration of his existence, beyond some
visionary manifestations of the
sort that you can get from any religion. Christians commonly rationalize this in one of two
ways. First, they claim
that there is a virtue in believing something without
proof; that is, faith
in itself is held to be a virtue, and Yahweh doesn't
want to remove our opportunity to indulge in it. All I can say to this is
that I do not
consider faith to be a virtue -- I consider it to be a
sign of intellectual
weakness, and a significant barrier to scientific and
other intellectual progress. (I consider scientific progress desirable
because it is so
efficacious in improving the quality of people's
lives.) I see no virtue in
accepting a thing on faith, since it may well be false,
and it is clearly not a virtue to believe the false. Given the
willingness to have faith, how
does one decide whether to put it in Christianity
instead of Hinduism?
There is no way; you just have to cross your fingers
and take the plunge. Whichever choice you take, you will hear voices in
your head, see divine
manifestations, and so on, so even once the plunge
is taken there is no way
to know you are correct. Second, there is the rationalization that scientific
discovery would become
impossible if a continual stream of verifiable
miracles were performed.
This argument denies the omnipotence of Yahweh.
If he can do anything, he can perform a sequence of miracles in such a way
as to convince everyone of
his existence and not interfere with scientific
discovery at all. The only
things he can't do are logical absurdities such as
making 2+2=5. The point to remember here is that if we don't
believe in him, we go to
Hell, and this is a greater evil than a lack of the
"virtue" of faith or a
stunting of science, or anything else conceivable. If
Yahweh is concerned about the good, he will do what he can to keep us
from Hell, and keeping
vital information from us is the exact opposite of
this. I have heard the claim that Yahweh does not
restrict us from learning, that
he encourages us to learn all we can. Tell it to the
workers at the Tower
of Babel. In case your memory fails you here, Gen.
11:6-7 says, "'So they are all a single people with a single language!' said
Yahweh. 'This is but
the start of their undertakings! There will be
nothing too hard for them to
do. [ Horrors! -- tim ] Come, let us go down and
confuse their language on the spot so that they can no longer understand one
another.'" Yahweh
deliberately acts to restrict man's capability for
understanding. One thing in particular would keep me from
worshipping this god. That is
the fact that he desires worship. The only reason
why this would be is that
he gets something out of worship, perhaps power,
perhaps just pleasure. In the former case, it would be totally unjustifiable for
me to increase the
power of this hugely arrogant and malefic being. In
the latter, well, I
don't LIKE this deity, and I don't think it deserves
such a reward for its heinous career. Some of the responses I have heard to this sort of
argument in the past are
shown below, with my answers. "You can't judge God by the same standards as
man." In that case, why is it
that I keep getting told that God is good? Are there
two meanings of the
word "good", one of which forbids murder,
deliberate starvation, infecting people with disease, and so on, and another which
allows these things? I
suggest that there is already a word for the second
meaning. That word is
"evil". If you think that it's OK to worship an evil
god, that's your business, but you can't expect me to do the same. One particularly curious rationalization here is that
"starvation and
disease and all the other evils of the world come
from breaking God's laws."
Starvation comes from not having enough food.
Disease comes from exposure to various nasty micro-organisms, and from genetic
infirmities. If you can
show me how these two things come from
breaking god's laws, I will be
greatly surprised. Perhaps at the root they are
caused by Adam and Eve falling from grace, but you can't hold some starving
infant in Namibia
responsible for the actions of two long-dead
people, any more than you can
hold me responsible for the acts of Jack the Ripper.
There just isn't sufficient connection to establish guilt. "Everything God does is really good, even though
we can't always see that it
is." There is no possible amount of good that can
counterbalance the
deliberate, perpetual starvation of the human race.
Maybe we Americans have it so good that we can't see this, but most of the
people in the world are
starving. Children are dying by the truckload, not
for any sin, but just
because there isn't enough food for them. If you
could see these children, and you had food, you would give food to them.
(Either that, or you are an
unfeeling monster.) Not so with the omniscient god
you worship. He sees
their bellies bloat, sees them run out of nutrients
and rot alive, sees their brains dying, and doesn't do a damn thing,
despite the fact that he
has an unlimited supply of food to give. Another
example of his mercy. Christians have been claiming that there will be
wonderful events, that will
more than make up for the abominable pain and
suffering on Earth, for about
two thousand years now. It is clear from the
gospels that Jesus thought that it was about to happen shortly after his death.
Before the Christians,
the Zoroastrians were saying it. Yet the world still
turns as it has, and
there is still no reason to think of these claims as
other than pipe-dreams to mollify the masses. "Don't ask such questions." People who say this are
cowering slaves,
beneath my notice. They would as soon serve the
devil as god in their
blindness and faith. No amount of evidence could
convince them that the devil was bad once they had decided to worship
him; their basic assumption
is that they are correct, so they are untouchable by
any rationality. In closing, let's see how Yahweh/Jesus stands up
to his own standards. In
Matthew 26:41-46, we hear the King, "Next he will
say to those on his left
hand, 'Go away from me, with your curse upon
you, to the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was
hungry and you never gave
me food; I was thirsty and you never gave me
anything to drink; I was a
stranger and you never made me welcome, naked
and you never clothed me, sick and in prison and you never visited me.' , And they
will go away to
eternal punishment, and the virtuous to eternal
life." In the light of this, your god himself is the worst of
sinners; if there is
no double standard, he will be at the head of that
line into eternal
punishment. He is guilty of every crime of which he
accuses the damned. I do not believe in the reality of Jehovah, except as
a psychological
phenomenon, but if I did believe I would not
worship that horror. It could
send me to the Hell it's made for those it dislikes,
and I would walk in proudly, knowing that I was no slave to be broken
down by force.

Tim Maroney, University of North Carolina at Chapel
Hill

SEFAGO:

Your confusion would be cleared if you read it while influenced by the spirit.

You are reading it purely as man and not moved by God.

kandiikane:

Also why is Jesus and Mary worshipped? Did Jesus worship himself? Did he worship his mother?Did he worship the Holy Ghost? Did you know Jesus was Jewish? Did you know Christmas Day is a pagan holiday? Did you know that almost all Religions have deities with different branches which  are one? Except Islam. .  . Did you know if you research greek mythology and Roman they have similarities in the bible? Did you know all religions have similarities?

did you know majority of Christians are going to church of sinners? Did you know they have make the church into a market place?Did you know the apostles of Christ only healed the non-believers and then try to convert them after? Did you know they did not charge for their services? Did you know that as a believer in Christ you can do what he did and even more and that it is not just the pastor who can do all that? Did you know that when Christ worshipped God he did not gather a congregation were he performed miracles and scream shout or even make people writhe about in ecstasy?

P.S. Did you know moses did not cross the Red Sea but the Sea of Reeds? It was lost in language Translation

Seek Enlightenment and be Spiritual. . .

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I'm not an atheist, just non-religious.
You will be shocked that there can be so many contradictions in single book. Its ridiculous; from contradictions in the sequence of creation to contradictions about the events at Jesus resurrection (number of angels, where and when things happened) etc.
It is a lot like the Nigeria we are determined to rebuild, a stark lie. If you took it to court as evidence, you will be severely compromising your case

DARA1234:

Question for all interested in answering, if many Nigerians migrate to the, say USA, and after a while the government of USA decides to limit your growth by asking all male newborn children to be killed, imagine new couples first child is a bouncy baby boy, but he has to be killed, to limit the growth of his people.Is that Justice,

 Pharaoh enslaved the Israelites, made their life miserable, even though the Israelites brought progress to his land. He ordered the killing of the male children just to curb there growth.Exodus 1 v 10-22. After a mortal king challenged the Almighty God severally, God put pharaoh in his place, an ordinary mortal, he was plagued, and faced the repercussion of his actions, is GOD wicked or Just to have protect the weak and defenceless, no.
 The recent post election violence with killing of YOUTH CORPERS was deplorable, many on NAIRALAND described the president as weak for not meeting out the right punishment on the perpetrators, wouldn't you have described GOD the same if he allowed all the injustices in the bible to go free.
All the inferences you(@EVIL MAN ) made were retribution for injustice and a defence of the defenceless or a correction of wrong after many warnings. Now because of GRACE God doesn't meet out instant judgement, HE gives room for repentance and salvation, He is giving you the same now, what do people say; they describe God as weak, and people don't believe you when you take an oath on the bible they ask instead for oath by god of thunder, god of iron etc because the judgment according to them is swift. NOW GOD AS GIVEN EVERY ONE THE CHANCE TO REPENT, A VERY LONG ROPE, NO INSTANT JUDGMENT, PEOPLE SAY THERE IS NO GOD NOW BECAUSE OF THIS, PEOPLE MOCK GOD, WHEN HE BRINGS HIS JUDGMENT ON THE LAST DAY, WILL YOU BLAME HIM ? .

chines4:

Can we just stop this thread, ppl are just here running their mouth without control. let us be very careful, I said it before Bible is sacred and should be treated as such. Reading it like a novel and talking nonsense,may incur the wrath of God

chines4:
_SMF-BREAK_[b]Can we just stop this thread, ppl are just here running their mouth without control. let us be very careful, I said it before Bible is sacred and should be treated as such. Reading it like a novel and talking nonsense,may incur the wrath of God [/b]_SMF-BREAK_

DARA1234:

Question for all interested in answering, if many Nigerians migrate to the, say USA, and after a while the government of USA decides to limit your growth by asking all male newborn children to be killed, imagine new couples first child is a bouncy baby boy, but he has to be killed, to limit the growth of his people.Is that Justice,

 Pharaoh enslaved the Israelites, made their life miserable, even though the Israelites brought progress to his land. He ordered the killing of the male children just to curb there growth.Exodus 1 v 10-22. After a mortal king challenged the Almighty God severally, God put pharaoh in his place, an ordinary mortal, he was plagued, and faced the repercussion of his actions, is GOD wicked or Just to have protect the weak and defenceless, no.

The recent post election violence with killing of YOUTH CORPERS was deplorable, many on NAIRALAND described the president as weak for not meeting out the right punishment on the perpetrators, wouldn't you have described GOD the same if he allowed all the injustices in the bible to go free.
All the inferences you(@EVIL MAN ) made were retribution for injustice and a defence of the defenceless or a correction of wrong after many warnings. Now because of GRACE God doesn't meet out instant judgement, HE gives room for repentance and salvation, He is giving you the same now, what do people say; they describe God as weak, and people don't believe you when you take an oath on the bible they ask instead for oath by god of thunder, god of iron etc because the judgment according to them is swift. NOW GOD AS GIVEN EVERY ONE THE CHANCE TO REPENT, A VERY LONG ROPE, NO INSTANT JUDGMENT, PEOPLE SAY THERE IS NO GOD NOW BECAUSE OF THIS, PEOPLE MOCK GOD, WHEN HE BRINGS HIS JUDGMENT ON THE LAST DAY, WILL YOU BLAME HIM ? .

mazaje:

The exodus story in the bible is NON historical and remains a myth. . . . .There is absolute NO evidence what so ever beside the story in the bible to support the assertion that the Jews were once enslaved in Egypt. . . .No archaeological evidence to show that they lived for 40 years in the desert of Sinai. . .The exodus narrative has no evidence to support it outside the lying pages of the bible. . . .


Why are you hear making a case for your God and telling us about him, I thought they said he has a voice and can speak for himself? Will you allow him to speak to people himself? In the bible it was written that he used to address the whole Jews and lead them in battles against other men. . . .Why did he suddenly run away and disappear now that men have become much more advanced?. . .

Mazaje my Fellow good Nigerian. You have not made a simple scientific explanation of all you have said here, all assumptions, somebody said this, somebody said that, no proof, no evidence based study, you have not spoken as a scientist at all.

Even though I believe in creation, going through the thread I have provided more hard scientific facts (e.g photosynthesis depends on Light not only sunlight , The Earth is made up of mainly water, 2/3rd about 70% ), than you who claims to be a scientist.

Please itemize your solid scientific evidence on your theory with references, make it evidence based, do some intellectual work, let it be visible for all NAIRALANDERS to see, lay it plain.No more fairy tell ", there is life somewhere in another planet far away that we cannot reach , ",this is an assumption, give us proof, did you get a phone call from someone there . It amazes me you have faith in another planet with life forms based on assumptions but you do not have faith in God .

ONLY CREATION THEORY MAKES SENSE; THE PERFECT ORDER OF CREATION, SEASONS, CLIMATE, PHOTOSYNTHESIS,

LIFE,GROWTH ATTAINMENT OF PUBERTY,SEASONAL MIGRATION OF BIRDS, AND ALL NATURE YOU SEE CANNOT HAVE BEEN AN ACCIDENT, IT REQUIRES A MASTER ARCHITECT, GOD,JEHOVAH,ALLAH,YYAW EH OBANGIJI, OLODUMARE , DEPENDING ON YOUR LANGUAGE, ANCIENT GREEKS CALLED HIM THE UNKNOWN GOD(ACT 17 V 23 ). I THANK GOD I AM A BEAUTIFUL CREATIVE WORK OF HIS , I AM NOT AN ACCIDENT, ARE YOU AN ACCIDENT OF NATURE MAZAJE ?

chines4:

Can we just stop this thread, ppl are just here running their mouth without control. let us be very careful, I said it before Bible is sacred and should be treated as such. Reading it like a novel and talking nonsense,may incur the wrath of God

chines4:

Can we just stop this thread, ppl are just here running their mouth without control. let us be very careful, I said it before Bible is sacred and should be treated as such. Reading it like a novel and talking nonsense,[b]may incur the wrath of God [/b]

Pukkah:

The way some of you guys talk about the wrath of God would almost give the impression that God is like a human being that gets angry and destroys things.

MeandSum:

Actually, he is!  

First, he created man, then, created the devil to chase him all his life, when the devil succeeds, he punishes the man for that allowing the devil to succeed
First, he harden the heart of Pharaoh, then he asked him to let his "people" go knowing full well that the poor guy has no way of changing his mind even if he wanted.

Then comes the big bang, bang. All the first born are to die, how smart!

kandiikane:

I wonder what exactly happens after death. . .We are told but we do not really know exactly what happens. . .Do we stay on Earth till Judgment day or reincarnated etc. . . There are so many stories out there and its just like WHOAAAAAA! Have you been there?

kandiikane:

Also why is Jesus and Mary worshipped? Did Jesus worship himself? Did he worship his mother?Did he worship the Holy Ghost? Did you know Jesus was Jewish? Did you know Christmas Day is a pagan holiday? Did you know that almost all Religions have deities with different branches which  are one? Except Islam. .  . Did you know if you research greek mythology and Roman they have similarities in the bible? Did you know all religions have similarities?

did you know majority of Christians are going to church of sinners? Did you know they have make the church into a market place?Did you know the apostles of Christ only healed the non-believers and then try to convert them after? Did you know they did not charge for their services? Did you know that as a believer in Christ you can do what he did and even more and that it is not just the pastor who can do all that? Did you know that when Christ worshipped God he did not gather a congregation were he performed miracles and scream shout or even make people writhe about in ecstasy?

P.S. Did you know moses did not cross the Red Sea but the Sea of Reeds? It was lost in language Translation

Seek Enlightenment and be Spiritual. . .

Grin Nevr wil i read the Bible from page to page, makes no sense , am i a mad man the more you read you are confused not all statement are correct because it has gone through different transformation and some of the real truth have been adulterated and removed, so the BIBLE is not the real word of GOD ITS JUST A TOOL FOR COLONIALISM BY THE WHITE MAN, and slavery, not all words in the BIBLE is partial

the KJV  bible  WHICH is the modern bible is just a best seller , the world best kept secret, ok,

Evil Brain:

Sorry o. So how exactly are we supposed to read the bible? Are we supposed to turn off our brains first, or read it in tiny snippets out of context the way we were taught in church? You have every right to decieve yourself and ignore all the contradictions and grotesqueries your religion is based on, but don't expect the rest of us to do the same.

Anyhoo, Deuteronomy has one funny passage where it says the if you marry a girl and you discover she's not a virgin, you can call the "assembly of the people" to the front of her parent's house and stone her to death there. The funny part is that if her family can produce a bloodstained bedsheet to "prove" her virginity, the poor girl has to go back to the guy's house and they can never divorce. Apparently, it never occured to the guy who wrote the law (Moses?) that the girl might not want to stay married to the wicked basterd who f.ucked her then tried to have her killed in front of her family.

Also, you would think that the all-knowing creator would be aware that not all virgins bleed the first time they have se.x and that bleeding during se.x is not proof of virginity. Plenty of girls are born without a hymen or rupture it during non-se.xual activity. I can't imagine how many innocent jewish girls must have died horribly because of this silly law.

I also can't imagine how so many educated women can follow this blatantly sexist, misogynistic religion. There are so many other examples of sexism in the bible from Eve bringing sin into the world, to the laws of Moses, to Apostle Paul telling women to STFU when in church. Its unbelievable. Are you sure you Christians have actually read this book?

buzugee:

great observation but myopic. its like this, pharoah had to be punished regardless. pharoah was maltreating and had enslaved the israelites for many years. the lord just devised a creative way to punish him. harden his heart and have him refuse to do what was intended while taking jabs at him for not doing it. its a rather creative way to punish an evil empire (keep in mind the whole egyptians were in on the act of slavery and exploitation)

the second part of your question, well devil was not created to chase man around. he was actually a good angel who felt too powerful for his own breaches and was cast down. this angered him and he decided to take his retribution on Gods creation. what better way to piss God off than to mess with people he made in his image