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Re: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by sonmvayina(m): 6:58pm On May 16, 2023
TenQ:

Prove that you don't worship Ala or Amadiọha or Anyanwụ or Ekwensu?

No I don't. Those represent natural principles..

Should I give you my address so you can come see for yourself..


So you explain your jesus...
Re: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by sonmvayina(m): 6:59pm On May 16, 2023
TenQ:

All I need is the authority by which you speak: can you give me a link to your SCRIPTURE?

Otherwise, all you say is worthless rants from your own confused mind.
How am I sure you are not even insane?

Explain your jesus.....

Let us know between us who is insane..
Re: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by TenQ: 6:59pm On May 16, 2023
sonmvayina:


No I don't. Those represent natural principles..

Should I give you my address so you can come see for yourself..


So you explain your jesus...
Prove: I didn't ask you to say!
Provide evidence!

Till then you are an Idol worshiper
Re: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by TenQ: 7:00pm On May 16, 2023
sonmvayina:


Explain your jesus.....

Let us know between us who is insane..
All I need is the authority by which you speak: can you give me a link to your SCRIPTURE?
Re: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by sonmvayina(m): 7:01pm On May 16, 2023
TenQ:


Did Ala or Amadiọha or Anyanwụ or Ekwensu tell you this?

Or, it's a figment of your wish Idol Worshiper?


Answer my question..

Why are you stalling...

Just say there is none....

I won't ask further, if you say there is...provide the book, chapter and verses...
I keep answering your own, answer mine..

Somebody should help me ask him....
Re: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by sonmvayina(m): 7:02pm On May 16, 2023
TenQ:

All I need is the authority by which you speak: can you give me a link to your SCRIPTURE?

I am a man, with family......

I don't need what another man has written, the same wisdom God gave him...God gave me too..
Re: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by sonmvayina(m): 7:03pm On May 16, 2023
TenQ:

Prove: I didn't ask you to say!
Provide evidence!

Till then you are an Idol worshiper

Lol...

What will be an evidence for you?
Re: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by TenQ: 7:06pm On May 16, 2023
sonmvayina:


I am a man, with family......

I don't need what another man has written, the same wisdom God gave him...God gave me too..
Stop wasting my time, how do I know you are not insane. Only mad people relay information only them can attest to.

Where is your authority?


sonmvayina:


Answer my question..

Why are you stalling...

Just say there is none....

I won't ask further, if you say there is...provide the book, chapter and verses...
I keep answering your own, answer mine..

Somebody should help me ask him....


I've been asking you only one question:
Tell me by what verifiable authority you speak for your idols?

QED!
Re: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by TenQ: 7:08pm On May 16, 2023
sonmvayina:


Lol...

What will be an evidence for you?
Me I have the Bible: you can read from any version you want.

Where do you derive your own knowledge and authority?

Only a mad man is self sufficient in such,
Re: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by sonmvayina(m): 8:57pm On May 16, 2023
TenQ:

Me I have the Bible: you can read from any version you want.

Where do you derive your own knowledge and authority?

Only a mad man is self sufficient in such,

I have sense that was given to me by God...

I don't rely on what a man like me wrote. The same wisdom God gave to him, he has given me too..only fools read get their belief from another person..

Ok, so now answer my question..
Re: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by sonmvayina(m): 9:00pm On May 16, 2023
TenQ:

Stop wasting my time, how do I know you are not insane. Only mad people relay information only them can attest to.

Where is your authority?




I've been asking you only one question:
Tell me by what verifiable authority you speak for your idols?

QED!


Stop all this tactics...answer my question....

Where did God say he would impregnate another man's wife to sire a son that would be sacrificed to him in the Tanakh to appease him and he would rise after 3 days .

If you can't, it means you are a big fool..
Re: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by TenQ: 9:21pm On May 16, 2023
sonmvayina:


Stop all this tactics...answer my question....

Where did God say he would impregnate another man's wife to sire a son that would be sacrificed to him in the Tanakh to appease him and he would rise after 3 days .

If you can't, it means you are a big fool..
Just show where your idols stated the reality then we can talk. Otherwise, you are a mad man ranting about
Re: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by TenQ: 9:22pm On May 16, 2023
sonmvayina:


I have sense that was given to me by God...

I don't rely on what a man like me wrote. The same wisdom God gave to him, he has given me too..only fools read get their belief from another person..

Ok, so now answer my question..
Exactly like a mad man will speak. From his senses
Re: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by sonmvayina(m): 9:28pm On May 16, 2023
TenQ:

Just show where your idols stated the reality then we can talk. Otherwise, you are a mad man ranting about

Olodo...it is rude to answer a question with a question..

Answer mine, I will answer yours...
Re: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by sonmvayina(m): 9:30pm On May 16, 2023
TenQ:

Exactly like a mad man will speak. From his senses

So why did God give us the senses...

You are just a clown and a retard..

It is a book that tells you how to live your life..

Akpakpu....

Even the Jews believe any good person will enjoy the messianic age....

Answer my question...big fool..
Re: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by drlateef: 6:53am On May 17, 2023
SIRTee15:


He be like say u like choping dust. I gave u a way out but u rejected insisting u preferred to be embarrassed.
Besides what do u even mean by blood supply from L1. I'm not going to assume for u because I'm beginning to doubt your qualification.

Now to expose your ignorance....
You said this....

The fetal kidney has blood supply from L1 at all times. Same with testis and ovaries. Because that’s their embryological origin


Now let's ask other sources....



From Abdominal Aorta at the level of L1. If you are doctor you would understand what I am saying. Thats where the testes and ovaries get their supply from. Because they all originated at that level. That level is what Allah is describing accurately in a roughly lay man’s term.
Re: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by TenQ: 9:12am On May 17, 2023
sonmvayina:


So why did[b] God give us the senses[/b]...

You are just a clown and a retard..

It is a book that tells you how to live your life..

Akpakpu....

Even the Jews believe any good person will enjoy the messianic age....

Answer my question...big fool..
Is it true that even a Mad man has sense?

Don't you think so?
Re: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by TenQ: 9:13am On May 17, 2023
sonmvayina:


Olodo...it is rude to answer a question with a question..

Answer mine, I will answer yours...
Just show where your idols stated the reality then we can talk. Otherwise, you are a mad man ranting about figments of your imagination: I have no time for that
Re: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by sonmvayina(m): 2:47pm On May 17, 2023
TenQ:

Just show where your idols stated the reality then we can talk. Otherwise, you are a mad man ranting about figments of your imagination: I have no time for that

I don't do idols..

Where di the Christian get the idea of jesus from? That you rushed to believe?
Re: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by TenQ: 3:10pm On May 17, 2023
sonmvayina:


I don't do idols..

Where di the Christian get the idea of jesus from? That you rushed to believe?
You do!
Are you denying your idols Ala or Amadiọha or Anyanwụ or Ekwensu?
Re: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by SIRTee15: 4:43pm On May 17, 2023
drlateef:




From Abdominal Aorta at the level of L1. If you are doctor you would understand what I am saying. Thats where the testes and ovaries get their supply from. Because they all originated at that level. That level is what Allah is describing accurately in a roughly lay man’s term.

This is the first statement u will say since this argument that will make sense.
Good thing u completely left the kidney and the neural tissue out of it because u were just making very bizzarre comments.

Yes the testicular artery arises at the level of L2 from the abdominal aorta and NOT from the renal artery. If u mean this, then u very correct.

But really u don't need to enter embryology to prove this. I really don't see the need for u to do so....

All those your long talk on purulent embryology stuffs was very unnecessary.
.


Next time just say Mohammed meant the blood supply to the testes comes from close to the ribs, and we will decide if it has any correlation with this statement.....

“Man should reflect on what he was created from. He is created from spurting fluid, emerging from between the backbone and ribs.”

Even though, in between the backbone and the ribs actually means the thoracic cavity and not the retroperitoneal space.
I don't understand how something emerging from the lumbar region could be regarded as 'in between the rib and back bone'.
This is what we call fallacy of equivocation.

Now let's go to the next question.
What do u think is the age a girl child can consent to marriage.
Re: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by SIRTee15: 6:58pm On May 17, 2023
drlateef:




From Abdominal Aorta at the level of L1. If you are doctor you would understand what I am saying. Thats where the testes and ovaries get their supply from. Because they all originated at that level. That level is what Allah is describing accurately in a roughly lay man’s term.


Muslims argue Muhammed doesn't know embryology and he was making cryptic statements like the semen origin but u guys are wrong
Muhammed actually spoke about embryology in the Qur'an...

23:14. "Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood, then of that clot we made a lump; then We made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; the We developed out of it another creature."

Now don't panic, I won't take u up on above, I will reserve it for another day. Enough of embryology.

But U guys should stop speaking for Muhammed, he had the capacity to speak for himself. When he wanted to speak about embryology, he actually did so
Re: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by drlateef: 9:25pm On May 17, 2023
SIRTee15:


This is the first statement u will say since this argument that will make sense.
Good thing u completely left the kidney and the neural tissue out of it because u were just making very bizzarre comments.

Yes the testicular artery arises at the level of L2 from the abdominal aorta and NOT from the renal artery. If u mean this, then u very correct.

But really u don't need to enter embryology to prove this. I really don't see the need for u to do so....

All those your long talk on purulent embryology stuffs was very unnecessary.
.


Next time just say Mohammed meant the blood supply to the testes comes from close to the ribs, and we will decide if it has any correlation with this statement.....

“Man should reflect on what he was created from. He is created from spurting fluid, emerging from between the backbone and ribs.”

Even though, in between the backbone and the ribs actually means the thoracic cavity and not the retroperitoneal space.
I don't understand how something emerging from the lumbar region could be regarded as 'in between the rib and back bone'.
This is what we call fallacy of equivocation.

Now let's go to the next question.
What do u think is the age a girl child can consent to marriage.



Testicular artery is fron L1 in most cases. A small aberrant artery arises from L2. And same with renal arteries. Because they have same origin. And who tells you that embryology is not important in learning about the anatomy of organs and their arterial and nerve supply? Which medical school did you go? Who trained you?
Re: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by SIRTee15: 10:17pm On May 17, 2023
drlateef:




Testicular artery is fron L1 in most cases. A small aberrant artery arises from L2. And same with renal arteries. Because they have same origin. And who tells you that embryology is not important in learning about the anatomy of organs and their arterial and nerve supply? Which medical school did you go? Who trained you?

Guy leave story. We saw the quality of your own medical school with the purulent stuff you ve been dishing out here.
Let's go to next question....
What's the acceptable age a girl child can consent to marriage.
Re: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by drlateef: 10:42pm On May 17, 2023
SIRTee15:


Guy leave story. We saw the quality of your own medical school with the purulent stuff you ve been dishing out here.
Let's go to next question....
What's the acceptable age a girl child can consent to marriage.


Go and ask your non-purulent doctor.
Re: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by SIRTee15: 10:55pm On May 17, 2023
drlateef:





Go and ask your non-purulent doctor.

What a shame u giving up....
Thought u had the nerve of steel to defend Islam.

Go and study that real embryology comment from Muhammed I quoted.... next time, I will take u on it.
Re: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by gaskiyamagana: 11:16pm On May 17, 2023
SIRTee15:
The funny thing is modern day Muslims are the ones destroying Muhammad reputation by pushing words into his mouth when Muhammad himself had absolved himself of all his mistakes when on earth.

Muhammad clearly told his followers that he's only human and thus deficient in general knowledge, so they should take his non religious comments with pinch of salt.
Muhammed told his followers that if they notice what he said was wrong, they should ignore the nonsense and do what they know is right.

This is in the authentic book of hadith, sahih muslim

Muhammad had advised his followers certain way of growing date palm but that caused negative effect on the crops. When the companions asked the Prophet about it, he said they have to take from him what relates to the religion, while for what relates to this worldly affairs or general knowledge, they can use their wisdom, knowledge and judgement.

The narration in Sahih Muslim is as follows:

After arriving in Medina, the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) passed by some people who were fecundating some date palms, so he asked them what they were doing. When they told him, he said, “I don’t think that will provide any benefit,” or in another narration, “It would be better if you didn’t do that.”

So they refrained from doing it, and that year the crop was not as good. They mentioned it to him (peace and blessings be upon him), and he replied:

I am only a human: if I command you to do something in your religion, then take it; but if I tell you to do something based on personal opinion, then [realize] that I am only human,” and in another narration, “Yet if I inform you of something from Allah, then do it, for indeed I will never convey an untruth on behalf of Allah Mighty and Majestic,” and in yet another narration, “You know better of your worldly affairs.


Sahih Muslim, Sunan Ibn Maja, Sahih Ibn Hibban, Musnad Ahmed and other sources.

From above, it's clear Muhammed gave a sensible and pragmatic response to his goofs in the Qur'an and hadiths which is I don't know it all.
Unfortunately, modern day Muslims have rejected Muhammed's answer and created their own answers that have only drawn criticism to the name of their prophet.
On the judgement day, Muhammed will condemn all Muslims who has rejected his good answer and brought mockery to his name.
Muslims should stop speaking for Muhammed, he already spoke for himself regarding his mistakes. You guys are not helping him, u simply making things worse.

If Muhammed said the sun sets in murky waters and now we know that is not true, Muslims should just admit Muhammad goofed and let it be.
If Muhammad said the semen comes from the backbone and now we know that's incorrect. Muslims should desist from manipulating his words and accept what he said was wrong.

Providing us with the prophet's correct answer will prevent many endless argument we have both online and offline re Muhammed.
Just tell us Muhammed made a mistake when he said this or that; it is an acceptable answer and we will all move on, instead of making excuse for him.
On judgement day, Muhammed will condemn many modern day Muslims who continue to twist his words when he never told them to do so.


It's ironic a Christian is the one reminding Muslims to follow the teaching of their prophet....very ironic.



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" AND (REMEMBER) WHEN ALLAH WILL SAY (ON THE DAY OF RESURRECTION) " O 'ISA (JESUS) ! ....... DID YOU SAY TO MEN : ' WORSHIP ME AND MY MOTHER AS TWO GODS BESIDES ALLAH?" . HE (JESUS) WILL SAY: " GLORIFIED ARE YOU! IT WAS NOT FOR ME TO WHAT I HAD NO RIGHT (TO SAY) ......... NEVER DID I SAY TO THEM AUGHT EXCEPT WHAT YOU (ALLAH) DID COMMAND ME TO SAY: 'WORSHIP ALLAH, MY LORD AND YOUR LORD ' , AND I WAS A WITNESS OVER THEM WHILE I DWELT AMONGST THEM .......... AND YOU ARE A WITNESS TO ALL THINGS. IF YOU PUNISH THEM, THEY ARE YOUR SLAVES, AND IF YOU FORGIVE THEM, VERILY YOU, ONLY YOU ARE ALL-MIGHTY , THE ALL-WISE" Q5 : 116 - 118.
By the content and context of the above verses :
1. No quality of faith, creed and doctrine , as well, no quantity of work the Christians - dead, living or unborn - do on earth are WASTED, REJECTED AND RUBBISHED hereafter.
2. A serious Muslim must be laughing at whoever is inviting him to accept Jesus. Or, he will ask such faith - hawker(s) , " Was it the same Jesus of the above verses or corrupted one in the corrupted Bible(s) ?
Over to you , Chancellor, Christian-Corrupt University for Islamic Studies (NairaLand Campus), to explain from your corrupted sources, how you are not going to suffer the fate above hereafter.

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Re: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by gaskiyamagana: 11:20pm On May 17, 2023
SIRTee15:


Guy leave story. We saw the quality of your own medical school with the purulent stuff you ve been dishing out here.
Let's go to next question....
What's the acceptable age a girl child can consent to marriage.
Acceptable age according to Islam or Christianity or tribal/culture of a particular ethnic or Western law?
Re: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by SIRTee15: 11:26pm On May 17, 2023
gaskiyamagana:

Acceptable age according to Islam or Christianity or tribal/culture of a particular ethnic or Western law?

The one that fits your understanding of a girl child.
Re: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by MightySparrow: 11:40pm On May 17, 2023
gaskiyamagana:


" AND (REMEMBER) WHEN ALLAH WILL SAY (ON THE DAY OF RESURRECTION) " O 'ISA (JESUS) ! ....... DID YOU SAY TO MEN : ' WORSHIP ME AND MY MOTHER AS TWO GODS BESIDES ALLAH?" . HE (JESUS) WILL SAY: " GLORIFIED ARE YOU! IT WAS NOT FOR ME TO WHAT I HAD NO RIGHT (TO SAY) ......... NEVER DID I SAY TO THEM AUGHT EXCEPT WHAT YOU (ALLAH) DID COMMAND ME TO SAY: 'WORSHIP ALLAH, MY LORD AND YOUR LORD ' , AND I WAS A WITNESS OVER THEM WHILE I DWELT AMONGST THEM .......... AND YOU ARE A WITNESS TO ALL THINGS. IF YOU PUNISH THEM, THEY ARE YOUR SLAVES, AND IF YOU FORGIVE THEM, VERILY YOU, ONLY YOU ARE ALL-MIGHTY , THE ALL-WISE" Q5 : 116 - 118.
By the content and context of the above verses :
1. No quality of faith, creed and doctrine , as well, no quantity of work the Christians - dead, living or unborn - do on earth are WASTED, REJECTED AND RUBBISHED hereafter.
2. A serious Muslim must be laughing at whoever is inviting him to accept Jesus. Or, he will ask such faith - hawker(s) , " Was it the same Jesus of the above verses or corrupted one in the corrupted Bible(s) ?
Over to you , Chancellor, Christian-Corrupt University for Islamic Studies (NairaLand Campus), to explain from your corrupted sources, how you are not going to suffer the fate above hereafter.



All these alone have disqualified him from being a prophet of his god Allah ( if he exists)


He mislead people in natural things. What did he come to correct?
Satan was one of those that gave him part of the Quran.
Witches also made him mad whilst given his recitations.

What if all his message is from Satan altogether?

Which other prophets have satanic verses or were influenced by Satan?
These Hadiths clearly show that Mohammed is a fake prophet/ messager.


It is foolish to follow a person like that.
Re: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by SIRTee15: 11:41pm On May 17, 2023
gaskiyamagana:


" AND (REMEMBER) WHEN ALLAH WILL SAY (ON THE DAY OF RESURRECTION) " O 'ISA (JESUS) ! ....... DID YOU SAY TO MEN : ' WORSHIP ME AND MY MOTHER AS TWO GODS BESIDES ALLAH?" . HE (JESUS) WILL SAY: " GLORIFIED ARE YOU! IT WAS NOT FOR ME TO WHAT I HAD NO RIGHT (TO SAY) ......... NEVER DID I SAY TO THEM AUGHT EXCEPT WHAT YOU (ALLAH) DID COMMAND ME TO SAY: 'WORSHIP ALLAH, MY LORD AND YOUR LORD ' , AND I WAS A WITNESS OVER THEM WHILE I DWELT AMONGST THEM .......... AND YOU ARE A WITNESS TO ALL THINGS. IF YOU PUNISH THEM, THEY ARE YOUR SLAVES, AND IF YOU FORGIVE THEM, VERILY YOU, ONLY YOU ARE ALL-MIGHTY , THE ALL-WISE" Q5 : 116 - 118.
By the content and context of the above verses :
1. No quality of faith, creed and doctrine , as well, no quantity of work the Christians - dead, living or unborn - do on earth are WASTED, REJECTED AND RUBBISHED hereafter.
2. A serious Muslim must be laughing at whoever is inviting him to accept Jesus. Or, he will ask such faith - hawker(s) , " Was it the same Jesus of the above verses or corrupted one in the corrupted Bible(s) ?
Over to you , Chancellor, Christian-Corrupt University for Islamic Studies (NairaLand Campus), to explain from your corrupted sources, how you are not going to suffer the fate above hereafter.

I don't even have anything to say to u when your own Qur'an is a book of confusion.

AND (REMEMBER) WHEN ALLAH WILL SAY (ON THE DAY OF RESURRECTION) " O 'ISA (JESUS) ! ....... [b]DID YOU SAY TO MEN : ' WORSHIP ME AND MY MOTHER AS TWO GODS BESIDES ALLAH?" . [/b]HE (JESUS) WILL SAY: " GLORIFIED ARE YOU! IT WAS NOT FOR ME TO WHAT I HAD NO RIGHT (TO SAY)

Sorry which people worship Jesus and Mary besides Allah?
because it's definitely not Christians.

How can u condemn a doctrine when u don't even know the doctrine itself. U simply create more confusion...and that's what Qur'an did here....

That's why I pity those who follow that book...it's a book practically for the blind.
Re: The Concept Of SIN: Islam Versus Christianity by gaskiyamagana: 11:42pm On May 17, 2023
SIRTee15:


The one that fits your understanding of a girl child.
One man's food is another man's poison. It is better for you to leave me with my food that is poison to you, instead of arguing with me. I didn't force it on you.

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