Workch:
So Christianity is not a religion 😂

Of course it's not a religion, its a scam.

They call it a relationship with God and Jesus. This relationship requires praying, fasting, and going to worship centers and trying to serve a supposedly creator of the world (creator of the world... isnt that laughable?). Same thing every religion does.

My question is, how in the world do these people feel they are communicating to the creator of this world and not feel insane?

Imagine u have access to be the son or have relationship with common Tinubu or Dangote, u sure will feel this relationship, no need to convince anyone... people will naturally flock around you. how much more have relationship with the creator of this world who supposedly loves you unconditionally and wants the best for you. Yet you are here running round and round trying to prove him...

The creator of this world with multiple planets that has existed for billions of years is ur father and common fuel subsidy removal or Covid 19 is getting u to run helter skelter.. SMH. let's keep deceiving ourselves.

frank317:


Of course it's not a religion, its a scam.

They call it a relationship with God and Jesus. This relationship requires praying, fasting, and going to worship centers and trying to serve a supposedly creator of the world (creator of the world... isnt that laughable?). Same thing every religion does.

My question is, how in the world do these people feel they are communicating to the creator of this world and not feel insane?

Imagine u have access to be the son or have relationship with common Tinubu or Dangote, u sure will feel this relationship, no need to convince anyone... people will naturally flock around you. how much more have relationship with the creator of this world who supposedly loves you unconditionally and wants the best for you. Yet you are here running round and round trying to prove him...

The creator of this world with multiple planets that has existed for billions of years is ur father and common fuel subsidy removal or Covid 19 is getting u to run helter skelter.. SMH. let's keep deceiving ourselves.

lol, funny guy. You are a comedian

[quote author=Workch post=124053444][/quote] how do u feel when ur fiance says u are an evidence of god?

The love of God for us


John 3:16
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.


When Adam sinned, he lost the direct access he initially had with God. (Genesis 3) God decided to send his only begotten son (Jesus) to pay the price for our sins on the cross of calvary because of his love for us. When Christ resurrected, he restored all privileges that we once had and brought redemption to us all. All we need is to believe that he died for our sin and has once again granted us direct access with God. No longer through an intermediary! (Mathew 27:50-53).

Jeremiah 29:11
For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, says the Lord, thoughts of peace and not of evil, to give you a future and a hope.

If our earthly parents care so much for us, how much more our father in heaven! (Luke 11:11-13). God’s love for us is infinite. He has promised to supply all our needs according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus. (Philipians 4:19).


Prayer of Salvation

Lord Jesus, I accept and acknowledge you as my personal lord and savior. I sincerely ask that you forgive my sins. Come into my life and pour out your spirit on me. By faith, I receive the promise of the father, which is the holy spirit. (John 14:16) I thank you for the price that you paid for me on the cross of calvary. Thank you for my redemption. I pray that your power, grace and favor will abide with me now and forever more. Amen.

HellVictorinho6:
how do u feel when ur fiance says u are an evidence of god?

she doesn't say that. If she does then I will just laugh and let it go.

Workch:
she doesn't say that. If she does then I will just laugh and let it go.

yeah,we cant dwell on that,but ur children will make u talk about it.

HellVictorinho6:
yeah,we cant dwell on that,but ur children will make u talk about it.

Well, I won't stop my children from going to church with her. The thing is, I will always tell them to be rational in everything they do including religious choices.
Going to church will help them see the flaws in religion, so it will make sense when I start coaching them on how not to be irrational.

FxMasterz:


Yeah, they see a lot but they don't understand.

There was an incident that happened in Warri in 2011. A man went on a visit to his boss's house. When he was about to leave, the boss's twins who were about 3yrs old at the time started crying and holding him that he should not go, he should stay with them for the night. The guy visits often but It was unusual of the twins to do that. Nobody actually made anything of it. They thought they were just being fond of him.

The guy went home promising the twins he'll visit again the following day. They were still crying as he left.

That midnight, the guy was visited by dare devil armed robbers. One thing led to another, and they hacked the guy to death. Clubbing him on his head. His wife had just put to bed. The baby was just a few weeks old. The robbers left him in a pool of his blood and dissapeared.

It was after the incident that the drama played by the twins in his boss's house now started making sense. If only they could talk, the guyis life would have been spared.

Who says the spirit realm is not real?

So there were adult who could talk but the spirit decided to use small kids that can't, the spirit should be blamed for the guys death.

LikeAking:



This is not the kind of work God Shud be doing..

God suppose stop the robbers..


The real God's are our African God's.

Misplaced priorities bro

temi1290:


So there were adult who could talk but the spirit decided to use small kids that can't, the spirit should be blamed for the guys death.

When adults are spiritually blind, how can they see?

But, can't you see that the boy had the vision while we were praying for him? Or do you mean a 6yr old cannot talk?

FxMasterz:

When adults are spiritually blind, how can they see?

But, can't you see that the boy had the vision while we were praying for him? Or do you mean a 6yr old cannot talk?

I was expecting this stupid excuse, the adults around are always spiritually blind, mtweeew. "3 years old", "if only they could talk", where in this picture did you claim to be praying for anyone? We're definitely not talking about the same thing.

temi1290:


I was expecting this stupid excuse, the adults around are always spiritually blind, mtweeew. "3 years old", "if only they could talk", where in this picture did you claim to be praying for anyone? We're definitely not talking about the same thing.

You probably mentioned the wrong person.

If adults don't do things to keep their eyes open because of their wickedness, children who are pure would see what adults don't see.

Testing 1-2

Workch:
Well, I won't stop my children from going to church with her. The thing is, I will always tell them to be rational in everything they do including religious choices.
Going to church will help them see the flaws in religion, so it will make sense when I start coaching them on how not to be irrational.

they MAY see no flaw till u die with ur atheism. u cant speak 4 them. nah 50-50, u wan coach dem say their mama get wetin u call craze while she call am faith 4 head,omoh she sef go laff u, the religious girl wey i dey call 'friend' just dey make me speechless with her god stuff,i no fit laff,no fit cry, na to change topic be my way out cuz even tho i still dey go church ,life no dey do me reach thank god level again. even if i see 30 billion,i go reason why i suppose need am to survive,as in my brain dey too curious 4 religious tinz, at the end pastor go use money,not bible, run church but those books and articles wey una dey write/quote as ,budaatum,Maynman,etc. all na for drama too,as in,e dey make person dey para ,dey play,dey jonz,dey cap,dey whatever unto infinity.

wegevv:

I’m convinced you’re underrating how hard it would be to disprove the existence of the God that Christian’s believe in, as well as Jesus who Christian’s believe is God and is the only way to salvation.

It is not hard all. The god that the Christians (the Abrahamic god) believe in does not exist because most of the attributes given to this god do not conform to the reality of this world. If a god exists, it does not have these attributes and thus cannot be the same god Christians or Muslims or Jews believe in.

LordReed:


It is not hard all. The god that the Christians (the Abrahamic god) believe in does not exist because most of the attributes given to this god do not conform to the reality of this world. If a god exists, it does not have these attributes and thus cannot be the same god Christians or Muslims or Jews believe in.

Lol the God that created this world would not have to conform to the realities of the world he created just like a software engineer does not have to conform to the realities of a game he designed

wegevv:


Lol the God that created this world would not have to conform to the realities of the world he created just like a software engineer does not have to conform to the realities of a game he designed

The software engineer sourced the materials of his game outside of himself, if your god created everything, where did he source the material from to create everything?

And do characters in a game have free will?
Haven’t the software engineer set up all the motives of the game characters from beginning to end, assigning the characters with whatever fate he wishes them?

Maynmann:

The software engineer sourced the materials of his games outside of himself, if your god created everything, where did he source the material from to create everything?

I have no idea. The fact that I don’t know that doesn’t disprove there is a God just like the created intelligence within the game has no idea where the software engineer sourced the material.

I don’t need to know any of that just yet ❤️

wegevv:


I have no idea. The fact that I don’t know that doesn’t disprove there is a God just like the created intelligence within the game has no idea where the software engineer sourced the material.

I don’t need to know any of that just yet ❤️

You are just regurgitating what they told you.

The intelligence within the game also doesn’t worship or believe in the software engineer.
Does the intelligence within the game also claim that the software engineer created everything?
Won’t that make the intelligence within the game stupid?
Imagine a Apple laptop claiming Tim cook is omnipotent.
How did the intelligence within the game know that the software’s engineer created everything?

What idea does the intelligence within the game has?
What idea do you have?

HellVictorinho6:
they MAY see no flaw till u die with ur atheism. u cant speak 4 them. nah 50-50, u wan coach dem say their mama get wetin u call craze while she call am faith 4 head,omoh she sef go laff u, the religious girl wey i dey call 'friend' just dey make me speechless with her god stuff,i no fit laff,no fit cry, na to change topic be my way out cuz even tho i still dey go church ,life no dey do me reach thank god level again. even if i see 30 billion,i go reason why i suppose need am to survive,as in my brain dey too curious 4 religious tinz, at the end pastor go use money,not bible, run church but those books and articles wey una dey write/quote as ,budaatum,Maynman,etc. all na for drama too,as in,e dey make person dey para ,dey play,dey jonz,dey cap,dey whatever unto infinity.

I will allow live their lives. Sincerely, even as a Christian.

Life is not very hard

LordReed:


It is not hard all. The god that the Christians (the Abrahamic god) believe in does not exist because most of the attributes given to this god do not conform to the reality of this world. If a god exists, it does not have these attributes and thus cannot be the same god Christians or Muslims or Jews believe in.

Jokes, how can and why should God's attributes conform to this world? Do you conform to your shit since you made it? You smell like it and have the same colour and shape i guess/ When i say you are a comedian, i say the truth and lie not.

Maynmann:

You are just regurgitating what they told you.

The intelligence within the game also doesn’t worship or believe in the software engineer.
Does the intelligence within the game also claim that the software engineer created everything?
Won’t that make the intelligence within the game stupid?
Imagine a Apple laptop claiming Tim cook is omnipotent.

What idea does the intelligence within the game has?
What idea do you have?

I have been responding to my specific claim that it would be very difficult to disprove the existence of a Christian God. Now you’re talking about something else so I’ll reply to that (even though if you read my other replies in this thread I’ve already addressed it):

You’re implying that people like me are stupid/crazy for believing in said God. I can understand why you’d say that. If you’re relying on just human logic then yes you’re correct. I believe faith is individual and only attained through personal experiences. No one can scientifically prove beyond doubt to everyone that God exists. But that doesn’t prove that he doesn’t exist either

So on that point we actually agree ❤️

wegevv:


I have been responding to my specific claim that it would be very difficult to disprove the existence of a Christian God. Now you’re talking about something else so I’ll reply to that (even though if you read my other replies in this thread I’ve already addressed it):

You’re implying that people like me are stupid/crazy for believing in said God. I can understand why you’d say that. If you’re relying on just human logic then yes you’re correct. I believe faith is individual and only attained through personal experiences. No one can scientifically prove beyond doubt to everyone that God exists. But that doesn’t prove that he doesn’t exist either

So on that point we actually agree ❤️

Disproving the isrealite god yahweh is easy as disproving zeus.

I didn’t imply anything.
I ask a question.

The intelligence within the game also doesn’t worship or believe in the software engineer.
Does the intelligence within the game also claim that the software engineer created everything?
Won’t that make the intelligence within the game stupid?
Imagine a Apple laptop claiming Tim cook is omnipotent.

zeus is a God that has been disproved, the Christian God, yahweh has too, even allah, Odin etc.

Or do you agree these Gods exist alongside your christian god?
If no, how were you able to “scientifically” disprove them?

Maynmann:

Disproving the isrealite god yahweh is easy as disproving zeus.

I didn’t imply anything.
I ask a question.

The intelligence within the game also doesn’t worship or believe in the software engineer.
Does the intelligence within the game also claim that the software engineer created everything?
Won’t that make the intelligence within the game stupid?
Imagine a Apple laptop claiming Tim cook is omnipotent.

zeus is a God that has been disproved, the Christian God, yahweh has too, even allah.

Or do you agree these Gods exist alongside your christian god?

And I answered your question. Yes it would make the intelligence within the game stupid. I accept that as a Christian others will consider me stupid. Happy now?

My faith is individual and based on my personal experiences which has given me conviction. I can’t logically prove it or explain it to most other people. I can only share my testimony which is anecdotal. I won’t argue if someone says that is stupid.

I can’t see the evidence that proves the Christian God does not exist though. Just like the intelligence within the game won’t be able to prove the software engineer does not exist ❤️

wegevv:


And I answered your question. Yes it would make the intelligence within the game stupid. I accept that as a Christian others will consider me stupid. Happy now?

My faith is individual and based on my personal experiences which has given me conviction. I can’t logically prove it or explain it to most other people. I can only share my testimony which is anecdotal. I won’t argue if someone says that is stupid.

I can’t see the evidence that proves the Christian God does not exist though. Just like the intelligence within the game won’t be able to prove the software engineer does not exist ❤️

It’s not only christians that worship a god.
A Christian is like an apple laptop claiming his software engineer is yahweh
A Muslim is a dell laptop claiming his software engineer is allah.
A zeus worshipper is a Hp laptop claiming zeus and Olympian gods is the Creator.

Imagine a Apple laptop claiming Tim cook is omnipotent.


So as other thousands of religions, one of the central theme among religions is faith and belief, knowledge is not required. They also have their own testimonies lol

How did the intelligence within the game prove that the software engineer exists? ❤️

wegevv:


Lol the God that created this world would not have to conform to the realities of the world he created just like a software engineer does not have to conform to the realities of a game he designed

That's not what I said at all. Reread what I wrote and try to understand it.

Maynmann:

It’s not only christians that worship a god.
A Christian is like an apple laptop claiming his software engineer is yahweh
A Muslim is a dell laptop claiming his software engineer is allah.
A zeus worshipper is a Hp laptop claiming zeus and Olympian gods is the Creator.

So as other thousands of religions, one of the central theme among religions is faith and belief, knowledge is not required. They also have their own testimonies lol

How did the intelligence within the game prove that the software engineer exists? ❤️

We can’t scientifically prove it to everyone. That’s what I keep saying. I’m not even arguing with you, I’m agreeing with what you’re saying lol

But humour me for a second and imagine the software engineer decided to reveal himself to one player in the game. Maybe by someway that broke the physics of the game for an instance. How would that in game character go and prove the existence of the software engineer. They can’t unless the software engineer decided to reveal himself to another in game character.

Christians believe it is God that gives salvation. When he shows Himself to you it will be hard not to believe. But no human is going to prove once and for all that he believes with science and empirical data.

I personally don’t care that other religions have their own believes and testimonies. I’m not trying to hold on to God through that kind logic. I’ll happily admit that I’m stupid for Christ ❤️

LordReed:


That's not what I said at all. Reread what I wrote and try to understand it.

Lol maybe it’s the “most of the attributes given to this god do not conform to the reality of this world” that confused me. But you then say the opposite in the next sentence which I missed.

You’re going to have to explain which attributes the Christian God is said to have that can’t possibly be consistent with a God that created the universe please

wegevv:


We can’t scientifically prove it to everyone. That’s what I keep saying. I’m not even arguing with you, I’m agreeing with what you’re saying lol

But humour me for a second and imagine the software engineer decided to reveal himself to one player in the game. Maybe by someway that broke the physics of the game for an instance. How would that in game character go and prove the existence of the software engineer. They can’t unless the software engineer decided to reveal himself to another in game character.

Christians believe it is God that gives salvation. When he shows Himself to you it will be hard not to believe. But no human is going to prove once and for all that he believes with science and empirical data.

I personally don’t care that other religions have their own believes and testimonies. I’m not trying to hold on to God through that kind logic. I’ll happily admit that I’m stupid for Christ ❤️

We can disprove the mythology of yahweh the same we can for zeus.
I’m also agreeing with you, we can’t disprove any god “scientifically”, your yahweh is existing alongside other gods each powerful the same way.

The characters in a game does not have free will, so if the character thinks he is “breaking the physics” of the game, it’s all part of the program set up by the software engineer.
Also how will proving the existence of the software engineer affect the characters in the game?
What is the impact of their “belief” to the software engineer or to the characters?

The same way christians “believe”, other religionist also “believe”, no different.

How did the intelligence within the game prove that the software engineer exists? ❤️

Maynmann:

We can disprove the mythology of yahweh the same we can for zeus.
I’m also agreeing with you, we can’t disprove any god “scientifically”, your yahweh is existing alongside other gods each powerful the same way.

The characters in a game does not have free will, so if the character thinks he is “breaking the physics” of the game, it’s all part of the program set up by the software engineer.
Also how will proving the existence of the software engineer affect the characters in the game?
What is the impact of their “belief” to the software engineer?

The same way christians “believe”, other religionist also “believe”, no different.

How did the intelligence within the game prove that the software engineer exists? ❤️

It’s an example. Anyway we mostly agree. You keep asking me a question at the end that I’ve answered. The intelligence within the game can’t prove anything. In the example I gave above it can only know but it can’t prove. Try to imagine it’s a sophisticated AI game if that helps.

Christians can’t scientifically prove God exists even if He reveals Himself to them and they know he exists. God ultimately choses who he reveals himself to. It is God that saves.